Ive been looking at forums for awhile and it seems as though my device is not supported for root or custom ROMs. i had CM on my S2 and liked it. so when i look up the process for the S4, the posts are from 2013 saying that I cant root or install CM without tripping Qfuse and bricking my phone. its mid 2015 and i am wondering if there are CM mods available, or at least root options. there seem to be some, but the link i provide implies that modding the phone might brick it due to qfuse.
Model:
SAMSUNG-SGH-1337
Android Version:
5.0.1
Kernel version:
3.4.0-4408911
Build Number:
LRX22C.1337UCUG0C3
Knox version:
2.3
h t t p ://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_jflteatt
an older post about bricking the device on ATT phones.
There's a keep root method during the upgrade process to 5.0.1, and I'm fairly confident the developers involved with Cyanogen/Cyanogenmod are intentionally ignoring AT&T and Verizon S4's because the bootloaders are locked and uncrackable.
Oh also because they don't feel like or are incapable of (I got my money on the first one) porting it for safestrap use.
DankHeals said:
There's a keep root method during the upgrade process to 5.0.1, and I'm fairly confident the developers involved with Cyanogen/Cyanogenmod are intentionally ignoring AT&T and Verizon S4's because the bootloaders are locked and uncrackable.
Oh also because they don't feel like or are incapable of (I got my money on the first one) porting it for safestrap use.
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It's not possible to port it for Safestrap and have it run correctly and fully featured actually. Since they could only use the stock kernel, we can't set SELinux permissive on Lollipop, which breaks things, and AOSP and TouchWiz kernels are different so you get issues like on the Google Edition ROMs of WiFi issues, no USB, and other incompatibilities.
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It's not possible to port it for Safestrap and have it run correctly and fully featured actually. Since they could only use the stock kernel, we can't set SELinux permissive on Lollipop, which breaks things, and AOSP and TouchWiz kernels are different so you get issues like on the Google Edition ROMs of WiFi issues, no USB, and other incompatibilities.
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I forgot about the SELinux issue, but there have been successful AOSP/Google edition ports for the S4.
Not for lollipop yet, but I had a KitKat one for a while.
Only issue was needing to soft reboot after a hard reboot to get WiFi to work.
I'd put up with that for a CM port if the SELinux policies issue can be resolved.
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I forgot about the SELinux issue, but there have been successful AOSP/Google edition ports for the S4.
Not for lollipop yet, but I had a KitKat one for a while.
Only issue was needing to soft reboot after a hard reboot to get WiFi to work.
I'd put up with that for a CM port if the SELinux policies issue can be resolved.
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It was still luck that those even booted, and that only worked becasue the GPE S4 kernel shared enough similarities to work. Straight AOSP builds seem not to work as well, and either way I don't think anyone wants to do so if most of the features that make it CM won't even work.
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I am brand new to these boards and usually don't ask questions. I am pretty tech savvy but cannot code or anything like that. I don't mind rooting a phone and flashing a custom ROM. I am currently using the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon and love having pretty much stock android but the phone is starting to feel slow. I want to upgrade to the Note 3 because I love the hardware specs. However, I hate what Samsung did to it with TouchWiz. I don't really have time to debug or troubleshoot a ROM. My question revolves around the Cyanogenmod build for this phone. I read that they release a nightlie for it but when you go to the webpage its not listed as an available device. Does this mean that they are still working on an "official version"? I would like to get the phone as close to AOSP as possible and have it fully functional. I understand that all the Samsung stuff will be removed which I am fine with. This is probably basic to most of you but any guidance on what my best option would be greatly appreciated.
There are official nightlies, but only for the Developer Edition phone. The Verizon Retail version has a locked bootloader and can only flash ROMs with a stock kernel.
The DE (unlocked bootloader) is only available from Samsung, and is currently out of stock/backordered. EBay or Swappa are about the only way to come by one now.
what cam30era said.
If you want a full custom ROM that only functions correctly by using a custom kernel, you will need to buy a developer edition Note 3, not a retail device. This is a consequence of the fact that the VZW retail Note 3 has security protections that (have not been circumvented at this time and) prevent the booting of custom kernels.
It is my understanding that CM11 needs kernel features that are not present in the retail, stock (MI9, MJ7, or MJE) kernels. Whether this causes bootloops, UI framework crashes, or something more minor (loss of some functionality) I don't know.
My guess is there will be little motivation for CM11 to "officially" add the VZW Note 3 as long as it's secure boot locks remain un-hacked, as there aren't many dev-ed owners.
[OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod for DEVED VZW Note 3 (HLTEVZW) [2014-01-11]
good luck
In my experience, most of the time, stock based ROMs run faster with better battery life over AOSP anyway.. but I've seen exceptions.
In my years of rooted phones (Galaxy S2 E4GT, Galaxy S4 (destroyed USB port), Galaxy S4 #2... neither of the S4's have Spark), I have always stuck with stock rooted ROMs. My Sprint Samsung Galaxy S4 is currently on NAE stock rooted TouchWiz with the MF9 bootloader (no-Knox). I have developed a strange issue with loosing my mobile connection and GPS, referenced here: [Q] NAE started loosing mobile connection & GPS? and here: [Q] Loosing mobile connection & GPS. The best suggestion I feel I have received to deal with my issue is to flash a 4.4.2 NAE ROM that already has the Knox removed from it, which means looking for a non-stock ROM, so I am looking for recommendations...
My main priority is STABILITY over bells and whistles. I would prefer a TouchWiz based ROM, because I like the interface, however the only 4.4.2 NAE TouchWiz ROM I find is Negalite WondeROM X, and the developer of that ROM has not posted here since April, so it appears to be abandoned. Also, I'm not so keen on being stuck with a blue theme anyways.
That then leaves me with AOSP ROMs I believe. It occurs to me that because I'm use Nova Launcher, assuming that works under AOSP, rather than the TouchWiz launcher, my interface isn't going to change anyway, correct?
I would prefer to be able to use the KT-SGS4 kernel, only because I like it. I prefer to be able to make choice for myself than to have choices made for me (I might not prefer a ROM that removes a lot of bloatware if I don't consider some of it bloatware, or forces me into a certain color scheme, for example).
So any recommendations for AOSP ROMs that fit my needs? I haven't even started looking yet, but thought I'd throw this out there. CyanogenMod certainly seems to be the most well know ROM (and that is AOSP, correct?), but to my way of thinking, any ROM that needs nightly updates must have a lot of issues that need fixing (correct me if I am wrong about that... and I'm not the nightly flashing type anyways). I have always stuck stock rooted to avoid problems, so I DON'T want flash a ROM that will CAUSE problems! Thanks!
Well... I don't seem to be getting much (ANY) response to this. Having looked around myself, I am finding it difficult just finding ANY 4.4.2 ROMs, everything seems to have gone on to 4.4.4. My reason for AVOIDING 4.4.4 at this point is that 4.4.2 is still the official release level for my phone, plus the ext sd card issues I've heard about (which may or may not be an issue). SO... ARE THERE ANY VALID 4.4.2 NAE CUSTOM ROMs to flash? At least tell me that. I still strongly dislike ANYTHING that has NIGHTLY updates. Thanks.
Previous versions are Nae based newest 2.0 version is ng2 based
[ROM][NAE/NG2][TW 4.4] [TEAM ACHERON] SuperS4 [ODEXED] UPDATED 8-22-14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773162
pontif said:
Previous versions are Nae based newest 2.0 version is ng2 based
[ROM][NAE/NG2][TW 4.4] [TEAM ACHERON] SuperS4 [ODEXED] UPDATED 8-22-14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773162
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I know that, but I'm figuring since my phone hasn't officially received a NG2 update yet (unless I am missing something... I think the Spark version has), I don't want to make that jump yet (stupid or not...)
rsngfrce said:
I know that, but I'm figuring since my phone hasn't officially received a NG2 update yet (unless I am missing something... I think the Spark version has), I don't want to make that jump yet (stupid or not...)
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Download the older version 1.6 it's nae based. The link is in the OP for older versions. You don't have to take the leap.
Well, right now, based on what I have found, or based on recommendations, these seem to be my options:
[ROM][NAE][4.4.2] Negalite WondeROM X | Aroma | Xposed | Performance | Kernel | 04-11
[ROM][NAE/NG2][TW 4.4] [TEAM ACHERON] SuperS4 [ODEXED] UPDATED 8-22-14 (older version 1.6)
[ROM] ***Sacs_Custom_Rom_4.4.2_KITKAT_v6*** (I am still really not clear at all what the features of this ROM are).
[ROM][Official][4.4.2] SlimKat Stable 3.0 (older 4.4.2 NAE version, BUT I cannot find 4.4.2 NAE gapps on their site anywhere).
Does anybody have any opinions?
Hey man. I was sort of in the same boat as you. Years of flashing but prefer stock for stability. Lately my s4 felt not only sluggish, but there have been odd jitters in audio, terrible battery life when I'm actually using it very little. So I decided to install CM in a whim.
Last I used CM it was trash. The rom was absurdly unstable and it was just a bad experience, however, with over a year on the market I thought that the S4 version might have changed and be better. And change it did. This rom is better, more stable, absurdly faster, and to top it off battery has improved about 30%. Maybe even more. The system settings are not only extremely decluttered and well laid out, but it also has lots of features that I used apps for, such as NFC profiles baked into the OS.
As for the nightly, I strongly recommend against flashing them, pick the "Stable" version of the rom, the "Milestone" build. Also, CM unified all S4s to 1 master build so our device would be this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Jflte_Info That's great news as that means that all of the resources have been focused on one rom and it works very well. No issues with any radios, GPS, BT, WiFi, they all switch on faster than they did on the stock s4 build and GPS locks fast. Everything for me is working perfectly after a week. I advice you flash stock, root, then you flash a recovery(I used TWRP) and do a full wipe, flash the latest CM M build and see for yourself. I'm thoroughly impressed with the ROM, I'm sure you will be too.
Thanks very much for the informative post! I will have to give CM a look as you suggest. :thumbup:
Since their is no closed framework on Samsung devices with lollipop TW, what's better the lollipop or old KitKat with tweaks that can look like lollipop and much more?
I have Verizon locked boot loader so CM12 and others are not a option
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Since their is no xposed framework on Samsung devices with lollipop TW, what's better the new lollipop or old KitKat with tweaks that can look like lollipop and much more?
I have Verizon locked boot loader so CM12 and others are not a option [/QUOTE]
bumpaudio said:
Since their is no closed framework on Samsung devices with lollipop TW, what's better the lollipop or old KitKat with tweaks that can look like lollipop and much more?
I have Verizon locked boot loader so CM12 and others are not a option
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of course, this is subjective depending on what is important to the end user but for me, without Xposed, I have chosen to hold back because I use several modules that I really like having. hopefully, Xposed will get updated to allow it to work with Lollipop!
tgeery said:
of course, this is subjective depending on what is important to the end user but for me, without Xposed, I have chosen to hold back because I use several modules that I really like having. hopefully, Xposed will get updated to allow it to work with Lollipop!
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I've found Lollipop to be much faster, with better battery. MOAR, Extreme Syndicate and others have almost anything you could want, with new stuff coming out often.
Stock rooted 4.4.4 with Xposed/Xtether serves all my needs and is wicked fast.
I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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Trying out a Sprint S4 (non T version), but not thrilled with the performance of the stock 4.4 ROM. Figured maybe 5+ would be an improvement, but wanted to go with something built for speed and efficiency (ie. not full of bloat) rather than let it update itself.
From what I've read, most people seemed to recommend Dirty Unicorns as a fairly clean and speedy ROM. I'm not looking for heavy modifications and skins or anything like that. Those kinds of things turn me off.
But, it seems that Dirty Unicorns is no longer supported on the S4, the links in the official thread are broken and the DU website doesn't list the S4 as a supported device... oddly, none of the Galaxy phones are listed as supported devices. Were we dropped? What happened? Is it still out there somewhere? Is there any other similar ROM that folks recommend?
I've got TWRP ready to go!
Dishe said:
Trying out a Sprint S4 (non T version), but not thrilled with the performance of the stock 4.4 ROM. Figured maybe 5+ would be an improvement, but wanted to go with something built for speed and efficiency (ie. not full of bloat) rather than let it update itself.
From what I've read, most people seemed to recommend Dirty Unicorns as a fairly clean and speedy ROM. I'm not looking for heavy modifications and skins or anything like that. Those kinds of things turn me off.
But, it seems that Dirty Unicorns is no longer supported on the S4, the links in the official thread are broken and the DU website doesn't list the S4 as a supported device... oddly, none of the Galaxy phones are listed as supported devices. Were we dropped? What happened? Is it still out there somewhere? Is there any other similar ROM that folks recommend?
I've got TWRP ready to go!
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BlissPop is a great 5.1.1 ROM, CM13 is also a good 6.0.1 option. If TW is your thing, WickedX is your best 5.0.1 choice.
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mattzeller said:
BlissPop is a great 5.1.1 ROM, CM13 is also a good 6.0.1 option. If TW is your thing, WickedX is your best 5.0.1 choice.
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I don't particularly care for TW or not, I just want to make sure everything works as well as possible (sometimes AOSP roms need to be coaxed into working more than ones based on stock). Also things like Samsung's pedometer (S Health) have replaced my fitbit, and I'm hoping whatever ROM I install will still work with it.
Meanwhile, I can't believe I forgot about CM! I should have thought of that first. Those are always solid once they are officially supported by CM! But I wonder- is CM12 better on this hardware than CM13? In my experience over the years, I've often found that ROMs based on versions officially supported by the device worked better than ones that were pushing newer versions. At least CM12 is based on Lollipop, which IS available for this phone officially. But then again, this is CM we're talking about. If 13 works well, I have no qualms using it. Any advice on that one way or the other?
Dishe said:
I don't particularly care for TW or not, I just want to make sure everything works as well as possible (sometimes AOSP roms need to be coaxed into working more than ones based on stock). Also things like Samsung's pedometer (S Health) have replaced my fitbit, and I'm hoping whatever ROM I install will still work with it.
Meanwhile, I can't believe I forgot about CM! I should have thought of that first. Those are always solid once they are officially supported by CM! But I wonder- is CM12 better on this hardware than CM13? In my experience over the years, I've often found that ROMs based on versions officially supported by the device worked better than ones that were pushing newer versions. At least CM12 is based on Lollipop, which IS available for this phone officially. But then again, this is CM we're talking about. If 13 works well, I have no qualms using it. Any advice on that one way or the other?
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I haven't had any real problems on stock CM 13(officially supported device), I run SynergyOS which is cm based so I can undervolt and underclock. You can get S Health on CM ROMs if you go that route.
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