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Officially announced on their Facebook page, with pix...
Looks like a giant Note II
And here on their home page.
What you guys think? I want one!
Spec wise it's almost identical, so i don't think i would get one. Note 10.1 is enough for me
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I WILL have one.. Oh yes, I will...
It's got the home button from the phone though. That was one of the things that people hated about the Note 2 compared to the Note 1: having to push a mechanical button instead of a capacitive home button meant having to change to a finger push instead of a stylus poke.
The design, at least to me, is kind of stupid. Android on a tablet doesn't do well in portrait and widgets end up squished to fit. Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1. It's just my opinion but having less than a 10" tablet kind of defeats the purpose especially with S Note and multiview. I'm sure it'll sell well though.
I just hope we get some of the new features like Awesome Note (Samsung has a one year Android exclusive) and the addition of TV Discovery to Peal to pull in Netflix and Hulu content.
I waited for Note 8.0 thinking it would be just like Note 10.1 but smaller. But it is more like a bigger version of Note 2 but with poorer camera. Meh.
Samsung - this is an enlarged phone, not a proper tablet.
I don't have a Note 10.1, since I really don't want to drop 400-500 on a tablet anytime soon as I did with the Thinkpad Tablet, and that was a huge mistake. As far as I've seen, this tablet is a lot better, but I think the price point of this 8.0 tablet might be appealing. We'll see, I guess.
Anyone think a second version of the 10.1 tablet is due as well, in the near future at least?
im still thinking if this will be a good backup phone from the Note 10.1 or i might settle for the Nexus 4. but ever since the rumors about the Note 8 came out, i am so into it.
we will see when it is out in stores.
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Using the Note 8 in landscape is going to be challenging because of the button placement and types of buttons Samsung decided to use. And having what appears to be a single front-facing speaker is a step back from the Note 10.1.
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Its a giant note2 who wanna be a note 10.1
It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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Would love to know that the reading mode would do to the screen
Well the Note 8.0 solves THE big knock on the Note 10.1 - lousy PPI. Because of the smaller form factor the PPI goes up by almost 50 points. That's enough to make a real difference. Also thumb typing in portrait will be much more comfortable. It will also have a large enough screen to handwrite in portrait (unlike the Note 2).
One side benefit of this is that the Note 10.1 will get cheaper. BestBuy has it for $449 today. First time I've seen it on sale there.
Last point. Note 10.1 will now get better software.
I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.
MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.
I don't see a point why a Note 10.1 user should consider buying this tablet. Of course, dpi is lousy and i won't deny it, it just sucks. But that's one point - the Note 10.1 is a full-fledged android tablet. Landscape oriented, great software, enough power to maintain the upcoming years and some great features like stereo frontfacing speakers.
The Note 8.0 is a LOT more specified and in my opinion it wants to appeal a bit more professional users than most who bought the Note 10.1. I bought it for studying, it'll do a great job then. But i also wanted a multimedia tablet i can use at home, i think the Note 8.0 will have difficulties in that. It's too much different from standard android tablets.
I hoped for the Note 10.1 to get cheaper before i bought it (i waited for almost 2 months) but finally couldn't resist it anymore. I wouldn't buy the Note 8.0 anyway.
MWC is on so keep your favorite tech sites bookmarked and check them frequently for all the mobile news out of Spain this week. 7-inch tablets will be big this year. Today, Engadget is reporting on 3 new 7-inchers being shown at MWC--1 by HP that will be priced at $169 USD (not breathtaking specs on it) and 2 by Lenovo. It will be interesting to see if a 3G international version of the note 8 with dialing capabilities will be announced at the official unveiling at MWC. As many have noted, the speaker placement looks similar to the note 2, leading to speculation that some models might have phone capabilities.
Alright I didn't read Engadet yesterday afternoon and noe see that they've got a preview if the note 8 up and the internaltional 3G version will be able to make phone calls. The article contains a video, too. http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/23/samsung-galaxy-note-8-preview/
I hate that they put the speakers on the bottom?
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It have phone capabilities thats why the front facing speaker and the use of the buttons
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The Wi-Fi version won't and the U.S. and Canada won't be offered a 3G version. And probably in the countries that offer both more than half sold will be Wi-Fi only because people don’t want to have to buy 3G data. The N8000's a phone too but still survives without looking like a giant Note II including hard and soft buttons that are difficult to use in landscape and a single speaker. Do you honestly see anyone with a Note 8 holding it to their ear for phone calls?
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I expect the Note 8.0 to be wildly popular and honestly the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.
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It's just the classic comparison of a 7/8" tablet vs. a 10" tablet. It's no different than comparing the N7 and N10; they are meant for two different market segments. The Note 8's going after the iPad Mini, not the Note 10.1. I agree about the better PPI between the Note 8 and 10 but because of the extra screen real estate you'd typically hold the Note 10 further away minimizing the impact. 10" high-end Android tablets have never sold particularly well because their price points are too close to the iPad and with that the masses tend to go for the original. If I was shopping for a tablet today I'd still buy the Note 10.1 in spite of its PPI because of its features. I like that it's designed to be used in landscape and the extra display space makes productivity stuff tons easier than working with a 7/8" tablet. But, to your point, based on size, price, and volume in the 7/8" space the Note 8 will easily outsell the Note 10.1. And I don't think Samsung cares one way or the other. The only thing I'll give my Note 10.1 up for is a Note the same size or larger with a FHD display. Purely my personal opinion of course.
Its pretty much the same tablet. Ill wait another year or atleast until tech advances enough to justify dropping another 500+ for a tablet. And when that happens, it will probably be a nexus :laugh:
I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!
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I also find the resolution on the Samsung devices pretty poor :crying: I wish Samsung would bump them up!
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higher dpi sounds great, just remember it means more work for the battery and cpu, I believe the wacom digitizer and resolution need to match also. personally I cannot sacrifice screen real estate, annotating blue prints requires a large screen for me. would love something in the 11.6 range. but I do believe they have different audiences, (I never believe in a one size fits all approach) probably get the little lady one, call it the " lady note"
I only want one cuz it's sexy. That and I'm a sucker for ads lol.
Realistically this could never replace my Note 10.1.
I am getting a tablet soon, and I am stuck between the galaxy note 10.1 and the galaxy note 8.0. I want the s pen functionality, but am worried that if I get the note 8 the space to use the s pen will be too small.Equally I'm not sure I want a tablet that is so big and clunky that I won't be able to carry it around at all. I don't like the capacitive buttons on the tab but I do like the dockbar in the is of the galaxy note 8.I like the the multitasking better on note 10.1 as it has more modes.Which do u think I should get?
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Mate, this comes down to what you want it for.... We can't make this decision for you.
You have the same information everyone else has .
I like the 10.1 inch screen, it is about the same size as a folder you might crry around if you were at highschool, I wish I had this then. Would've made life easier....
There are lot of students that use this tablet for school.
The pen is a nice feature and I like the larger space to use it however if you aren't going to be using this feature there are a lot of other less expensive alternatives around.
The Note 10.1 runs JB 4.1.2 at the moment which makes it a bit better than the ICS it was launched with. We have been chalked up (supposedly) to get updates to android 5.0 but anything after is uncertain.
I find it a good alround device with both work and play functionality. There are a heap of people complaining about the 1200 X 800 screen but this is actually comparable to most other tablets out there. I have no problem with it...
The resolution on the 10.1 us it's biggest downfall, although it is fine it does look poor sometimes compared to my note 2 or s3.
Without seeing the note 8 I am not sure how functional multiview would be as I would never use it on the s3 or n2 but on the 10.1 it is the main reason for switching it on.
I would imagine that carrying an 8 inch tablet would be just as clunky as carrying a 10 inch in truth.
I am sure whatever you get you will be happy.
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I have recently upgraded to the note 10.1 from my trustee tab 8.9. If they did the 8.9 with s pen and mem card slot there is no way I'd of gone for the 10.1. I think the size of the 8.9 is perfect (I am using it now) and nicer to hold when just surfing or Facebook etc. but do like having the note size when using the s pen/multi screen. I have not seen the new 8 inch but think it may feel bit too small for all the good features they have. I'd go for the note 10.1 myself.....
Its all about personal preference
This is a difficult question. It is a matter of tradeoffs. The resolution will definitely look better on the Note 8 running about 40 ppi higher. On the other hand the Note 10.1 has more real estate which is what we buy tablets for. An 8 inch tablet is actually quite a bit larger than a 7 inch tablet so don't use that as a measure. Still you will be fighting the "this is just a bigger phone" feeling.
I initially was all for the Note 8 and thinking it would kill the Note 10.1 because of speed, portability and ppi. It might but so much depends on pricing and how well you can take notes at 8 inches. I recently repurchased a Note 10.1 because I needed a note taking device and can't stand waiting FOR EVER for Samsung to actually release something in the US.
I'd say if you can wait wait. Compare the 2. if the Note 8 comes in around $300 the Note 10.1 will surely come down in price.
what I found ridiculous is the price for the 8, you can easily get a new 10.1 for that and have some change.
Note 8 too small
I have the nexus7 as well as note 10.1 when I bought this note I really thought it would stay home because the nexus will fit in my smaller purse. I have came to love the 10 inch screen though yes it's quality is lower in resolution. So now I have one in my purse the other under my arm typing this in the van right now waiting at a apt. 8 inch note taking tab will still be a bit to small for true business /school use. Tethered to my phone for blue tooth calling I never get phone out of pocket. Awesome device. I have 32 gb wifi version.
Another size matters discution...and it really does!
Just like my WRX Impreza...HPowers matters!!!!
Got the note for phone calls and the 10.1 for everything else...go for both. 8'' is too big for a phone and too small for a tablet!
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Like others have said. It is a peraonal decission. That being said, I find that even though 7" tablets are a more managable size for transport and eazier to hold one handed, they feel cropped when Web surfing. Web surfing is the #1 task I perform on my tablet. The 8 and 9" for factors may be that perfect mid line or a combination of the worst of the worst. Until I get a 8.9 in my hands I won't know
I'm pretty confident that unless the price is stupid, I'll be getting it.
I have both the Note 2 and a Note 10.1 and the only complaint for either is the Note 10.1's resolution (which btw was not a complaint until I saw the Note 2). I have tried the Nexus 4 and 7 and found them to be less that either of my Notes.
With that said if you do not already have a Note 10.1 then you should really check out the Nexus 10. It has twice the resolution of the Note 10.1 and essentially the same real estate. What it does not have is the pressure sensitive s-pen or the advantages of TouchWiz. If you need to take notes there are some very good styluses out there.
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I have both the Note 2 and a Note 10.1 and the only complaint for either is the Note 10.1's resolution (which btw was not a complaint until I saw the Note 2). I have tried the Nexus 4 and 7 and found them to be less that either of my Notes.
With that said if you do not already have a Note 10.1 then you should really check out the Nexus 10. It has twice the resolution of the Note 10.1 and essentially the same real estate. What it does not have is the pressure sensitive s-pen or the advantages of TouchWiz. If you need to take notes there are some very good styluses out there.
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Where are these good capacitive stylus. I have tried them all. All are crap. Only one usable is jot and it's not so great. If you need handwriting there is only one choice the note . choose your size wisely
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Where are these good capacitive stylus. I have tried them all. All are crap. Only one usable is jot and it's not so great. If you need handwriting there is only one choice the note . choose your size wisely
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What do you want to do with a stylus?
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What do you want to do with a stylus?
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Does it matter? She is right. I've tried many of them with my other tablets and they all suck and are no better than a finger.
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What do you want to do with a stylus?
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I own a intuos 4 professional drawing tablet for my pc. Once you have used one of those for drawing nothing else is good enough.
The jot pro is the best capacitive styles. But only for the first hour of its life. The disk are 6.00 each so I cost 6 dollars a hour to use and scratches your screen / screen protector.
Are there any whispers of an update to the 10.1 this summer? The price for the 10.1 is nice, but I have this feeling I'll regret it in June or August...
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Are there any whispers of an update to the 10.1 this summer? The price for the 10.1 is nice, but I have this feeling I'll regret it in June or August...
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The the note is awesome as it is now. Unless you have to have the latest version of the os. If you wanting a pen tablet that can get things done just buy it. The note 8 as talked about above might be worth waiting for if you want a smaller tab. With Samsung there is no truth to updates until you see the message on your machine there is a update. Same with most others.
Good luck
This: Although Samsung is yet to officially confirm its Android 5.0 schedule, a SamMobile source is claiming to know which phones and tablets will be getting the Key Lime Pie upgrade. According to the source, the devices set to receive the upgrade are the Galaxy S4, Galaxy S3, Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy Note 8.0 and Galaxy Note 10.1.
From here:http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
Interesting... hope it holds true!:good:
I have note 1 and note 10.1, this devices together works greate, i mean noteS, i think You should thinka about what smartfone do U have, if U have big screen phone like 5,5'' You dont need note 8, or if U have small screen U can buy note 8 but if i must buy second time i will chose note 10.1
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Does it matter? She is right. I've tried many of them with my other tablets and they all suck and are no better than a finger.
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I also have tried many styluses including the Jot Classic, the Jot Pro, and many of the rubber and cloth tipped styluses. I have found that some are better than others for some things. I have a very cheap "Mini Suit" that works very well, much better than the Jots for writing (not as well as the s-pen though) and feels very nice when used. I have an "Isound.net" brush stylus that makes painting with it feel more like working with an actual brush. This is why I ask what they want to use the stylus for as it does make a difference.
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I own a intuos 4 professional drawing tablet for my pc. Once you have used one of those for drawing nothing else is good enough.
The jot pro is the best capacitive styles. But only for the first hour of its life. The disk are 6.00 each so I cost 6 dollars a hour to use and scratches your screen / screen protector.
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I had an Intuos 3 and 4. I agree there is nothing like them. With that said setting them up just to do a quick sketch or working away from your studio is a pain with them. Now we have the Note 10.1 and the Note 2 for such things and the software for them is improving daily. I disagree that the Jot is the best capacitive stylus. It is quite unreliable and does not feel like any pen or brush you would use in real life for writing or painting. Let alone the expense.
Just read this article. When do you expect the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 be available on sale? I am considering to buy the Galaxy 10.1 2014 this month but if the Pro will be available in two months, perhaps I should wait.
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2013/12/23/samsung-galaxy-note-pro-leaks-in-new-image/
I am looking forward to this tablet as well will buy it as soon as it is out and then decide which note I will keep
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As much as they sell the 10.1 for I'm thinking the 12.2 will cost more than any android tablet should ever sell for.
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I'm sure it will be gorgeous, but at 12.2" aren't we moving into laptop territory? I think if I'm going to carry around something that big, it might has well have a real keyboard of sorts, like a 11" macbook air.
I thought I would want this, but using the 10.1 2014 edition, I can't possibly have anything else. It's the perfect size.
Yeah, you also have to wonder what the battery life will be like. I don't think I would gain anything from a 12" tablet that isn't running Windows. Also, it better have some kind of quick charge going on. Charge time on the 2014 is brutal.
Steve
From the info posted on the web, it seems that while the battery is larger (for the larger display), the CPU and RAM are the same as the 10.1 2014. Could this mean there might be more lag? Why doesn't Samsung allow us to change the battery like the Note 1-3?
While samsung don't make 4:3 ratio tablet at all, 12.2 or 13.3 tablet may be better.
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From the info posted on the web, it seems that while the battery is larger (for the larger display), the CPU and RAM are the same as the 10.1 2014. Could this mean there might be more lag? Why doesn't Samsung allow us to change the battery like the Note 1-3?
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Screen size is larger but resolution is the same so it wouldn't make a difference as far as lag is concerned, that's only rumoured spec anyhow.
Theres going to be four new tablets from samsung all rumoured to be out before March at the latest, with the 12.2 being one of the first released.
In that case, perhaps I should hold the purchase for the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and upgrade my Note 2 to Note 3.
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While samsung don't make 4:3 ratio tablet at all, 12.2 or 13.3 tablet may be better.
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Good point. I'd rather see a 4:3 10" Android-powered tablet than a 12.2 or a 12.3 that is 16:10 or (eww) 16:9. It is frustrating that the only decent 4:3 tablet is the iPad (although HP did just come out with the HP Slate Pro 8, but the specs on that are pretty weak).
So if they Samsung is releasing a 12.2'' Note , the prices for Note 10.1 might come down aswell, if so i will just return mine and wait. _P
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So if they Samsung is releasing a 12.2'' Note , the prices for Note 10.1 might come down aswell, if so i will just return mine and wait. _P
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Highly doubtful. More likely is the price of the 12.2 will be noticeably higher. I use my 10.1 for entertainment when traveling and to get light productivity work done so I don't have to schlep my notebook with me all the time. At least to me, 12.2" is just way too big and defeats the portability benefit of a tablet. You've got to give Samsung credit though for leaving no niche unexploited.
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Highly doubtful. More likely is the price of the 12.2 will be noticeably higher. I use my 10.1 for entertainment when traveling and to get light productivity work done so I don't have to schlep my notebook with me all the time. At least to me, 12.2" is just way too big and defeats the portability benefit of a tablet. You've got to give Samsung credit though for leaving no niche unexploited.
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I agree, it'll most likely be more expensive, might as well buy a laptop or surface pro and be more productive.
I want one of these just because it's bigger, but there are just too many drawbacks. With the increase in screen size (which is substantial), there is a significant increase in weight and price with a drop in ppi
It's rumored to be 750g, which is actually only 3 oz heavier than an iPad 4, which actually isn't that bad considering the size.
I use my Note 10.1 while travelling. I take notes at clients sites, and I use t for reading and gaming in the airports. Even the 10" can get a little heavy for holding when reading, so I don't think I would want the additional weight of a larger tablet. For travellers weight is the enemy. I like a decent sized screen, but I have to balance that with weight.
A couple months ago I would have also gravitated toward the 12 - inch tablet. However, seeing the lower sales numbers for this device, due to the high price and how it has suppressed the development of custom ROMs, I have changed my perspective.
Thanks to Scott for Clean ROM, and finally breaking the log jam.
I cannot imagine the weight difference being noticeable in the long run, if you get the big dog.
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What's funny is the 7-8" crowd thinks we're all nuts for having a 10" tablet. Different strokes.
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I'm sure it will be gorgeous, but at 12.2" aren't we moving into laptop territory? I think if I'm going to carry around something that big, it might has well have a real keyboard of sorts, like a 11" macbook air.
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My exact thoughts.
Sent from my freekin huge Note 10.1 ?
I own the Nexus 10 (same screen size and resolution of SGN 10.1 2014) and an HP TM2 12.2 hybrid tablet/notebook. The HP can be used either as a tablet with pen or by rotating the screen it can be used as a touch notebook. Comparing the 10.1" screen to the 12.2" screen; the 12.2" is significantly larger. I use my tablet for web browsing and while the 10.1" does a nice job, the 12.2 is much less fatiguing to use. You wouldn't realize this unless you could switch from one to the other and directly compare them. But since the Nexus 10 is much more convenient to handle, it is my go to tablet right now.
I'm definitely going to pickup the PRO when it is introduced and compare it directly to the Nexus 10 for daily use. I will either go with the PRO or the SGN 10.1 2014. Because of the pretty drastic difference in size, I think it will not take long to develop a clear preference in actual use. The PRO may be to big ... or maybe not.
Many people felt the SG Note was too big to be used as a phone, but I have really enjoyed my Note 2 and now my Note 3. When I switch to smaller phones they seem seriously inconvenient to use.
The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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I'm getting the 8.4. Why are you choosing the 10.1 pro over the Note 10.1 2014 (as it's on sale and I owned that tablet and liked it).
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The forums here are pretty dead, is no one else ordering any of the new line-up?
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I'm waiting for the lte version of either the 10.1 or the 8.4
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I very much interested in the 10.1 I'm just waiting for it to drop in the states
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I'm getting the 8.4. Why are you choosing the 10.1 pro over the Note 10.1 2014 (as it's on sale and I owned that tablet and liked it).
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I missed the Groupon sale, would've definitely got it if it was still available, or it's on sale at different places now?
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I very much interested in the 10.1 I'm just waiting for it to drop in the states
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It's going to be released today in the states, pre-orders were up for some time on Amazon and BestBuy.
I have pre-ordered the 8.4 through Amazon, but since I purchased black instead of white it's been delayed until Feb 19.
I have had a Nexus 7 (too small) and an iPad (too big). I think the 8.4 is the sweet spot. In my opinion this tablet far exceeds the iPad mini at the same price point.
Just picked up the Tab Pro 10.1 Black, 16gb. I have a note 10.1. I did not upgrade to the Note 10.1 2014 because I don't like the way it does multi-windows compared to the original 10.1. On the Tab Pro the new multi-windows setup is far nicer.
Currently, the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab Pro 10.1 are both $499. tough decision. Don't really care about the pen, but the Note 10.1 2014 does have 3gb ram vs 2gb. Same CPU.
Wonder if the Note 10.1 2014 will get the new gui with 4.4.2?
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Just picked up the Tab Pro 10.1 Black, 16gb. I have a note 10.1. I did not upgrade to the Note 10.1 2014 because I don't like the way it does multi-windows compared to the original 10.1. On the Tab Pro the new multi-windows setup is far nicer.
Currently, the Note 10.1 2014 and Tab Pro 10.1 are both $499. tough decision. Don't really care about the pen, but the Note 10.1 2014 does have 3gb ram vs 2gb. Same CPU.
Wonder if the Note 10.1 2014 will get the new gui with 4.4.2?
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How is the performance on the Tab Pro 10.1? with the whole new Magazine UX and Android 4.4, is it smoother than the Note 10.1 2014? C'mon, give us a more detailed review
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How is the performance on the Tab Pro 10.1? with the whole new Magazine UX and Android 4.4, is it smoother than the Note 10.1 2014? C'mon, give us a more detailed review
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I've really barely used it yet. Also, apparently there is no root yet, but I suspect that won't take long. But, that has hinder me in playing with the new multi-windows, outside of what it can do stock (making my other apps multi-window and such). Also, I only had the Note 10.1 2014 for a day or two before deciding I prefered my original Note 10.1.
The new multi-windows is certainly nicer than on the Note 10.1 2014. They open in a cascade view that is resizable. (this can be done with addons with the 10.1 2014). While you can change to full screen, like the 10.1 2014, once full screen there is no way offered to go back to windowed.
Coming from the original Note10.1, which I chose to keep over the 2014 model, and with the help of Multi-Windows Manager 3rd party app, I can make any app multi window capable and they all get the icon in full screen that allows you to return to windowed mode. This is a peev of mine. Your milage may vary.
At any rate, until I can root and install a 3rd party multi window app, I will not know how much will be changed.
I can't compare it to the note 10.1 2014 for performance, but I can't say I notice lag.
As to benchmarks, as worthwhile as they are (I can only compare against original Note 10.1):
Quadrant Free: Tab Pro: 17857 Note 10.1: 6000
Antutu: Tab Pro: 33970 Note 10.1: 15861
I like the new gui far better than god awful touchwiz, which I always replaced with Nova Launcher. Magazine UX or whatever this launcher is called has special screen pages that use special widgets. The news selections appear to use Flipboard, which is an "uninstallable" app.
When I have used it more, I shall report findings.
Edit 1:
Just remembered, I had tried 2 of the Note 10.1 2014...first had a case defect. With both, and as many others have reported, my existing bluetooth keyboard would continually be disconnecting and reconnecting. I can happily report I am not experiencing this issue with the same bt keyboard.
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Booted up with no apps running, memory cleared from task manager, you already have 1.17gb of your usable 1.72gb total is in use. I do understand android memory usage and am not stating this as a problem. But it often comes up.
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Not sure I will be rushing back into Nova or any other alternative launcher. I'm kind of liking this. Not perfect, but pretty nice. TBH, If I knew the Note 10.1 2014 was getting this update along with kitkat, I would highly consider exchanging this for it.
Edit4: Have been using it for a few hours now. Unless 3rd party, root-required apps change it a lot, samsung seems to have decided to degrade the functionailty of multi-windows since the original Note 10.1. While better that in the note 2014, still leaves me missing my old tab :-\
I was going to get the 10.1 pro but I got the 8.4 instead. I like the portability and I wanted something to closely fit the same size of my iPad mini with retina. I must say I think the iPad might have to find a new home because I am really loving Samsung whole new ui and it's pretty dam snappy and fast
I wanted the Tab 8.4, but after looking at it's battery size and probable run time, I decided to get the Tab pro 10.1 which has almost twice the battery capacity and claimed 9 hr run time.
beartrax said:
I wanted the Tab 8.4, but after looking at it's battery size and probable run time, I decided to get the Tab pro 10.1 which has almost twice the battery capacity and claimed 9 hr run time.
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I have not checked but if you prefer 8.4, I suggest checking battery times vs mAh. The 8.4 battery is smaller, but so is the battery sucking screen
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I have not checked but if you prefer 8.4, I suggest checking battery times vs mAh. The 8.4 battery is smaller, but so is the battery sucking screen
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Hey man,
Congrats on the 10.1 purchase, stuck between this and the note 10 2014 myself....
I dont think I'd use the s pen after the novelty has worn off and there is quite a bit of difference in weight.
How are you finding the Pro 10.1? Any issues? How is the battery life?
Sorry for the questions but I'm sure there are others wanting to find out the same info
EDIT - Anybody else that has purchased the Pro 10, please feel free to chime in
Can't really judge battery time yet. First couple days you tend to mess with it more than normal . I did have some concern yesterday, but am holding off judging.
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Can't really judge battery time yet. First couple days you tend to mess with it more than normal . I did have some concern yesterday, but am holding off judging.
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GSMarena just posted a review of the 10.1...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_10_1-review-1044.php
Looks like I'll be getting the Tab Pro 10.1, 70g lighter plus pretty awesome battery life compared to the Note 10 2014.....
Now when is it coming out in Australia???
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GSMarena just posted a review of the 10.1...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_10_1-review-1044.php
Looks like I'll be getting the Tab Pro 10.1, 70g lighter plus pretty awesome battery life compared to the Note 10 2014.....
Now when is it coming out in Australia???
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Actually meant to get back here and post that under more normal use, battery life seems good.
Will check out the review. Thanks
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Actually meant to get back here and post that under more normal use, battery life seems good.
Will check out the review. Thanks
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Do you have any battery screen shots? What kind of usage did you put the device through?
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Well, my Tab Pro 10.1 will reach my US address by Monday and then it will take a week or so to reach my country here (Egypt), will do a detailed review with videos as soon as I lay my hands on it.
I cracked the screen on my Nexus 10 and Squaretrade can't fix it so they are sending me $500. Was going to go out and buy the tab pro 10.1 today until I realized Best Buy only has a 16GB model. Looks like 32GB isn't out yet anywhere. Boo. I tried doing some googling but can't find out when 32GB will be released. It looks like it's planned at least. Anyone know when?
I've had a Tab 10.1 since it's introduction in 2011. On an impulse, last Friday I purchased a Note 12.2 from Best Buy. I'm not real thrilled with the 12.2 behemoth. It's too heavy and unwieldy to hold and be comfortable. I'm taking it back. I've decided that 10.1 is the size for me.
So, I'm torn. Should I get the Note 10.1 (2014) or the Tab Pro? I want 32gb not 16gb so I'd have to wait for the Tab Pro version with 32Gb to be released (only the 16gb is being shipped now.)
If I get the Note 10.1 will I be buying older technology? Will it be laggy as some have said? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Note 10.1 compared to the Tab Pro 10.1?
One thing I do like about the Note 12.2 is that the speakers are LOUD, something I didn't have with the Original Tab. Are the speakers good in the Note 10.1?
(Don't sell me on the pen, I won't use it. I had a Note 2 and now a Note 3 and the pen never comes out.)
Well, if you never use the pen, the tabPro may be for you. However, given the identical price points, the note 10.1 has better specs AND the added value of the spen, it may make the note a better overall value.
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We know for sure the N10.1-14 is getting both M-UX and 4.4. Since it's not a "Pro" it probably won't get the additional Pro features which are Hancom Office, 6 months of WebEx, SideSync 3.0, Remote PC, and e-Meeting. You can side load Hancom Office as explained in the apps sub-forum. You can download WebEx yourself so the value's in the six free months. Samsung's announced SideSync 3.0 is going to be free to all Samsung Android device owners. RSUPPORT makes Samsung's remote PC app and you can download it free from Play. So the only Pro "exclusive" is e-Meeting which only works with other Pro devices. So in the end, the N10.1-14 and Tab|Pro 10.1 will/can be almost identical s/w wise.
They are identical h/w wise with the exception being the N10.1-14 has an additional 1GB of RAM. But all the inking and S Pen related stuff you said you don't use probably consumes the extra memory. The N10.1-14 has a menu capacitive button which will probably be carried over in 4.4 so the new task button on the Tab|Pro is the only physical difference. The N10.1-14 with 4.4/M-UX and Tab|Pro 10.1 should perform exactly like the N12 you had because while the display on the latter's bigger the PPI's been reduced so all three are pushing an identical amount of pixels and use identical h/w.
So it comes down to availability and price. With the price being so similar between the N10.1-14 and Tab|Pro 10.1 I think a lot of people will go for the former; especially once the s/w's upgraded. I'd question the volume of Tab|Pro's sold at the iPad prices Samsung's asking so that could affect development support.
Good luck deciding...
Well, the Tab pro only has 2gb of ram compared to 3gb on the Note. The Note will get Kitkat soon. Processors seem to both be 1.9ghz. I'm not really seeing a difference here except for the pen. Personally I don't use the pen either and I also have a Note 3.
Ram is only relevent on having more apps open at the same time which is needed with notes multitasking abilities.
If u dont need the pen go ahead and get the tab pro. It has better gpu i believe.
S pen was a seller for me since i love it for use for school
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I've had a Tab 10.1 since it's introduction in 2011. On an impulse, last Friday I purchased a Note 12.2 from Best Buy. I'm not real thrilled with the 12.2 behemoth. It's too heavy and unwieldy to hold and be comfortable. I'm taking it back. I've decided that 10.1 is the size for me.
So, I'm torn. Should I get the Note 10.1 (2014) or the Tab Pro? I want 32gb not 16gb so I'd have to wait for the Tab Pro version with 32Gb to be released (only the 16gb is being shipped now.)
If I get the Note 10.1 will I be buying older technology? Will it be laggy as some have said? What are the advantages/disadvantages of the Note 10.1 compared to the Tab Pro 10.1?
One thing I do like about the Note 12.2 is that the speakers are LOUD, something I didn't have with the Original Tab. Are the speakers good in the Note 10.1?
(Don't sell me on the pen, I won't use it. I had a Note 2 and now a Note 3 and the pen never comes out.)
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I had the 12.2 from BB as well, went to the 8 which turned out to be too small so I'm getting the Note 10.1 2014. I will say though I sometimes miss that 12.2. Yes it was heavy, yes it was a bit awkward, but it really felt like a beast of a machine. It felt as if you could actually get stuff done on it versus just doing some browsing/reading. The Note 8 just has such tiny text in places and the UI elements on some things are just not designed for that resolution/screen size. The 10.1 seems like an ideal size, but if that 12.2 had cellular as an option (like my 10.1 will have) I probably would've kept it. Also, 16gb yes, it's not enough. With the note 8 I was getting low mem warnings and didn't really have it long, so 32gb would be the minimum.
You may want to think on that 12.2 a bit more. The 12.2 also has the USB 3.0 and the now standard button layout (across their pro line). The 10.1 will get upgraded, but who knows when and what that will actually look like. There's also the charging times. I've been reading about 6+ hour charge times fro the note 10.1-14, not sure about the 12.2, but with the USB 3 it probably charges faster.
To put it simply, if you plan on writing hand written notes, go with the the note. It's great for students or productivity. If not, get the tab. The specs are almost identical.
i have the 2014 note 10.1 and it is great - portable but still a good size - i buy too many devices and i went to purchase the pro 8.4 on sunday from best buy but they wouldnt sell it to me - told me it was not available for sale until this friday ( i was at the cashier with the tablet in my hand lol ) i guess that is a good thing cause i really wanted the 12.2 - i was going to buy that one as well when it arrived at best buy this friday ( i am in canada btw ) i think the 12.2 would be perfect i had the asus 18.4 android / windows 8 tablet before that was massive but the screen was not good - they should have not sold it with a 1080p screen with that size it didnt look good at all ! on a side note i have the lenovo yoga 2 pro windows 8 ultrabook and that has the best screen i have ever seen on laptop or tablet - really wish it was android rather then windows though then it would have been awesome instead of just great
I'll add my input. I bought the 8.4 on release day and used it for a week. Having a note 3, I thought the 8.4 was too close to the size and felt pointless to me. I am now using the note 10.1 2014. Bought it yesterday and was going to box it up and return it today and buy the 8.4 again. Lol. So here I am using the note still and actually liking it now. I want the 4.4 on this before I can really make a decision ( thank god for best buy elite). I felt the extra gig of ram was worth it for me as I felt the 8.4 was sluggish when I pushed it. My note 3 is a champ. Will I see a real difference I don't know.
I thought maybe getting the pro 10.1 but I figured for the ram and the pen IF I ever use it it's there and same price. Gosh don't we have such problems deciding on a tablet.
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The Note. It has triple the ram and the stylus with Wacom digitizer all for the same price. Sort of a no brainer imo. Not sure who would be the Tab Pro.
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The Note. It has triple the ram and the stylus with Wacom digitizer all for the same price. Sort of a no brainer imo. Not sure who would be the Tab Pro.
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It's 3Gb vs. 2Gb, that's not triple.
I do have Note 10.1 2014 since release day, great device. It doesn't take 6 hours to charge, and USB 3.0 does not make difference in charging. I got also the 8.4, to replace Note 8.0, nice combination of large screen for work and a smaller one for reading.
Ah, I keep thinking the Tab Pro only has 1gb. Don't know where my brain is.
Thanks for your replies. I returned the Note Pro 12.2 and purchased the Note 10.1 (2014). It feels much better albeit physically smaller than my original Tab 10.1.