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Its great now ..Only if we had these hardware options This would be The Best device f

Bump the 5x to 64g storage and or expandable SD slot 1 more gig of ram and a f1.7 apature camera with possibly samsungs dual pixel technology and amoled display and I'd keep this phone for 2 years maybe more .
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You need to look for comparisons nexus 5x vs samsung galaxy s6 or s7. The nexus camera is somewhere inbetween them but def better than galaxy s6 (i owned s6 previously)

I agree that the 5x camera produced better images than the s6. Pictures from the s6 turned out yellow a lot of the times when shooting indoors.

joemanbui said:
I agree that the 5x camera produced better images than the s6. Pictures from the s6 turned out yellow a lot of the times when shooting indoors.
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In Android Authority's review of the Galaxy S7, Joshua said that his Nexus 6p produced better quality images in low light than the Galaxy S7 (6p and 5x have both the very same camera).

Silvers91 said:
In Android Authority's review of the Galaxy S7, Joshua said that his Nexus 6p produced better quality images in low light than the Galaxy S7 (6p and 5x have both the very same camera).
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Nice to hear thx for the input. I love this camera

I've got Nexus 5X, my friend has S6.
We did some camera tests, and came to the same conclusion about which is better:
It depends. Some of the daylight shots looked brighter on S6, but with less saturated colours. Nexus likes darkness and vivid colours, which tickles my fancy more intensively than S6's shooting style does. On the other hand, low-light shots looked better on S6 just because it has OIS.
IMO, Nexus'es camera is as good as S6's, but the superiority of development on 5X floors S6 as a potential competition.

-woczarder- said:
I've got Nexus 5X, my friend has S6.
We did some camera tests, and came to the same conclusion about which is better:
It depends. Some of the daylight shots looked brighter on S6, but with less saturated colours. Nexus likes darkness and vivid colours, which tickles my fancy more intensively than S6's shooting style does. On the other hand, low-light shots looked better on S6 just because it has OIS.
IMO, Nexus'es camera is as good as S6's, but the superiority of development on 5X floors S6 as a potential competition.
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I've heard from people who do photo editing that the darker images are more desired because it's easier to brighten them up after and retain colour information.
However pictures that are taken bright as is the case with most smartphone cameras, will lose more information that can't be recovered afterwards.
Basically they say the 5x camera acts like a normal camera instead of a smartphone camera. Where as smartphone cameras are usually designed to have the picture look good right away on the phone's screen so brighter images are desired even if it means less accurate colours.

Xiaomi Mi 5S Plus - 6GB RAM, Triple Cameras

Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?

If a decent developer community forms and this gets the ability to work on Verizon then I'm sold. But I have to hold out hopes that the Mi5 progress keeps advancing and can easily translate to this device.

toffzter said:
Hello! Xiaomi Mi5s Plus was launched recently and here are the features: 5.7-inch FHD Screen, Snapdragon 821 CPU, 6GB RAM, and Triple cameras with two rear cameras (source: http://www.chinaphonereview.com/xiaomi-mi5s-plus).
The dual rear cameras is a unique characteristic in which it features a 13MP colored camera and a 13MP black & white camera. I'm not sure how this would translate. But I'm certain the 6GB RAM and Snapdragon 821 processor would definitely provide an excellent performance.
Any thoughts on this smartphone?
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Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.

jlmcr87 said:
Be careful, the mi5s plus cameras are old sony imx258 and not the new imx378 on the mi5s. Also the mi5s plus lacks of ultrasonic fingerprint sensor.
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Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.

Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?

Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.

hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!

strifej said:
Yah, they gimped the plus so much.. if you like larger phones, neither are good buys. If the plus had 2 x imx378 and ultrasonic, best phone in the world easily, by hardware.
The pixel phones use the imx378, I believe, and the pixel is rated best camera phone by DxO (take with grain of salt as they're apparently biased), but it still shows the prowess of the imx378.
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Well, sadly enough that the imx378's sensor is large and I assumed that is why the dual camera setup with that sensor is not achievable.
Same goes to OIS, most probably due to sensor size issues. (Pixel phones have no OIS thou)
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hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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Where did you ordered from?
Well, just wait for developers to get their hands on the device~
Device is just too new

hkd said:
Just got this phone today.
It is amazing fast, super high performance.
With default setup, it can have 4G RAM free
However, it only have chinese stock rom at this moment.
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So how is your experience with Xiaomi Mi5s?

toffzter said:
Would the dual rear cameras make any difference in terms of picture quality? How can the additional black & white camera help?
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From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.

gnazio said:
From what I've read, but I'm not an expert, the B&W camera should be capable of capturing more light.
So combining images from both cameras it should capture better pictures on low light conditions.
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So I guess it will result to much clearer pictures and lesser noise compared to the single color camera. That's nice. :good:

EMJI79 said:
No way to tune camera shots focus after the take like on the Redmi Pro?
I so much want this feature!
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Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS

Xziting said:
Now it can do like Redmi Pro with global dev rom 6.12.8 and FreeDcam application can turn on EIS
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You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]

EMJI79 said:
You mean it can do bokeh effect? [emoji3]
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Yep it can do bokeh effect

Wow great! [emoji1]
I saw a screenshot on eu.miui.
Would have bought it if it were sold with that when it came out. Now I have bought a Sony. Probably will wait for the Mi Note Pro 2.

Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?

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Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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I have it and for me there's 2 things that I don't like. MIUI 8 , I'm a stock Android guy I hope somebody bring cm or something like this to this mobile and the other thing it's the camera, it's a camera for me from the beginning of 2015, that perform well in optimal light conditions and in low light even with the stereo option it's not very well.
Conclusion, I'm not a photo guy so there's no problem but I can't support miui even that it runs fast in this mobile. So until we have some development to this mobile I'm going to stay whit my axon 7.
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EMJI79 said:
Maybe some would want to post photo samples​ with the latest ROM?
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Optimal light conditions interior and low light outside
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Don't you like taking photos during daylight?

Yes I do , but almost every 2105/2016 phone does nice or ok photos in daylight.
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Mate 9 Pro vs S7 edge

Fellow XDA members check out my video comparison of the Huawei Mate 9 Pro and the Samsung galaxy s7 edge, you will be surprised, Mod Edit

Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?

Since we're discussing the Mate 9 as well (vs Mate 9 Pro), i'll re-add the comments i previously deleted. Chose the Mate 9 over S7E due to (a) battery life, (b) preference for flat (or much less of a curved) screen and (c) big screen with good form factor. S7E served me well for 8 months. I'm not a fan of the S7E's curved screen, but the Note 7 curved screen was doable. With the Note 7 "evaporating" from the smartphone scene, (for me) there were no viable alternatives until i saw/fondled the Mate 9. i've made a few compromises to use the Mate 9 (vs the S7E) such as opting for the FHD vs QHD screen, better camera on S7E, etc. (for me) Mate 9 offers best form/function capabilities, camera will support my use/needs and the compromises i've accepted (in my opinion) are not show stoppers. did i mention that, with the addition of an active stylus, i can manage my Note 7 withdrawal symptoms until the international version of the Note 8 is available? finally, i cut the cord with my S7E when i gave it to my wife as her "yearly" upgrade until the S8 is available for her.

ramheer said:
Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
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I don't. I couldn't be more satisfied with my M9.

ramheer said:
Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
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Nope. Sold my S7E for Mate 9 and never looked back. Mate 9 is superior against S7 family in every way, except one. Waterproof.
Mate 9 camera is just awesome.

sobelixtus said:
Nope. Sold my S7E for Mate 9 and never looked back. Mate 9 is superior against S7 family in every way, except one. Waterproof.
Mate 9 camera is just awesome.
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No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations

albertobom said:
I don't. I couldn't be more satisfied with my M9.
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What do you think of the Mate 9 pro?

ramheer said:
What do you think of the Mate 9 pro?
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Well I own the Mate 9 normal because I like the design the best. But I think you wouldn't be missing nothing if you choose it instead of s7

ramheer said:
No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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In good and "normal" light Mate has much better dynamics and colors are more natural. I don't like how much S7 is sharpening the pictures and you can see it by zooming the picture.
In really dark situations S7 takes better pictures (f1.7 is able to gather more light than f2.2) but Mate's monochrome sensor gives additional boost to Mate. So in overall I would rate Mate and S7 pictures pretty close, but slight edge on S7 side in dark.
But Mate camera is more capable with all different modes (Leica colors, light trails, monochrome sensor etc.) so in overall Mate is better in camera area.
This is my personal opinion and I have used S7 Edge 6 months before buying Mate.

sobelixtus said:
In good and "normal" light Mate has much better dynamics and colors are more natural. I don't like how much S7 is sharpening the pictures and you can see it by zooming the picture.
In really dark situations S7 takes better pictures (f1.7 is able to gather more light than f2.2) but Mate's monochrome sensor gives additional boost to Mate. So in overall I would rate Mate and S7 pictures pretty close, but slight edge on S7 side in dark.
But Mate camera is more capable with all different modes (Leica colors, light trails, monochrome sensor etc.) so in overall Mate is better in camera area.
This is my personal opinion and I have used S7 Edge 6 months before buying Mate.
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See I would agree but then I did a side by side comparison and was surprised how poor the Mate 9 is in dark situations, I will have to look into further

ramheer said:
See I would agree but then I did a side by side comparison and was surprised how poor the Mate 9 is in dark situations, I will have to look into further
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I have noticed that it depends of the darkness. In really dark situations, without any light, S7 Edge is superior against Mate. But then again, I don't usually take that kind of shots with my phone.
Mate 9 starts to shine if there is some kind of a light source in picture

sobelixtus said:
I have noticed that it depends of the darkness. In really dark situations, without any light, S7 Edge is superior against Mate. But then again, I don't usually take that kind of shots with my phone.
Mate 9 starts to shine if there is some kind of a light source in picture
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I like the Mate 9 camera, it is very good, it just depends on how someone personally uses it and what situations

Beside low light, I think laser focus is still inconsistent & slow compare with S7 dual pixel focus.. It makes alot difference when capturing kids..

with root i can uc and uv? the mate 9?

firefox1991 said:
with root i can uc and uv? the mate 9?
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There are not custom kernels yet.

so what it the meaning to root XD, only to greenify? or tasker?

Both take sh**ty pictures in low light, even if one is slightly better than the other, its still sh**ty. But I digress, I switched from S7E to Mate 9 purely because apps launch quicker, longer battery life, Leica optics, flat screen, and that super charge tho!

Just bought mate 9 to replace s7e, gonna miss the awesome dac and ip68 rating as well as dual pixel focus but the m9 is much better in terms of speed, battery big beautiful IPS screen, slightly better camera in normal light, crazy fast and doesn't throttle on gaming due to no DVFS like in sammy phones....
Still evaluating the M9, but it seems a big keeper, now as for DAC it serves mine Sennihizer Momentum HP well.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good usb DAC?

ramheer said:
No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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Agree but either way those good low light pictures are not that great

Got a burned pixel on my s7E after just 2 months, switched to Mate 9 pro. I was already impressed by the P9 but the LON exceeded my expectations, the Leica is sublime, the design is way more better than that of the S7E. Graphic performance are less impressive but there's a feeling of strength combined to the smooth and fluidity that makes the Huwaei machine better in my opinion. Sound output and battery life are also better on my LON.

Which CameraPhone is better than Galaxy S7 Edge?

Hi guys
I am actually disappointed with camera results of S7 edge especially in day lights where photos are either too bright or over/under exposed and often lack details when zoom in. I always use Auto mode so can this problem be solved with pro mdoe by changing different setting? I think even s6 or previous nexus 5X took better day lights pics than S7 and I think camera of s7 edge is overrated especially for still photography. It may lead in night low light photography . I have not used google pixel, s8, LG G6, P10 and IPhone 7 plus.. Are they any better? I don't care about night photography but want best picture in daylight especially for scenery, beaches, portraits
Share your opinion and how can I improve the daylight photography with this camera as I like everything else about this phone
cheers

Well, the Google Pixel has a better camera, check out some video comparisons on YouTube.

If you don't mind the lense flare...
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Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry

I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.

As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try

Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs

EclipseGST20 said:
Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.

You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet

Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel

ZayaanAhyaan said:
No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...

That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.

Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.

I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one

villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.

Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera

Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.

Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.

new update to camera today

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.