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I'm looking at both these phones right now...but the store I'm looking at only has 2 S7s left in stock
There's a $40 cad difference in cost between the two
My #1 priority on a phone is headphone audio quality. #2 is camera quality
This is why I'm struggling so much between the two phones.
The Axon 7 does come with a case/screen protector and pair of Monster npulse headphones as well, which is a nice bonus over the s7 which is just the phone
Which would you get?
Also, I've been reading alot of negativity towards the Axon 7's low light performance. Has anyone tried using manual mode in low light to see if this is still an issue? Based on the images I've seen, it appears to be software using too high of an ISO setting causing much of the problems.
I just got my axon yesterday and camera is average to disappointing. Software is kinda glitchy at times but lighter than TouchWiz though TW has improved. The 640 DPI on axon is maddening and can't really be changed without affecting some apps if that is a concern but move Nova launcher does help to some extent. Battery is average though not stellar. . You can unlock bootloader on axon but it voids warranty if you care about that.
Speakers and screen are very very good.
If you are looking to save money the axon may suffice
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I just got my axon yesterday and camera is average to disappointing. Software is kinda glitchy at times but lighter than TouchWiz though TW has improved. The 640 DPI on axon is maddening and can't really be changed without affecting some apps if that is a concern but move Nova launcher does help to some extent. Battery is average though not stellar. If you are looking to save money the axon may suffice.
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How would you say the audio quality through headphones compares to the S7/Note 7?
I know the speakers on the device are vastly superior...but what about headphones?
May be slightly better but I am not one for these processed artificial dolby layers. I found the edge to be quite decent as well as Note 7 if you fiddle with equalizer and it depends on quality of headphones or earbuds. That is more subjective.
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I am selling my Axon for an S7 Edge. I will miss the awesome speakers but feel pretty much everything else is better on the Edge. Camera, screen, battery life, polished UI, etc. But man will i miss the speakers, the little speaker on the edge sounds horrible.
I hear you, no pun intended but any serious listening I use headphones or earbuds. The Edge and Note speaker is good enough for me for phone calls, etc. Would have been nice if they had stereo but everything else is improved over the axon but heck, can't beat that price for what the axon does.
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My #1 priority on a phone is headphone audio quality. #2 is camera quality
This is why I'm struggling so much between the two phones.
The Axon 7 does come with a case/screen protector and pair of Monster npulse headphones as well, which is a nice bonus over the s7 which is just the phone
Which would you get?
Also, I've been reading alot of negativity towards the Axon 7's low light performance. Has anyone tried using manual mode in low light to see if this is still an issue? Based on the images I've seen, it appears to be software using too high of an ISO setting causing much of the problems.
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1.- Speakers the Axon 7 is a beast and with headphones is 2xbeast :silly:, really love the sound from this device.
2.- Camera fails in Low Light ,not like is terrible to no good, but is the only downside I see so far compare to others. But is mostly software and as far as I know ZTE is working for fix, other than that takes good picture
Note : using Manual mode can make things a lot better, most of the reviews uses Auto Mode so FYI.
3.- the skin in the Axon 7 is close to stock + some OEM tweaks here and there, I use Nova prime for my needs and I really have no complains.
4.- having captive nag. Buttons is a big plus,
5.- The design and feels is super b, like it better than G5 or S7 Edge.
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The only area s7 family wins is in waterproof other than that Axon 7 is a pretty nice device , but is just my opinion.
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1.- Speakers the Axon 7 is a beast and with headphones is 2xbeast :silly:, really love the sound from this device.
2.- Camera fails in Low Light ,not like is terrible to no good, but is the only downside I see so far compare to others. But is mostly software and as far as I know ZTE is working for fix, other than that takes good picture
Note : using Manual mode can make things a lot better, most of the reviews uses Auto Mode so FYI.
3.- the skin in the Axon 7 is close to stock + some OEM tweaks here and there, I use Nova prime for my needs and I really have no complains.
4.- having captive nag. Buttons is a big plus,
5.- The design and feels is super b, like it better than G5 or S7 Edge.
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The only area s7 family wins is in waterproof other than that Axon 7 is a pretty nice device , but is just my opinion.
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How would you say it compares to the camera on the G4?
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How would you say it compares to the camera on the G4?
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Good question haven't actually compare my G4 to my A7...but what I can tell you using Auto-Mode in both devices, the A7 is better with good lighting conditions (AutoMode) and the G4 is slightly better in Low Light LG have betterxmore polish camera software (AutoMode) , things change a bit more when use Manual more.
Just considering lg is a actual Camera manufacture and have way more experience with camera software.
A lot A7 issues are software related and theoretical could be fixed by software patch. That being said ...if you don't care about rooting I would go with galaxy. Touchwiz has gotten a lot better. Only sacrifice is speakers are better on A7 if you care about that. GS7 has terrible speaker.
Either one is a good choice but headphones will sound close same (very margin better on A7) and camera Iis way better on gs7. Battery life maybe better on g7 till custom ROMs are built for a7.
G7 is better for what you want IMO
And if you are a VZW subscriber, I really doubt the axon will get whitelisted for it to work correctly and fully.
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And if you are a VZW subscriber, I really doubt the axon will get whitelisted for it to work correctly and fully.
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I'm with Rogers in Canada.
Here's a total breakdown of what I'm looking at
Open Box Sprint S7s are going for $621.49 after tax. Adding in $30 for a case and screen protector I'd be looking $650 all in
The Axon 7 comes to a total of $598.97 all in and includes a pair of Monster NPulse headphones with the order.(don't care about the headphones...but I could sell them for ~$100 or just gift them)
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I'm with Rogers in Canada.
Here's a total breakdown of what I'm looking at
Open Box Sprint S7s are going for $621.49 after tax. Adding in $30 for a case and screen protector I'd be looking $650 all in
The Axon 7 comes to a total of $598.97 all in and includes a pair of Monster NPulse headphones with the order.(don't care about the headphones...but I could sell them for ~$100 or just gift them)
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At those price points, S7 (edge???) is really a much better option. Sound can be EQd and Camera runs laps around this one, i am not as optimistic in ZTE getting it much more better. Manual mode is nice but it takes dialing in. If we ever get full API2 then a proper camera app maybe can do better. The waterproofing is also nice thing to have, it expands usage of the phone. For $50 diff it's a no brainier and it even has root-ability for now i think, so you can run customize it to extent with xposed. The only drawback would be if you are not into all that glass.
if they dont fix this camera im out. better take best camera from market than stereo speakers.
Had s7e exynos and hated it. Couldn't stand glass body soap shape, easily dirty, full of fingerprints (i do like metal unibody phones). Also TW is nasty, audio thru headphones really dissapointing (there is also a thread in s7e section). Only camera was impressive, i mean incredible fast auto focus. Besides photos look amazing at phone, but when i watched them on tv or PC they were over sharpened, too agressive post produced. I felt relief selling this overpriced shiny piece of crap.
Don't forget screen gonna piss you off cause of accidental touches of this nonsense edges.
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Thanks for the feedback everyone! I found someone selling an S7 locally today for too good of a deal to pass up, so it made my decision easy
S7 is a better phone, no question about it. I have s7 active for work.
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Help me decide guys, what do you think about the mate 9? The v20 only cool thing for me is the wide camera, but the mate 9 looks so nice..
I'm starting to hate LG, the phone is still not released in my country and I'm getting more choices everyday, I hate choosing!
I asked the same thing last week, and didn't get much response.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/v20-vs-huawei-mate-9-t3492776/post69435272#post69435272
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I'm waiting for the unlocked US996 V20 to come out, and also to see how the Mate 9 stacks up.
there some report that mate9 support sprint but if it really do I will definitely look at it
Great design. This phone lost me at 1080P screen.
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1080p screen = pass imo. V20 wins
Really? At this point anything past 1080p is just a difference in epenis status and brag rights.
The only point in higher resolution is for vr, but because the screen is IPS it wouldn't be supported anyways.
I was worried about the 1080p too, and a lot, but when I checked last year's mate 8, it was still gorgeous, I don't think I'd see a difference without VR
I'm thinking of Huawei Mate 9 because the V20 isn't available in the UK. Can a 1080 screen still be used by Google's daydream?
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im going just be pushing 720p and 1080p video on it... I dont need 4k on a phone...
No problem with the screen resolution.
If Huawei software wasn't that awful, I might consider this Mate 9. But their Emui is unbearable.
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No problem with the screen resolution.
If Huawei software wasn't that awful, I might consider this Mate 9. But their Emui is unbearable.
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Each to their own, Emui is actually very good and the Mate 8 was a mile better than the v10 and I'm hoping the Mate 9 will be better than the v20. A lot of people can't get past the lack of an app drawer on Emui which they've fixed in v5 and you can always download launcher of choice.
I sold my Mate 8 in preparation for buying a Mate 9 and am stuck with my work supplied Oneplus 3 which again doesn't compare to the Mate 8.
What's so good about the Mate 8, battery life, size screen which is subjective I know, build quality etc and the Mate 9 looks like it will only be better in every way.
But, can I wait for the Mate 9 or do I try the v20 for a few weeks......
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I looked into the emu i and i do like some of the feature of it but like you said ^ I probably still put Nova on it. Waiting to know if the mate9 work on sprint or waiting on better V20 promo =3....
How does Huawei do software support? My experience is that LG, while they don't provide updates for very long, tend to kick out their updates faster than others (second only to google)
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If the past is any indication, LG tends to offer the best promo offers right at first and go down from there. The v10 promo was initially 200gb SD card, spare battery and battery cradle. Then it went to 64gb with extra battery and battery cradle. To just one or the other (64gb or extra battery)
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In the battery department they're way different, mate 9 is miles ahead, but I'm kinda sad that all my Qualcomm quick charge accessories will be worthless if I go with the mate 9..by the way google says mate 9 is compatible with Vr.
I'm pretty sure lgs camera is better in low light, coming from S6 which I believe is the best camera yet, I can't downgrade
Thanks! Also, I've seen some Mate 9 photo/video comparisons after Huawei gave the phone to reviewers. The Mate 9 is badly in need of a software update and is obviously not working optimally. (The stabilisation for example, sucks!) So doing any kind of in depth comparison at this point is unhelpful imo, until the software update.
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I think some manual tweaking to the camera settings will show what this phone can do.
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The Mate 9 specs are now up
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/tech-specs/mate9-en.htm
while it may work OK on T-mobile and AT&T, it is missing the proper CDMA and LTE 13 bands to work on Verizon.
Still wish they would release a US Unlocked model that would work for all the US carriers.
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Why? Worst battery life V20 loose...
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I've yet to see a camera comparison between the V20 and the Mate 9. But from what I've seen individually, it looks like the V20 may do better with both pictures and video.
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I've yet to see a camera comparison between the V20 and the Mate 9. But from what I've seen individually, it looks like the V20 may do better with both pictures and video.
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Exactly, I don't know why no one does this, camera and battery are my biggest deciding factor
Fellow XDA members check out my video comparison of the Huawei Mate 9 Pro and the Samsung galaxy s7 edge, you will be surprised, Mod Edit
Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
Since we're discussing the Mate 9 as well (vs Mate 9 Pro), i'll re-add the comments i previously deleted. Chose the Mate 9 over S7E due to (a) battery life, (b) preference for flat (or much less of a curved) screen and (c) big screen with good form factor. S7E served me well for 8 months. I'm not a fan of the S7E's curved screen, but the Note 7 curved screen was doable. With the Note 7 "evaporating" from the smartphone scene, (for me) there were no viable alternatives until i saw/fondled the Mate 9. i've made a few compromises to use the Mate 9 (vs the S7E) such as opting for the FHD vs QHD screen, better camera on S7E, etc. (for me) Mate 9 offers best form/function capabilities, camera will support my use/needs and the compromises i've accepted (in my opinion) are not show stoppers. did i mention that, with the addition of an active stylus, i can manage my Note 7 withdrawal symptoms until the international version of the Note 8 is available? finally, i cut the cord with my S7E when i gave it to my wife as her "yearly" upgrade until the S8 is available for her.
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Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
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I don't. I couldn't be more satisfied with my M9.
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Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
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Nope. Sold my S7E for Mate 9 and never looked back. Mate 9 is superior against S7 family in every way, except one. Waterproof.
Mate 9 camera is just awesome.
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Nope. Sold my S7E for Mate 9 and never looked back. Mate 9 is superior against S7 family in every way, except one. Waterproof.
Mate 9 camera is just awesome.
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No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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I don't. I couldn't be more satisfied with my M9.
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What do you think of the Mate 9 pro?
ramheer said:
What do you think of the Mate 9 pro?
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Well I own the Mate 9 normal because I like the design the best. But I think you wouldn't be missing nothing if you choose it instead of s7
ramheer said:
No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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In good and "normal" light Mate has much better dynamics and colors are more natural. I don't like how much S7 is sharpening the pictures and you can see it by zooming the picture.
In really dark situations S7 takes better pictures (f1.7 is able to gather more light than f2.2) but Mate's monochrome sensor gives additional boost to Mate. So in overall I would rate Mate and S7 pictures pretty close, but slight edge on S7 side in dark.
But Mate camera is more capable with all different modes (Leica colors, light trails, monochrome sensor etc.) so in overall Mate is better in camera area.
This is my personal opinion and I have used S7 Edge 6 months before buying Mate.
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In good and "normal" light Mate has much better dynamics and colors are more natural. I don't like how much S7 is sharpening the pictures and you can see it by zooming the picture.
In really dark situations S7 takes better pictures (f1.7 is able to gather more light than f2.2) but Mate's monochrome sensor gives additional boost to Mate. So in overall I would rate Mate and S7 pictures pretty close, but slight edge on S7 side in dark.
But Mate camera is more capable with all different modes (Leica colors, light trails, monochrome sensor etc.) so in overall Mate is better in camera area.
This is my personal opinion and I have used S7 Edge 6 months before buying Mate.
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See I would agree but then I did a side by side comparison and was surprised how poor the Mate 9 is in dark situations, I will have to look into further
ramheer said:
See I would agree but then I did a side by side comparison and was surprised how poor the Mate 9 is in dark situations, I will have to look into further
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I have noticed that it depends of the darkness. In really dark situations, without any light, S7 Edge is superior against Mate. But then again, I don't usually take that kind of shots with my phone.
Mate 9 starts to shine if there is some kind of a light source in picture
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I have noticed that it depends of the darkness. In really dark situations, without any light, S7 Edge is superior against Mate. But then again, I don't usually take that kind of shots with my phone.
Mate 9 starts to shine if there is some kind of a light source in picture
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I like the Mate 9 camera, it is very good, it just depends on how someone personally uses it and what situations
Beside low light, I think laser focus is still inconsistent & slow compare with S7 dual pixel focus.. It makes alot difference when capturing kids..
with root i can uc and uv? the mate 9?
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with root i can uc and uv? the mate 9?
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There are not custom kernels yet.
so what it the meaning to root XD, only to greenify? or tasker?
Both take sh**ty pictures in low light, even if one is slightly better than the other, its still sh**ty. But I digress, I switched from S7E to Mate 9 purely because apps launch quicker, longer battery life, Leica optics, flat screen, and that super charge tho!
Just bought mate 9 to replace s7e, gonna miss the awesome dac and ip68 rating as well as dual pixel focus but the m9 is much better in terms of speed, battery big beautiful IPS screen, slightly better camera in normal light, crazy fast and doesn't throttle on gaming due to no DVFS like in sammy phones....
Still evaluating the M9, but it seems a big keeper, now as for DAC it serves mine Sennihizer Momentum HP well.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good usb DAC?
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No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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Agree but either way those good low light pictures are not that great
Got a burned pixel on my s7E after just 2 months, switched to Mate 9 pro. I was already impressed by the P9 but the LON exceeded my expectations, the Leica is sublime, the design is way more better than that of the S7E. Graphic performance are less impressive but there's a feeling of strength combined to the smooth and fluidity that makes the Huwaei machine better in my opinion. Sound output and battery life are also better on my LON.
Hi,
I am going to buy a new phone but I can't decide what to buy. I have 3 options. Oneplus 5, Huawei P10 or Huawei Mate 9. Since all of them really powerfull I focused on camera, design and battery. Which one should I buy?
Oneplus 5 has a great camera. The Huawei P10 is no slouch either.
I am not a fan of the Huawei Mate 9 design, I lean more towards the P10 and OnePlus 5.
The battery life on OnePlus 5 is excellent I'm getting about 7 to 8 hours of screen on time.
PS. I'm not a fan of the stock launcher on Huawei either. I would want to change it to Nova launcher really quickly.
I would get the OnePlus 5 but I am obviously a bias on the matter. All in all they are great options, and I don't think you would be disappointed in any of them.
You could try the honor 9. It sounds really good too. The camera seems to be focused on being high powered. I'd go for that one as opposed to the other Huawei phones you mentioned
It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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How these phone cameras compare? I'm interested if the Oneplus 5 camera is a step-up in camera department from the Mate.
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Oneplus 5 has a great camera. The Huawei P10 is no slouch either.
I am not a fan of the Huawei Mate 9 design, I lean more towards the P10 and OnePlus 5.
The battery life on OnePlus 5 is excellent I'm getting about 7 to 8 hours of screen on time.
PS. I'm not a fan of the stock launcher on Huawei either. I would want to change it to Nova launcher really quickly.
I would get the OnePlus 5 but I am obviously a bias on the matter. All in all they are great options, and I don't think you would be disappointed in any of them.
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Thank you very much. What about camera? Are you happy? Also Is outside brightness enough for you?
OcazPrime said:
You could try the honor 9. It sounds really good too. The camera seems to be focused on being high powered. I'd go for that one as opposed to the other Huawei phones you mentioned
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It's not avaible in my country.
MrWilsonxD said:
It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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Thank you very much! One day in long usage is fine. Mate 9 is really big and heavy. Also I have to change it's region after I buy it beacuse i can't buy it with official warrenty. Region change is hard because of bootloader and there aren't much developers.
What about P10? I can buy P10 with official warrenty. Price of P10 and Oneplus 5 are almost same here.
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Thank you very much! One day in long usage is fine. Mate 9 is really big and heavy. Also I have to change it's region after I buy it beacuse i can't buy it with official warrenty. Region change is hard because of bootloader and there aren't much developers.
What about P10? I can buy P10 with official warrenty. Price of P10 and Oneplus 5 are almost same here.
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Honestly, there's no comparing the ease of using the oneplus 5 to any huawei device with region changes/ bootloader unlock/ dev community.. Personally I give the edge to the oneplus for simplicity. There's no hoops you have to jump through to operate your phone. The mate 9/p10 are all hoops.. My mom can't get updates on her mate 9 because she lives stateside..
Again, I think the battery size the mate 9 or p10 have over the oneplus 5.. But if you're charging every night, it won't make a difference. Furthermore, the availability of dash charge accessories is more widely available than the mate 9 super or turbo charge accessories.
Don't get me wrong, both are great phones, but really, the oneplus offers a better software experience I think, which is the most important part I think..with So many other aspects being so close.
4k eis on oneplus 5 is incredible btw..
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Honestly, there's no comparing the ease of using the oneplus 5 to any huawei device with region changes/ bootloader unlock/ dev community.. Personally I give the edge to the oneplus for simplicity. There's no hoops you have to jump through to operate your phone. The mate 9/p10 are all hoops.. My mom can't get updates on her mate 9 because she lives stateside..
Again, I think the battery size the mate 9 or p10 have over the oneplus 5.. But if you're charging every night, it won't make a difference. Furthermore, the availability of dash charge accessories is more widely available than the mate 9 super or turbo charge accessories.
Don't get me wrong, both are great phones, but really, the oneplus offers a better software experience I think, which is the most important part I think..with So many other aspects being so close.
4k eis on oneplus 5 is incredible btw..
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Huawei P10 has 3200Mah battery. I think OnePlus 5's battery goes more than P10's. Am I correct?
The camera of p10 is better imo, it can take black and white shots etc. Also it has official Huawei warrenty.
Battery is more important for me so I think I will go for OnePlus 5. Thank you very much for that great informations.
Lastly I heard OnePlus5 outdoor brightness is not enough, what do you think about it?
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Huawei P10 has 3200Mah battery. I think OnePlus 5's battery goes more than P10's. Am I correct?
The camera of p10 is better imo, it can take black and white shots etc. Also it has official Huawei warrenty.
Battery is more important for me so I think I will go for OnePlus 5. Thank you very much for that great informations.
Lastly I heard OnePlus5 outdoor brightness is not enough, what do you think about it?
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Actually, the outdoor brightness is surprisingly good! The OP5 has a screen that seems very similar to the S8, in terms of brightness and colors (my opinion). It's a really good Super Amoled screen compared to the rest of the Flagships aside from Samsung.
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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I have both - WiFi is better on the Mate 9.
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Actually, the outdoor brightness is surprisingly good! The OP5 has a screen that seems very similar to the S8, in terms of brightness and colors (my opinion). It's a really good Super Amoled screen compared to the rest of the Flagships aside from Samsung.
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Csetoue said:
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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Thank you very much you all! I ordered 1+5 and it will arrive today. I think it's the best option for me.
Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
samlis said:
Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
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The Huawei P30 pro has a great camera and a solid battery but a 1080p display and the software experience isn't that great imo.
The Note 9 is an amazing all around phone that I would consider if you're looking for a bargain but the Note 10 will be available in less than a month.
The S10 plus has everything, the camera, the display the software experience the battery. You just can't go wrong with this phone.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
If I were you , I'll just see and wait for the note 10 to see what it offers better
kevinireland11 said:
I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
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I agree. The S10+ has a lot of great things about it but the OP specifically listed the camera as being one of his top priorities. Samsung has fallen behind its competitors in that area. If the OP had a Mate 20 he might be disappointed with the Galaxy camera.
The Galaxy S10+ also charges much less quickly than Huawei and Xiaomi phones (the speed difference is huge with wireless charging) which is the other obvious area where Samsung has fallen behind their competitors.
I think Samsung's huge market share made them complacent which is why they haven't kept pace with innovation--the Galaxy phones have only been offering incremental upgrades from year to year for a while now.
Supposedly the S11 Galaxy line is finally going to change that but we have a while to wait on those.
S10+ exynos for the win
jhs39 said:
Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
edit: @ jhs38 like usual, stock camera doesn't have any options for improving picture quality in Auto mode. Just picture format, light conditions and HDR on/off
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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Last paragraph spot on.
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It was announced today that the Note 10 might feature an AI assisted camera which supports what I was saying earlier about the Samsung camera lagging behind its competitors--both Huawei and Xiaomi added that functionality to the cameras in their flagship phones 2 years ago.
But since Samsung doesn't have to compete against Huawei or Xiaomi in the United States a lot of people here will think Samsung is being innovative.