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Hey guys,
I've just ordered my 8gb omnia 7 and I'm genuinely still concerned about if 8gb will be enough.
I currently own a featurephone with a 2gb sd card, which i constantly have to swap out my music on. I carry around a pocketpc with another 2gb for video which again I have to swap.
So i'm wondering how everyone is coping with the 8gb issue... Living outside of the US meants no zune pass either. Given the restrictions on apps with Isolated storage, I can't even write something to swap files with my server while on the go :S.
I tried a few 8GB models at first, but very soon realized it just wasn't enough (Just like I had imagined, but figured I'd give it a go anyway as everyone was praising the cloud integration). After about a week the 8GB (more like 6.5GB as a bunch is reserved/used from the factory) was full and I had to start removing stuff.
The Omnia is perfect in every way apart from the 8GB memory issue. I have since ordered a 16GB version, but I would have preferred an additional SD slot (like on the Focus) for future needs.
So, if I were you I would cancel the 8GB model and order a 16GB handset from Germany. If you're buying it off-contract you may even save a few bob.
Hey emigrating, thanks for the reply.
Well, The problem is that every german version I've found is atleast 100euros more expensive than the 8gb version. (i ordered it for 500). So I'm not sure I want to spend that amount..
I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
Well...Just contact service support of samsung
Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
Midnight_Rider said:
the internal memory is also used for all the apps that come pre-installed, not to mention the OS as well. its 16gb on the phone, but a lot of it is used up already thanks to Samsung and T-Mobile
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sohebq said:
Its gone no where, samsung has filled it with their own flavor known as bloat.
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Maybe but I came from S3, but isn't 8Gb too much for just bloatware? On my previous S3, the total available internal memory was 11.25gb. I would understand the 4.75Gb reduction because of the OS (I already have removed some bloatware) But 8Gb?
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but saying the device has 16gb storage when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
Obagleyfreer said:
Why manufacturers even makes phones these days with 16gb internal memory is beyond me.
Some games these days are 4gb each! that gives you enough space for 2 top of the line games on your phone, ridiculous!
I can understand back in the day of the Galaxy S and S2 having 16gb but not these days. Also Samsung really shouldn't claim 16gb when half of it used up already!! It's very misleading. We do not have 16gb available at all.
It was understandable when the OS and system apps only used to take up around 2gb, but come on saying the device has 16gb when 8gb is already taken doesn't seem right to me.
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You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
Paolonicus said:
You mean you also got the same issue as mine?
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Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
Paolonicus said:
I wonder if there is an error here, because I was expecting a 16Gb device but what I got has only 8Gb? Where did the other 8Gb go? :crying:
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This is why I Bought a 16GB extSD Card
Obagleyfreer said:
Every S4 is the same mate.
It's not an "issue" as such, it's just the way it is.
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Lol, ehat if I tell you that my xperia arc has only 420 mb of internal storage, the os takes 200 mb, but I have 359 mb FREE, I don't know how
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
gavinfabl said:
Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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well true, but it has always been this way. not sure of any phone with internal memory that wasn't partially used by the phones OS, even non-android phones are like this, even iOS
Same issue with windows and Mac computers lol. But yes, I agree that 32 Gb should be new min standard because of app size increases as the years go by.
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Partially used is ok. Not 50% used. Big difference. And there needs to be a warning apps/games cannot be saved on the sd card - forget tweaks that's for tech geeks not the average person.
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Samsung should be reported to trading standards. It's clearly not got 16gb free for the user nor is there any warning that half is already used.
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Well they neber stated 16gbs free or 16gb useable...so what woupd report them for? You expecting more?
Every device is like this...some more than others. But even blank hardrives/flash drives don't have as much as they claim...buy a terabyte blank hard drive and your actually only getting 9XXgb hard drive
And you cant really base it off the s3 as every year the system partition gets larger taking up more space...due to more features/bloat being added. The worst part is not even debloating will increase your free memory as the whole system partition needs to be changed if you want more user space
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So now we are justifying why it is ok for companies to do this? surely not. So if the S5 is 16gb with 4gb free that will be ok then?
no, its not ok, but you can try emailing samsung instead of beating a dead horse here
but here's the thing. hard drive manufacturers have been doing this for decades. when they say 16gb they dont mean gigabyte, they mean 16 billion bytes. there is a difference.
hard drive makers use base 10 in computing hard drive sizes, so when you see 16gb it really means 16 billion bytes which is less than what you think you are getting. those who understand binary know the difference. in base 2, if i say kilobyte, that means 1024 bytes, but on a hard drive, it means 1000 bytes. see the difference?
on my wife's Tmo S4 she has 9.62gb free from her 16gb internal memory, a lot yes, but not half
I have been in touch with Samsung. They blame Google. I've responded and awaiting a further response.
The available memory varies dependant on carrier. 9.62gb is the UK average I believe.
The other issue is Samsung doesn't sell the phone. It gets orders from carriers and wholesalers. The carriers and wholesalers all chose 16gb since they all thought the memory was expandable with sd card along with apps and games being able to be saved on the sd card.
Maybe a few months down the line we will see 32gb versions being available. I am hopeful.
Hello All,
I am planning to switch from Galaxy S4 to LG G2. I was thinking of getting the 16 GB version of the phone. But I wanted to know that is it enough? Since there is no expansion possible. When i got the S4 16 GB version, the OS and other stuff alone take up 8 GB of the space. Luckily in S4 i can go for an SD card. Just wanted to know that is the same case with G2.
hell_storm2004 said:
Hello All,
I am planning to switch from Galaxy S4 to LG G2. I was thinking of getting the 16 GB version of the phone. But I wanted to know that is it enough? Since there is no expansion possible. When i got the S4 16 GB version, the OS and other stuff alone take up 8 GB of the space. Luckily in S4 i can go for an SD card. Just wanted to know that is the same case with G2.
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There is OTG support
hell_storm2004 said:
Hello All,
I am planning to switch from Galaxy S4 to LG G2. I was thinking of getting the 16 GB version of the phone. But I wanted to know that is it enough? Since there is no expansion possible. When i got the S4 16 GB version, the OS and other stuff alone take up 8 GB of the space. Luckily in S4 i can go for an SD card. Just wanted to know that is the same case with G2.
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OS takes up about 6-8 gigs, but as the person above me said it has OTG support (check this out: meenova.com) and box.com gives you 50 gb of free storage when you sign in with a LG device.
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OS takes up about 6-8 gigs, but as the person above me said it has OTG support (check this out: meenova.com) and box.com gives you 50 gb of free storage when you sign in with a LG device.
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That thing looks clumsy!
hell_storm2004 said:
Hello All,
I am planning to switch from Galaxy S4 to LG G2. I was thinking of getting the 16 GB version of the phone. But I wanted to know that is it enough? Since there is no expansion possible. When i got the S4 16 GB version, the OS and other stuff alone take up 8 GB of the space. Luckily in S4 i can go for an SD card. Just wanted to know that is the same case with G2.
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i wouldnt go with the 16gb version. i have the 32gb version and only have 10gb remaining. i may keep more stuff on my phone than you though. i'm an audiophile so i like my flac files. these take up a lot of room.
freebee269 said:
i wouldnt go with the 16gb version. i have the 32gb version and only have 10gb remaining. i may keep more stuff on my phone than you though. i'm an audiophile so i like my flac files. these take up a lot of room.
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I am thinking about it now... i wonder why the new phones are trying to leave the memory card slot out of phones. Nexus 5, HTC One both dont have it as well.
If you can, go for the Korean version of the phone. It has removable battery and SD card support although the battery is slightly smaller.
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IMO, you probably won't see it for a while. There's no announcement on when they will release it. However, to be fair the device has expendable memory. In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
WillTheGreat said:
IMO, you probably won't see it for a while. There's no announcement on when they will release it. However, to be fair the device has expendable memory. In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it. I doubt Verizon will add a 32gb version. Especially with the camera failures. Verizon is probably mentally reaming Samsung behind the scenes. Not a good scenario for adding another model anytime soon if ever.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it.
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While that's true you still have access to 9GB of the built in storage. It's hard to imagine anyone loading 9GB worth of apps on their device. Not to mention generally speaking storage space is taken up by media (photo, music, videos, etc) which removable storage is perfect for.
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While that's true you still have access to 9GB of the built in storage. It's hard to imagine anyone loading 9GB worth of apps on their device. Not to mention generally speaking storage space is taken up by media (photo, music, videos, etc) which removable storage is perfect for.
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Imagination is relative to device use. I have a 32gb S4 and have 7gb free. Also have a 128gb card with 30gb free. MP3, video and game roms fill that up.
Factor in sd cards are now limited in function with 3rd party apps, the internal storage becomes more relevant in need.
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Imagination is relative to device use. I have a 32gb S4 and have 7gb free. Also have a 128gb card with 30gb free. MP3, video and game roms fill that up.
Factor in sd cards are now limited in function with 3rd party apps, the internal storage becomes more relevant in need.
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Well said, and one persons acceptable internal storage is anthers unacceptable internal storage. You get 10.7 GB of storage and you know what its not enough for me. I had a GN3 32GB until I returned it today. Comes with 25GB of usable space, I load apps and I am down to 22.8GB of usable space. So you are thinking he only uses 2.2GB of apps, and you know what that is correct . . . for today. I could d/l a ton of larger apps, like Dead Trigger 2, MC4, NOVA3, etc, etc and quickly eat up space. I should not be required to accept a lesser storage option because an OEM and/or carrier is lazy, greedy and inefficient in managing their inventory.
AT&T will very likley offer it, and very likely well before Verizon does and if they do I am on them like stink on a skunk.
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The card could be so fast it creates black hole, but still will not let you put apps on it. I doubt Verizon will add a 32gb version. Especially with the camera failures. Verizon is probably mentally reaming Samsung behind the scenes. Not a good scenario for adding another model anytime soon if ever.
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Since Verizon is the only one with the camera failure I would suspect Verizons bloatware is the cause so samsung may ne mentally reaming verizon.
Lodaserves said:
I hope they will release 32gb with a low price.LOL
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Expect the 32GB to cost at least $50 more than the 16GB which is why they should just do away with the 16GB in the US, EU, Asian markets and keep the 16GB for the markets where price is a major issue.
I apologize if this seems like a noob question, so we can't move apps to the SD card?
I haven't really checked but all the games and apps I've downloaded I thought I was moving to the SD card to save space. They say they're on the SD card. I was just wondering if there were any shenanigans going on. It's my old sd card from my other phone until I upgrade to a faster one.
I really had no idea you couldn't do that anymore. Makes me want root even more now.
Not sure we will see a 32GB version. Last year around now (in relation to launch date of S4) I was told a 32GB was coming via our corporate rep (person is also a regional trainer), but this time zero information. The camera issue though has VZW spooked, so this make the rep think that issue alone could result in no new models.
I am one of the more vocal fans for 32GB and always look at the Dumb & Dumber million to one chance. Not looking as good this time around compared to the S4. Maybe when they figure out the camera issue and sales start slowing on the 16GB version they will add one. That is 110% conjecture.
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I apologize if this seems like a noob question, so we can't move apps to the SD card?
I haven't really checked but all the games and apps I've downloaded I thought I was moving to the SD card to save space. They say they're on the SD card. I was just wondering if there were any shenanigans going on. It's my old sd card from my other phone until I upgrade to a faster one.
I really had no idea you couldn't do that anymore. Makes me want root even more now.
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Nevermind, it just creates new folders with nothing in them. Only thing sd card is good for is pictures, roms, and music. I didn't even notice at first.....
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In all likelihood you would be able to add a UHS1 (if speed is a concern) 32GB micro SD for less than paying the extra for a 32GB unit.
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How does the that help with apps? People that want the 32gb have more apps than will fit on the 10gb free on the 16gb model. With root looking dubious or at least a real pain to achieve, the only stable solution for apps and Kitkat is to be installed in the internal storage.
If you do not have many apps, no harm no foul and enjoy the model with about 15gb less app storage. Some will not since have more than 10gb of apps that fit on the 16gb model.
Still not a peep from Verizon corporate reps, but last year we knew already by this time in the launch window. Perhaps not happening, but based on the lack of interest here, perhaps no harm no foul for folks here.
Hi there, i have a question and im not sure about these two versions, right now i have a LG L90 8gb smartphone, the 32gb Nexus is cheaper for about 120$ in my country, vs the 64gb from germany(676€)
I have some music on my phone (around 800mb) which is enough for me, i just hitted the limit on my memory with apps, so my memory available is 4gb now about 300mb, and now when im buying the Nexus i can't make up the mind about the storage... is 32gb enough for me, i would use the cloud fir videos and pictures so that's not a problem...
I think 32gb is enough for you, good luck!
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Fallro said:
Hi there, i have a question and im not sure about these two versions, right now i have a LG L90 8gb smartphone, the 32gb Nexus is cheaper for about 120$ in my country, vs the 64gb from germany(676€)
I have some music on my phone (around 800mb) which is enough for me, i just hitted the limit on my memory with apps, so my memory available is 4gb now about 300mb, and now when im buying the Nexus i can't make up the mind about the storage... is 32gb enough for me, i would use the cloud fir videos and pictures so that's not a problem...
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I have the 32GB. It's plenty for me and should be plenty for you.
I bought the 64GB and I already crossed the 30GB mark. I only would buy the 64GB if you're planning to keep the phone longer then at least a year.
64gb is more a furute prrof then 32!! as this does not have a mmc so u would be stuck with wat u buy so choose wisely!!! ive the 64gb and only 700-1gb is left of storage for me!!!
There is no such thing as too much memory.
If you use 20GB today, get the 64GB so it lasts for a couple of years.
You can't just add a microSD so more is better.
I bought the 128GB version.