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Debate... I'm not sure what to get HONOR 8 or AXON 7.... be objective pls

Help me decide!!!
HONOR CONS/PROS
+Great Deal - 399 + 50 Gift Card + Case + JBL BT Headset
+Great Camera
+Better CPU
+Faster Finger Print Reader
-Less Storage
-Less Resolution
-Smaller Screen

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Well, take a look at this. The Honor 8 with the Kirin 950 scores around 89k on Antutu. That's not even visible on this chart vs the Axon 7.
Camera is definitely better than Axon 7.
Audio, Axon 7 no contest.
The size, it's a preference. I prefer bigger screen with Android 7 Nouget the multiscreen favors bigger displays.
As for price, I don't like all these giveways. Just make the device $299 without giveaways please.

Asking in this forum, where we're all waiting for the Honor 8 seems a bit silly, hardly an unbiased opinion to be seen

chpimentelpr said:
Help me decide!!!
HONOR CONS/PROS
+Great Deal - 399 + 50 Gift Card + Case + JBL BT Headset
+Great Camera
+Better CPU
+Faster Finger Print Reader
-Less Storage
-Less Resolution
-Smaller Screen
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The CPU might be better, but the GPU on the Honor 8 is significantly worse.

Right, but there's no better place to get real feedback from real axon users. ? I order mine from Newegg... Will need to wait a bit to received it. Thanks all for the feedback is well appreciated.

chpimentelpr said:
Right, but there's no better place to get real feedback from real axon users. �� I order mine from Newegg... Will need to wait a bit to received it. Thanks all for the feedback is well appreciated.
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But the one thing you do need to remember is that the feedback is from all over the world. There seems to be some differences in software from region to region.
This has led to mixed reviews.
Personally, I have the Chinese 4gb, 128gb Axon 7. It works fine and things that the US users complain about the software seems to work fine on mine. I seem to have a few extra options that they don't but then again they can unlock the bootloader.
Now that I can get root access it is a bit better but is still locked down. I do worry that the next OTA to improve the software and fix bugs will, of course, loose me root....

This may give you some insight.
https://youtu.be/y0fHGJY-vFE
For me it's the Axon 7. I like the bigger res screen, the upcoming daydream compatibility and superior audio and non-Apple like OS.
The Honor 8 dies seem to have a better camera, but I can live with that. Plus I have an LG G5 for when I want photos.
You just have to decide which features are more important to you.

chpimentelpr said:
Help me decide!!!
HONOR CONS/PROS
+Great Deal - 399 + 50 Gift Card + Case + JBL BT Headset
+Great Camera
+Better CPU
+Faster Finger Print Reader
-Less Storage
-Less Resolution
-Smaller Screen
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I had Honor 7 with the same SoC and I can tell you that it is really good enough, fast, no heating, good battery. And so is SD820 of Axon 7. Huawei has promised 2 years full support and upgrade for new phones and the new EMUI 5 wil be allegedly more close to stock. And even now you have third party themes which change that ugly apple look of Huawei phones.
But I'm still on for Axon 7. The fact is that everything but camera is better. Display, audio, design, rooting option... Even for camera you can't really tell that Honor's is better. It's dual but there is no Leica behind it as for P9.
As I see from my past experience, the software of Honor 8 will work without any issues and this is the only real advantage of Honor. I still have confidence in ZTE, I believe that it will solve software issues soon. Otherwise I would rather wait for Mate 9, which really supposed to be a killer phone.

It doesn't have a better CPU. The GPU on the Honor 8 is worse. The Honor 8 is going to be dead as far as development goes. The screen is worse, the audio is definitely going to be sub par. How fast does a finger print scanner really need to be? From what I can see it's USB C but at 2.0 speeds unlike the Axon which is USB C 3.0. The Honor 8 doesn't have Gorilla Glass. Also one of the biggest negatives for me is that it doesn't have Quick Charge 3.0. It has quick charging but it doesn't use the quick charge standard. It uses something called Smart Power 4.0 and after a Google search only thing I can find is something from Elgato and I don't think that's it so it's most likely proprietary.
In my view being the same exact price I don't see a single reason to go with the Honor 8. It has like nothing going for it over the Axon 7 except the camera. If the camera is that important to you then go for it but aren't there better options in the camera department anyway?

Kinda a silly question to ask since I doubt any users here own both phones.
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What's more important to you as a user? Better camera = Honor 8. Better sound = Axon 7.
I"m pretty pleased with my Axon 7 so far. It's great for music and games, for example.

max1001 said:
Kinda a silly question to ask since I doubt any users here own both phones.
Sent from my ZTE A2017U using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Your comment is silly... and not productive at all... I just want hear feedback. Thanks all for the inpt well appritiated.

chpimentelpr said:
Help me decide!!!
HONOR CONS/PROS
+Great Deal - 399 + 50 Gift Card + Case + JBL BT Headset
+Great Camera
+Better CPU
+Faster Finger Print Reader
-Less Storage
-Less Resolution
-Smaller Screen
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This is something more of a personal preference. The Honor 8 is undeniably a beautiful phone. So if the glass look is something you prefer, go for it. With that said, it has a lower resolution LCD screen, a weaker GPU and CPU. The Kirin 950 is NO match for the Snapdragon 820 with Adreno 530. The Snapdragon is a better CPU scoring higher performance on Geekbench per core (around 2300 single core). The only reason the Kirin appears to score higher on the multicore is because it is an octacore (8 vs 4). It also has less on board storage at the base price (32GB vs 64GB). These are minor differences that come down to personal preference.
If a larger, superior screen with better sound matter to you, the Axon 7 is a no brainer. Huawei is more developer friendly though. The Honor 8 also has a superior camera, although I believe that the Axon 7 is an update away from having a really good camera. My personal preference would be the Axon 7 for the metal unibody design and superior specs.

chpimentelpr said:
Help me decide!!!
HONOR CONS/PROS
+Great Deal - 399 + 50 Gift Card + Case + JBL BT Headset
+Great Camera
+Better CPU
+Faster Finger Print Reader
-Less Storage
-Less Resolution
-Smaller Screen
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OK, so this is interesting. I am so tired of when it comes time for me to buy a phone that I only have the time in the store or reading reviews to decide what I want to buy. Now that I'm older and can afford the hit on my credit card, I went out and bought both the Honor 8 and Axon 7 to have side by side for a week to see what I'd like more. I'll return the one I don't like.
Background - I travel for a living.. usually 4-6 hops (flights) a week. Always on the go. My biggest frustrations are: bad sound quality, bad camera quality and bad performance. Up until early last year I always had those problems. The LG V10 came out and solved all that. Absolutely amazing camera (see below), unbelievable sound quality (again see below) and performance was the best you could get (at that time).
Sound - I'm using my LG V10 as a benchmark to compare. I carry two sets of headphones. Westone W4r's (4 driver IEM's) and a pair of B&O H6 over ears. As everyone knows, the V10 has two DACs. One is the SOC DAC (Snapdragon 808) that's just average. Then there's the ESS DAC (that you can switch on the fly). But one real neat feature that no phone has ever had (other than the V20) is gain adjustment. Actual hardware gain. Meaning, if you use a short pigtail (male 3.5mm to female 3.5mm) and plug that in first, then plug your headphones in, you get a significant boost in gain to support higher impedance headphones. That being said, I will be using only the ESS DAC audio out for this section. The Honor 8 does a respectable job. I'm impressed with the volume, but nowhere near the high impedance mode of the V10. I would need to always carry my Fiio E6 headphone amp for traveling in flight. The ZTE Axon 7 seemed to have a lot of crosstalk.. meaning the sound stage seemed narrow. The volume output as nominal, but nothing to write home about. Again, I'd have to carry the Fiio E6. If you ask me why I don't talk about equalization or bass/treble response of the phones, is because this is subjective. Anyone can install an app like Neutron, PowerAmp or even a root app like Viper4Android to modify that. My last comment will be on the noise floor. It's breathtakingly low on the ESS of the V10. It's very low on the Honor 8, and it's a little higher with the AKG DAC on the Axon 7. Particularly with high dynamic tracks coming from artists like Orbital, Bob Moses, Autchre and the likes. I just wasn't as impressed with the noise floor as I was on the V10. Most reviews like you'll see in gsmarena state what I just said with numbers, and it shows.
Camera - There's simply nothing I can complain about on the V10. All cameras were tested hand held in auto mode (because.. 90% of the time you take these photos while you're moving, not with a 4' tripod and a chair to capture the perfect moment). I sit at my desk and took a photo across a dim lit room of my wife's desk chair. You can see the stitching in the leather edges. Camera did a great job of keeping noise to a minimum. With the Honor 8, the stitching is nearly gone. The ZTE, it's not even visible. In daylight pictures, the Honor 8 rivals the V10's camera as far as sharpness goes. The ZTE did an ok job as well, and sharpness was right up there. Maybe a touch more crisp. Color reproduction, the V10 seems dull and I find myself using Adobe Photoshop Express in Android correcting this. I never had an issue on the Honor 8. The ZTE, things were actually too vivid and over saturated. Response time (for shutter) is only average for the V10. The Honor 8 was a bit more speedy, and the ZTE was VERY quick. Night shots turned that around 180 degrees. The V10 takes AMAZING PHOTOS at night. (This is probably why they put the same sensor in the LG G5). It's quick to focus and just astounding in the detail it can pick up. The Honor 8 was more of an 'average' smartphone experience when it comes to night shot shutter speeds. The ZTE always had problems focusing on whatever you'd select. Therefore, the time to take a photo was much longer with this phone.
Performance - No one actually ever says anything about the day to day use of your phone. How often they have to clear their apps, how long they can go before things start bogging down, or for guys like me that juggle a lot of apps while on the go, while always checking for my bulging wallet that carries my spare battery for my V10. I usually have these apps open on a normal travel day: Hangouts, Delta, IHG, National Car, Google Keep, Google Maps (With location on, wifi off), music player (typically stock - I used to use Shuttle+, but it has issues with the latest update) (with Bluetooth on - to connect to my rental), Viper4Android, Chrome with 4-10 tabs open, the stock Camera and mobile hotspot (with the limit turned off so it's always on - if you turn the beacon feature off so the SSID is hidden, the power draw while it stays on is negligible when you consider the fact that as soon as you open your laptop it connects instantly). Those are my go to apps and the ones I switch back and forth to hundreds of times per day. With the V10, there are times when the navigation buttons literally get 'stuck' on the screen and I have to do this shuffle of power cycling the screen and fingerprint scans before the phone comes to life, which ultimately forces me to do a battery pull. The Honor 8 was snappy. Never had those issues at all in the week I had it. In fact, it seemed like app switching was just as fast as any other flagship you'd expect. If you don't do any gaming (and I don't) then the GPU 'rating' on Antutu and any other benchmark means absolutely nothing to this phone. On the ZTE, everything was stellar. Simply an unbeatable combination of top notch cpu performance and gpu (no lag with the gui - not even a stutter that you could visually see). I've done two factory resets with the V10 and the facts remain.. if I put those core apps back on and use them, I eventually have these problems again in a matter of days.
Battery Life - With the V10, I use my phone a lot. Wifi is always off, GPS always on, BT always on, Screen usually around 50-75% and I only clear my apps 1-2 times per day. With the same core apps installed, my V10 gets me through about 6 hours before it's dead. I usually charge 2-3 times per day. Once a week I'll swap with the battery in my wallet to keep both of them equally charged. With the Honor 8 I was blown away by the ability of this phone's multitasking, background battery drain and how well it made it. With the ZTE I was also impressed, but it sure wasn't twice the battery life than the Honor 8. I tell you what, I looked like a damn fool carrying around all three phones always doing the same thing on all three, but honestly, it's the only way to tell. With that being said, the V10 and it's 3,000mah battery lasted me 6 hours, the Honor 8's 3000mah battery was just shy of 8 hours (how ironic) and the ZTE's 3250mah lasted me about 9 hours.
With ALL this being said, you can clearly see why I'm trying to upgrade. Most of you would probably say "well if you like your V10 so much, why don't you just go get a V20??".... and you'd be right. But I HATE the size of the V10. Way too big for a phone and I have large hands (I can palm a basketball). I LOVE the size of the Honor 8. It's all about personal preference. I'm also being forced to upgrade because the Snapdragon 808 in the V10 can't keep up with me anymore.
Pricing - Right now you can buy a LG V10 around $250 as a benchmark. As of this posting, Best Buy has the Honor 8 on sale for $299, which is $100 off the normal price. Plus, they give you a case for free made direct by Huawei, and the case is actually very nice because you can still see the beautiful blue back and buttons work great. The ZTE Axon 7 is on sale at Fry's Electronics for $349 which is $50 off the normal asking price of $399. The LG V20 is $749 at places that even stock the phone, and it's so ridiculously priced that I can't justify it. I am honestly torn and have no idea what I should do. I spent all this time writing this post and I just get more frustrated each time. I eventually returned both the Honor 8 and ZTE thinking that I'd give the Oneplus 3T a shot, but after all the horrible reviews of their customer service and how they've been out of stock for over a month now, I've completely written them off. It's not a flagship killer if you can't even buy the damn thing. Why can't they make a phone with the same or better camera than the V10 (particularly in low light performance), as good or better audio gain as the V10's high impedance mode (because seriously, why limit the voltage out so much????), and have great performance in line with flagships? There is always a catch - if you look hard enough. My opinion the Achilles heel for the V10 is performance, the Honor 8 is volume gain and the ZTE's is low light camera performance. You need to decide what you can live without, aside from the physical dimensions.
My review here didn't help me, but I'm hoping it helps you. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask and I'll do my best.

Like many said, I prefer the Axon 7 by far. Superior screen, superior audio, superior CPU/GPU, and most important, QC 3.0 <-- this is really a GREAT advantage. Charges fully the phone in 45mins or less.

Between those two, I would go with the Axon 7. With that being said, after owning the Axon 7 for 3 months now, I wish I would have went with the oneplus 3. I would be giving up some resolution but it would be worth it for the dev. options. Development is a little slow going on the Axon 7.

OnePlus has a proprietary charger as well, like the H8 and that suxx... QuickCharge is available for all the SnapDragon CPUs, and it's really great, so why aren't they using it? I have 3 wall chargers already, one at home, one at work and one in my bag in case, knowing I can recharge my phone in 40 mins, or any other device without worrying if it's compatible or not...

Don't do it bruh. Am using op3 and finds it too simple.. doesn't feel a flagship fone other than speedy os. Display u ll get hatred of it. Audio department especially from 3.5 mm jack is worst I have heard, too flattened and low output.
You will feel iritated of using OnePlus 3 after few months
After spending 400 dollars you will feel what I actually paid for a plain blunt subtle fone that doesn't wows you in any area

ben cherian said:
Don't do it bruh. Am using op3 and finds it too simple.. doesn't feel a flagship fone other than speedy os. Display u ll get hatred of it. Audio department especially from 3.5 mm jack is worst I have heard, too flattened and low output.
You will feel iritated of using OnePlus 3 after few months
After spending 400 dollars you will feel what I actually paid for a plain blunt subtle fone that doesn't wows you in any area
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Dat 5-month bump tho

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Dat 5-month bump tho
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Well did you take then OnePlus 3 ?
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azpatterson3 said:
Between those two, I would go with the Axon 7. With that being said, after owning the Axon 7 for 3 months now, I wish I would have went with the oneplus 3. I would be giving up some resolution but it would be worth it for the dev. options. Development is a little slow going on the Axon 7.
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Did you take OnePlus 3?

S7 vs G4

It's been troubling my mind for a while, so I'll say it here. S7 feels kind of disappointing. Why kind of? Because it's a great phone, but with a lot of nuisances.
I upgraded (or moved) from LG G4 after hardware failure and my first impressions are rather luke warm. Let's split it into categories:
Design:
This is where S7 absolutely smashes G4 to pieces. S7 is really beautiful (although M7 is still my favourite) and G4 is, well, it tries, but is still ugly.
Ergonomy:
I love the smaller display, but the phone itself doesnt seem as ergonomic as G4. The rear buttons on G4 are great. Once I got used to them, I really miss them even after a month with S7. Also typing while lying is uncomfortable, which is something I never experienced with G4, but I really like having hardware buttons on S7.
Performance:
This one is a little sketchy. Although the phone doesnt freeze and switches apps really fast, the whole experience is not that excellent. Sometimes the display doesnt seem as responsive as it should (especially compared to Apple's exagerrated sensitivity) and the Briefing thing is just garbage. It lags and stutters every time you swipe from home screen to Briefing. This is not acceptable on any flagship in 2016. HTC had similar thing called BlinkFeed and it never, and I really mean it, never lagged. The whole phone just seemed more responsive. Even compared to G4.
Other than that, this phone is really fast.
Camera:
The camera is a mixed bag as well. On one hand, you get the amazing autofocus and almost instant camera launch, but on the other hand you get only 12 MPx and aggressive software sharpening. Don't get me wrong, 12MPx is plenty enough unless you want to zoom and see the details, plus shots in low light seem not that great. It just somehow feel like the camera isn't even an upgrade over G4, especially in low light. Haven't tried RAW capture, though. The pictures are usually great, but the upgrade over G4 seems very minor if there's some. Of course, this is all subjective and if I had G4 with me now, the S7 would probably win 3 out of 4 shots.
Front camera is worse though. The camera cannot focus on the whole picture and the edges are usually blurry, despite having subjects that are in the same distance from the lens as the subject in focus. Plus G4 had 8MPx, while S7 has only 5. Yeah, I know, there are more important things than resolution, but G4's front camera just felt better.
Overall quality:
Samsung should really work on quality control. Even if we say that Note's faulty batteries are not directly Samsung's fault, design of S7 is. I had mine 2 days. I repeat, 2 days, when it got stuck at boot. What was the problem? Motherboard. On a brand new phone that's never been dropped. And I was not alone, according to people on the Internet. The thing that bothers me is, if you cannot compete with Apple's build quality and customer care, don't compete so close to their price level. Yeah, I know. Samsung offers much more in terms of hardware at lower price than Apple, but in real life, you scarcely know the difference and the quality is just not there yet.
Other thing is wifi signal strength. With my plastic G4, I had good enough wifi signal in my bed, with S7 I can't usually even see the network. Same goes for other parts of house. G4 could connect everywhere, while I can only wish for that in S7.
Okay, to be fair. I really like this phone, but I was disappointed that it didn't feel like an upgrade over older and much cheaper phone.
What are your opinions on this? Anyone feels similarly, or did I just expect too much?

rs70 said:
It's been troubling my mind for a while, so I'll say it here. S7 feels kind of disappointing. Why kind of? Because it's a great phone, but with a lot of nuisances.
I upgraded (or moved) from LG G4 after hardware failure and my first impressions are rather luke warm. Let's split it into categories:
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I did the same switch a couple of weeks ago and it feels like a whole different world! The G4 wasn’t bad, and I had no bootloop problems like many others but the speed of the S7 is amazing! I can’t detect a SINGLE stutter and the gaming speed is out of this world, like always buttery smooth. The Snapdragon 808 of the G4 was no speed monster!
The display is really the biggest reason for the switch as I see it. There is no way I am going back to lcd now that I know that black can really be BLACK with amoled and not gray as with lcd. The white has a better clean look to it also. Over all it’s just like candy for your eyes!
The camera on the G4 is on the other hand in some ways better than the S7, mostly in low light situations. But the speed of the S7 camera, both start and focus, beats the G4 by miles. I think that the daylight photos in most cases looks better with the S7 to.
Here in Sweden the performance of the S7 with mobile network both LTE and WCDMA is just as good as the G4 if not better. I have the exact same coverage with my WiFi connections as I had with the G4.
And it’s the Exynos version as I live in Europe.

gerhard_wa said:
I did the same switch a couple of weeks ago and it feels like a whole different world! The G4 wasn’t bad, and I had no bootloop problems like many others but the speed of the S7 is amazing! I can’t detect a SINGLE stutter and the gaming speed is out of this world, like always buttery smooth. The Snapdragon 808 of the G4 was no speed monster!
The display is really the biggest reason for the switch as I see it. There is no way I am going back to lcd now that I know that black can really be BLACK with amoled and not gray as with lcd. The white has a better clean look to it also. Over all it’s just like candy for your eyes!
The camera on the G4 is on the other hand in some ways better than the S7, mostly in low light situations. But the speed of the S7 camera, both start and focus, beats the G4 by miles. I think that the daylight photos in most cases looks better with the S7 to.
Here in Sweden the performance of the S7 with mobile network both LTE and WCDMA is just as good as the G4 if not better. I have the exact same coverage with my WiFi connections as I had with the G4.
And it’s the Exynos version as I live in Europe.
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The stutters and delay are most obvious on homescreen when you try to swipe to the Briefing screen. I'm not saying the phone is not fast, but it just doesn't feel as smooth as, let's say an iPhone. Plus the delay when you press home button is a little annoying (if you disable double press for camera launch, it reacts immediately, but it's not worth the convenience of quick camera launch). Yeah, that's true that 808 wasn't the fastest processor out there, but G4 was at least as smooth as S7, though not as fast.
But I can only agree with you on the display, especially the part with black color. The other thing I just noticed is the low resolution of icons, both on homescreen and in app drawer. The icons are a bit blurry, while the text underneath those and widgets are perfectly sharp. I'm still not sure if I like TouchWiz, or whatever it is called today.

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The stutters and delay are most obvious on homescreen when you try to swipe to the Briefing screen. I'm not saying the phone is not fast, but it just doesn't feel as smooth as, let's say an iPhone. Plus the delay when you press home button is a little annoying (if you disable double press for camera launch, it reacts immediately, but it's not worth the convenience of quick camera launch). Yeah, that's true that 808 wasn't the fastest processor out there, but G4 was at least as smooth as S7, though not as fast.
But I can only agree with you on the display, especially the part with black color. The other thing I just noticed is the low resolution of icons, both on homescreen and in app drawer. The icons are a bit blurry, while the text underneath those and widgets are perfectly sharp. I'm still not sure if I like TouchWiz, or whatever it is called today.
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Most people install a decent launcher like Nova Launcher to replace the TouchWiz homescreen
I have double press home to open camera, and get no delay pressing home once

I never use the homepages supplied by the phone makers that force feed me with crap! Thats the first thing I remove, as with the HTCs blinkfeed. The next step is to buy Nova launcher Prime or Google launcher.
Try it, you will like it!

I switched from the G4 Dual (the only one disponible here in my country), and I feel like I was using a toy phone with the G4, leather all scratched out, the screen had pink marks (reflections of already used things, it appeared without any reason) and the motherboard gone, well i had all the G series but the G4 was a big let down for me (especially the dual sim one) the S7 smashes the G4 all the way to valhalla.

I also had a g4, still in my family now. It is complete garbage compared to s7. I don't have any stutter on the s7, it's not perfect but much better than the LG. And this coming from a Samsung hater, I dislike almost all their products. The camera is overhyped on both, g4 has better details but the app is garbage, very slow and 7 out of 10 photos on auto mode are crap. The s7 camera lacks detail but it's faster and consistent. Not to talk about the display and battery life where the s7 is much much better.
I still miss the soft android buttons and the fast updates on my old nexus 5... the only reason I don't have a nexus now is the manufacturer -lg- with crap hardware and materials (not interested in the phablets)
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I never used G4 but i heard about poor battery so did not went for it. I bought Lg G5 but then sold it because camera was average though wide lense was awesome but pictures were lacking details as you zoom in....probably worse than what you see with s7. Lg G5 also had poor brightness ...I personally found nexus 6p/5X as best camera for still photography ..I kept changing phones from last few months from nexus 5x to lg g5 and then G5 to S7 and now waiting to try Huawei p9

The s7 is superior in every way, since it costs more and is newer than the G4. The only thing that the G4 beats the s7 in is the developer friendliness.

While I love and miss the LG G4 I had earlier this year, I now have a Galaxy S7 Active and from the moment I first took a picture with it I was disappointed in comparison to the G4. For me personally, from the first image I took with the G4 I knew there was something special about that camera (meaning the lens and sensor) in that smartphone and even now when I don't have one anymore that device produced the best quality image data I've yet worked with from such devices.
I know the GS7A has the same camera setup the GS7 has but even so, I just find that the G4 produced better images when all was said and done, even when using plain old Auto mode let alone really getting some fantastic images done with the Manual mode.
I like the GS7A, I really do, it has some great aspects to it and I'm happy to have a relatively "rugged" phone once again - I owned the GS4A when it first came out years ago and loved it till I sold it, was an amazing device for its time. But I'm practically itching to find someone to trade a G4 for this GS7A (and maybe a few bucks thrown in on the deal considering the GS7A sells for $794 at AT&T and I could get a G4 practically new for ~$200 these days).
I miss the G4, I really do, and I miss what I could do with that camera on the G4 even more - if I could get one of the new ones that (apparently) has finally resolved the bootloop issue (think they're marked as 603 or something meaning March 2016 build date) I might actually do a trade with someone.

opps. nevermind.

I also upgraded from my LG G4 after it died, to the S7. I've only had it for a short while but so far I think it's a worthy upgrade. The only things I'm missing are the FM radio and IR blaster, but I can live without these.
Maybe Samsung will bring back the FM radio like they did the microSD card slot.

Used a G4 for a year, the S7 since last spring.
I can say that I got equally good camera shots in all conditions as far as I can tell. I know what the reviews show, but picture quality is negligent for me. Camera is much faster on the S7.
I miss the back buttons and the tap to turn on the screen in the G4. I also miss the larger screen.
With the S7, I love the amoled, and outside viewing is much much better. I found the automatic brightness of the G4 to be terrible, and in the S7 it works great.
Battery life on the S7 has been better for me, but it's hard for me to compare fairly as I have a few wireless chargers that I pop the S7 on throughout the day, so I am topping up without thinking about it much.
Water resistance has been brilliant for me too. While I have not dropped my phone in water, I use it in the rain regularly.
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My LG G4 also broke last week due to bootlop of death; not under warranty because of unlocked bootloader.
I would like to buy a new one (can be found in stores for about 310 EUR) but I'm afraid that bootlop could happen again, so decided to leave LG (V20 will not arrive in Europe) and to go for a plain S7.
I loved my G4, buttons on the back were great to use.
Camera was impressive; many friends with "better" handphones were stunned seeing pictures taken at night (manual mode).
Main concern is downgrading from 5.5' to 5.1'; when I got the G4 the screen seemed huge, but after some time you ged used to it and quality was also ok for my tastes.
Let's see how the S7 will perform; my old S3 was a good phone after all...
Can you plese tell if the battery is removeable or not ? I have read different opinions about. My concern is that in certain occasions (flashing...) the software reset (Pwr+VolDwn) could not work and lead to a mess. Removing the battery is often the best thing that helps...
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@sandrinopi The s7 has no removable battery. It's built in. However,pressing the power button for some seconds results also to a restart.
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sloany84 said:
I also upgraded from my LG G4 after it died, to the S7. I've only had it for a short while but so far I think it's a worthy upgrade. The only things I'm missing are the FM radio and IR blaster, but I can live without these.
Maybe Samsung will bring back the FM radio like they did the microSD card slot.
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S7 does have fm
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S7 does have fm
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Not on European versions, where FM radio is not factory installed.
If I correctly understood a couple of articles I read, the unique attempt that one can do is to install an FM radio app from Play store and cross fingers.
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TheSproker said:
The s7 is superior in every way, since it costs more and is newer than the G4. The only thing that the G4 beats the s7 in is the developer friendliness.
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Marketers dream of customers who define superiority by highest cost. There are many of us who think developer friendless is the single most important factor. I think the S7 is a horrible phone and a very poor value. I'm glad my teenage son enjoys the one I purchased because I would have sold it within days of buying it if it were my phone.

Is it worth to buy this phone?

Hello, I'm thinking of change my current phone (Xperia Z2). I'm using phone for music and photos mostly and sometimes for vr. Is Axon 7 a good choise for me?

It is perfect for VR and music. Plenty of battery! and pictures are excellent during the day, with optical and electronic image stabilization for perfect video capture. It also has a very convenient selfie camera (wider angle than usual). The only problem of the phone is the pictures in low light conditions. Sound is amazing. You have several custom roms to choose from and in less than 2 weeks it will have Android Nougat. Recently Google declared this phone Daydream certified.

i came over from the xperia z3. I enjoyed the axon 7 very much. The speakers continue the front facing trend for me but with the blast in quality and volume. The battery life is more of less the same as my z3 almost 1 and half day of moderate usage. The camera is quicker to focus then my z3. The screen is better in resolution and benefits of amoled and that's not to say z3 didn't have a good screen.

Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: This phone is a beast. The community will open up once ZTE fully allows development of this device. Honestly though? I like that there's only a few ROMs to choose from. Two for stock and one for CM (Now Lineage). Battery life is outstanding and quick charge is no joke. Everything about this phone screams high-end. The only thing holding this back is the camera and even then.. it's not that bad. You just need to learn how to use it a bit and you'll be fine. I, in a round about way, got this from selling my Galaxy S 6 and then buying the Axon 7 on swappa. I was really nervous about going with a ZTE product only because I've only seen HTC, Samsung (only recently), and Nexus devices as the /only/ devices to buy when it comes to Android. You won't be disappointed.

Do you think guys it's good idea to buy this phone from China?

Can you post some low light photos?

As a multimedia device, the Axon 7 is likely near the top of the pack. The speakers are great, the screen is high quality and punchy, and the design makes it comfortable to hold. If these are important to you, then the Axon 7 is a good choice.
The camera is okay. In well lit situations it can take good pictures. In poorly lit ones though, the results are poor. If a top notch camera is one of the most important factors for you, you may want to look at other devices.
The dev community is small, and the offerings are meager when compared to other devices. If homebrew and custom ROMs are your thing, you may want to look at a different device.
Battery life is largely okay. There are devices with better battery life, there are devices with worse battery life. Unless your needs are super specific, battery life shouldn't be a deciding factor with this device.
Performance is pretty great. The CPU/GPU combo shouldn't leave you wanting. It tends to underperform compared to similarly specced devices when it comes to benchmark tests, but these don't really reflect real world performance. If you want a device that's great for mobile gaming, the Axon 7 is a great pick.
VR is largely down to the Nougat update that brings Daydream compatibility. All signs point to it dropping soon, but it isn't here yet. If you need immediate VR sanctification, you may want to look elsewhere. If your comfortable waiting, the Axon 7 may end up working well. My usual caveat is this though: Buy a device based on what it can do today, not what it might do tomorrow.

For music it's great as it has decent DACs in it and front facing speakers that are fairly loud. It should do fine with VR and is 'Daydream Ready' per Google:https://vr.google.com/daydream/phones/
As for 'buy from China'. If that's where you live, sure, buy from there. If not you need to make sure whatever you're buying will have a warranty that is valid in your region. I'm in the US and purchased mine from B&H which has a nice deal on handset now: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1257205-REG/zte_a7g333_axon_7_64gb_smartphone.html

LG G6 or HTC 10

Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320

It's a shame LG dual SIM devices never got much development...
The 10 is a fantastic device, built like a tank, and feels much, much sturdier than the G6. Great audio, with fine tuning on the jack, as a result with good headphones, the 10 might even be better than the Quad Dac G6. I have both right now, it's a dilemma picking one over the other. I might keep the 10, I don't trust myself and I'm really concerned about breaking the glass back of the G6. I really like the wide camera but I don't take that many pictures. Every day performance is the same, they both fly. The small bezel design is very attractive though. Hard choice, I must admit... I didn't help much.

I'm debating this myself soon. If the G6+ comes to the US and I can get a good deal on it through a carrier I will likely go with the G6 because I have the G5 and have been very happy with it. But if it doesn't, I want that quad dac and the 10 is built like a tank. If I can get a deal I might get the 10.

I just got my G6 yesterday. Coming from an S8.
The G6 feels extremely secure in the hands compared to the S8. Much more sturdier. It rightfully so deserves the military grade it has.
Ive owned the HTC 10 from last year, and don't remember much about it.
It was a very great phone that felt nice due to the build. Audio quality was second to only the V20 I had.
Nothing wrong with the phone at all.
I'd take the G6 over the 10 for these reasons alone
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- audio from US version is acceptable. Actually very good. Not V20, but slightly lower. Better than the S8.
- the screen tech is welcoming. HDR and Dolby Vision.
- 821
- overall great bargain for the price I paid of $380USD
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Screen and camera of the G6 blows away the 10, Audio on the 10 blows the G6 away.
So HTC 10 - Audio and sturdyness (Tank), Camera and waterproof but Fragile (No way military spec sorry) G6.

Jooosty said:
I just got my G6 yesterday. Coming from an S8.
The G6 feels extremely secure in the hands compared to the S8. Much more sturdier. It rightfully so deserves the military grade it has.
Ive owned the HTC 10 from last year, and don't remember much about it.
It was a very great phone that felt nice due to the build. Audio quality was second to only the V20 I had.
Nothing wrong with the phone at all.
I'd take the G6 over the 10 for these reasons alone
- ip68
- audio from US version is acceptable. Actually very good. Not V20, but slightly lower. Better than the S8.
- the screen tech is welcoming. HDR and Dolby Vision.
- 821
- overall great bargain for the price I paid of $380USD
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Where did you find your g6 such a low price?

sagor1 said:
Where did you find your g6 such a low price?
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Craigslist has them at $450 all day.
You just need to submit your offer to a desperate seller.
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I went through the same dilemma, but in the end I went the G6 - it was IP68 that got me.

Jooosty said:
Craigslist has them at $450 all day.
You just need to submit your offer to a desperate seller.
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How the 3rd party seller sell their products low price compare to the official price?Are those factory refurbished phone?

S8, HTC U11 or LG G6

Hi guys, I just went from S7 on OnePlus 5 recently and had it for two days but I hate camera in OnePlus so I'm selling it. My next chooses are S8, HTC U11 or LG G6.
What will be the best choose for me considering that:
- what's the most important for me is video stabilization (even in 1080p) and nice camera app
- I hate fingerprints scanners on the back like in S8 and LG G6
- I love the screen in S8
- I had S4, S5, S6 and S7 before but never had any HTC or LG in my life
- these bezels in U11 aren't a big thing for me. I can accept it. They are like in OP5
Or....I can always make a switch back to the S7 and buy it again haha I just loved that phone and S7 had everything I wished for but I just get bored of Samsungs to be honest.
But on this moment I would choose on HTC, what's your opinion?
Let me know guys, thanks a lot <3

i have the s8, its pretty nice yaeh. switched from the oneplus 3, that phone was faster, but that was about all it had on the s8

@timrock7 - How about that back fingerprint sensor? If Is it great to use? I can't imagine using that on S8 ;/ but I really like to use that feature on other phones with front fingerprint sensor.
Man, if not that sensor on the back I would buy it immidiately ;/

KamilKiri said:
@timrock7 - How about that back fingerprint sensor? If Is it great to use? I can't imagine using that on S8 ;/ but I really like to use that feature on other phones with front fingerprint sensor.
Man, if not that sensor on the back I would buy it immidiately ;/
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always had a phone with a fingerprint on the front, didnt have to many issues with switching to the back. The only downside is when the phone is lying on the table

In my opinion paying premium for a flagship with last year's CPU is pointless, which leads me to thinnk you shouldn't go for LG G6. Both HTC U11 and S8 are wise choice. U11 has Snapdragon so it will likely have better custom ROM support eventually cause S8 Exynos will never offer fully functional AOSP and US Snapdragon is locked afaik

What about camera comparision between U11 and S8? Which one is better? I saw youtube comparisions but one is on the S8 side and one on U11. Can't really choose a winner here. I saw that photos on S8 have a lot better colors. But Samsung incrases it a lot trough their software.

KamilKiri said:
What about camera comparision between U11 and S8? Which one is better? I saw youtube comparisions but one is on the S8 side and one on U11. Can't really choose a winner here. I saw that photos on S8 have a lot better colors. But Samsung incrases it a lot trough their software.
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it really depends on how much you care about the camera and the UI
samsung likely has the best camera. probably more features as well
HTC likely has the better/faster UI

I had OP 3 , then T.
Tried G6, pixel XL and S8.
Have in house Honor8, S7 and some Apple nonsense.
G6 felt sluggish and for a phone sold on its camera, it did not impress.
Pixel XL is pretty good. Great camera , great software. Looks very dated.
S8 just edged it on the camera front.
But as a complete device, it is way out front.
Everything else feels and looks like it is from 2013. FPS on rear has not caused me one single problem.

I'm in the same boat as the OP. Hardware wise the S8 is near perfect, but I really hate all the Samsung bloat. Custom ROMs would help, but I'd lose the camera software optimization provided by the OEM.
The U11 has less bloat and is nearly as good in every respect, but other than software and sound its always #2.
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I've tried the OP5 and the Xperia XZ Premium before coming to the S8. I owned the S7E and I swore I wouldn't get the S8 and try something else but after being disappointed by both these 2 and reading review after review I was like **** it gotta try the S8 and if I still don't want it change again. This is were my downfall and love for the S8 came lol, everything about it is quite amazing. The feel of it, the design, camera, graphics, it all just seems they have done it right and its clicked together perfect. I know you can get S8 ports etc for the S7E which i had but the S8 feels so much more than that. The finger print scanner was my main issue of disliking the S8 tbh but it actually works and i mean it works as in placement so easy to use ofc the odd time you move your finger over the camera lense lol but not as often as you would think when you get used to it. Both OP5 and the Xperia had bezels which I didn't mind *until I got this* this screen is beautiful full size and being able to hide the navbar also so nice. As for bloat *what bloat* lol I have it rooted with Reno Ice and NOTORIOUS kernel = all bloat gone and couldn't be happier :good: FYI I'm not a Samsung fanboy in any way trying to promote lol this is my honest opinion to which I explained I swore never to get one :laugh:

Yeah I too had this decision to make, and considering I'm a photographer, the camera was always going to be one of the key deciding factors. My choices (at the time) were, LG G6, Pixel XL and the S8. After going back and forth over specs and testing different devices I decided on the S8 primarily because it was GORGEOUS and in regard to hardware it covered most (if not all) the bases (good camera, expandable storage, water resistance etc). Always had it in mind that if I didn't like it (as I've never been a Samsung fan - AT ALL) I could sell it and get something else.
That was 2 months ago and within that time this device has made me fall in love with technology all over again. Irrespective of what all the reviews say about the FPS location, its really not a problem, like REALLY. And as for everything else....this device just handles stuff like a boss. The camera is excellent, and yes in certain conditions there may be devices that do a slightly better job, but overall and all round, the S8 IS an outstanding piece of kit. Even with the notorious Samsung bloatware, this device is a pleasure to use, and actually feels like how I envisaged mobile devices would look and feel in the future. My advice, get an S8 (you don't even need to go for the plus, the screen size is awesome), if you end up not liking it, at least it will hold its value so you can purchase something else........but somehow, I don't think you will.
(Disclaimer, 100% not a Samsung fan, in fact have been a HTC stalwart since 2003....but this device is just too good!!!!!!)

I had been using the S8 for a week (and U11 for two days) and the s8 fingerprint scanner is very finicky, so I opt to use iris, facial, or pattern to unlock. U11 fingerprint scanner is much better. Also, the audio on the U11 earbuds are full and more detailed (USB C) compared to the included earbuds in the S8, but do prefer having the 3.5mm jack.
Are some minor camera differences. Both good in daylight, but at night the U11 bumbs up the ISO (on Auto) too high causing a lot of grain.
But overall, I like the S8 more. To me, it has more features, AMOLED Display (the U11 display looks good for lcd but I did have 1 pixel that was stuck on red), and I got the S8 for $450 after the $200 trade, while the U11 is $680 with tax. So not worth the price difference. I actually found the U11 a bit boaring.

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I'm in the same boat as the OP. Hardware wise the S8 is near perfect, but I really hate all the Samsung bloat. Custom ROMs would help, but I'd lose the camera software optimization provided by the OEM.
The U11 has less bloat and is nearly as good in every respect, but other than software and sound its always #2.
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Unless if the rom is still stock based and edited, you still have the same camera. Also, there's even camera add-ons for the S8.

Bloatware is not a problem at all. We can remove almost everything manually so yea...I'm only afraid of that fingerprint sensor on S8, don't know what to think about it. I need to drive to the nearest phone store and test both S8 and U11.