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The Dilemma: 32GB vs 16GB

I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?

I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!

I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device

checkbox111 said:
I do wish you would make up your mind with your 'stories', because over on another thread you had already bought a tab 10'1 in NY and there's no mention of also ordering another AT from Amazon.
I wish people would just piss-off and stop blatantly inventing ways to post BS stories on this forum about this freaking awesome device
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Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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edit: FYI here's what I said in that post
I can totally see the appeal.
However, I want that keyboard with the extended battery and I also want an SD card slot. Say what you want, but having the option to expand memory is pretty awesome.
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now don't you feel silly?....

newtybar said:
I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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That's not true.
If you ever want to move files from device to device all you have to do is pop out the card on one device and into another.
I would hate to wait for 16GB worth of data to be moved through USB.
The biggest files are media files so if you plan on keeping a lot of movies on your tablet at one time, then the bigger storage is probably best.
Though, the way we are headed, everything will be streamed/downloaded through cloud anyway.

magicpork said:
I honestly think 16gb is a better choice as you're very unlikely to install so many apps to eat up that much space.. and you can the $100 ultra to get a decent 32gb micro sd card!
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Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.

newtybar said:
I just got my second 32GB TF (first one stopped responding to touch, even after hard reset) and this one has dust under the screen and light bleed...(I was a naysayer..but the problems are REAL and not just some over exaggeration).
Anyway...I'm going to return the 32GB to BHPhoto...and managed to order a 16GB from Amazon today.
I still have some time to cancel and was debating...is the 16GB the right call? I've had the 32GB until now (since it was easier to get) and it was kind of nice knowing I had that space if I ever needed it...but do I NEED it? I realize the 16GB is expandable due to MicroSD, but onboard is always better.
How do you guys feel about the storage space?
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I personally bought the 16 GB because the 32 GB was sold out @ BB. I figured that I could always expand my memory via micro SD.

to me it doesn't make a ton of sense to add more onboard memory when expansion is possible, cheaper and more convenient

16GB unless you really have tons of music/movies that you want to carry with you all the time. I already have a 32gb iPhone4 so I have no reason to store my music on the tablet. 16GB more than enough.

I personally went for the 32. Unlike a phone, the microSD and SD cards are accessible. I plan to use those like floppy drives of today. It's much faster to copy media directly to the cards from a computer and stick them into the pad than to try to sync or copy them via the pad. At one point, I was thinking that I can just upgrade. However, there will always be some apps that cannot be moved to the microSD.
Also, Amazon currently has the 32 for $499 and 16 for $449. $50 difference for onboard 16 is a no brainer.

I just bought a 16gb with the same mentality as some of the previous replies. I went with the cheaper alternative knowing that I could easily upgrade the storage with a Micro SD card if I started running out of space.

Digiguest said:
Exactly my way of thinking as well. Go for the lower end and make it even BETTER than the higher ended one by getting a 32GB CLASS 6 MSD Card.
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Does not follow that it is better. 48 may be more then 32 but it is less then 64. You don't think that people that buy the 32 gb model are then going to say "Aw I don't need a 32 gb Micro SD card, I have more then enough internal already". No they are going to say "I wish they had 64gb Micro SD card I can put in this thing".

newtybar said:
Please provide a link to where I said I bought a tab 10.1. Also, please make sure you get your facts right before you attack someone.
I might have commented on that thread, but I did NOT say I purchased one.
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edit: FYI here's what I said in that post
now don't you feel silly?....
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I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts

Given Google music, and rentable movies that either stream or delete themselves after you watch them, I think Steve Jobs is on the right track. I have WiFi 95% of the places I go. 100% of the time on work days. With the Google music beta I have no music ON my tablet, but access to my entire collection with a network connection. The 16gb tablet has room for several movies, but once netflix and android market movies are fully functional I don't see the point of even bothering to rip a DVD into a format that will play. My conclusion? 16gb saved me $50 or more over the 32gb version. That pays for netflix for 6 months or so.

Got the 16gb, and got a 32GB microsd at 90$ (patriot 32gb class 10) looks great

If you really (x10) need memory, go for the 32GB model, otherwise, the 16GB model will do just fine.

boogiemaan said:
I plan to use those like floppy drives of today.
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Ha, what?! Are you from the past?

checkbox111 said:
I see you've edited your post how errrrr predictable! but then i see you edit a lot of your posts
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I edited it to include the link to what was referred to, to make it easier for you.
I even included the reason I edited it. If you look at the post I linked to...it was NOT edited.
Let's think about what you accused me of (starting a post about getting a tab 10.1). Was that me? No.

I decided to keep the 16gb from Amazon. External storage is all I need. Do any of the current folio cases have pockets to hold micro SD cards?

Problem with going low and using cards is it's a pain to maintain a desktop like atmosphere if I have some on board and some on a card and swap cards for something else and need access to what was on the other card. I have a mydocs folder under mysugarsync folder and sync it with my home computer. Considering a majority of my files are media/Office based, and mt TF replaced my laptop, I have a more complete setup without having to swap cards. I also had a bunch of gift cards and paid about $300 for the 32gb after returning the 16gb one so it wasn't a tough choice. I like card access, but swapping cards more often is not really my idea of efficient. Plus the slots are always open for use. Still wish the tablet had full size SD. Hate the trend towards micro on devices that have no justification for it. Considering the TF is wider than any other 10.1 with nothing else really under the hood in comparison, a full size SD should have been a no brainer.
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Galaxy S III - 32GB vs 16GB

Without knowing my specific needs if anyone could help with their best guess advice
Today is the last day, my 14th day for an exchange at T-Mobile
I have the 16gb white galaxy s3. Love the phone
The 32 gb was not out until a few days after i got mine
I have the 16gb plus a 32gb extSDcard
I normally think that is more than enough combined space. I, like so manynof my friends keep only curremt music on it, etc..not ALL my music
But one case where it does matter. If I were to use Music Square, which is an awesome feature, the music has to be on the phone
16gb gets crowded. Although I could continue to weed the music down to that amount
....as long as there won't be any other issues
Can anyone who has been in this scenario think of where, not the combined ammount of space matters, but rather the amount on your phone like the music square
Will I encounter any other issues that may encourage me to get the 32gb on the phone.
Your best guess not knowing me but knowing I have basic uses and 64 mb combined is probably enough to help answer this is greatlybappreciatedin either putting a mind to rest or getting me out there to spend that extra 53 bucks
Thank You

eric0668 said:
Without knowing my specific needs if anyone could help with their best guess advice
Today is the last day, my 14th day for an exchange at T-Mobile
I have the 16gb white galaxy s3. Love the phone
The 32 gb was not out until a few days after i got mine
I have the 16gb plus a 32gb extSDcard
I normally think that is more than enough combined space. I, like so manynof my friends keep only curremt music on it, etc..not ALL my music
But one case where it does matter. If I were to use Music Square, which is an awesome feature, the music has to be on the phone
16gb gets crowded. Although I could continue to weed the music down to that amount
....as long as there won't be any other issues
Can anyone who has been in this scenario think of where, not the combined ammount of space matters, but rather the amount on your phone like the music square
Will I encounter any other issues that may encourage me to get the 32gb on the phone.
Your best guess not knowing me but knowing I have basic uses and 64 mb combined is probably enough to help answer this is greatlybappreciatedin either putting a mind to rest or getting me out there to spend that extra 53 bucks
Thank You
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To be honest Id spend the extra $53 for piece of mind. Better safe than sorry IMO. If you decide you need more space you'll spend more later trying to buy a 32gb after your 14days and the headache of trying to sell your 16gb. I dont dl music but i think for google music it caches it in the internal memory and not sd card. But in my case I play a lot of games and games data are stored in the internal. Right now I only have 6gb out of the 12 (I have the 16gb model for tmo). I also have the 32gb sprint but its been deactivated and it still has 19gb of space. There are times I wanna switch back to sprint just to have the 32gb again but I cant stand 3g. I would love to have the 32gb but I bought my tmo s3 at costco and they currently dont offer the 32 gb otherwise I wouldve jumped on it.
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Well first they will charge a restocking fee. Second it should be fine with 16gb.. Of course it depends on usage. I personally have the blue 16gb with a 32gb class 10 samsung sd. Plenty for my needs. The only reason I would consider getting the 32gb is because the flash memory on the galaxy is WICKED fast... Loading times are great. I don't personally play too many games so for me the 16 is adequate. For music I have a combination of music in Google play and the rest is stored on my sd card.
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Personally, I feel more space is always better, however, if you plan on filling the internal sdcard with 32GB of files, media, games, whatever, good luck if your phone takes a dive on you. I keep only games and apps on my 16GB internal then back them up with titanium backup on my 32GB extsdcard. I keep all of my files I don't want to lose there and backed up on my PC. As far as filling up your internal memory with games, the real question is, how long do you plan on hanging on to Plants vs Zombies? Just delete the games you're sick of and replace them with new ones. You'll have a newer, better phone before you ever start worrying about needing more space to save stuff on anyways. Besides, stuff on your phone that you haven't used or looked at in over a month should probably be deleted or stored away on a backup somewhere safe. Digital hoarding is a real problem a lot of us have to break.

think of it this way, it's ONLY $53 for double the storage. compare this to a few months ago and some other phones, they are $100 more for double capacity. i'd switch it if there are no other fees involved.

The real question should be whether or not you need more than 71gb of useable space on your phone. For the $53 difference plus $30 restocking fee you can wait for a good deal on Sandisk Ultra 64gb cards or buy it at normal internet price. Using external cards have the added benefit of securing your information in case your phone craps out our you mess up flashing a rom.
$53 these days can more than double your memory these days.

I have the 32GB version and glad I got it. Yes, $50 for basically 16GB is a rip-off compared to sd card prices. On the other hand, I'm already down to 15GB of free space. Now, I also havent' tried to save space. I have at least 2 full nandroids (one stock, and one customized), plus a bunch of games + data. I also haven't put in an sd card yet. However, I also haven't gone crazy trying to fill it up, so this is after fairly normal usage.
Disclaimer: if I had to pay another $30 restocking fee, I'd probably just try to live with it.

I went with a White 32GB from VZW. I got the day they launched, there was a promo through Best Buy Mobile that got 25% off. So it made sense to get it, it made it cheaper than the 16gb. but to answer the question, i wanted the 32gb. More storage, fast load times, and hope higher resale value in about 6-8 months..

I've never been charged a restocking fee.
You can never have enough space. Just go for it. It's one of those things where if it's on your mind to even consider a 32gb over the 16gb, just do it or it'll linger in your head and drive you crazy
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Well first they will charge a restocking fee. Second it should be fine with 16gb.. Of course it depends on usage. I personally have the blue 16gb with a 32gb class 10 samsung sd. Plenty for my needs. The only reason I would consider getting the 32gb is because the flash memory on the galaxy is WICKED fast... Loading times are great. I don't personally play too many games so for me the 16 is adequate. For music I have a combination of music in Google play and the rest is stored on my sd card.
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Thanks for everyone's advice
I opted for the 32gb today. I did have to pay a restocking fee....$50
I had an older phone returned where I was told they had a different size. this is a little different, but I may call or write Retention and see if it can be refunded
As far as some ideas to just go with the larger sd card in place of the phone storage, that was the initial problem, the reason is that I wanna put all the music on the phone, which is where it has to be in order to use the Music Square feature.....which I like
As far as the sd cards go, I hear different things. I hear that it does handle 64gb micro sd, but that the 32 is preferred, and you may have to jump thru hoops for it to work, at the very least format it on the phone
Is that right, the 32 is best?
(excuse my ignorance, maverick or anyone, how is 71gb calculated?)
Again, thanks everyone

eric0668 said:
Thanks for everyone's advice
I opted for the 32gb today. I did have to pay a restocking fee....$50
I had an older phone returned where I was told they had a different size. this is a little different, but I may call or write Retention and see if it can be refunded
As far as some ideas to just go with the larger sd card in place of the phone storage, that was the initial problem, the reason is that I wanna put all the music on the phone, which is where it has to be in order to use the Music Square feature.....which I like
As far as the sd cards go, I hear different things. I hear that it does handle 64gb micro sd, but that the 32 is preferred, and you may have to jump thru hoops for it to work, at the very least format it on the phone
Is that right, the 32 is best?
(excuse my ignorance, maverick or anyone, how is 71gb calculated?)
Again, thanks everyone
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I've got a 16 gig phone. Installed the all my apps on the internal SD card and I still have 10 of the 12 gig left. I doubt I'll ever have 12 gigs of apps.
I just bought a Sandisk 64 gig card, plugged it in and started copying file to it. No Hoops. The S3 can use native xD format cards. The card was $54 delivered from Amazon. So, 59 actual gigs on the Ext card, plus 12 actual gigs on the int card, that's 71 actual gigs. Is that enough? It is for me.

Also remember that internal memory is generally faster than external memory.
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Get the 32gb if you haven't already. I was going for the 16gb but fit the extra $50 32 was more than worth it. You can never have too much space!
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I hinestly have all my music on my ext card and i have no issues... thats the whole point of that thing fir me is to hold my music videos and pictures... got a 32gig which is plenty. My gs3 is the 16 gig and anything that was internal i have moved to the external (related to media) and i have no problem accessing it with anything. I use google music and the miui music player for audio. And then video. Its whatever came with the phone.. lol i think google play movies or something
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poit said:
I've got a 16 gig phone. Installed the all my apps on the internal SD card and I still have 10 of the 12 gig left. I doubt I'll ever have 12 gigs of apps.
I just bought a Sandisk 64 gig card, plugged it in and started copying file to it. No Hoops. The S3 can use native xD format cards. The card was $54 delivered from Amazon. So, 59 actual gigs on the Ext card, plus 12 actual gigs on the int card, that's 71 actual gigs. Is that enough? It is for me.
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Thanks Poit...unless you're buying all the latest bubblegum / boi band music and getting made fun of by your adult male friends lmao.... aka One Direction (awesome cd by the way)
btw I think I saw that amazon link posted on here. I may look into, just to have max space
Space to move on the phone helps the speed (question), but space on the sd card does not help the speed correct?

Like I said, i wanna use music square, where there is no choice but to have the media on the phone, not the sd card
I would consider using Google Play again, especially stored in the 'cloud' if you will (is that a generic term now), but when you play it from there it is considered 'streaming' and uses your data, correct? needs to be stored on the phone/or sd card to not be considered streaming and using data?

Returning to Android. Getting S4, are there still apps that's cant go to Sdcard?

I want the 32gb s4. Or should I get a 16gb s4 and get a 32gb sd card? Unless there are still certain apps that can't go on Sdcard. I haven't used android in a long time. I'm asking because im going to download a lot of games on this phone. Thanks

Most games go to internal memory and with the size of HD games it runs out fast
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augoza said:
I want the 32gb s4. Or should I get a 16gb s4 and get a 32gb sd card? Unless there are still certain apps that can't go on Sdcard. I haven't used android in a long time. I'm asking because im going to download a lot of games on this phone. Thanks
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Since Ice Cream Sandwich, apps can no longer be conventionally moved to the SD card. I have heard there are some ways around this once you root the device, but I have never tried it. So if your a novice, move to the SD card won't be readily available.

augoza said:
I want the 32gb s4. Or should I get a 16gb s4 and get a 32gb sd card? Unless there are still certain apps that can't go on Sdcard. I haven't used android in a long time. I'm asking because im going to download a lot of games on this phone. Thanks
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It depends:
Gameloft's Asphalt 7 store the data on internal memory but EA's Need For Speed can store the data (2Gb) on the external SD card.
With root access and an app like RomToolBox, you can choose where you install the softwares but I dont think it makes a difference with Gameloft games.

Bagbug said:
It depends:
Gameloft's Asphalt 7 store the data on internal memory but EA's Need For Speed can store the data (2Gb) on the external SD card.
With root access and an app like RomToolBox, you can choose where you install the softwares but I dont think it makes a difference with Gameloft games.
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Thanks you guys for replying. You've instilled the patience for me to wait for the 64gb GS4. I just got off the phone with a corporate AT&T store here in Ohio. He was sure he could sign me up as a new customer, could order the 32gb one and have it shipped to me in a few days. He put me on hold to make sure he could ship the 64gb one like the 32gb one. Unfortunately he came back to confirm he actually cannot order the 32gb one or the 64gb one. He said the US hasn't gotten the 32 or 64gb S4 at all and no clue when. But it could be in a few days. What if it's weeks though. Damn. just thought I'd share.

Once someone makes a custom ROM/kernel you can change the way your device thinks .. You can make your 64gb SD card your internal storage allowing everything to be Installed there
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this has come a long way from my epic 4g which has less than 500MB for apps and constantly ran out. SDCard app installation was a painful, process, and very slow. Nice to have all 16GB of space wide open. I'm gonna definitely need to get an SD card though for movies. Hehe

augoza said:
Thanks you guys for replying. You've instilled the patience for me to wait for the 64gb GS4. I just got off the phone with a corporate AT&T store here in Ohio. He was sure he could sign me up as a new customer, could order the 32gb one and have it shipped to me in a few days. He put me on hold to make sure he could ship the 64gb one like the 32gb one. Unfortunately he came back to confirm he actually cannot order the 32gb one or the 64gb one. He said the US hasn't gotten the 32 or 64gb S4 at all and no clue when. But it could be in a few days. What if it's weeks though. Damn. just thought I'd share.
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I am right there with you, waiting on the 32GB. I have heard May or June, also heard this week, to in a few weeks. Going on vacation next week so fortunately I will be gone for a spell and won't be thinking about it. But it does suck they couldn't offer up the 32GB at the same time, that woul have given them a true sense of popularity.
You simply cannot move apps to the SD card with the Apps2SD apps, and unless you root and change the directory binds to make the ext. SD the internal storage which can be an issue for some. This is the reason I sold my GN2, just would NOT live with 10.8GB of space. I am not going to sacrifice storage on device for cloud storage that costs you money to d/l every time.

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I am right there with you, waiting on the 32GB. I have heard May or June, also heard this week, to in a few weeks. Going on vacation next week so fortunately I will be gone for a spell and won't be thinking about it. But it does suck they couldn't offer up the 32GB at the same time, that woul have given them a true sense of popularity.
You simply cannot move apps to the SD card with the Apps2SD apps, and unless you root and change the directory binds to make the ext. SD the internal storage which can be an issue for some. This is the reason I sold my GN2, just would NOT live with 10.8GB of space. I am not going to sacrifice storage on device for cloud storage that costs you money to d/l every time.
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For sure. Att called me today. There was a Samsung rep at that att store apparently. He told me that the rep said the 32 and 64gb S4 will be available in about a week. So I'm thinking Saturday. Hope it's true

augoza said:
For sure. Att called me today. There was a Samsung rep at that att store apparently. He told me that the rep said the 32 and 64gb S4 will be available in about a week. So I'm thinking Saturday. Hope it's true
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I hope so too, I really need a phone and my fear is it could be months. I wonder IF we will see a 64GB version, that would be awesome,but I would happily take 32GB version.

Oh yeah, I'd take the 32gb one if the 64 is over $400. Dang I hope it's not months, but if it is at least there will probably be newer phones released. So I might not even get the s4

32gb or 64gb won't make it to US. Samsung pulls this crap all the time and give us crappy useless 16gb. HTC one is looking better and better. I know on the note 2 you can run a script if you were rooted to make your SD card become your internal storage hopefully same process works on sgs4
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Difference in performance between 16 & 32GB?

So I pre-ordered a 32GB white version from Best Buy. They didn't have it on the 10th so I went ahead and bought a black one to tide me over. But I'm getting impatient for my white one.
Still not in at Best Buy. I'm told that they won't be in next week either.
But they have a white 16GB. I'm seriously considering buying it along with a 64 GB micro SD card and just call it a day.
My question is, is there any performance difference between the 2 storage sizes? Or does it just affect strict storage space.
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Han Solo 1 said:
So I pre-ordered a 32GB white version from Best Buy. They didn't have it on the 10th so I went ahead and bought a black one to tide me over. But I'm getting impatient for my white one.
Still not in at Best Buy. I'm told that they won't be in next week either.
But they have a white 16GB. I'm seriously considering buying it along with a 64 GB micro SD card and just call it a day.
My question is, is there any performance difference between the 2 storage sizes? Or does it just affect strict storage space.
Thanks,
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There isn't any performance differences between the two. Unlike the nand that is used in SSDs, the storage used doesn't necessarily degrade when getting filling it up.

Just storage space. I'd hang for the 32 if you can. Don't do something rash just to have it today when in a few months you'll probably wish for more space.
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Han... I agree with Wing on this one... I have a 32 gig note and I'm utilizing 10 gigs of it as of today. By the way, none of which are pictures or video, or for that matter too many games. I have a 64 gig sd card that I put my movies and pictures on.
So again, I'm utilizing 10 gigs out of the 32 gig storage that I have, that's just me, but if I were you I would wait for the 32 gig version
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I would just have them ship it to the store and have them call you when it gets there. That way you don't have to pay for shipping, and can take advantage of the Best Buy return policies. There wouldn't be a performance issue based on the storage size. You've waited this long for the tablet to come out, what is a couple more days to wait for shipping? Play some GTA or watch some football till then. Life doesn't seize to exist because of a tablet.

wingdo said:
Just storage space. I'd hang for the 32 if you can. Don't do something rash just to have it today when in a few months you'll probably wish for more space.
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Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.

SomeGuyDude said:
Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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I disagree. It's $50 difference between 16 and 32 GB. You can break it down like this; If you keep and use the tablet for 24 months, it's an extra $2 a month!
I don't like moving apps to external memory, since not all apps support this feature. When I had my 16GB S4, I was constantly removing apps to make way for new apps. I hated that..
Also, the note does not have 16GB available to the user; it's more like 10GB.

skyline23 said:
I disagree. It's $50 difference between 16 and 32 GB. You can break it down like this; If you keep and use the tablet for 24 months, it's an extra $2 a month!
I don't like moving apps to external memory, since not all apps support this feature. When I had my 16GB S4, I was constantly removing apps to make way for new apps. I hated that..
Also, the note does not have 16GB available to the user; it's more like 10GB.
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So store all your files and whatnot on the external. You'd have to have hundreds and hundreds of apps to use up the full internal just on those.
Fifty bucks. You can get a 64gb micro SD card shipped for that. Keep all your media on there, apps on the internal, and for the same price you have 2.5x the storage.
The only way I ever filled up my s3 was downloading all my rdio music onto it. How could you possibly be filling up the device from apps? I've never in my Android life had so many apps I needed to move them to the card.
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So store all your files and whatnot on the external. You'd have to have hundreds and hundreds of apps to use up the full internal just on those.
Fifty bucks. You can get a 64gb micro SD card shipped for that. Keep all your media on there, apps on the internal, and for the same price you have 2.5x the storage.
The only way I ever filled up my s3 was downloading all my rdio music onto it. How could you possibly be filling up the device from apps? I've never in my Android life had so many apps I needed to move them to the card.
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You assume folks that buy the 32GB note, won't spring for a 64GB card as well?!
Case in point, GTA Vice City is 1.4GB.
Anyways, if 16GB works for you, then cool.:good:

skyline23 said:
You assume folks that buy the 32GB note, won't spring for a 64GB card as well?!
Case in point, GTA Vice City is 1.4GB.
Anyways, if 16GB works for you, then cool.:good:
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Not at all. I'm saying that MOST people have no need for 96GB of storage and could save money by getting the 16 and a card of whatever size they'd like. It bugs me when people are stubbornly insisting that they NEED to spend more money on something when they don't.
Okay, so you install Vice City and five more copies of it, and that still leaves you with about a gig and a half to do whatever with. Put all your music/movies/downloads/documents/whatever on the external and bingo bango you saved money AND had more space.
What SHOULD happen in Android is that they embrace external storage and make it easier to put stuff on the external card. What happens INSTEAD is we end up reinforcing the "tiered storage size" model like Apple and next thing you know more tablets and phones have NO external storage, and it costs $100 extra just to go up 16GB in size.
I'm not arguing this just because it's the internet and I like being contrary, it's because I really do have a reason to be promoting people getting the smaller model plus microSD.

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Not at all. I'm saying that MOST people have no need for 96GB of storage and could save money by getting the 16 and a card of whatever size they'd like. It bugs me when people are stubbornly insisting that they NEED to spend more money on something when they don't.
Okay, so you install Vice City and five more copies of it, and that still leaves you with about a gig and a half to do whatever with. Put all your music/movies/downloads/documents/whatever on the external and bingo bango you saved money AND had more space.
What SHOULD happen in Android is that they embrace external storage and make it easier to put stuff on the external card. What happens INSTEAD is we end up reinforcing the "tiered storage size" model like Apple and next thing you know more tablets and phones have NO external storage, and it costs $100 extra just to go up 16GB in size.
I'm not arguing this just because it's the internet and I like being contrary, it's because I really do have a reason to be promoting people getting the smaller model plus microSD.
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dude, you're posting on XDA, not android4newbs. Most of us are power users who want and use more space.
If 16GB works for you, then cool. If someone wants to spend $50 for another 16GB, I don't see how that would bug you.
I'm the biggest fan of removable storage - That's why I choose Samsung, but preaching to all that MOST don't need more than 16GB because YOU don't use more than 16GB is just silly.
Also $50 is relative. To me $550 vs. $600 is not that big of a deal.
Cheers!:good:

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dude, you're posting on XDA, not android4newbs. Most of us are power users who want and use more space.
If 16GB works for you, then cool. If someone wants to spend $50 for another 16GB, I don't see how that would bug you.
I'm the biggest fan of removable storage - That's why I choose Samsung, but preaching to all that MOST don't need more than 16GB because YOU don't use more than 16GB is just silly.
Also $50 is relative. To me $550 vs. $600 is not that big of a deal.
Cheers!:good:
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You're 100% right. I was speaking more toward someone who thinks 16GB isn't enough and wants 32. If you want 32, save a couple bucks and get the card. If you need ALL the space, then yeah get the 32 and a 64 card, but unless you need 96GB why spend the extra money?
$50 is definitely relative. I mean I have the Note instead of the Nexus because even though I'm not a massive stylus user I like having the option and the extra cost wasn't enough for me to mind, but I stuck with the 16 because I -reaaaaaally- feel like for 95% of users it's a smarter buy to get less included storage and add a card.
There's an added benefit, too. Let's say I buy a 16GB model and a 64GB card. Then in a year a new model comes out. I can once AGAIN get the 16GB model and stick my card in there. So not only did I save $50+ on the current one, but I saved it on the next one. It's savings that add up, and afford me the opportunity to get new devices! :laugh:
But again, it's about getting what YOU need. I'm sure some of you guys really DO need massive storage, in which case I really look forward for the day when these bad boys can take 128's.

SomeGuyDude said:
You're 100% right. I was speaking more toward someone who thinks 16GB isn't enough and wants 32. If you want 32, save a couple bucks and get the card. If you need ALL the space, then yeah get the 32 and a 64 card, but unless you need 96GB why spend the extra money?
$50 is definitely relative. I mean I have the Note instead of the Nexus because even though I'm not a massive stylus user I like having the option and the extra cost wasn't enough for me to mind, but I stuck with the 16 because I -reaaaaaally- feel like for 95% of users it's a smarter buy to get less included storage and add a card.
There's an added benefit, too. Let's say I buy a 16GB model and a 64GB card. Then in a year a new model comes out. I can once AGAIN get the 16GB model and stick my card in there. So not only did I save $50+ on the current one, but I saved it on the next one. It's savings that add up, and afford me the opportunity to get new devices! :laugh:
But again, it's about getting what YOU need. I'm sure some of you guys really DO need massive storage, in which case I really look forward for the day when these bad boys can take 128's.
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Hmm. I still don't understand why you would think someone who buys the 32GB Note wouldn't put a MicroSD card in it as well?
Also your cost savings analogy doesn't make any sense--but i'm sure you were just joking.
Let's set aside microSD cards aside for a bit.. Anyway you split it; it's $50 bucks difference between the 16GB/32GB model. for someone like me, it's money well spent.

skyline23 said:
Hmm. I still don't understand why you would think someone who buys the 32GB Note wouldn't put a MicroSD card in it as well?
Also your cost savings analogy doesn't make any sense--but i'm sure you were just joking.
Let's set aside microSD cards aside for a bit.. Anyway you split it; it's $50 bucks difference between the 16GB/32GB model. for someone like me, it's money well spent.
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I had a lot more typed, but then I thought back on it and you do make a damn good point. Once you're over $500 it starts to turn kinda irrelevant, LOL. No matter how you slice it, I have NEVER been happier with a tech purchase. I actually was unsure I wanted a tablet AT ALL before I got the 2012 version of the Note 10.1, and that was awesome enough, but the new one? Sublime. 16 or 32, whatever. Buy it, enjoy. Is it perfect? Naw. Better than any other tablet I've played with? By a long shot. I used this thing side by side with the Nexus 10 and don't wish I'd gone the other way in the slightest.

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I had a lot more typed, but then I thought back on it and you do make a damn good point. Once you're over $500 it starts to turn kinda irrelevant, LOL. No matter how you slice it, I have NEVER been happier with a tech purchase. I actually was unsure I wanted a tablet AT ALL before I got the 2012 version of the Note 10.1, and that was awesome enough, but the new one? Sublime. 16 or 32, whatever. Buy it, enjoy. Is it perfect? Naw. Better than any other tablet I've played with? By a long shot. I used this thing side by side with the Nexus 10 and don't wish I'd gone the other way in the slightest.
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Dude, definitely agree on that!!!:good::laugh:
I was debating on the Nexus 10 as well, as I really wanted the high resolution display on *any* new tablet.
Im so glad I sprung for the '14 model. The Samsung perks was a nice touch as well.
Anyways, enjoy!:good:

skyline23 said:
Dude, definitely agree on that!!!:good::laugh:
I was debating on the Nexus 10 as well, as I really wanted the high resolution display on *any* new tablet.
Im so glad I sprung for the '14 model. The Samsung perks was a nice touch as well.
Anyways, enjoy!:good:
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You made the right choice, yeah. Is it just me or does the Nexus 10 feel like a Fisher Price toy by comparison? The 2014 feels like an executive briefcase to me, the Nexus 10 is a high school backpack. I hate the rubber back on it and the rounded corners. Seriously I opened the box of the 2014 up and was just like "oooohhh god I want to hold it even when it's not on."

I sold my Nexus 10 two weeks ago to get this and I'm so glad i did. This is definitely THE tablet to get now and it's a night and day difference compared to the Nexus 10.

SomeGuyDude said:
Why? The 16 will be a lot cheaper and you can just throw a 64GB card in it for less than the price difference. Unless you anticipate NEEDING 96GB of storage instead of 80 somehow, lower built-in storage + external card is always the best option.
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Too many apps just don't take advantage of SD card abilities. SNote and Evernote are perfect examples. My Lecture Notes folder on my SD card is already at 1GB. After taking the system into account the 16 you should have 10GB available before use. That's really not that much. The 32GB model only gives you 26GB to start with. And yes I also have a 64GB card.
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I'm getting one tomorrow and was also debating the 16 vs 32 question. But then I was checking out local stock in my area online and most stores are only selling the 32GB version. Problem solved, lol.
I should just listen to my own advice - I always tell people it's better to have more storage than you need, rather than "just enough". And in this case, a $50 difference isn't really that much.

wingdo said:
Too many apps just don't take advantage of SD card abilities. SNote and Evernote are perfect examples. My Lecture Notes folder on my SD card is already at 1GB. After taking the system into account the 16 you should have 10GB available before use. That's really not that much. The 32GB model only gives you 26GB to start with. And yes I also have a 64GB card.
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You can change the lecture notes folder in the lecture notes settings
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How tablet vendors are ripping users off for extra storage

I think most of us already knew this but I'm sharing for those that don't...
http://bgr.com/2013/11/20/tablet-storage-pricing-study/

Crazypinoy9 said:
I think most of us already knew this but I'm sharing for those that don't...
http://bgr.com/2013/11/20/tablet-storage-pricing-study/
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It is true there are many things wrong with the pricing for internal storage in tablets, but luckily Samsung tablets have microSD slots and microSD's are not that expensive.

*cough* apple *cough*
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Apple charges 100 samsung usually only charges 50
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And yet I always get argued with when I say that buying the smallest storage model and a micro-SD is the smartest choice...

SomeGuyDude said:
And yet I always get argued with when I say that buying the smallest storage model and a micro-SD is the smartest choice...
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Because there are some things that you cannot store on the external card and unless you're rooted you'll run out of space quite quickly (depending on what you do of course). GPS maps and game content come to mind immediately. I bought the 32GB LTE version so I do not need to root immediately and lose warranty (thanks Samnsung!.....not)

ewok666 said:
Because there are some things that you cannot store on the external card and unless you're rooted you'll run out of space quite quickly (depending on what you do of course). GPS maps and game content come to mind immediately. I bought the 32GB LTE version so I do not need to root immediately and lose warranty (thanks Samnsung!.....not)
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Sure but those aren't universal situations, SOME will need that, but I'd argue the vast majority of people are just storing media and whatnot on their devices. Not too many people are slapping on 25 gigs of games and maps. It's a matter of looking at your needs.

SomeGuyDude said:
Sure but those aren't universal situations, SOME will need that, but I'd argue the vast majority of people are just storing media and whatnot on their devices. Not too many people are slapping on 25 gigs of games and maps. It's a matter of looking at your needs.
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Agreed....but more to the point: Samsung should stop making crap with only 16GB storage when they're planning to use up 9GB or more for the OS and their bloatware AND the real cost of the additional 16GB is next to nothing.

the good thing about win x64 tablets is that they use standard msata drives that are (relatively) easily upgraded and faster than this nand crap. for $100 I could upgrade my 700t to 128gb and have my spare 64gb for backup.

SomeGuyDude said:
Sure but those aren't universal situations, SOME will need that, but I'd argue the vast majority of people are just storing media and whatnot on their devices. Not too many people are slapping on 25 gigs of games and maps. It's a matter of looking at your needs.
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I have a Nvidia Shield that is only 16gb. It does not take but 5 good games to take all of your available storage.
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jankko said:
It is true there are many things wrong with the pricing for internal storage in tablets, but luckily Samsung tablets have microSD slots and microSD's are not that expensive.
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16GB is early obsolescence and the largest apps, games, at up to nearly 2GB each burns up your internal storage fast and SD card, as of now, is not a 100% replacement. Learned quickly from that mistake with 16GB Note II and Nexus 7 2012 but corrected them with 32GB Note 3 and Nexus 7 2013.

ewok666 said:
Because there are some things that you cannot store on the external card and unless you're rooted you'll run out of space quite quickly (depending on what you do of course). GPS maps and game content come to mind immediately. I bought the 32GB LTE version so I do not need to root immediately and lose warranty (thanks Samnsung!.....not)
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In my unrooted Note 10.1 2014, I have the option to move application content to SD card (in application management in the settings). Is there something more a root would give me than this option?

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In my unrooted Note 10.1 2014, I have the option to move application content to SD card (in application management in the settings). Is there something more a root would give me than this option?
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This SD card is not exactly the external SD card. I have Mizuu and it generates about 500mb. It defaults to SD card. But I look storage, it is in internal /storage/sdcard0 (save in android/data), not in /storage/extSdCard.
So my understand is that SD card mentioned in application manager is still in the internal storage, just in a different partition, very confusing.

jankko said:
In my unrooted Note 10.1 2014, I have the option to move application content to SD card (in application management in the settings). Is there something more a root would give me than this option?
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Yes, with root you can take a folder from /sdcard and actually redirect it to a folder on the external sdcard......assuming FolderMount or similar will work on the new Note 10.1. Mine is not rooted yet so I do not know whether it does.

Brand spankin' new P600-UD (US version, at least that is what it says on the box label). I have run squarely into /mnt/extSdCard and apps like Kindle. They expect physical SDcards to be at /mnt/sdcard and cannot be changed. For at least 12 months and 1 day, I can't afford to trip the warranty flag. Any workaround to access mount or make a shortcut or fool the Kindle app into behaving?
Homer

My take on storage
In Sweden the prices for extra storage very high which is not helpful as there already is a high base price:
Exchange rate: 1 USD= 6.47840424 SEK
25% VAT included
Note 600 2014 Wifi 16 Gb: 739.37 USD
Note 600 2014 Wifi 32 Gb: 847.43 USD
Note 605 2014 LTE 16 Gb: 917.97 USD (This is my unit)
Note 605 2014 LTE 32 Gb: 1 078.96 USD
The fastest 64 Gb microSDXC is the SanDisk Extreme (Plus) which is sold in Sweden for 123.17 USD.
I thought the fastest memory card would give the most benefit but I was wrong since the transfer speeds were much slower than advertised when transferring data to/from the memory card when it is connected to the computer. Can this be due to the MTP protocol?
My advice to you guys is to skip the one I bought and settle for the more cheaper 64Gb alternatives instead.