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When I got my SGS it only ate 2-3% of the battery during the night. Since then I've tried many different firmwares, currently on the latest JM6, and all of them have had a very annoying problem. It eats 8-10% of the battery during night. I haven't changed anything, wifi is "always on" to avoid it eating battery using 3G. Ofcourse I've tried turning it off, too. The funny thing is that using Spare Parts it seems like it's the "suspend" process using a lot of CPU, which I believe it definately shouldn't. Some times after flashing it seems okay and can sleep properly, but then it goes haywire again - without having installed anything since it worked. Anyone else having "suspend" process using a lot of CPU?
To test, install Spare Parts. Plug in the charger, and remove it again to reset stats (Spare Parts uses some system app to show the CPU usage, and its default view is "since last unplugged", very practical). Go to bed. Sleep. Wake up. Start Spare Parts. Select "Battery History". Click "Other usage", select "CPU usage". Wait for half a minute or so (it needs to load data, if you click anything now you won't get CPU time used). Find the "suspend" process. Check how much CPU it has used.
I might add, that this doesn't seem to have anything to do with wake locks, it's something strange in the system itself.
try next time with all unecessary items off
like WiFi, GPS, BT anything that you don't use when you go to sleep
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try next time with all unecessary items off
like WiFi, GPS, BT anything that you don't use when you go to sleep
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Thanks, but I've noticed something strange - still checking, but it seems as if I haven't got my SD card inserted, it looks okay...
I use JM5, Wifi Always on, 3G Always on, Auto sync off when unnecessary.
I was working at the polling booths on Election day here in AU, that's from 7:30AM till 11:30PM, I didn't really need to use my phone for anything, but when I got out 16 hours later I noticed that I had only lost about 3-4% battery.
It's pretty good. D:
For the record:
Bluetooth - This only needs to be turned off if there are devices that auto-pair with the phone, such as a bluetooth headset, in which case you probably want it on anyway?
GPS - This does not need to be turned off as it only uses battery when a service is actively requesting a gps fix. For example if you have Maps open it will drain more battery, but it won't on standby unless you are using Location tracking software or otherwise location aware software.
WiFi - Truth to be told, WiFi when connected uses less power than a 3G connection on standby. WiFi does have the potential to use a lot more power than 3G because of the higher speed potential over a local wireless network. In most cases it's pretty safe to have WiFi always on, however it should be noted that when WiFi is NOT connected it will constantly scan for access points to connect to, this process uses power ON TOP of 3G, so it would be wasteful to leave this on unnecessarily unless you were using it for Google Location services via WiFi access points.
3G Data - The only reason this 'uses power' is because it's a always-on connection, you can partially remedy this by giving WiFi always-on priority saving both mobile data quota and some power. 2G uses a lot less power than 3G simply because it uses the GSM chip in the phone, not it's own higher power chip. So switch to 2G if u don't need high speed data, but want always on Push notifications and such. (EDGE is fairly fast, but I only get GPRS and 3G on my carrier. )
Brightness - This phone has a super bright screen, use something in the lower settings, auto brightness at day if you want.
sturmeh said:
I use JM5, Wifi Always on, 3G Always on, Auto sync off when unnecessary.
I was working at the polling booths on Election day here in AU, that's from 7:30AM till 11:30PM, I didn't really need to use my phone for anything, but when I got out 16 hours later I noticed that I had only lost about 3-4% battery.
It's pretty good. D:
For the record:
Bluetooth - This only needs to be turned off if there are devices that auto-pair with the phone, such as a bluetooth headset, in which case you probably want it on anyway?
GPS - This does not need to be turned off as it only uses battery when a service is actively requesting a gps fix. For example if you have Maps open it will drain more battery, but it won't on standby unless you are using Location tracking software or otherwise location aware software.
WiFi - Truth to be told, WiFi when connected uses less power than a 3G connection on standby. WiFi does have the potential to use a lot more power than 3G because of the higher speed potential over a local wireless network. In most cases it's pretty safe to have WiFi always on, however it should be noted that when WiFi is NOT connected it will constantly scan for access points to connect to, this process uses power ON TOP of 3G, so it would be wasteful to leave this on unnecessarily unless you were using it for Google Location services via WiFi access points.
3G Data - The only reason this 'uses power' is because it's a always-on connection, you can partially remedy this by giving WiFi always-on priority saving both mobile data quota and some power. 2G uses a lot less power than 3G simply because it uses the GSM chip in the phone, not it's own higher power chip. So switch to 2G if u don't need high speed data, but want always on Push notifications and such. (EDGE is fairly fast, but I only get GPRS and 3G on my carrier. )
Brightness - This phone has a super bright screen, use something in the lower settings, auto brightness at day if you want.
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I've got bluetooth off all the time, it's currently running a very new install of JM6, and I haven't installed anything that runs when I don't want it to run. 3G isn't used, as wifi is always on (advanced wifi settings).
It's around 7 hours since I pulled the plug, after having restarted phone after removing SD card, and the suspend process isn't even on the list anymore... I find this quite interesting - it might just be a coincidence, but right now it looks like there is some kind of problem with suspend process when SD card is in... Do you have an "external" SD card in your phone?
ive just flashed JM1 and hate how much power its using... no idea what the problem is, but ive just come off the official JM1 from Kies, and had a big problem so had to flash the first thing i could find. can this really be down to firmware?
i mean im really noticing a difference on standby, before id loose like 3-4% in a whole day of not using it, now it drops 10% in like a few hours...
sensi_ said:
ive just flashed JM1 and hate how much power its using... no idea what the problem is, but ive just come off the official JM1 from Kies, and had a big problem so had to flash the first thing i could find. can this really be down to firmware?
i mean im really noticing a difference on standby, before id loose like 3-4% in a whole day of not using it, now it drops 10% in like a few hours...
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Do you have "external" SD card?
i do use 16GB class 6 external SD from Transcent
MoWa22,
I had this happen to me last night and (am stock DXJG04) so very interesting. Trying to remember what my battery drain was last night but I think it was around 10-15% and previously I would get 1% if I turned everything off except being able to receive calls.
I always thought these issues were related to wake locks or that the phone just cannot sleep. Something to try is to reboot the phone and check the battery power before going to sleep and see the battery drain over the night. If minimal battery drain, then maybe it is a rogue app which you may have opened/used during the day. If same 8-10% drain, then am guessing some service or inbuilt process is causing issues.
Half the battle is trying to track the CPU hog or rogue app.
Dang. Lost almost 10% again tonight - but actually the "suspend" process almost didn't use any CPU, SD card still not in phone. Using the built-in battery usage thing, it has cell standby on top, phone idle right below. This is really starting to bother me...
Last night while I turned off APN, Wifi, GPS, etc, I left my phone on as 3G only. I've heard the switch between 3G to 2G causes extra battery drain so I had left the phone on as 3G only. I know 2G is lot less of a battery strain but wonder if it affects cell phone standby. Going to leave my phone on 2G tonight.
I have 3G and sync on. I have weather and feed widgets updated every hour. Plus some other widgets and Google Latitude which I know is using cpu time. My drain is about 1 to 1.2% drain per hour of standby. Firmware DJG4.
I think you dont need to bother too much if battery drains 1-2% per hour on standby (this gives you at least 2-4 days if you use the phone very little). Any more than this means you may have some rouge apps/widgets.
The more critical is the usage time (i.e. with screen on). This is usually like 15-20% drop per hour of use.
Been testing a bit again - this night I had a total of approx. 1% battery used in 9 hours. Still without SD card. I inserted the SD card one hour ago, and I've lost 5-6% already - and suspend process is on top of the list again... Definately something weird going on when SD card is inserted! Please, can anyone test with/without SD card and check for differences?
I spotted this thread and read with interest as last night I noticed my power dropped "unreasonably". I've not started any troubleshooting yet but I am curious about the SD card thing.
Have you tried having the SD card in, but unmounted? Does it still suck powere when unmounted?
Obviously unmounting it is a simpler and quicker process than removing the cover and then physically removing the card.
Mark.
Upgraded to the new Froyo today, seems to be without suspend problems even with SD card. Gotta check how much battery it'll eat during the night.
MoWa22 said:
Upgraded to the new Froyo today, seems to be without suspend problems even with SD card. Gotta check how much battery it'll eat during the night.
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2% drain during the night. Uhm, I like this.
MoWa22 said:
2% drain during the night. Uhm, I like this.
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How did you manage that? Everything off? auto-sync off? Wifi? 3g? 2g?
I'm on jm5 with Samset 1.9f and for all the time ive had this phone it has only used 2% battery overnight. Exceptional cases were when i used Fancy Widget, it ate up all my battery overnight leaving me with nothing for the next day. Have stopped using it ever since.
Nowadays, my battery drains heavily when screen is on(when im using the phone). Drains roughly about 1% for every 2 mins im using it, but standby time is still great at 2% overnight...
Qazz~ said:
I'm on jm5 with Samset 1.9f and for all the time ive had this phone it has only used 2% battery overnight. Exceptional cases were when i used Fancy Widget, it ate up all my battery overnight leaving me with nothing for the next day. Have stopped using it ever since.
Nowadays, my battery drains heavily when screen is on(when im using the phone). Drains roughly about 1% for every 2 mins im using it, but standby time is still great at 2% overnight...
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And do you by any chance run without "external" SD card?
Spybreak said:
How did you manage that? Everything off? auto-sync off? Wifi? 3g? 2g?
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The new Froyo beta JPC. Same settings as always - WiFi always on (which by the way seems to be default setting on JPC). Everything else standard (it won't switch to 3G while using WiFi).
I have a 6 month old Nexus 4 running stock 4.4.2 and for the past 4 days or so it has been dropping its network every time i try to load a page on data (doesnt happen with wifi). it does this constantly until i try to reboot my phone, at which point, if my phone had 80% battery, it will refuse to turn back on unless im hooked up to my charger (and reads 0% battery). Im trying to narrow down the source of the issue, whether its a problem from my network provider or software or hardware. I did a fresh install of 4.4.2 last night and nothing seems to have changed. i also spoke to my network providor (mobinil egypt) and theyre telling me that theres no problem with my service from their end and my sim is only 2 months old and that im on the correct apn. It might be unrelated, but i did start using a mophie juice pack powerstation around the exact same time this issue started.
Any ideas?
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I have a 6 month old Nexus 4 running stock 4.4.2 and for the past 4 days or so it has been dropping its network every time i try to load a page on data (doesnt happen with wifi). it does this constantly until i try to reboot my phone, at which point, if my phone had 80% battery, it will refuse to turn back on unless im hooked up to my charger (and reads 0% battery). Im trying to narrow down the source of the issue, whether its a problem from my network provider or software or hardware. I did a fresh install of 4.4.2 last night and nothing seems to have changed. i also spoke to my network providor (mobinil egypt) and theyre telling me that theres no problem with my service from their end and my sim is only 2 months old. It might be unrelated, but i did start using a mophie juice pack powerstation around the exact same time this issue started.
Any ideas?
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I have the exact same problem on my nexus 4. Was about to post the same. Am also on 4.4.2. Please someone help with a fix !
Today my nexus went dead on 60% and when i plugged it to the charger it show 0% !
no ideas?
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i took some screenshots of my battery stats in case that helps. It shows several network drops throughout the day. the battery died completely on me at approx 65% (and again it refused to turn back on at all until plugged in to a charger, and then surprisingly it showed 50%) i believe i was doing casual browsing on chrome at the time. It died again at 25% when i was trying to take a screenshot of my battery stats, and showed 0% when i got my hands on a charger
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I have a 6 month old Nexus 4 running stock 4.4.2 and for the past 4 days or so it has been dropping its network every time i try to load a page on data (doesnt happen with wifi). it does this constantly until i try to reboot my phone, at which point, if my phone had 80% battery, it will refuse to turn back on unless im hooked up to my charger (and reads 0% battery). Im trying to narrow down the source of the issue, whether its a problem from my network provider or software or hardware. I did a fresh install of 4.4.2 last night and nothing seems to have changed. i also spoke to my network providor (mobinil egypt) and theyre telling me that theres no problem with my service from their end and my sim is only 2 months old and that im on the correct apn. It might be unrelated, but i did start using a mophie juice pack powerstation around the exact same time this issue started.
Any ideas?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-wrong-battery-stats-t2323802
This thread has a lot of people having the same issue where there battery is showing 50-80% and just dies, then upon rebooting it's at 0 power.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/help/nexus-4-wrong-battery-stats-t2323802
This thread has a lot of people having the same issue where there battery is showing 50-80% and just dies, then upon rebooting it's at 0 power.
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not EXACTLY what's happening to me, it doesnt solve my network dropping issue
maryisk said:
I have a 6 month old Nexus 4 running stock 4.4.2 and for the past 4 days or so it has been dropping its network every time i try to load a page on data (doesnt happen with wifi). it does this constantly until i try to reboot my phone, at which point, if my phone had 80% battery, it will refuse to turn back on unless im hooked up to my charger (and reads 0% battery). Im trying to narrow down the source of the issue, whether its a problem from my network provider or software or hardware. I did a fresh install of 4.4.2 last night and nothing seems to have changed. i also spoke to my network providor (mobinil egypt) and theyre telling me that theres no problem with my service from their end and my sim is only 2 months old and that im on the correct apn. It might be unrelated, but i did start using a mophie juice pack powerstation around the exact same time this issue started.
Any ideas?
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Have you tried to flash a different radio (a.k.a: baseband) to see whether that helps. Or try Jelly Bean ROM 4.3 to see if you still have problem with the network.
Hi,
Below you will find some tricks i use to increase standby time and force less resource consumption leading to a better battery life. I have tested all these things a number of times and my device's battery performance is upto the mark when i follow them.
1. Disable Moto tips n tricks in Settings > Motorola privacy > Uncheck Help motorola and Moto care
Everyone by now knows how to use moto apps and their added benifits so there is no need to enable those options. They use data in the background. By turning these off you not only save data but also prevent wake lock leading to better standby.
2. Use active display cleverly
I dont use the option to turn off notifications at night. But all the notifications recieved during my sleep are shown by the active display leading to battery drain even though the device itself is asleep. So, the trick here is to place the phone on its back or put the phone underneath a cushion tricking the proximity sensor into thinking its in a pocket so that active display doesnt show any notifications.
3. Disable motorola security in Settings > Security > Device admin > Motorola device privacy
By default google's android device manager is on which helps to locate device in case of theft. So there is no need to get the same benifit of android device manager by motorola. All it does is use data under google services. Again less data consumption and better standby time.
4. Google location reporting
I dont use google now. And everyone who doesnt should disable google location reporting in Setting > Location > location reporting. If you use google now then it is not a better idea to disable location reporting because it helps to provide info about places nearby but if you dont use google now unchecking location reporting helps to save data and unnecessary wake locks.
5. Retrain Ok google now
If your moto x wakes up to voices not even close to the phrase ok google now in a crowd or a noisy environment then you need to retrain the device. Speak the phrase loud and clear. This helps me to avoid unnecessary wake ups.
6. Check you ram usage under Settings > Apps > Swipe left
This is suggested everywhere but the actual thing to note is the service section. Simple apps like Aviary (photo editor) keep a service running in the background. Remove all such apps. It helps to avoid unnecessary ram use and keep the device smooth after days of use without restart.
7. Battery percentage in status bar for better Screen on time
I use Du battery saver to indicate the battery percentage on the status bar. Weirdly my device would charge slowly but provide way better screen on time. However it behaves normally if i turn of the battery indicator. I have no idea why this happens but i have tested it and this trick works on my device.
8. Turn of scanning when wifi is off
Goto Settings > wifi > in options de select avoid poor signals and scanning always available.
9. Charging with a full signal
Whenever you are charging the device be sure to charge it in a place with full signal. I have noted that when i charge the phone in a room with three signal bars or low it charges slowly as compared to full signal. Although this maybe because of different power sockets but i have tested this on two sockets located at a place where i get one maybe two signal bars and two another sockets where i get full signal. It works for me.
I will update this thread if anything else comes in my mind.
I already do all these (and a lot more actually) and i just barely make it through a day if i don't really use my Moto X (X1056). Love the phone and all but it's battery is not up to snuff at all. Just got tired of spending time babying the battery and now just use my phone. Have a Targus 6000 mAh external battery thingy i keep in my tote bag that comes in handy every now and then.
In my opinion and experience, the 2013 Moto X and great battery life are not synonymous at all. I just deal with it.
I am going to disagree with you. I think the battery performance is way above average. I have attached some screenshots. Check them.
I'll give some of these a try, the problem I usually have is my phone thinks that it is much more dead than it really is. I think this instance it was on 1% for like 8-10 hours.
I do know about the 1 percent bug but i think it to be a hardware problem rather than software. I have a similar problem with my car. The nossle that pours gas in the tank cuts off automatically even when the tank till has the capacity to get 10 litres of petrol in it. The car company told me that the sensor is placed incorrectly in my tank leading the nossle to cut off way before the limit. Similarly the battery circuit may be wired incorrectly but this is just a theory.
Adding to my list of suggestions-
1. Switch to 2g when using wifi
If you use 3g/4g in an area where signal strength is not that high the phone would constantly force its modem to not only maintain a steady signal but also to get maximum signal which causes battery drain. So if you got wifi installed in your home or office, switch to 2g and save battery. Goto Settings > More..> Mobile network > Preferred network type and toggle accordingly.
2. Google + auto back up
Photos app that is a part of google + app automatically backs up all your images on the cloud. Many people are unaware about it and the back up happens in background. This uses a lot data. To cancel this open photos app and in options goto settings and sign out of your account. Some people may use this feature but i dont because it backs up every image stored on the device - whatsapp images, screenshots, viber the list goes on.
3. Google sync
Goto settings and scroll down to your google account. Uncheck all the options which your device doesnt require syncing. Since i dont use google play books tv i keep them unchecked.
KD25 said:
I am going to disagree with you. I think the battery performance is way above average. I have attached some screenshots. Check them.
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Are you running stock? I'm thinking about putting in a warranty claim on my device. I'm currently at 61% battery. 5.5 hours on battery and about an hour screen on time. did use maps for about 5 minutes, but even then, not close to what many other users are getting. I've factory reset multiple times. Don't want to unlock bootloader as it's still under warranty.
Going to call Moto today.
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Are you running stock? I'm thinking about putting in a warranty claim on my device. I'm currently at 61% battery. 5.5 hours on battery and about an hour screen on time. did use maps for about 5 minutes, but even then, not close to what many other users are getting. I've factory reset multiple times. Don't want to unlock bootloader as it's still under warranty.
Going to call Moto today.
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Yes i am running stock. Never rooted never felt the need to. Although i like to tinker devices but within the limit. Before calling in for warranty try disabling google now for a day. I am sure it wont hurt. Also check the times your device got awake in the battery section. The key here is to extend standby time. No one can magically increase on screen time of a device beyond the battery capability but what can be controlled is the standby time. If you arenot using the phone it should be figuratively dead. And seeing the information you provided i can judge your device remains awake. My average run with the battery is about 22 hrs including 4 hr screen on time.
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Yes i am running stock. Never rooted never felt the need to. Although i like to tinker devices but within the limit. Before calling in for warranty try disabling google now for a day. I am sure it wont hurt. Also check the times your device got awake in the battery section. The key here is to extend standby time. No one can magically increase on screen time of a device beyond the battery capability but what can be controlled is the standby time. If you arenot using the phone it should be figuratively dead. And seeing the information you provided i can judge your device remains awake. My average run with the battery is about 22 hrs including 4 hr screen on time.
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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Bro just freez or disable unused app or wont use any booster they also consume lot of memeory and also no need of any antivirus....always try to switch off net when u dont use......or try custom rom
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Ill turn off Google now and see what happens. Here is a screen shot. I was an avid android user the last four years, but have been using and iPhone for the last 8 months (for work). Recently switched back to Android and thought the battery on this device would be great but haven't been happy.
Attaching a couple screen shots. Have less than a couple weeks to submit warranty so don't have a lot of time. I'll give it a day with Now off and see what happens.
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After watching the screenshot i suggest you switch to 3g. Your device is getting poor 4g coverage which is the only reason for heavy battery drain.
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After watching the screenshot i suggest you switch to 3g. Your device is getting poor 4g coverage which is the only reason for heavy battery drain.
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How do you do that? I didn't' think you could if you used a GSM provider and I'm on T-Mobile.
Nick
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How do you do that? I didn't' think you could if you used a GSM provider and I'm on T-Mobile.
Nick
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Well in my country moto x is sold unlocked. We dont have carrier contracts. So we get the option to switch in Settings > More > Mobile networks > Preferred network type. Not sure about your phone.
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Well in my country moto x is sold unlocked. We dont have carrier contracts. So we get the option to switch in Settings > More > Mobile networks > Preferred network type. Not sure about your phone.
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Thanks - tried that. My only options are Automatic and 2G only. No option between 3G and 4G. I usually have better signal, but I'm in my basement working from home today. When that's the case should I switch to 2G? Signal is the same. I guess I could turn off mobile data when I'm home and on Wifi. However, if I'm on wifi, do I need to worry about that or does being on Wifi turn off mobile data? It's been awhile for me.
I really just want to make it through the day on a charge. I normally only have a couple hours screen on time, but even now, I'm lucky to get ten hours. took your advice and turned off Google Now. I'll see how the second half of the battery goes.
Nick
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Thanks - tried that. My only options are Automatic and 2G only. No option between 3G and 4G. I usually have better signal, but I'm in my basement working from home today. When that's the case should I switch to 2G? Signal is the same. I guess I could turn off mobile data when I'm home and on Wifi. However, if I'm on wifi, do I need to worry about that or does being on Wifi turn off mobile data? It's been awhile for me.
I really just want to make it through the day on a charge. I normally only have a couple hours screen on time, but even now, I'm lucky to get ten hours. took your advice and turned off Google Now. I'll see how the second half of the battery goes.
Nick
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When i switch to 2g i never lose a signal bar. Never. So if you see yourself in a situation like today where signal is low i strongly suggest you to use 2g. Since you are connected to wifi your modem doesnt need to pull data. I get that people want atleast a day's battery life out of their phone but this hassle of 3g 4g is really what bogs down battery life. Another thing to lookout for is location reporting. Since you have turned off google now turn off location reporting as well.
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When i switch to 2g i never lose a signal bar. Never. So if you see yourself in a situation like today where signal is low i strongly suggest you to use 2g. Since you are connected to wifi your modem doesnt need to pull data. I get that people want atleast a day's battery life out of their phone but this hassle of 3g 4g is really what bogs down battery life. Another thing to lookout for is location reporting. Since you have turned off google now turn off location reporting as well.
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Thanks for all your help. I went ahead turned mobile data off since I'm home. I'll keep an eye on signal and try to use Wifi when I can. I do have location reporting off (I only use it when I need GPS, which isn't too often).
When I switch to 2G, my signal remains the same. Does that sound right? Or is 2g just going to use less power, regardless of signal?
Nick
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Thanks for all your help. I went ahead turned mobile data off since I'm home. I'll keep an eye on signal and try to use Wifi when I can. I do have location reporting off (I only use it when I need GPS, which isn't too often).
When I switch to 2G, my signal remains the same. Does that sound right? Or is 2g just going to use less power, regardless of signal?
Nick
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I definately see change in signal strength when i toggle between 3g/2g. And yes 2g uses way less power. Again i am not sure why you are getting the same signal on 2g.
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I definately see change in signal strength when i toggle between 3g/2g. And yes 2g uses way less power. Again i am not sure why you are getting the same signal on 2g.
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Thanks again for all your help! Closer to 11 hours in and around 45%. Only lost about 15% in last 4ish hours versus 35% in first 5. Turned off Google Now and switched to 2g when on WiFi. Location is also off. Guessing guys that get 4+ hours SOT are doing the same. Bit of a pain to have to toggle between 2g and 4g. I'm guessing I can download a widget to make it easier.
Anyway, you rock.
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I am going to disagree with you. I think the battery performance is way above average. I have attached some screenshots. Check them.
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Whether you agree with me or disagree with me is irrelevant. At the end of the day, it is MY experience, and what I experience using MY Moto X. Is it improbable that we both have dissimilar experiences and usage scenarios?
those are some nice suggestions, but some of your paths were not found (e.g. Motorola Privacy).
regardless,
a.) there is already a battery life thread
b.) battery life is going to be what you make of it, and there are numerous variables - even within the same country or carrier
but if you are going to report your battery life experience, be sure to give full detail so that folks can make an apples-to-apples comparison. For example, below are mine for a typical weekday:
carrier: VZW (maryland)
off charger time: 16 hours (6am - 10pm)
wifi: on all the time (about 6 hours connected to wifi)
mobile data: set to Global and on all the time (about 10 hours connected to mobile data - no wifi connection)
bluetooth: on all the time (and connected to Moto 360 watch, with 1 hour total connected to my car)
location services: on all the time
touchless control: on
active display: on
google now hotword detection: on
GPS: battery saving mode
root: yes
unlocked bootloader: yes (although this REALLY shouldn't make a difference, but I have noticed worse battery life after unlocking - could be due to after a reboot, the system does not revert back???)
system partition: DALVIK
ROM: Krypton 4.4.4 or stock 4.4.4
total screen on time: ~2 hours
battery saving apps: greenify
other apps: Xposed with gravity box
prior to the 4.4.4 update, I would get 3 hours easily, now I barely hit 2. my reason for leaving everything on is that I like to have my day/life as seamless as possible. i don't want to have to worry about turning on/off wifi/bluetooth or any other features. a smartphone should be usable for at least 24 hours with at least 2 hours of SOT without having to tinker with it all day.
hope this helps.
Hi,
The Nexus 6P has been pretty good so far on battery. Nothing super insane, but enough to get me through a day.
Max I get is 3 hours SOT when I hit 0%...
Android OS is usually in the top 3, and in a 10 hour day, its getting 2 hours of Keep Awake time and about 30min Mobile Radio Active.
Google Play Services is also getting around 45min Mobile Radio Active as well.
Phone is bone stock, bootloader locked, unrooted. Running a handful of apps, even stopped using my Moto360 and disabled bluetooth when not in use to see if that was the culprit.
Any tips? (or apps that help me delve deeper into Android OS and why it keeps waking the thing up)
would also like to know about this, having very similar stats
Similar situation here - crazy battery drain and "Keep Awake" when I have a sim card in (TMo). 3 hours sitting on my desk - not using it - the phone gets warm/hot and Keep Awake shows 1H 16m under Android OS. When I put the same sim back into my Nexus 5 (using the adapter/converter) the N5 battery is perfectly fine.. normal.. no massive drain.
Any thoughts?
Turn off Wifi and give it a try. See if you still have the same battery drain.
pogul said:
Similar situation here - crazy battery drain and "Keep Awake" when I have a sim card in (TMo). 3 hours sitting on my desk - not using it - the phone gets warm/hot and Keep Awake shows 1H 16m under Android OS. When I put the same sim back into my Nexus 5 (using the adapter/converter) the N5 battery is perfectly fine.. normal.. no massive drain.
Any thoughts?
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Go into location & uncheck all scanning functions
Thanks. I should have mentioned that I already had wifi and bt turned off, and had turned off scanning for both under Locations. I was trying to isolate this to cell signal as best I could by disabling wifi and bt things. I also tried turning off "Enhanced LTE" - and now I'm trying it with wifi calling on (again just to narrow down different possibilities).
I think a factory reset is in my near future - may as well start from completely scratch and see if I still get the same horrible battery drain.
Just reporting back. I did a factory reset - and INITIALLY I thought I was on to something. Battery life seemed better at first, but then I soon began dropping cell signal - which apparently sends the phone off searching for signal chewing up battery.
In my case it's never ending cycle - get signal, drop, search, get signal, drop search.
Yes, I'm in a fairly weak TMo LTE service area, but my Nexus 5 and my wife's Nexus 4 have never had these sort of massive drain issues.
Also, I was in a major metro area on Sat night and the signal kept dropping as well. I couldn't toggle it back on via airplane mode or the mobile data switch. I finally had to reboot to bring it back - and then it proceeded to drop again. Meanwhile, my wife's N4 had no issues.
I went to TMo on Sunday and swapped out the sim - no change. 6P went from fully charged to completely dead overnight (roughly 1AM to 9AM).
So, at this point I'm wondering if I just have a faulty 6P. I'll be calling Google today to see about an RMA exchange :/
pogul said:
Just reporting back. I did a factory reset - and INITIALLY I thought I was on to something. Battery life seemed better at first, but then I soon began dropping cell signal - which apparently sends the phone off searching for signal chewing up battery.
In my case it's never ending cycle - get signal, drop, search, get signal, drop search.
Yes, I'm in a fairly weak TMo LTE service area, but my Nexus 5 and my wife's Nexus 4 have never had these sort of massive drain issues.
Also, I was in a major metro area on Sat night and the signal kept dropping as well. I couldn't toggle it back on via airplane mode or the mobile data switch. I finally had to reboot to bring it back - and then it proceeded to drop again. Meanwhile, my wife's N4 had no issues.
I went to TMo on Sunday and swapped out the sim - no change. 6P went from fully charged to completely dead overnight (roughly 1AM to 9AM).
So, at this point I'm wondering if I just have a faulty 6P. I'll be calling Google today to see about an RMA exchange :/
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Maybe try activating band 12?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/fastboot-activate-band-12-volte-t3239652
I found that my wifi network was causing doze to not work as good. I turned off wifi at night last night and got better results with just data.
My radio is accounting for 88% percent of my phones battery drain. I was down to 60 percent with about an hour of SoT. Not sure what's going on with my device either. I was about to factory reset but don't want to.
Bums me out when I see people getting 4+ hours. I want that action.
I had the mobile active bug also, very close to getting an iPhone.
I saw in another thread that apps like GasBuddy has been causing wake locks like you describe. The issue may be app related. Rooting and installing a battery monitor app should give you more insight as well as wiping and loading just your basic apps to find the culprit because something is definitely wrong.
I get 6 hr SOT without doing anything special and at night I lose 1%, sometimes none if I only sleep for 5hrs and that's with wifi on.
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I keep seeing a huge battery drain from "cell standby" and "bluetooth".
I have wi-fi on all the time, I use bluetooth only when driving (no streaming), and I tried Greenify with no improvement.
Are there any known bugs with this? I am running 6.0.1 on T-Mobile.
priapism said:
I keep seeing a huge battery drain from "cell standby" and "bluetooth".
I have wi-fi on all the time, I use bluetooth only when driving (no streaming), and I tried Greenify with no improvement.
Are there any known bugs with this? I am running 6.0.1 on T-Mobile.
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I rarely use bluetooth but I do have high cell standby like yours. I also have no idea why since it happened to other androids out there even on nexuses and it seems started since lollipop. my guess is, it happened in previous android versions but not displayed until lollipop. I don't care much about it now since I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT within 2 days of usage which is great, at least for me.
I get about 2.5 hrs SOT and have to top up in the evenings pretty often. For a 48-hour rated phone, I feel like something's not right.
What kind of bike is that?
priapism said:
I get about 2.5 hrs SOT and have to top up in the evenings pretty often. For a 48-hour rated phone, I feel like something's not right.
What kind of bike is that?
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Judging from your screenshot, it looks like the phone was struggling with cell signal strength. This is one of the main battery drainer other than gps and playing games. When the signal strength is low, the phone increases the radio power to get better reception, thus draining battery faster.
it's a suzuki gsx650f
Same issue with mine as well, battery drains like hell from this bug but tower is always full. I use vodafone.
This did happen to me in the last one week. I got only 3.5 hrs screen on time, however my phone went three days without charge (I didn't use it much anyway, was busy with work). Checked BetterBatteryStats on my phone and it showed the poor mobile signal to be one of the major battery drainers. It's weird because until 10 days back I never had this poor mobile signal reception.
3.5 hours SOT within 3 days is considered great already. Some phones barely last a day with that amount of SOT.
i've also had this problem since i bought this phone. My mobile standby is always over 10-15% when the signal is always full and there is never a single bar drop. I've tried switching to 2g/3g/4g but problem persists every time. I've also tried many custom roms but this problem remains. I think this has to do something with hardware of this phone. I cant even get it replaced or repaired at service centre since i've rooted and unlocked boot loader. If anybody finds a solution please post. It will be much appreciated.
I also had this problem initially.To get rid of this problem put your phone in airplane mode for few minutes,then turn your mobile network on.For the bluetooth issue,go to settings - location - three dots top right - scanning - uncheck WiFi and Bluetooth.
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I also had this problem initially.To get rid of this problem put your phone in airplane mode for few minutes,then turn your mobile network on.For the bluetooth issue,go to settings - location - three dots top right - scanning - uncheck WiFi and Bluetooth.
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thanks a lot man. this actually solved the problem, I would have never though the solution was so easy, although I have to repeat the procedure with every reboot but its still better than nothing. I do hope devs come up with a permanent solution to this issue.