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Huawii P9 duo cameras vs s7

I wonder if it gonna beat the s7 and if so by how much.

Huawei P9 Leica Dual Camera, 270 percent more light than an iPhone 6S, and 70 percent more light than a Galaxy S7.
Derpling said:
I wonder if it gonna beat the s7 and if so by how much.
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Derpling said:
I wonder if it gonna beat the s7 and if so by how much.
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sezinlynn said:
Huawei P9 Leica Dual Camera, 270 percent more light than an iPhone 6S, and 70 percent more light than a Galaxy S7.
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Actually there is no contenst, S7 will easily win. The P9 does not have optical image stabilization, for starters. The aperture is F2.2 in the P9, which means that the S7 is one stop better (100% more light entering the sensor).
And the "270% more light" thing is only for the monochrome sensor. It remains to be seen if the software processing will be able to do something really useful with the black and white images.

I actually noticed with last update that sammy added new option in cam app called shape correction.
The more i take photos with s7 the more impressed i become

It's got 12 MP with f/2.2 sensor, I can't see it beating the f/1.7 sensor

There are samples already out. No contest, easy win for s7

http://www.mobilegeeks.de/artikel/huawei-p9-vs-lg-g5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-kameravergleich/
let's see whose eyes are good, or whether it's fated that we all can't have good things.

full size samples
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4546/4978863/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-32gb-review/

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full size samples
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4546/4978863/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-32gb-review/
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Hard to gauge. The shots are all badly taken, you can see resolution but will not be able to see much real camera performance there.

Cst79 said:
Actually there is no contenst, S7 will easily win. The P9 does not have optical image stabilization, for starters. The aperture is F2.2 in the P9, which means that the S7 is one stop better (100% more light entering the sensor).
And the "270% more light" thing is only for the monochrome sensor. It remains to be seen if the software processing will be able to do something really useful with the black and white images.
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Half a stop, so it's 50% more light. Still pretty big difference in favor of the S7 and specially since it also has OIS so definitely a lot better than P9 in darkness . Not impressed with the P9 camera. As an owner of a Mate 8 I find it a little dissapointing.

dannejanne said:
Half a stop, so it's 50% more light. Still pretty big difference in favor of the S7 and specially since it also has OIS so definitely a lot better than P9 in darkness . Not impressed with the P9 camera. As an owner of a Mate 8 I find it a little dissapointing.
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Actually if you want to get really technical, the difference between F1.7 and F2.2 is 0.83 EV, so 83% more light in favor of the S7.

Cst79 said:
Actually if you want to get really technical, the difference between F1.7 and F2.2 is 0.83 EV, so 83% more light in favor of the S7.
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But there's 2 cameras so that's already 100% more. The monochrome sensor also has no color filter for 200% more light.
So if one regular f2.2 camera is 1 unit, the P9 can claim to recieve 4 units of light. Compared to the 1.83 units of the s7.
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I thought p9 has ois ? And adjustable aperture

Oneplus 5 vs Huawei

Hi,
I am going to buy a new phone but I can't decide what to buy. I have 3 options. Oneplus 5, Huawei P10 or Huawei Mate 9. Since all of them really powerfull I focused on camera, design and battery. Which one should I buy?

Oneplus 5 has a great camera. The Huawei P10 is no slouch either.
I am not a fan of the Huawei Mate 9 design, I lean more towards the P10 and OnePlus 5.
The battery life on OnePlus 5 is excellent I'm getting about 7 to 8 hours of screen on time.
PS. I'm not a fan of the stock launcher on Huawei either. I would want to change it to Nova launcher really quickly.
I would get the OnePlus 5 but I am obviously a bias on the matter. All in all they are great options, and I don't think you would be disappointed in any of them.

You could try the honor 9. It sounds really good too. The camera seems to be focused on being high powered. I'd go for that one as opposed to the other Huawei phones you mentioned

It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.

MrWilsonxD said:
It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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How these phone cameras compare? I'm interested if the Oneplus 5 camera is a step-up in camera department from the Mate.

zackaryk said:
Oneplus 5 has a great camera. The Huawei P10 is no slouch either.
I am not a fan of the Huawei Mate 9 design, I lean more towards the P10 and OnePlus 5.
The battery life on OnePlus 5 is excellent I'm getting about 7 to 8 hours of screen on time.
PS. I'm not a fan of the stock launcher on Huawei either. I would want to change it to Nova launcher really quickly.
I would get the OnePlus 5 but I am obviously a bias on the matter. All in all they are great options, and I don't think you would be disappointed in any of them.
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Thank you very much. What about camera? Are you happy? Also Is outside brightness enough for you?
OcazPrime said:
You could try the honor 9. It sounds really good too. The camera seems to be focused on being high powered. I'd go for that one as opposed to the other Huawei phones you mentioned
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It's not avaible in my country.
MrWilsonxD said:
It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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Thank you very much! One day in long usage is fine. Mate 9 is really big and heavy. Also I have to change it's region after I buy it beacuse i can't buy it with official warrenty. Region change is hard because of bootloader and there aren't much developers.
What about P10? I can buy P10 with official warrenty. Price of P10 and Oneplus 5 are almost same here.

TheAreS said:
Thank you very much! One day in long usage is fine. Mate 9 is really big and heavy. Also I have to change it's region after I buy it beacuse i can't buy it with official warrenty. Region change is hard because of bootloader and there aren't much developers.
What about P10? I can buy P10 with official warrenty. Price of P10 and Oneplus 5 are almost same here.
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Honestly, there's no comparing the ease of using the oneplus 5 to any huawei device with region changes/ bootloader unlock/ dev community.. Personally I give the edge to the oneplus for simplicity. There's no hoops you have to jump through to operate your phone. The mate 9/p10 are all hoops.. My mom can't get updates on her mate 9 because she lives stateside..
Again, I think the battery size the mate 9 or p10 have over the oneplus 5.. But if you're charging every night, it won't make a difference. Furthermore, the availability of dash charge accessories is more widely available than the mate 9 super or turbo charge accessories.
Don't get me wrong, both are great phones, but really, the oneplus offers a better software experience I think, which is the most important part I think..with So many other aspects being so close.
4k eis on oneplus 5 is incredible btw..

MrWilsonxD said:
Honestly, there's no comparing the ease of using the oneplus 5 to any huawei device with region changes/ bootloader unlock/ dev community.. Personally I give the edge to the oneplus for simplicity. There's no hoops you have to jump through to operate your phone. The mate 9/p10 are all hoops.. My mom can't get updates on her mate 9 because she lives stateside..
Again, I think the battery size the mate 9 or p10 have over the oneplus 5.. But if you're charging every night, it won't make a difference. Furthermore, the availability of dash charge accessories is more widely available than the mate 9 super or turbo charge accessories.
Don't get me wrong, both are great phones, but really, the oneplus offers a better software experience I think, which is the most important part I think..with So many other aspects being so close.
4k eis on oneplus 5 is incredible btw..
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Huawei P10 has 3200Mah battery. I think OnePlus 5's battery goes more than P10's. Am I correct?
The camera of p10 is better imo, it can take black and white shots etc. Also it has official Huawei warrenty.
Battery is more important for me so I think I will go for OnePlus 5. Thank you very much for that great informations.
Lastly I heard OnePlus5 outdoor brightness is not enough, what do you think about it?

TheAreS said:
Huawei P10 has 3200Mah battery. I think OnePlus 5's battery goes more than P10's. Am I correct?
The camera of p10 is better imo, it can take black and white shots etc. Also it has official Huawei warrenty.
Battery is more important for me so I think I will go for OnePlus 5. Thank you very much for that great informations.
Lastly I heard OnePlus5 outdoor brightness is not enough, what do you think about it?
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Actually, the outdoor brightness is surprisingly good! The OP5 has a screen that seems very similar to the S8, in terms of brightness and colors (my opinion). It's a really good Super Amoled screen compared to the rest of the Flagships aside from Samsung.

Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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Csetoue said:
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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I have both - WiFi is better on the Mate 9.

shadymouse said:
Actually, the outdoor brightness is surprisingly good! The OP5 has a screen that seems very similar to the S8, in terms of brightness and colors (my opinion). It's a really good Super Amoled screen compared to the rest of the Flagships aside from Samsung.
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Csetoue said:
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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Thank you very much you all! I ordered 1+5 and it will arrive today. I think it's the best option for me.

Switch from Samsung Galaxy S7 to Redmi Note 7

Someone here switched from Galaxy S7 or S7 Edge to Redmi note 7 ?

s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?

chiplovez9x said:
s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?
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I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.

Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
Processor, functionality, performance, build quality, battery life, camera, gaming etc
Mi 8 can now be had for under $400 new as well if price matters to you

Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better

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achour7 said:
Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better
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I'm not sure... S7 photos may be a little better since it was the flagship of the year a couple years back.
If you're worried about photos, I'd get the Mi 8 or if you can afford... Skip the Xiaomi budget line altogether and go straight for the The Mi 9.
Don't get me wrong... Redmi Note 7 or it's twin brother Mi 8 Lite are both spectacular phones especially for the money to value quotient. They pack a hell of a punch and are popular globally for a reason but coming from the S7, if you're not willing to compromise a little bit in the area of video and photo quality, you're better off shopping for a Xiaomi flagship.
Either phone (Mi 8 or Mi 9) is the flagship experience you want but the Mi 9 will blow you away and be the true upgrade you're looking for

tiguy99 said:
Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
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I just got a Redmi Note 7 today, and it will replace a ZTE Axon 7 (Snapdragon 820, like the US version S7), so I'm in a similar position.
Haven't used it much yet, but initial impressions are very good. I just run some tests on both phones in Geekbench Pro, and the Redmi Note 7 won in some areas, while the Axon 7 still smoked it in some tests. You're right, the overall performance should feel pretty similar to the S7.
Benchmarks aside, I'm happy to have a new device that is fully up to date - stock Pie (that I'll dump in favor of LOS as soon as I'm able, haha), a big battery and efficient CPU, a really fast fingerprint scanner in a natural position (meaning NOT on the front), a big screen (any bigger wouldn't fit my pocket), VOLTE, a decent camera, and some support on XDA. It took me a while to decide to buy it because I was concerned about it not having an OLED screen but now I don't think it's going to be an issue - it looks good. Works with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) here.
Only Day 1, but I'm satisfied so far, especially for $200!

RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)

These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.

tiguy99 said:
These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.
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I finally replaced my S7 and for now I am completely satisfied except the camera. I will test Gcam and see the result...

chazy chaz said:
RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)
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I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.

That's awesome!
Can't wait until you try GCam.
Think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Also try open camera for 4K video recording?
achour7 said:
I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.
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achour7 said:
I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.
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Yes Redmi note 7 is next level in term of screen size, entertaining purpose, everyday all around. Battery life 2 days on minimal use. Picture not as good as s7 edge

I replaced Huawei P10 whit RN7 and I'm surprised how better it is comparing to P10. Screen picture quality is way better and camera whit Gcam too. P10 have Leica lense blā, blā, but I don't like Leica look and that camera overexposes picture, loses detail in texture whit smoothing, makes picture to oversaturated and colors too neutral. RN7 whit GCam is neutral, exposes good and colors are good. If You like overprocessed pictures then You might want different camera app.
P10 is not S7, but I can say this phone is good. Only complains are weight, and writing is a bit hard for Me in position as I hold the phone. Of course there is minor things like screen is a bit less bright comparing to P10, plastic body, speaker can be more clear, still usb 2.0, no nfc, no IP rating etc. If You don't want to spend alot of money on phone as I do then this is solid choice. For that extra 250€ I would spend on phone I can buy alot of different things for Me.

Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.

bestjsg said:
Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.
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Plus we can help you negate some of the flaws
To get the original look with the added app drawer, install Poco Launcher from the Play Store and you're done with that part.
Screen res? Can you actually notice S7's higher pixels per inch count? Nothing to do about that though.
To overcome the lack of permanent notifications at the top, install Notch Test (Notifications for MIUI) and set up the position, give all permissions to the app, autostart, set battery restrictions to none, and lock it in the app switcher so MIUI can't kill it off. I have the icons position set to 215 from the left and 36 from the top. Works great and mitigates the issue completely (issue for those of us not coming from MIUI, accustomed to "permanent" notifications).
Camera start-up - nothing to do about that unless Xiaomi updates the firmware to do so. GCam takes even more to start, but the image it produces is more than worth the wait.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry

I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.

As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try

Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs

EclipseGST20 said:
Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.

You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet

Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel

ZayaanAhyaan said:
No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...

That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.

Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.

I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one

villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.

Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera

Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.

Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.

new update to camera today

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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.

OnePlus 8 pro vs pixel 4 xl

Anyone here coming from a pixel 4 xl?
I'm between those 2 devices and I live in Europe. I currently own a pixel 2xl and I'm pretty happy with the pixel experience so far.
For me, the pros of the pixel 4 are the camera obviously , the flat screen and the price (less than 650€ on Amazon)
Pros of the 8 pro are more modern hardware , more versatile camera , better battery and much higher brightness screen.
If someone has owned or used both can give me an opinion? Does the extra cost of 8 pro is justified?

arvylas said:
Anyone here coming from a pixel 4 xl?
I'm between those 2 devices and I live in Europe. I currently own a pixel 2xl and I'm pretty happy with the pixel experience so far.
For me, the pros of the pixel 4 are the camera obviously , the flat screen and the price (less than 650€ on Amazon)
Pros of the 8 pro are more modern hardware , more versatile camera , better battery and much higher brightness screen.
If someone has owned or used both can give me an opinion? Does the extra cost of 8 pro is justified?
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Real pros from the 8 pro to be honest is better battery and better looking ..( and brighter screen)
Otherwise Pixel...

Forgot to mention that I'm not a gamer so I'm not chasing the latest and fastest hardware.
Dual SIM is also something useful for me and I'm not really sure how well pixel manages that with the e-sim.

arvylas said:
Forgot to mention that I'm not a gamer so I'm not chasing the latest and fastest hardware.
Dual SIM is also something useful for me and I'm not really sure how well pixel manages that with the e-sim.
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I've had both. I was surprised how good the 8 pro was, this is my first oneplus device. The fingerprint scanner and face scanner are very fast. The face scanner is instantaneous. The display is beautiful and very bright, and 120hz is just smooth as lighting. The speakers are very good and loud and connecting to Bluetooth is flawless. The phone is very fast with the 865. The battery lasts all day for me, which none of my other phones really ever have. The cameras are pretty damn good. I'm definitely keeping this phone, I (unfortunately) returned the p4xl.

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I've had both. I was surprised how good the 8 pro was, this is my first oneplus device. The fingerprint scanner and face scanner are very fast. The face scanner is instantaneous. The display is beautiful and very bright, and 120hz is just smooth as lighting. The speakers are very good and loud and connecting to Bluetooth is flawless. The phone is very fast with the 865. The battery lasts all day for me, which none of my other phones really ever have. The cameras are pretty damn good. I'm definitely keeping this phone, I (unfortunately) returned the p4xl.
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Thanks for your views.
Could you also let us know about the haptic motor feedback on OP8PRO in comparison to Pixel?
I have the pixel 3 and its vibration motor feedback is fantastic.
Thanks

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Thanks for your views.
Could you also let us know about the haptic motor feedback on OP8PRO in comparison to Pixel?
I have the pixel 3 and its vibration motor feedback is fantastic.
Thanks
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Obviously I don't have either but I think pixel and op are the only Android manufacturers that give attention to haptic feedback and even on the 7 that I have tried is really good. Better than my p2xl.

I had the Pixel4XL and now the OnePlus 8Pro ghere are my opinion:
positive points of the OnePlus 8 Pro:
"unsafe" unlock via the camera works instant, I had to hold the pixel often at an "extra" angle to unlock it
Finance and other critical apps are extra unlocked by the fingerprint
extremely smooth in the handling and the display is nearly perfect
well optimized Android-OS
Fingerprint Sensor
again screen is fantastic
phone design
positive points of the Pixel 4 XL advantages:
Android Updates instant
Camera is probably better, but for my trip and holiday photos the OnePlus 8 Pro is more than great, to be honest I don't see much difference
in very dark rooms the colour image is better / grey problems

itchy67x said:
I had the Pixel4XL and now the OnePlus 8Pro ghere are my opinion:
positive points of the OnePlus 8 Pro:
"unsafe" unlock via the camera works instant, I had to hold the pixel often at an "extra" angle to unlock it
Finance and other critical apps are extra unlocked by the fingerprint
extremely smooth in the handling and the display is nearly perfect
well optimized Android-OS
Fingerprint Sensor
again screen is fantastic
phone design
positive points of the Pixel 4 XL advantages:
Android Updates instant
Camera is probably better, but for my trip and holiday photos the OnePlus 8 Pro is more than great, to be honest I don't see much difference
in very dark rooms the colour image is better / grey problems
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Hi, thanks for the comparison. In your last point do you mean the camera in dark room or the screen? Does the 8 pro screen have issues with low brightness?
What do you think about the battery life of the 2? Is it significant better in 8 pro? Thanks again

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Hi, thanks for the comparison. In your last point do you mean the camera in dark room or the screen? Does the 8 pro screen have issues with low brightness?
What do you think about the battery life of the 2? Is it significant better in 8 pro? Thanks again
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In very dark environment the screen has issues, but if I hadn't read about them I wouldn't probably recognize them
The battery life (in my case with 2 sims) in the OnePlus 8 Pro is much better.

I sold my 4xl to get a oneplus 8 pro and the 8 pro is better in just about every way.
The display is the best ever. It's fast and smooth. It looks and feels better (ok, my opinion). Battery is definitely better. Brightness is crazy good. I can actually see it in sunlight. Not so much with the 4xl.
The 4xl camera is better, but not by much and only certain aspects are better.
Video is better on the 8 pro and I've been loving the wide angle lens which isn't on the 4xl. And the macro is great too..
Regular point and shoot I give to the 4xl but it's close enough not to really matter.
If you're ok with the money, run to the 8 pro. It's an outstanding phone.
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Anyone here coming from a pixel 4 xl?
I'm between those 2 devices and I live in Europe. I currently own a pixel 2xl and I'm pretty happy with the pixel experience so far.
For me, the pros of the pixel 4 are the camera obviously , the flat screen and the price (less than 650€ on Amazon)
Pros of the 8 pro are more modern hardware , more versatile camera , better battery and much higher brightness screen.
If someone has owned or used both can give me an opinion? Does the extra cost of 8 pro is justified?
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bkrickles said:
I sold my 4xl to get a oneplus 8 pro and the 8 pro is better in just about every way.
The display is the best ever. It's fast and smooth. It looks and feels better (ok, my opinion). Battery is definitely better. Brightness is crazy good. I can actually see it in sunlight. Not so much with the 4xl.
The 4xl camera is better, but not by much and only certain aspects are better.
Video is better on the 8 pro and I've been loving the wide angle lens which isn't on the 4xl. And the macro is great too..
Regular point and shoot I give to the 4xl but it's close enough not to really matter.
If you're ok with the money, run to the 8 pro. It's an outstanding phone.
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For me it is the best phone after the Pixel 2XL at that time.
PS. I use it as my private and work phone