So I'm considering buying this phone but I want to know how does it compare to the N5 in terms of an unlocked bootloader, custom kernels, custom roms development community, and updates from LG.
As you may know, I read that in the past LG didn't update their phones, how can we know that it won't happen again ?
I read that the bootloader is locked, is it true ?
what about custom kernels and custom roms development compared to nexus 5 ? Is there a lot or few ? Are they buggy/stable ?
Thanks.
Yeah the bootloader is locked. But that's what Loki is for. It just bypasses the bootloader entirely.
As for ROMs and kernels, you can check the development sub forums on here yourself to see if the amount is to your satisfaction. Though personally, I don't need a ton of options, just one really good one.
And as for their buginess, it's a case by case basis. Again, that's something you'll need to look into for yourself.
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I am brand new to these boards and usually don't ask questions. I am pretty tech savvy but cannot code or anything like that. I don't mind rooting a phone and flashing a custom ROM. I am currently using the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and love having pretty much stock android but the phone is starting to feel slow. I want to upgrade to the Note 3 because I love the hardware specs. However, I hate what Samsung did to it with TouchWiz. I don't really have time to debug or troubleshoot a ROM. My question revolves around the Cyanogenmod build for this phone. I read that they release a nightlie for it but when you go to the webpage its not listed as an available device. Does this mean that they are still working on an "official version"? I would like to get the phone as close to AOSP as possible and have it fully functional. I understand that all the Samsung stuff will be removed which I am fine with. This is probably basic to most of you but any guidance on what my best option would be greatly appreciated.
There are official nightlies, but only for the Developer Edition phone. The Verizon Retail version has a locked bootloader and can only flash ROMs with a stock kernel.
The DE (unlocked bootloader) is only available from Samsung, and is currently out of stock/backordered. EBay or Swappa are about the only way to come by one now.
what cam30era said.
If you want a full custom ROM that only functions correctly by using a custom kernel, you will need to buy a developer edition Note 3, not a retail device. This is a consequence of the fact that the VZW retail Note 3 has security protections that (have not been circumvented at this time and) prevent the booting of custom kernels.
It is my understanding that CM11 needs kernel features that are not present in the retail, stock (MI9, MJ7, or MJE) kernels. Whether this causes bootloops, UI framework crashes, or something more minor (loss of some functionality) I don't know.
My guess is there will be little motivation for CM11 to "officially" add the VZW Note 3 as long as it's secure boot locks remain un-hacked, as there aren't many dev-ed owners.
[OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod for DEVED VZW Note 3 (HLTEVZW) [2014-01-11]
good luck
In my experience, most of the time, stock based ROMs run faster with better battery life over AOSP anyway.. but I've seen exceptions.
I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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I have a G900V on BOE1 rooted. I'd like to try a custom ROMS that gets rid of all the bloat, and preferably looks vanilla.
Is this possible at all? As far as I can tell there's no way to access a custom bootloader on this phone, but if it is possible, what do you all recommend for a speedy, responsive experience? Maybe there's something I can do without ROMs since I have root?
Xposed still doesn't seem to be supported which is unfortunate. Sorry I'm rambling and asking nooby questions, I just haven't messed around with all this in a while, and would like my phone to be snappy again.
I you're looking for a stock-ish ROM I had very good results with the Optimal ROM. ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2796260
I changed over from that to the MOAR ROM, I like the customization abilities of that one better. You can find all of your options here ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/development
PhreeqQitsikk said:
I have a G900V on BOE1 rooted. I'd like to try a custom ROMS that gets rid of all the bloat, and preferably looks vanilla.
Is this possible at all? As far as I can tell there's no way to access a custom bootloader on this phone, but if it is possible, what do you all recommend for a speedy, responsive experience? Maybe there's something I can do without ROMs since I have root?
Xposed still doesn't seem to be supported which is unfortunate. Sorry I'm rambling and asking nooby questions, I just haven't messed around with all this in a while, and would like my phone to be snappy again.
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Xposed is supported, you just need the right version for Samsung, which can be downloaded here. Install the v75 snapdragon non request concurrent GC version in flashfire and you'll be good to go.
MOAR rom and no the retail versions bootloader is still locked. There is some hope it might get unlocked http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/bootloader-unlock-coming-soon-t3271883
Like the title says, is the original rom good? Or should i go custom right as i boot it 1fst time
It worth it, at least you get the notifications work correctly and shows at the top of the status bar unlike the stock rom..
My advice to you is to istall lineage only, it's the most stable rom so far.
It depends on your priorities, if you want more choice, more control on what apps are pre installed, no bloatware, and more customization options, then that's what custom roms are for. But mind that it comes with lower security, at least as long as the manufacturer updates the device. Because custom roms usually run with looser security settings and features.
does custom roms fix the touchscreen lag on the edges?
Not worth it yet. Wait till official lineage and official trwp are released. More risky to use custom roms whose source codes are not released.
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Not worth it yet. Wait till official lineage and official trwp are released. More risky to use custom roms whose source codes are not released.
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as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
xs1cht said:
as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
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You don't get updates on unofficial versions and it's not as well maintained/supported as name implies. I rather keep bootloader locked and secured, and get almost monthly updates from xiaomi. Until official TWRP and LOS are released, as stated earlier. No need to rush and deal with instability or unexpected problems. I debloat unnecessary apps using SAKI program on stock room without root. I honestly think this is the best path to go for now.
I won't install any custom roms before official TWRP support and official LineageOS ROM support comes. I'd not also unlock my phone's bootloader untill those two thing comes.
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does custom roms fix the touchscreen lag on the edges?
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I switched to Pixel Exirience rom from the global 10.3.5 and touch latency on the edges still the same.
I don't know what custom rom users priorities are, mine definitely having a smooth and proper working device. Most roms I tested in the past simple but most used features, like the camera, were always a headache. It might make sense for a techie or geek, but for daily use I'd rather debloat MIUI for mind peace...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...loat-redmi-note-7-miui-10-3-5-0-root-t3928466
any of you guys installed xiaomi.eu? seems like the better version of miui IMO.
sn4ezz said:
I switched to Pixel Exirience rom from the global 10.3.5 and touch latency on the edges still the same.
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have you tried flashing another kernel?
Maybe THIS can help you with your choice.
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have you tried flashing another kernel?
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The Evira Kernel is built into the PE, so i just updated it to the last 1.9 version and did not feel any difference.
sn4ezz said:
The Evira Kernel is built into the PE, so i just updated it to the last 1.9 version and did not feel any difference.
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bummer (( i was really hoping it was a software issue and a kernel could fix it
xs1cht said:
as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
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If you just want to get rid off the bloatware, just use adb commands. No unlocking and rooting needed
If you got the 3GB/32GB variant. then lineage OS or pixel experience should save you some extra GBs of storage and free you some extra ram (MiUI 10.3.5 uses 1.6GB or something IDLE and leaves you with 20GB storage with stock apps)
It is to early. You have latest version of Android OS on your phone, and Xaomi still give us updates with some new features.
Custom Roms are still developing and have some bugs,so .. I will no rush with installing custom rom yet. Thats my opinion.
When Xaomi stop supporting us and giving us updates,after one year that is sure that will happen,than will custom ROMs will be fully developed..and can install it..
I would like to have custom rom ,and Elvira kernel, I like tweaks and mods from Magisk. But also I want to see MIUI 11 and next Xaomi updates for RN7.
As soon as I could, I unlocked my bootloader and installed AOSP (GSI).
I don't really like MIUI, it has a lot of nice features but actually I don't use most of them.
For me, it's worth.