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Stock ROM vs Custom ROM

I've yet to set-up my new OP5, as i'm still undecided whether to stick with the stock 4.5.4 ROM, or try 1 of the custom ROMs that are currently available.
Who's stuck to stock, and who's tried/trying a custom with a kernel?
Stock ROM = ROM that was supplied with the OP5
Custom ROM = ROM that has been shared on forums by developers. etc.
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As off now I am on stock but will surely be going over custom ROM and custom kernel. Custom ROM and Kernel surely gives some extra benefits over stock(battery backup and many other features.)
So just test the phone for any HW defects or any for a week or so and you are good to root.

As far as I'm concerned, stock is a custom ROM. Not sure which option on the poll to pick...

Elnrik said:
As far as I'm concerned, stock is a custom ROM. Not sure which option on the poll to pick...
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By custom, i'm refering to custom ROMs that XDA users have shared on the forum.
Stock ROM = ROM that was supplied with the OP5
Custom ROM = ROM that has been shared on forums by developers. etc.

Most of what I needed custom ROMs for in the past can be accomplished with oxygen OS now so I probably wont be installing anything aside from OEM updates until they stop supporting this device, if I still have it at that time. And when I do, it's just to try out whatever the latest OS is so I'm familiar with the new features when I do upgrade.
I think the most I will do for now is root, and TWRP but I'm still up in the air about that.

I think Oxygen OS works really nice at the moment, i will stay stock for now.
Updates will come rapidly from Oneplus thus the custom ROMS are not worth it for me at the moment.
Once Lineage or RR Remix arrives i will switch to custom ROMS

I'm on FreedomOS and it's very faster then original OxygenOS... I like this for now better than the original one

I've had my OP5 since yesterday and it's been fantastic and I haven't felt a need to use a custom ROM at all. I also usually add a custom kernel to I can change sounds and increase vibration sensitivity (may still do a kernel). I'm getting just over 9 hours of SOT with everything stock. I mean hell I used Google Maps today for 1 hour straight and it only used 6% battery!? My Nexus would have lost at least 18-20%.
When it's all said and done, I'm sure I'll get the itch to ROM and kernel this phone, but this is truly the first phone I don't feel a need to right now. Of course I rooted the phone and applied TRWP the first 5 min I had the phone haha. That goes without saying for my root apps like TB, Accubattery and Nova Launcher.

Can anyone check if the jelly effect is still there after they flashed the custom roms?

roba93 said:
I think Oxygen OS works really nice at the moment, i will stay stock for now.
Updates will come rapidly from Oneplus thus the custom ROMS are not worth it for me at the moment.
Once Lineage or RR Remix arrives i will switch to custom ROMS
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that's exactly what i would do

I really like the stock ROM. Coming from Samsung and LG phones, the OP5 is already running the type of ROM I'd likely flash to those phones if I could. I did root it though, and I'll likely stay this way unless something really compelling comes up, or OP stops updating it.

Using stock for now. I personally see no point in switching to custom until AOSP/LOS based ROMs begin appearing. It's still going to be Oxygen OS with basically the same features if I'd switch now.

As of now i'm sticking with stock. The phone is still young and i expect software updates to happen more frequently. As soon as the ROM's have more time to be developed and mature and OnePlus slows down the updates I will probably switch. As of now all the ROM's and recovery's are still in development and I am choosing to wait till it smooths out a little.

I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks

I'm on xXx 2.0 Stock ROM and it works great. I will wait until everything is working to move to custom rom.

FreedomOS is a very good rom.
Also with Boeffla, Magisk.
Sent from my 8GB/128GB OP5 using Tapatalk PRO ?

zeyaan said:
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
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Anyone can confirm if zoom 2x and PhotoEditor, for Camera, are working on CUSTOM Roms ?

zeyaan said:
I have tried AICP, Tipsy OS, Mokee, Lineage, Hydrogen os. I would say Stock is the best. My present setup.
Hydrogen Os 3.5.0
Root via Chainfire Super su
Official TWRP
decrypted
Android o emoji's
A few tweaks.
Enjoying every bit.
May switch if CMTE (CM theme engine) comes to lineage Is, not a fan of the present theme engine.
Rooted, because wanted to get rid of the annoying ads and have some tweaks
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May I ask, how is your idle drain on H2OS? What did you tweak to improve battery life?
I'm on H2OS too (so far unrooted), and idle drain is crazy... I even uninstalled Google Play Services (using Yalp Store to get Google Play Apps). Now Android System and Android OS kill my battery haha.

Stock OOS 4.5.6
Rooted with Magisk
Pixel Launcher, Android Messages, Google Dialer
Works great!

Stock rom with dirty core, amazing, while dirty unicorns is not released
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Stick to stock, or use custom rom?

I'm on a ledge about installing a custom rom (Lineage 16 (or something else)), but I have some questions regarding custom ROMs, any answers are appreciated!
1. Will I be able to use apps that requires a non rooted phone? (I've installed a custom rom on my old phone, and it fails to pass safety net)
2. Will there be OTA updates? (I.e. security patches, bud fixes for that rom)
3. Will it be stable? (I've watched some videos and they say custom ROMs slows down the phone, and have random crashes)
4. Can custom ROMs enable project treble? (Not that it matters, just curious)
5. Are there any compromises with custom ROMs over stock rom? (Just any down sides of custom ROMs)
As a traveller, compatibility is very important, so will custom ROMs have any affect? I.e. booking flights, hotels, transfering stuff.

1) I tried Resurrection Remix, AOSPExtended and now I'm on ArrowOS, no problems with SafetyNet and I've been able to use my banking and payment apps
2) Depends on the ROM, but mostly yes, every ROM is regularly updated
3) I have never experienced a significant crash on a custom ROM, Even 9.0 ROMs are pretty stable as of now, ArrowOS feels much snappier than stock imho
4) Yup, some ROMs here have treble support. There's a guide by CosmicDan that explains how to enable Treble on our device
5) Pretty much everything about having your original firmware VS having a wider range of customization options. I don't think the latter is too risky, but if you don't like it you can always do a backup and go back to stock. Phones like Mi A1 are made for modding and are all about the user's freedom

BetaPix said:
1) I tried Resurrection Remix, AOSPExtended and now I'm on ArrowOS, no problems with SafetyNet and I've been able to use my banking and payment apps
2) Depends on the ROM, but mostly yes, every ROM is regularly updated
3) I have never experienced a significant crash on a custom ROM, Even 9.0 ROMs are pretty stable as of now, ArrowOS feels much snappier than stock imho
4) Yup, some ROMs here have treble support. There's a guide by CosmicDan that explains how to enable Treble on our device
5) Pretty much everything about having your original firmware VS having a wider range of customization options. I don't think the latter is too risky, but if you don't like it you can always do a backup and go back to stock. Phones like Mi A1 are made for modding and are all about the user's freedom
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Thanks for the info mate! I bought the Mi A1 because it has a strong modding community.

I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.

kudos1uk said:
I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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I have the exact same "addiction" and i came to the same conclusion: I've bought this phone because its "pure" android so i wont mess with it! Flash a custom of 9.0 just to tell my friends that i got it first? Stock will always be stock, and until the device become unsupported i will stick to it. Then, flashing custom roms will be a addiction again :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:

Sorry to be kinda off-topic on this but I'd like to ask a question regarding custom ROMs (Treble or not) regarding the Mi A1.
I've tried some of them, and usually what makes me get back to stock is the unlocking delay. There's always a delay when pressing the button and the screen turning on.
Have tried LOS15.1, 2-3 Treble ROMs (I think it's normal that it's like that on every one of the Treble ones if it's a vendor issue) and I think one of the Pie ones.
Am I doing something wrong or is this how it is supposed to be? Is there any Pie ROM that doesn't have that issue?
If there isn't, I don't think it's worth flashing a custom ROM. Untouched Stock with Gcam is pretty neat.

kudos1uk said:
I have a modding addiction and always want to try something new but with this phone I have to resist.
I ask myself when do I actually want, for me, I flashed my Samsung to get a pure android experience without bloatware, then I have to remind myself, I bought this phone because it is AndroidOne and the little bloatware is easily disabled, I'm actually very happy with the experience.
Next I have to ask myself, what will I gain from modding, and the truth is the only thing I really want is Gcam and honestly I don't really need it.
Sometimes it's hard to resist but I just keep reminding myself I already have all I want, for me I will stay 100% stock until after P when the device becomes unsupported.
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Yeah, I've tried liquid remix 10.0.1, and I must say, sticking to stock is the best. Don't get me wrong, I really like custom roms, but after installing it, I realised that it's not even worth it. Plus, I don't really like to much customisation. You could say I'm more of an apple sheep. I'll probably switch to custom roms once this phone gets outdated. All the custom mods I need is root. For me, the best solution is to stock to the stock rom with root access.

Hi,
I face the same questions as WhatzIt2Ya, the brand new A1 is in front of me, currently empty and up to date with latest October update, and I ask myself what to do.
The phone will be my daily driver, so the encryption is mandatory. That's why I'm sad to see LineageOS Pie has some problems with it as of today. I run LineageOS on my parents' Nexus 5 and it rocks.
We have basically five possibilities:
1. Don't touch anything, keep the original ROM, the locked bootloader, OTA and so on. As long as the security patches arrive, why not. However, no TWRP and no root = no nandroid backups and no Titanium Backup, i.e. I'll lose lots of time in one year to backup the phone and configure it again when I'll take the custom ROM route, and I of course will to keep the phone updated.
2. Just unlock the bootloader. The phone will wipe itself, but that's not a problem, it's empty anyway. TWRP can be installed later to perform the nandroid backup.
3. Install TWRP and keep the stock ROM with root eventually. A fellow developer has figured out how to convert OTA to images installable with TWRP, so basically it's one OTA per month vs one TWRP install per month.
4. Install some custom ROM. Which one?
5. Treblize the phone. That's the future, but are the ROMs ready?
In 2018 Android is still behind Apple regarding backups. I have a work provided iPhone and all I need to do before getting mad is a simple iTunes backup. The phone can be restored in exactly the same state later, without my intervention. On Android I need to figure out how to backup things one by one (icons in folders, call history, SMS, all chats, etc., etc...) and to configure the new phone again.
And with root one loses the possibility to use some banking apps, so we add yet another trick to hide we are rooted. It's fun and rewarding, but takes too much time.

WhatzIt2Ya said:
I'm on a ledge about installing a custom rom (Lineage 16 (or something else)), but I have some questions regarding custom ROMs, any answers are appreciated!
1. Will I be able to use apps that requires a non rooted phone? (I've installed a custom rom on my old phone, and it fails to pass safety net)
2. Will there be OTA updates? (I.e. security patches, bud fixes for that rom)
3. Will it be stable? (I've watched some videos and they say custom ROMs slows down the phone, and have random crashes)
4. Can custom ROMs enable project treble? (Not that it matters, just curious)
5. Are there any compromises with custom ROMs over stock rom? (Just any down sides of custom ROMs)
As a traveller, compatibility is very important, so will custom ROMs have any affect? I.e. booking flights, hotels, transfering stuff.
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Generally well regarded roms like Lineageos which are developed by 'good' developers will be more stable. Some volunteers who develop lineageos builds have a better track record than others. "Official" lineageos requires volunteers to pledge to follow a set of rules which include things like timely updates on major security patches, release updates for x number of months etc. Lineage is generally quite stable because volunteers are working off from a good platform. If you are extra worried about security, you might want to stick with stock because who really has the time to keep reading through the commits even if the code is open sourced?
Lineage has a built in root which will not pass safetynet so don't use it if you want to pass. Or use Magisk to root instead. But Magisk will need regular updates to pass safetynet and its a continuing cat and mouse game where google will fix safetynet and magisk will fail safetynet until the next update.....
Edit- I forgot to add that just unlocking the bootloader will cause safetynet to fail so every Lineageos phone would fail safetynet even if root was not enabled.
If you have to ask about treble, don't do it. Noobs have bricked their phones and there are threads that they have started crying for help.
Custom roms are all developed by volunteers and the level of testing is dodgy - who has time for that when they are working on it in their spare time? Occasionally there might be mistakes and phones will get bricked or lose wifi/BT functionality like one early version of a custom rom which wrote to parts of the firmware which should have been normally left untouched.

is worth to flash a custom rom

Hello guys, I would like to know from you if its worth it to flash a customrom on my mia1. I've been using it since one year now , and i have keept it stock, just the camera2api for gc.
And over all i've been happy with it.
And have 0 experience with A/B partition phones ,my previews phone was nexus 6.
Is it easy to flash twrp and than a custom rom ?
Any suggestions would be apreciated :victory:

Depends what extra feature you seek.
I use stock happily with xposed

I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.

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I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
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Thats what i've been thinking too , its not that i need any more features , im used to stock android.

In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram

Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer:
Xiaomi seem to not be that good with speed & quality of updates. I haven't experienced many bugs myself but just the fact how slow updates are compared to custom ROMs and the fact that Magisk doesn't work properly on Stock made me just forget about it and flash a Custom ROM.

The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?

MrBurnGamer said:
In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
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I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)

kudos1uk said:
The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
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Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom

orgert said:
Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
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I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO

Better flash custom roms after xiaomi drops the updates. Like after a year Pie updates.

lolmensch said:
I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
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Or xposed

orgert said:
I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
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Don't be afraid of A/B Partition, CosmicDan TWRP very easy to use

Should I go for Custom Roms?

It's been more than a month since I got my lavender. Seeing so many Roms developed, I'm feeling to unlock my bootloader and flash custom Rom. What do you think?

I can already unlock bootloader but didn't. I feel custom roms development for this device isn't mature enough yet. Thinking of waiting until official TWRP and LOS are released.

Please guys, do custom roms have L1 certification for playing HD videos on Netflix ?

I think you should stay with MIUI (but this version is better) + debloating your device with this tool (you can remove everything - I already did it and installed Google apps via the playstore)
I think MIUI is more feature complete: the edge gestures amazing & tons of useful feature that are simply missing in stock android! Feel free to slap a theme on it (if you want) and there you go cheers!

I'll be sticking with MIUI until they stop updating. Then I'll switch to LineageOS or similar. By that time I expect that it will be very stable and make my phone feel like new.
I have switched to Nova Launcher though.

What are differences between the latest MIUI 10.3.5 and xiomi.eu?

pcm2a said:
What are differences between the latest MIUI 10.3.5 and xiomi.eu?
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Beta Xiaomi.eu ROMs are based on china dev which has latest changes and the good thing is they removed a lot of useless stuff and added Gapps as well. It's like clean version of china dev in all languages without any ads.
It's really good

i got my Redmi Note 7 (global) 3 days ago. I thought in advantage that i will go for LOS (or similar) as soon as possible. But my opinion has changed...
The most important thing in my opinion is debloating, as mentioned above. You don't need root or an unlocked bootloader btw.
In addition i use Nova Launcher Prime and the Playstore App "Notch Notifications for MIUI".
I'm very satisfied so far... MIUI definitely adds some super useful functions that i missed on my recent phones like Mi A1 with Android One.

On the other hand, the more people use and test the custom roms now, the better quality said roms will be when I want them in a year or two.

Best Rom for 8 pro

Friends, recently i bought new One plus 8 pro. It is 1 year old. I mean released version. So i will get max. 1 year more Big upgrade.(Android12) & 1 Security update. It is not a big deal for me. That's why i need long term supported alternative Rom, such as Custom rom. My phone will be In2020 china version. I need all possible functions on rom.(stable) i will no root, cause i need baking app too. So should i stick witch China(Hos) Oneplus or go for better stable rom. Can you prefer me a good stable custom rom(less bug) for long term oTa support? & how to get back to official rom with bootloader relock?(if anything goes wrong)
I know, a lot of questions. I m doing for future proof for 4-5 years. Thank you in advance.

OnePlus 8 Pro ROMs, Kernels, Recoveries, & Other
Improve your OnePlus 8 Pro 's battery life, performance, and look by rooting it and installing a custom ROM, kernel, and more.
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You can put oos on your device if it has hhydrogen os.
all custom roms have different features and customizations.
I suggest you go to the telegram channels and talk to the people there.
but if you want short answer then go for havoc rom . 4.4 version is very stable.
no rom is perfect so you’ll see what bugs there are from the group .
check it out

Stock OS works a treat...

zizzyboi said:
You can put oos on your device if it has hhydrogen os.
all custom roms have different features and customizations.
I suggest you go to the telegram channels and talk to the people there.
but if you want short answer then go for havoc rom . 4.4 version is very stable.
no rom is perfect so you’ll see what bugs there are from the group .
check it out
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Thank you Sir. I joined telegram.i do not find any oneplus havoc related rom discussion in xda.i am still looking.Can i make global Oos as my native rom after flashing stock China rom.Then relock bootloader. As far i know i can not do that with custom rom but those roms are from same maker(oneplus Company). Just curious.

Ionic_Flight said:
Thank you Sir. I joined telegram.i do not find any oneplus havoc related rom discussion in xda.i am still looking.Can i make global Oos as my native rom after flashing stock China rom.Then relock bootloader. As far i know i can not do that with custom rom but those roms are from same maker(oneplus Company). Just curious.
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I believe in pixel experience rom you can lock boot loader. Talk to the dev about that .
all chats go on telegram. Find the group and join and ask away.