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It just annoys me that knowing Android phone having better GPU than iPhone while not having game that take advantage or UI hardware acceleration for the matter of fact.
Look at Rage HD released on iPhone/iPad Today, it simply looks amazing, and it ran well on iPad's last generation hardware. I believe the same game can run even better on Galaxy S phones; however, because of our freedom to install any application (ie. installable .apk -> Rampant piracy), many developers avoided Android market like fly's trap. (Gameloft comes to mind).
Anyways here's a short video by Gizmodo. Enjoy.
http://gizmodo.com/5693208/download-the-most-badass-iphone-first+person-shooter-ever-right-now
Edit: oh yeah, did I mention it was only $2 dollar?
Carmack has said they are working on Rage for Android next.
Yeah theyve already said they are making an Android version.
Graphics are amazing, but Im not really a fan of on-rails shooters.
Yeap thats one of the many reasons. I got like 8 hacked apk games my self! Plus apple has lots of support even through its not as open as android. Hope soon that changes. Because after playing a few 3d games on my vibrant I know how cool it would be to have a game like RageHD on android. One other reason is because there are way to many android devices with lots of different specs and that might be a big issue.
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Well...let me explain why this happens. The iPhone is great to develop for because there are essentially 3 devices (4 if you add iPad). This makes development and testing significantly easier and cheaper since you only have to support a very small number of devices. Apps that are iPhone4 or iPad only only have to be tested on a single device. For a game developer this is huge. This is why some great games only come out on Consoles and not PC's. Its because the developers don't have to test against dozens upon dozens of video cards, OS versions, screen sizes, RAM configurations, processors from multiple manufacturers. If you need to do some binary code for optimization, a single platform makes this simple.
All of this same stuff applies to Android phones. There are hundreds of different models, different screen sizes, OS versions, GPUs, Processors, Driver issues, etc etc. While app development may actually be easier on Android, its also much much harder to deliver a game experience across such a diverse platform.
Well if u like racing games check out Need For Speed Shift. Awesome game and looks and runs great!
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Augmented reality games are cool
Hopefully it picks up for us Android guys as well
http://vimeo.com/14778617
I would love to fire something up at the meeting
You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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Rodriguez92 said:
You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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No body speaks of piracy here, so I don't understand your point here.
I don't think Gameloft is withholding the games from the market strictly on piracy issues...
This game seems cool the graphics are awesome...but it not being for android reminds me of how much I want Pocket God for android.
I've been playing Hawx and Asphalt and I'm pretty impressed. I'm not really a gamer so ymmv.
Don't blame me, blame my keyboard's autocorrection algorithm.
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You guys talk about having apk files that we can streak easily but apple products can easily be jailbroken so they get those games for free 2
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True, but that doesn't make it any harder for them to develop for iOS, and only a very small minority of iOS users jailbreak their phones. Android comes by default allowing installable APKs. That's a huge, factorable difference. It means people only need to do a Google search to pirate software (unless they're on AT&T).
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Is this for real? true arcade/dreamcast version? how come no Android version?
Because ios is a better platform to release stuff on if you look at it from a developers point of view ; but this is also debateable... Here's a link for you to read up on http://mashable.com/2011/12/14/developers-prefer-ios/
These games make a good case for the physical controls on Sony EricssonXperia Play Android phone.
Hope it will be released fo Android soon.
Of course there's a lot of iOS games that would technically be better on android hardware (hence why I ditched my iDevice for an Xperia PLAY), but it's a numbers game, and companies will compromise the integrity of their software's working order if that means they can break into a booming market.
Truth told, this Xperia PLAY kicks my iDevices ass at gaming, but the market isn't exactly booming.
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Piracy is the top reason.
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Xperia PLAY , SoulCalibur and wifi hotspot to play online is a good thing in concept.
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Piracy is the top reason.
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I second that.
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Also with games you have to realize that they aren't making the game for 'Android'. Most games have to use the NDK to get the performance that's equal to iOS. Meaning each proc+GPU combo is like their own platform. Which is why Android games tend to list the compatible phones.
So when you think, look at the number of Android handsets! Surely Android will get X game first! Keep in mind that most game devs have to look at the numbers for models of Phone.
The Xperia Play has it good since it's userbase tends to buy every game out there And there are several phones that are using the same specs.
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Also with games you have to realize that they aren't making the game for 'Android'. Most games have to use the NDK to get the performance that's equal to iOS. Meaning each proc+GPU combo is like their own platform. Which is why Android games tend to list the compatible phones.
So when you think, look at the number of Android handsets! Surely Android will get X game first! Keep in mind that most game devs have to look at the numbers for models of Phone.
The Xperia Play has it good since it's userbase tends to buy every game out there And there are several phones that are using the same specs.
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True 3rd point.
But honestly its all due to piracy.
Anyone with root can pirate so framework needs to be lightly modified.
But its just a cat and rat game after that, devs will encrypt hackers will decrypt
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You speak as if Installous and others did not exist.
But the market share for apple to android is ridiculous on top of that updates are constant , for the apps and the os.
I'm quite sure installous got taken down. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Thanks
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But honestly piracy start on ios first and still today !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's harder to pirate on ios and since it voids your warranty many people don't jailbreak, thus why it's more profitable to release on ios.. It's also easier since they only have to optimise the App for a few devices to reach millions of people whereas with android and it's hundreds of devices its slightly harder
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Got it on my iPad 2 and it's an amazing port.
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Nabeel_Nabs said:
It's harder to pirate on ios and since it voids your warranty many people don't jailbreak, thus why it's more profitable to release on ios.. It's also easier since they only have to optimise the App for a few devices to reach millions of people whereas with android and it's hundreds of devices its slightly harder
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LOL what? Many people jailbreak. Like over a million people jailbroke their iPad 2 and iPhone 4S in 3 days,that's not even including the older devices.
Jailbreaking does void your warrarnty but it can be fixed with a simple restore. DONE.
Ok piracy is a big problem but people want freedom on there phones.Make a good game like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 in online multiplayer. Its a drug!!!!!!!!!!!
Just found this. Sony would be stupid to do this. I understand their reasons. But still think its suicide commercially
http://feeds.itproportal.com/~r/itproportal/rss/~3/oDe_Wkfa2qQ/
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I thought they only patented the tech? Not that they were going to implement it
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I don't think they will do this because there was this scare on the ps3 release when people said that the ps3 "engraves" the game disk with a kind of encryption so only that ps3 can read it but Sony did not do that so I dont think they will do this
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They created the tech and are patenting it thats all this is, because if they don't someone else will.
There were rumors of this last year, and HUGE public backlash to the point they released a statement saying they would not do it.
If I can't play preowned games on a Playstation 4, F*****uck Sony, I'm serious if I can't play preowned games I will be looking towards Microsoft.
Sony could have had an extra marketing tool by letting people play ps2 games on the original fat ps3's. But they took that away and disabled any such feature. IMO I hope Sony steps back from their gaming console and see that they're murdering it.
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If I can't play preowned games on a Playstation 4, F*****uck Sony, I'm serious if I can't play preowned games I will be looking towards Microsoft.
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Microsoft wants the exact samething.
If this is true then I whole heartedly support it. Game devs make nothing from pre owned sales. You like a particular dev then buy their games brand new
Simple as
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If this is true then I whole heartedly support it. Game devs make nothing from pre owned sales. You like a particular dev then buy their games brand new
Simple as
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But this would also prevent you taking a game over to a friend's house or lending a game. Furthermore, people trade in games in order to buy new games often but this would also prevent that
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But this would also prevent you taking a game over to a friend's house or lending a game. Furthermore, people trade in games in order to buy new games often but this would also prevent that
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It's a necessary trade off
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Been this way on the PC for years due to single use codes. No-one will trade in PC games, hence why Steam has become so prolific.
The flipside of this could be that because game devs/publishers would be making more profit from sales, retail prices could drop to similar levels as PC games. The price of console games is the specific reason my Xbox is just a media centre and my pc is for gaming!!
i hope they do not implement it, and the patent will prevent other to try to implement it
And again... already been confirmed that while they have patented this, they are NOT going to implement it.
BTW if you research the PS3 you'll find that 2-3 versions of the original fat PS3 had PS2 backward compatibility. They worked on it for a while and found a couple problems. First was that not all PS2 games would work. Second was it was adding a huge amount to the cost. People were complaining about how much it cost (and not buying it), and people were complaining and even returning systems because all their PS2 games wouldn't play. They did the smartest thing, cut the R&D expenses and hardware expenses of continuing to develop a dead platform, lowering the price, and eliminating consumer expectation of every game working. Its called business
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And again... already been confirmed that while they have patented this, they are NOT going to implement it.
BTW if you research the PS3 you'll find that 2-3 versions of the original fat PS3 had PS2 backward compatibility. They worked on it for a while and found a couple problems. First was that not all PS2 games would work. Second was it was adding a huge amount to the cost. People were complaining about how much it cost (and not buying it), and people were complaining and even returning systems because all their PS2 games wouldn't play. They did the smartest thing, cut the R&D expenses and hardware expenses of continuing to develop a dead platform, lowering the price, and eliminating consumer expectation of every game working. Its called business
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I did look a little into it and Rogue Leader is correct, they have patented it. And in regards to the PS2 compatibility why do we t hink the PS2 is still around, at least until the current supplies are in stock... been confirmed EOL for PS2.
Thats probably why thge PS2 12 years later is still around as PS2 compatibility was dropped from PS3.
So with that in mind I guess this particular thread can be close as theres no need in keeping a thread open that would just confuse people...... unless of course $ony does decide to use this patent, but again it doesnt look like it, thye simply patented it.
What you guys seem to be forgetting is that sony is a business. Not your intimate family member. If you owned a company, profit would be one of your highest priorities if you were in Sony's position. Secondly, just because they applied for a patent does not mean they are going to use it. The ps3 and the xbox 360 currently have the functionality to block the use of pre-owned games, they aren't. Publishers are already making you buy "online passes" if you buy pre-owned games and want to play them online, this could be what Sony was going for. There have been rumours of microsoft also looking into a similar system. But wait, lets not bash the messengers, you also have to consider third part developers. They're more than likely pressuring Sony+Microsoft as they also don't recieve anything from pre-owned purchases. Now, please stop with the hate.
EDIT- Some of the points have already been made in this thread.
So I finished watching the PS4 press conference,and its all great,but I saw the Xperia Z mentioned trought and they said something about streaming ps1,2,3 games across the vita,tablets and phones. Now,I remember when I got my Xperia Play,Playstation certified was this big thing they overhyped where you were supposed to get playstation games and now its just a half-baked store nobody uses. Now,the technology exists,I've played pc games over OnLive with no lag on my 2 year old phone. I persionally think sony is gonna push playstation games to be streamed and downloaded on certified devices(legit store with lots of games),but they make a lot of promises they cant fulfil.
Anyways let me know what you think...I need a break from these trolls and 10 posts a day about HTC
Sv: Opinion on the playstation certified ecosystem
Never used the option on my 1 year old Xperia S. Saw a few games in a app hopeless in age but the price was in the very high end so no reason to start that adventure.
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it will be more meaningful once the trophies and leader board system is in place.
Never really used it since FPSE is doing wonders... It's nice to have it, but I have to try it out more - hopefully they'll integrate it with PS3's Playstation Network, add trophies and more games. Maybe PSP games, but I wouldn't count on it.
Playstation cert is just markrting.
I have few games which is awesome on grpahics side, but gameplay is like kid 5 years old made it.
I will never buy any game from PSM store.
Also they said that playstation phones will come somehow hybrid android, which could reboot or switch to playstation VITA rom, (like psvita, and that could make games compatibile to any ps phone) but no, sony didnt do anything.
Ps phone is just markrting and is a bull s, you know what i mean
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electrash said:
Also they said that playstation phones will come somehow hybrid android, which could reboot or switch to playstation VITA rom, (like psvita, and that could make games compatibile to any ps phone) but no, sony didnt do anything.
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I'm pretty sure that was a fan made-up rumour...
Anyway, I agree, Playstation certificate is a wasted potential. PSX emulators can do MUCH more than Sony's official PS app. Ok, i understand, you need to have the original PSX and games to be able to legally use emulators - but hey, who doesn't keep his old PSX on a silk pillow right ? I certainly do!
So about the PSN app...they really need to put more work into it. Come on Sony, you have thousands of games ready to enchance your smartphones, use it! If third-party emulators can flawlessly run each PSX games, you certainly can as well.
No, that wasnt fan boy rumor.
Sony says that by them self on official blog.
But that will never come true imo.
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electrash said:
No, that wasnt fan boy rumor.
Sony says that by them self on official blog.
But that will never come true imo.
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Could you provide a link ? Want to take a look.
Shame they didn't introduce it already if they said they would
Big announcement from Xaomi on Google Search saying it may be a new game console? With the rumored Xaomi/Ouya partnership could this be the Ouya 2??
Ouya does deserve some credit. How many companies can claim 1000+ games barring Sony or Microsoft? Grated they are not all top notch games nor should they be. Ouya started as a platform for inspiring game developers and indie players which in my opinion they have done? I know the developers be it a good or bad game spent countless hours putting those games on Ouya? I should think any hardcore gamer should embrace and support taking games back to its roots. Lately Ouya has stepped up to the plate making improvements to its OS and is still adding new games regardless of the bad press?
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/xiaomi-teases-launch-of-gaming-product-at-tuesday-event-650719
Unfortunately, Alibaba funds OUYA instead of xiaomi
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Alexsandra said:
Unfortunately, Alibaba funds OUYA instead of xiaomi
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I thought Ouya still had a agreement with Xiaomi is this no longer the case?
they have an agreement in place with both of them, read it on g+ the other day. I have ouya everywhere running on my rk3288 box ATM duck game tower fall and a few others run fine on it, so not bothered whether they release a new ouya tbh
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