I am brand new to these boards and usually don't ask questions. I am pretty tech savvy but cannot code or anything like that. I don't mind rooting a phone and flashing a custom ROM. I am currently using the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and love having pretty much stock android but the phone is starting to feel slow. I want to upgrade to the Note 3 because I love the hardware specs. However, I hate what Samsung did to it with TouchWiz. I don't really have time to debug or troubleshoot a ROM. My question revolves around the Cyanogenmod build for this phone. I read that they release a nightlie for it but when you go to the webpage its not listed as an available device. Does this mean that they are still working on an "official version"? I would like to get the phone as close to AOSP as possible and have it fully functional. I understand that all the Samsung stuff will be removed which I am fine with. This is probably basic to most of you but any guidance on what my best option would be greatly appreciated.
There are official nightlies, but only for the Developer Edition phone. The Verizon Retail version has a locked bootloader and can only flash ROMs with a stock kernel.
The DE (unlocked bootloader) is only available from Samsung, and is currently out of stock/backordered. EBay or Swappa are about the only way to come by one now.
what cam30era said.
If you want a full custom ROM that only functions correctly by using a custom kernel, you will need to buy a developer edition Note 3, not a retail device. This is a consequence of the fact that the VZW retail Note 3 has security protections that (have not been circumvented at this time and) prevent the booting of custom kernels.
It is my understanding that CM11 needs kernel features that are not present in the retail, stock (MI9, MJ7, or MJE) kernels. Whether this causes bootloops, UI framework crashes, or something more minor (loss of some functionality) I don't know.
My guess is there will be little motivation for CM11 to "officially" add the VZW Note 3 as long as it's secure boot locks remain un-hacked, as there aren't many dev-ed owners.
[OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod for DEVED VZW Note 3 (HLTEVZW) [2014-01-11]
good luck
In my experience, most of the time, stock based ROMs run faster with better battery life over AOSP anyway.. but I've seen exceptions.
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Hey everyone, over the past couple of months I've been slowly customizing my phone and making it my own. Recently I've read about how Android is filled with bloatware and isn't as secure (privacy-wise etc) as Cyanogen and Replicant. However, the Samsung Galaxy S5 is not compatible with them (at least the Verizon one isn't).
Are there alternatives that are open source, secure, and protects privacy?
AOSP ROMs (ex. CM) aren't possible on VZW S5. You'll have to use a TW-based ROM flashed with Safestrap. TW-based ROMs are just the stock Samsung ROM stripped and customized. Until the bootloader is unlocked there's just no way to use ROMs like CM at this time and very doubtful if ever.
Hi,
I bought my Samsung as an Android Newb in 2013. After enjoying the functionality and customization of the phone, I soon became aware of the ultimate power of these super customization-friendly portable devices (Growing up in the 486x66Mhz PC Days makes me appreciate this). In short, I learned to root, work recovery, flash ROMs, integrate apps and take advantage of the open-source nature of the beast.
For all that, I mainly stuck with CyanogenMod, eventually braving the Snapshot 11, and it has been quite suitable and very stable. But, it is 2015 now, and my phone is needing more and more tweaking, being near the end of it's life cycle. I am looking for a change to something more custom. Hopefully, a dev has just what Im looking for. I just have a few questions that I can't find answers to before I dive into the flash happy world of testing ROMs or nightlys. This is my ONE phone after all.
I have the Sprint S4 (SPH-L720)...It was OTA'd to 4.4.4 and i use CM 11 M12 snapshot with CMRecovery 6.0.4.7, TB, NAE Modem. I originally rooted and flashed long ago with Odin, but I am more proficient with other methods now...
With this device is think TWRP is the necessary choice, tho Odin can be used for certain purposes.
1) I need a Mod that incorporates a good balance of power saving with performance when needed.
2) I would prefer a kernel that is good, but that I don't have to mess with
3) I would like to know the best firmware choice for my device
4) I am not sure if I should go to a Lollipop port, stay with 4.4.4 or roll back to a stable 4.4.2
5)I like CyanogenMod, but I am looking for something with a little less built in, a lighter gapps, and slicker interface
6) From what I see, SlimKat looks good, but is it a good choice for my device.
7) FInally, and most importantly, What is the best process for getting my rig set up, and then flashing nightly's when needed and not having to re set up my entire device? Just a dirty flash?
Thank you, and I look forward to hearing back, and even testing in the future.
Ive been looking at forums for awhile and it seems as though my device is not supported for root or custom ROMs. i had CM on my S2 and liked it. so when i look up the process for the S4, the posts are from 2013 saying that I cant root or install CM without tripping Qfuse and bricking my phone. its mid 2015 and i am wondering if there are CM mods available, or at least root options. there seem to be some, but the link i provide implies that modding the phone might brick it due to qfuse.
Model:
SAMSUNG-SGH-1337
Android Version:
5.0.1
Kernel version:
3.4.0-4408911
Build Number:
LRX22C.1337UCUG0C3
Knox version:
2.3
h t t p ://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jflteatt
an older post about bricking the device on ATT phones.
There's a keep root method during the upgrade process to 5.0.1, and I'm fairly confident the developers involved with Cyanogen/Cyanogenmod are intentionally ignoring AT&T and Verizon S4's because the bootloaders are locked and uncrackable.
Oh also because they don't feel like or are incapable of (I got my money on the first one) porting it for safestrap use.
DankHeals said:
There's a keep root method during the upgrade process to 5.0.1, and I'm fairly confident the developers involved with Cyanogen/Cyanogenmod are intentionally ignoring AT&T and Verizon S4's because the bootloaders are locked and uncrackable.
Oh also because they don't feel like or are incapable of (I got my money on the first one) porting it for safestrap use.
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It's not possible to port it for Safestrap and have it run correctly and fully featured actually. Since they could only use the stock kernel, we can't set SELinux permissive on Lollipop, which breaks things, and AOSP and TouchWiz kernels are different so you get issues like on the Google Edition ROMs of WiFi issues, no USB, and other incompatibilities.
DeadlySin9 said:
It's not possible to port it for Safestrap and have it run correctly and fully featured actually. Since they could only use the stock kernel, we can't set SELinux permissive on Lollipop, which breaks things, and AOSP and TouchWiz kernels are different so you get issues like on the Google Edition ROMs of WiFi issues, no USB, and other incompatibilities.
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I forgot about the SELinux issue, but there have been successful AOSP/Google edition ports for the S4.
Not for lollipop yet, but I had a KitKat one for a while.
Only issue was needing to soft reboot after a hard reboot to get WiFi to work.
I'd put up with that for a CM port if the SELinux policies issue can be resolved.
DankHeals said:
I forgot about the SELinux issue, but there have been successful AOSP/Google edition ports for the S4.
Not for lollipop yet, but I had a KitKat one for a while.
Only issue was needing to soft reboot after a hard reboot to get WiFi to work.
I'd put up with that for a CM port if the SELinux policies issue can be resolved.
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It was still luck that those even booted, and that only worked becasue the GPE S4 kernel shared enough similarities to work. Straight AOSP builds seem not to work as well, and either way I don't think anyone wants to do so if most of the features that make it CM won't even work.
I have a
(hltevzw) Verizon Developer Edition phone
I don't know what roms run good on it and which ones I can flash without locking my device.
Right now I'm running an old build of the dirty unions rom and its a little buggy.
Anyone still have this device that can point me to a good running rom?
I don't care if its kitkat or lollipop or even if its touchwise at this point just as long as it does not lock it down.
Thank You,
Corey
I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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