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Help? A few uncommon problems

Ok so I received my Vibrant on Monday and so far I am in love with it. Their are three things that bug me, however.
1. Battery Life is TERRIBLE. I know, I know-This has been discussed before but I did everything the other threads said and still no difference. On my phone, I will leave it on standby and it will drop 8 percent in like an hour and a half. Somethings wrong. Also, If I play the Sims for two hours (like I did today) my battery goes from 98% down to 45%. Is this normal?
Just to point out what I have going on with my phone:
- Brightness is turned down COMPLETELY. Automatic brightness is turned OFF.
- 3G is always on. Could this be the culprit?
- I have a completely black background.
- Last I checked, it said my display was taking up 60-70% of my battery usage.
- As stated above, Sims DRAINS my battery. Either somethings up with my phone or Samsung should have made sure the Sims doesnt kill the device.
2. The second I take my phone off the charger, the battery goes from 100% to 98%. Can I fix this? Its kind of annoying...
3. Problem with the Sims. Im not sure if any of you have this issue, but whenever I tell my Sim to watch TV, the app shuts down and takes me back to my home screen. Any idea why its happening?

alecjake said:
Ok so I received my Vibrant on Monday and so far I am in love with it. Their are three things that bug me, however.
1. Battery Life is TERRIBLE. I know, I know-This has been discussed before but I did everything the other threads said and still no difference. On my phone, I will leave it on standby and it will drop 8 percent in like an hour and a half. Somethings wrong. Also, If I play the Sims for two hours (like I did today) my battery goes from 98% down to 45%. Is this normal?
Just to point out what I have going on with my phone:
- Brightness is turned down COMPLETELY. Automatic brightness is turned OFF.
- 3G is always on. Could this be the culprit?
- I have a completely black background.
- Last I checked, it said my display was taking up 60-70% of my battery usage.
- As stated above, Sims DRAINS my battery. Either somethings up with my phone or Samsung should have made sure the Sims doesnt kill the device.
2. The second I take my phone off the charger, the battery goes from 100% to 98%. Can I fix this? Its kind of annoying...
3. Problem with the Sims. Im not sure if any of you have this issue, but whenever I tell my Sim to watch TV, the app shuts down and takes me back to my home screen. Any idea why its happening?
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1. Leaving a phone in 3G all the time is not a good idea, if you have WiFi near you you can connect to I'd use WiFi instead, it has less battery drain then the antenna that is constantly searching for 3G signal - unless you are in the area with bulletproof 3G coverage of course.
2. It seems like this bug is common 100% jumps to 98% once you unplug the charger, are there really any accurate battery meters on the market?
3. Can't help you there, not playing the game on my phone.
HTH

lqaddict said:
1. Leaving a phone in 3G all the time is not a good idea, if you have WiFi near you you can connect to I'd use WiFi instead, it has less battery drain then the antenna that is constantly searching for 3G signal - unless you are in the area with bulletproof 3G coverage of course.
2. It seems like this bug is common 100% jumps to 98% once you unplug the charger, are there really any accurate battery meters on the market?
3. Can't help you there, not playing the game on my phone.
HTH
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alright thanks. im in phoenix here so i am almost always in a 3G area. I guess i'll leave it on since i rarely dont have 3G

I also read on multiple forums including HoFo that 3G generally consumes more energy then WiFi.

sims 3 fix
so my girlfriend was complaining about sims crashing when she watched tv or relaxed on the couch. i fixed this by moving both the sims launcher app and the sims game app to data/app.

I normally use Edge simply because I don't need Wifi or 3G on unless I'm doing some heavy data transferring.
Currently I'm at 61% battery, which means my phone has been off the charger for 16hours. Its not a fluke either because its just normal use for me. I normally take my phone off the charger at 6am and I plug it back in around 11pm.
Prolonged GPS, Wifi and 3G will eat your battery. I'm not saying don't use the services, but you give up one for the other. I personally like to have awesome battery usage until I'm out and about and really need to use my phone.

I'd recommend you call T-Mobile customer service and have them diagnose the problems you are having and issue a replacement if necessary.
Based on my experience, battery life is excellent, probably the best I've seen in any smartphone in this category. Battery usually last easily through the day with heavy use, including:
- having 3G on all the time (and frequently switching to edge and back)
- 2 email accounts using push (gmail and exchange)
- gps on all the time
- google latitude running all the time
- facebook and twitter sync'ing every hour
- fancy widget sync'ing every two hours
- Newsroom harvesting 12 news sites in the background
- occasional picture (3 or 4) a day
- web browsing and searching
- xda app for reading and replying to this forum.
- bluetooth is always on
- wifi is on from 8 pm on.
I charge the phone through the night, unplug it at 8 am, return home at 8 pm and put it to charge around 11 pm, with still 50%. Brightness is set to auto. Phone is not rooted or modified in any way.
You bought a high end phone that should perform as such. You are supposed to get the most out of your phone, not turn off its features. I wouldn't listen to those who claim you should turn off everything and dim the screen. What's next, not using the phone to preserve batteries?
That's just my two cents.
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Cell Standby

So for the past week and a half my G2 battery started draining super fast and it seems that the cell standby is the problem.
If I reboot the phone and have it on for 10mins cell standby time will show time on being 20mins. How is it searching for a signal an extra 50% of the time when it hasn't been on?
Also it will show that I have been without a signal for 50% of the time the phone has been on when I've never lost signal at all.
So the point of this thread is to see if I have a defective device so I can get it replaced. If anyone can help me out and post their Cell Standby times and Time Without signal percentages after a reboot and/or after a days use I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that had that problem. I had literally the EXACT same problem you are having, and exchanging my phone for a new one fixed it. My cell standby with that phone was in upwards of 79% and averaged 50% without a signal according to that screen. The new phone sits anywhere from 14-40% cell standby, and although there is definitely something wrong with how the radio on this handles signals, I don't get dropped calls anymore and it spends 0% of the time without a signal.
Another problem I had, and am still having, is that data connections just drop with no warning and I have to either wait forever for it to figure it out (there are no indicators of this status in the task bar, however nothing data wise will load) or put in in and out of airplane mode to reestablish a connection. I know plenty of others who have this issue as well and wonder if you do too.
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I did some checking around with other people that have Android phones as well (not just the G2) and they do not have this problem either. The good news is T-Mobile is sending a replacement because this unit is in fact a defect. Thank you Gwanatu for posting.

Guys, can you tell me how to see this cell standby info? I got mine yesterday and the disconnects are starting to irritate me. Behaves identically to my Nexus, up arrow stays for a looong time, up to a min until it starts receiving data.
Still agonizing about replacing my Nexus, so if these disconnects are a G2 "feature" as well, then I'll just go back...
Thanks
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fosormic said:
Guys, can you tell me how to see this cell standby info? I got mine yesterday and the disconnects are starting to irritate me. Behaves identically to my Nexus, up arrow stays for a looong time, up to a min until it starts receiving data.
Still agonizing about replacing my Nexus, so if these disconnects are a G2 "feature" as well, then I'll just go back...
Thanks
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Settings>About Phone>Battery Use>Cell Standby.
A T-Mobile rep told me they are using new/different type sim cards for smart phones and that could be a possible issue if you are using an older one. Mine was about 5-6yrs old.

My cell standby is at 58% and time witout a signal is 50%...
Did a quick google search and found the airplane mode trick
1. Plug in phone charger
2. Put phone in Airplane mode
3. Put phone to sleep for a minute
4. Turn off airplane mode
5. Unplug phone
I did this and now my cell standby is at 14% and time without a signal is at 3%

fwiw my cell standby is 21% since last reboot days ago.

I do not have php and it is well past 15 days...airplane trick no longer works...still sitting @ 41% cell standby...don't know what else to do
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Does any one think a factory reset and training the OS would help?
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ive noticed the cell standby % being higher than it was on my nexus one. cell standby is typically the highest % item in my battery use list (my nexus was always the damn screen sucking up power). if i click it it shows the % time without a cell signal. for me, its always been 0% whenever i check so im not losing signal ever it seems. my battery life is actually quite awesome with this phone so it doesnt seem to be affecting anything really. maybe it has to due with the fact that this phone's SoC is a smaller fabrication and more efficient? that might make other stuff appear to use more power compared to older phones that had less efficient SoC's. just a thought

I just in stalled Screebl lite app. Basicly keeps the phone from going off. Once installed my cell standy by went from 37% to 12%. Can any one else confirm the same results?
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My cell standy was running at 60+% with no signal running 50%. I did the online chat with Customer Care, and she ended up saying they were going to replace the phone. Funny part is that during the troubleshooting, I pulled the battery for a few minutes, and since then, cell standby has been 39%, with 0 lost signal time. I don't know what that did, but battery life has increased a ton. And a replacement is on the way...may try it for a few days, but this is working fine, so not sure I am going to exchange.

Getting 10% Battery Drain/Hour - And Everything is Turned Off!

So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.

Keep on them to get that one replaced. Something in your hardware is definitely borked.
Even running WiFi hotspot, I don't see anywhere near that kind of drain (50%/hour). At the very worst, my idle drain was about 9%/hour.
This is not a good thing.

KneeDragr said:
So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
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You need to make sure your old battery is calibrated to your new phone.
1 - install CWM recovery.
2 - tonight when you go to bed, power off your phone (power off is not screen off). Plug in your charger and charge overnight, USB charging prefered over wall power charging.
3 - in the morning when 100% charged battery is indicated, boot first into CWM recovery and wipe battery stats, after which boot back into Android then you can check for battery longevity again.

beray5 said:
You need to make sure your old battery is calibrated to your new phone.
1 - install CWM recovery.
2 - tonight when you go to bed, power off your phone (power off is not screen off). Plug in your charger and charge overnight, USB charging prefered over wall power charging.
3 - in the morning when 100% charged battery is indicated, boot first into CWM recovery and wipe battery stats, after which boot back into Android then you can check for battery longevity again.
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Wiping battery stats seems to be a placebo effect. For anyone with serious drain (several % per hour), wiping battery stats does nothing. Its a shame so many threads are corrupted with this misunderstanding when there are other very real sources of battery drain on froyo ROMS.

Scrappy1 said:
Wiping battery stats seems to be a placebo effect. For anyone with serious drain (several % per hour), wiping battery stats does nothing. Its a shame so many threads are corrupted with this misunderstanding when there are other very real sources of battery drain on froyo ROMS.
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It's perfectly normal for some people that wiping batterystats.bin did nothing useful, it's also perfectly normal for others to loose 1/3 of battery capacity from being uncalibrated.
It's definitely perfectly normal for some to loose 10% per hour from being uncalibrated.
This kind of variance often confused people.

After doing some experiments, I think its Froyo.
The reason is I turned off mobile data and the battery only drained 2% in 3 hours. Then I recorded some vids of my daughter and played them back with her and over those 3 hours it only dropped 6%. Seems pretty reasonable. I know in my original post I said I had mobile data off, but I realized I actually hadnt, sorry for the confusion.
So I turned on WiFi and GPS overnight and it only dropped 4% overnight.
So something in Froyo is sucking down huge amounts of battery when mobile data is turned on.
Or its still possible its hardware related, that the data radio runs non stop when its turned on, just seems unlikely.
A guy at work suggested turning off data roaming and turning back on mobile data and seeing what it did.

I've had my phone draining at about 10% per hour before, never did figure out what caused the problem. But I flashed back to stock (following the instructions to get ED01 by flashing back to DL09 and then running the update.zips), and that seems to have fixed it. Since 2.2, I've stayed largely stock - stock kernel and just debloated the stock rom. So far, that's what I've found to give the best battery life for me - 48 hours on a charge on average.
Few things to do/keep in mind:
Clearing the battery stats might not solve the problem, but it can't hurt. Charge the phone to 100%, then turn it off but leave it on the charger. Once the powered off battery indicator on the screen shows 100%, boot into CWM and wipe battery stats. Take it off the charger, turn it on and use it normally until the battery gets down to 5% or below. Charge it back up and you're good to go.
Also, give it a few days/battery cycles to come up to full capacity. I seem to notice shorter battery life immediately after a wipe, but after a few days, it's back to the normal 2 days or so between charges.

KneeDragr said:
After doing some experiments, I think its Froyo.
The reason is I turned off mobile data and the battery only drained 2% in 3 hours. Then I recorded some vids of my daughter and played them back with her and over those 3 hours it only dropped 6%. Seems pretty reasonable.
So I turned on WiFi and GPS overnight and it only dropped 4% overnight.
So something in Froyo is sucking down huge amounts of battery when mobile data is turned on.
Or its still possible its hardware related, that the data radio runs non stop when its turned on, just seems unlikely.
A guy at work suggested turning off data roaming and turning back on mobile data and seeing what it did.
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Definitely seem to be software problem instead of hardware, I suggest leaving everything on -Wifi, GPS, bluetooth, etc... and disable all data sync only one at a time to check for power usage.

KneeDragr said:
After doing some experiments, I think its Froyo.
The reason is I turned off mobile data and the battery only drained 2% in 3 hours. Then I recorded some vids of my daughter and played them back with her and over those 3 hours it only dropped 6%. Seems pretty reasonable.
So I turned on WiFi and GPS overnight and it only dropped 4% overnight.
So something in Froyo is sucking down huge amounts of battery when mobile data is turned on.
Or its still possible its hardware related, that the data radio runs non stop when its turned on, just seems unlikely.
A guy at work suggested turning off data roaming and turning back on mobile data and seeing what it did.
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Load up Spare parts and see what it says in Battery History. Under 'Other Usage', it should show that running is less than 100% (depending on your usage patterns, this could read anywhere from 10-90%, but it should never show 100%). Do this after having been unplugged for a while.
If running shows 100%, you have a wake lock, which is forcing the phone to be awake 100% of the time, rather than sleeping and using much less power.
You can use dumpsys power from an su terminal or adb to look and see if you have any locks.
If no locks show up, and running still shows 100% (or even if it doesn't) with mobile data on, then there's definitely something wrong with the data radio, and you should have it swapped.
Don't accept any other answer from either phone CSR or in-store rep. No matter how they try and excuse it, constant 10%/hour and up to 50%/hour drain is completely abnormal.

Ok this is what spare parts says
Running 5.2%
Screen On 3.1%
Phone On 0.5%
Wifi On 77.2%
Wifi running 55.6%

Try this, it will tell you what it causing the drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13534133&postcount=23

KneeDragr said:
Ok this is what spare parts says
Running 5.2%
Screen On 3.1%
Phone On 0.5%
Wifi On 77.2%
Wifi running 55.6%
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Is that with Mobile Data on? Are you still seeing 10%+/hour drain with those stats?
If you're seeing that kind of running time (which is good), and you're still getting huge drain (which is bad), then your phone is broken and needs to be replaced.

KneeDragr said:
So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
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AlexDeGruven said:
Is that with Mobile Data on? Are you still seeing 10%+/hour drain with those stats?
If you're seeing that kind of running time (which is good), and you're still getting huge drain (which is bad), then your phone is broken and needs to be replaced.
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Thats total since all time.
So I had the phone all weekend with wifi and mobile data on, then one day with wifi off, then one day with wifi on, mobile data off.
But the battery was consumed the most with everything on, but still very high with wifi off and mobile data on.
Unfortunately a refurbished phone must be returned within 14 days if there is a problem with it. The remaining time on the 1 year warranty is voided.

just use stock rom DI01package3.tar.md5 and battery is very good for me

KneeDragr said:
Thats total since all time.
So I had the phone all weekend with wifi and mobile data on, then one day with wifi off, then one day with wifi on, mobile data off.
But the battery was consumed the most with everything on, but still very high with wifi off and mobile data on.
Unfortunately a refurbished phone must be returned within 14 days if there is a problem with it. The remaining time on the 1 year warranty is voided.
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According to the OP, you've had it for 5 days as of yesterday, which leaves you a full week+ to get it swapped again.

KneeDragr said:
So somehow my phone did not like the Froyo update, would not boot after install or even a factory wipe.
So Verizon swapped it for a refurbished one, Ive had it for 5 days.
It had 2.2 installed when I got it. However the phone is almost useless for me now, It wont last a full day with nothing on, no GPS, no WiFi, no mobile data, no apps running, only turning it on once or twice during the day to check things and each time I do the battery draining like crazy!
I used to get 5 days out of my old phone, literally, because I am not a big user. I actually did play with the phone the day after I received it, to personalize it, and I drained 50% of the battery in an hour!
This is the same battery as in my phone, you dont get a new battery with the replacement.
I think its a hardware problem with the phone, but a guy at work says its just the 2.2 update, that it slams the battery.
Im going to take it back to Verizon tomorrow and see what they will do for me. If they wont fix this, I will simply revert back to my old flip phone since it lasts 5 days and cancel my data plan.
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50% in an hour.. even if u use it the whole time is ridicuoulous.. prob a junk batt.. what are batt temps getting to??

There is a setting in the WiFi area to have the WIFI automatically turn off when the phones screen turns off, you may want to look into it

hongha_222 said:
just use stock rom DI01package3.tar.md5 and battery is very good for me
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who would actually want to do that.. dude froyo is a million times better.. i get 12-18 hours on heavy use, wifi, data, gps auto rotate all one.. running comm v1.3..
ov c to 1.3
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sio schedualer
amazing performance great bat life runz like a dream!!

I just want to report that I've been having similar experiences, and in my case it seems associated with signal strength.
If I'm at home all day (where signal is good, and I'm on wi-fi), my battery life is pretty good. Not as good as it was on 2.1, but acceptable.
But if I'm out driving around, or in a place where the 3G signal is weaker (maybe 2 bars or less, but I haven't really verified that), my phone gets uncomfortably warm in my pocket, and battery usage becomes horrible. I've had the phone drain from full charge to 20% or so in less than two hours.
This problem never happened before I flashed the DL30 Froyo leak. Since then, it has happened on every Froyo ROM I've run, including official ED01 and the community ROM.

Cell standby / bluetooth battery drain?

I keep seeing a huge battery drain from "cell standby" and "bluetooth".
I have wi-fi on all the time, I use bluetooth only when driving (no streaming), and I tried Greenify with no improvement.
Are there any known bugs with this? I am running 6.0.1 on T-Mobile.

priapism said:
I keep seeing a huge battery drain from "cell standby" and "bluetooth".
I have wi-fi on all the time, I use bluetooth only when driving (no streaming), and I tried Greenify with no improvement.
Are there any known bugs with this? I am running 6.0.1 on T-Mobile.
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I rarely use bluetooth but I do have high cell standby like yours. I also have no idea why since it happened to other androids out there even on nexuses and it seems started since lollipop. my guess is, it happened in previous android versions but not displayed until lollipop. I don't care much about it now since I'm getting around 6 hours of SOT within 2 days of usage which is great, at least for me.

I get about 2.5 hrs SOT and have to top up in the evenings pretty often. For a 48-hour rated phone, I feel like something's not right.
What kind of bike is that?

priapism said:
I get about 2.5 hrs SOT and have to top up in the evenings pretty often. For a 48-hour rated phone, I feel like something's not right.
What kind of bike is that?
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Judging from your screenshot, it looks like the phone was struggling with cell signal strength. This is one of the main battery drainer other than gps and playing games. When the signal strength is low, the phone increases the radio power to get better reception, thus draining battery faster.
it's a suzuki gsx650f

Same issue with mine as well, battery drains like hell from this bug but tower is always full. I use vodafone.

This did happen to me in the last one week. I got only 3.5 hrs screen on time, however my phone went three days without charge (I didn't use it much anyway, was busy with work). Checked BetterBatteryStats on my phone and it showed the poor mobile signal to be one of the major battery drainers. It's weird because until 10 days back I never had this poor mobile signal reception.

3.5 hours SOT within 3 days is considered great already. Some phones barely last a day with that amount of SOT.

i've also had this problem since i bought this phone. My mobile standby is always over 10-15% when the signal is always full and there is never a single bar drop. I've tried switching to 2g/3g/4g but problem persists every time. I've also tried many custom roms but this problem remains. I think this has to do something with hardware of this phone. I cant even get it replaced or repaired at service centre since i've rooted and unlocked boot loader. If anybody finds a solution please post. It will be much appreciated.

I also had this problem initially.To get rid of this problem put your phone in airplane mode for few minutes,then turn your mobile network on.For the bluetooth issue,go to settings - location - three dots top right - scanning - uncheck WiFi and Bluetooth.

effingbadluck said:
I also had this problem initially.To get rid of this problem put your phone in airplane mode for few minutes,then turn your mobile network on.For the bluetooth issue,go to settings - location - three dots top right - scanning - uncheck WiFi and Bluetooth.
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thanks a lot man. this actually solved the problem, I would have never though the solution was so easy, although I have to repeat the procedure with every reboot but its still better than nothing. I do hope devs come up with a permanent solution to this issue.

Phone Idle under Settings/Battery

What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.

VDoubleUVR6 said:
What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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Factory reset it

czerdrill said:
Factory reset it
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Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...

VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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I agree with you. Although my phone is just beyond a week old and does have all my apps installed, a factory reset can't be the solution here. This is the typical "I don't know how to fix this" answer always given by manufacturers and carriers.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.

VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.

Make sure Google now features are all turned off and not running in the background.

tourbound129 said:
In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
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I'll have to go through the apps one by one like I did previously on my G3 and see. Now within the battery stats there is only a handful of apps like hangout, play music, chrome and camera. The rest is OS related so that's why I was curious what ran under Phone Idle.
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
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No and sadly I was looking for that feature a week ago but couldn't find it so I had to individually install most of my apps I had on my previous phone...made for a long night along with the additional emails and configuration or icons and such.
I'll keep digging away at the phone...I really want to like this phone ?

Has there been a definitive resolution to "phone idle" battery drain? I just got a V20 2 weeks ago on sale for $360 and its a fantastic upgrade over the One+1 I've been rockin all these years, but I'm also suffering from mediocre life due to whatever phone idle is. Some forums (for other phones) say phone idle is related to your wireless signal. I'm still with the same carrier and frequenting the same locations and had no such battery drain with that old One+.

i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off

Go to locations/ 3 dots in top right corner/ turn off WiFi scan. See if that helps.

My phone has been suffering from poor battery life for quite some time now, here are the screenshots, Android OS has been this high on almost all battery cycles.
I disabled wifi scanning as suggested above and will watch the performance, does the community have any other inputs to fix this? View attachment 4212978View attachment 4212979
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Phone idle is always the biggest battery draw on my phone too. I have minimal apps too. No Facebook or similar types of apps. I'm on a Verizon V20 stock with the latest security update. Is this normal V20 behavior to have phone idle consume more battery than everything else?

how about doze mode , isnt that meant to help with this sort of problem ? ( my phone is currently on a ship )

Any update. İ have the same problem

andreqf said:
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
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So what did you do?

Would also be grateful if anyone shared a solution.
I specifically have a SIM-unlocked Sprint model (LS997) which am using in Europe with another carrier.
Using it in LTE preferred mode drains about 10-15% overnight.
Using it in WCDMA preferred mode drains up to 5% per night (yes, wifi and cellular data OFF and many apps greenified) . So I'm really interested in how this can be fixed and achieve 0% battery drain across several hours.
Or maybe it's SIM-unlocked Sprint ROM related?? I can't root my phone since it has the Feb 2017 patch and is a ZV6.
I suspect rooting it and using another ROM would solve this + the annoying issue of not being able to send images via FB Messenger and Viber while on cellular data (I imagine the Sprint guys placed some kind of restriction to deny media transfer for these apps when using cellular data).

I have noticed this too.. wondered why "phone idle" takes most battery... any suggestions would be great!

I am also curious about the solution. Phone Idle is at top. Even without SIM card. 30% drains during a night (everything is disabled, but no airplane mode is on). I tried factory reset, reinstall older ROM, replace battery, use no app but still sucks.

hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state)
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.