Buying OnePlus 2 in 2017 - OnePlus 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does OnePlus 2 worth a buy in 2017 for Rs. 19,999 ($299)?
What's your experience with it as a regular user?

991joseph said:
Does OnePlus 2 worth a buy in 2017 for Rs. 19,999 ($299)?
What's your experience with it as a regular user?
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well, if you like tinckering in phones, trying custom roms then this phone still has very good development and most of roms are stable. otherwise if you don't care development and pure android then there is plenty reasons not to choose op2, sp810 is pretty sh**y soc in terms of battery life and thermal stuff. its fast and fluid but its not efficient and heats up very fast. new 6xx series snapdragon socs are even better. also op2 has no nfc as you know, camera is not that good, i mean its good but in 2017 there will be better choises. and i thins 300$ is overpriced. i bought it for 240$ half year ago.

Standard answer: It depends !
Good hardware, stable (time to time )software, poor optics, quite heavy but comfortable. Average battery.
Still for the money it's difficult to buy something BETTER.
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chxei said:
well, if you like tinckering in phones, trying custom roms then this phone still has very good development and most of roms are stable. otherwise if you don't care development and pure android then there is plenty reasons not to choose op2, sp810 is pretty sh**y soc in terms of battery life and thermal stuff. its fast and fluid but its not efficient and heats up very fast. new 6xx series snapdragon socs are even better. also op2 has no nfc as you know, camera is not that good, i mean its good but in 2017 there will be better choises. and i thins 300$ is overpriced. i bought it for 240$ half year ago.
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10/10
Make a comparison of what you can buy for $ 300. And - very important - what you really need?

Buy a refurbished 6P its a better phone

I did. In the UK second hand value of the op2 is still around £200. I managed to get a decent condition one for £150. Going to use it untill the next flagships are released then sell it for £150 or more and get a good phone then. It's almost as good as 2016 flagships in my opinion. Decent battery and lack of NFC doesn't bother me at all.
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Is This Phone Still Worth the Buy?

I'm still interested in this phone, but I can't find a whole lot of information on it after early fall.
Anyone that have one still recommend it?
Any major issues to look out for if I purchased one now?
Not interested in rooting or modding. Really like it for the specs and price.
Thanks!
Well, I for one regret buying it. I think OPO was much better phone. My OP2 is slow and often crashes and couple days ago my clock alarm didn't work which why I overslept. Often have to do hard boot to get it work again.
I don't know is it hardware issue, haven't tried rooting and flashing other ROMs yet, but many people has reported the phone being slow.
It is a bit slow using original os, unfortunately. This will probably be alleviated a bit by Marshmallow when it is released. It's unfortunate that this phone isn't just using ordinary cyanogenmod, since using the current builds of cm13 makes this phone really snappy but with a few bugs and missing features as of now.
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I'm currently running my OP+2 with OOS 2.2.0 and Boeffla Kernel. Runs like a charm. Pretty good Battery life (keeps me through the day with 6 - 7 hours SOT), has an amazing camera, fingerprint works pretty good too. Overall performance is great for me. I don't think you can get a Better device for this price.
Most of the problems everyone is talking about are resulting from wrong usage. Main problems i recognized through the Forums are Facebook+its Messenger, bull**** like Greenify and stuff and wrong expectations about a handheld device that isnt build to be a gaming console (with the right Kernel and Settings it can be ).
But if you are not sure about it and dont want to root and tinker around with the device better wait for another device. Here in Germany you can get a Galaxy S6 for the same price when its on sale somewhere. Maybe such a mainstream device is better for you then.
Hope i could help.
yes.
I think OPO is better now because of the official Cyanogen it have , I have experimented a lot of custom ROM's nowdays , for me H2O is better than OOS , but it's for China and it's customers .. Every H2O OS I installed had the same problem with notifications , for example Whatsapp and Facebook messenger notification came in few minutes after the message was sent to me, or they appeared just after I used the applications .. So I don't recommend H2O os at moment , I hope for a major update of OxigenOS , or that the official Cyanogenmod will come soon , after a better ROM this phone will be stunning, better than OPO :good:
I originally wanted to buy the OPO, but it was out of stock so I got the 2 instead.
I love it, it is a huge step up from my Moto G 2014. Love OxygenOS with the Boeffla Kernel only about 5 hours SOT.
I thought the fingerprint reader was going to be gimmicky, almost 99% accurate. Could not fault the phone atm.
In love with the design, get a nice Dbrand.
I think no. If I could by an other phone today, I would go to a LG G4 or a Nexus 6P. Damn, look at OnePlus Company, no sources, Fingerprint / Laser Autofocus drivers no released yet. I really don't understand OnePlus orientation regarding the open source side of Android. I know they will (I REALLY HOPE) release their sources for CM13, but for now, all I see is that we have a ""semi"" CM13 (But don't say what I've don't said, @regalstreak and all others developers have maid a wonderful job). Furthermore, I asked Carl Pei on his twitter why sources are not release yet, well.... no answer. Very nice for an opened company Anyway. Mate, if you still have the choice, go for an other phone.
Even my old LG G2 already has Android 6.0.1.
Still really pleased with mine after 4 months. For the money I don't think you can do much better, personally.
If you're talking about community support I afraid not. But talking about stock rom, I'm satisfied with custom kernel installed, generally smooth experience relying on it's powerful hardware at least. But of course there are quite a number of competitive phones on similar price range like 5x g4 or stylex.
So it depends on your need. I personally take a lot of snapshot(photo I mean) g4 might be better but I'm still pleased with opt.
I have one and I love it, the only real problem I have is with oxygenos, it's pretty buggy and a bit slow. That hopefully will be fixed with software updates. The fingerprint scanner/home button is very responsive and everything works well for me.
In my opinion it is worth it, I would totally recommend it.
benj! said:
Still really pleased with mine after 4 months. For the money I don't think you can do much better, personally.
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In France, LG G4 dropped at 350 Euros, (~381$), and for me, the G4 is far away compared to the OnePlus Two:
-SDCard slot,
-Camera,
-Great specs,
-Great community support... (CM13, fast update from LG)
Yes, the OnePlus Two is a great phone, but not the flasgship killer claimed by OnePlus. But at the end, user is the one who chooses, so.... just my personal opinion!
Oh yeah, @Chopzzay makes me think about it: fingerprint is one of the most funny thing on this phone, it works for randomly: sometimes every time, some times, I have to do it two or three times before it works. Very disappointed about it.
For me I would say it's pretty much the only flagship dual sim card phone, there really was no other choice since I don't want to be dragging two phones with me all the time to be reached both on my private and business number.
But as a single sim user, it's a completely different situation I recon.
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casual_kikoo said:
In France, LG G4 dropped at 350 Euros, (~381$), and for me, the G4 is far away compared to the OnePlus Two:
-SDCard slot,
-Camera,
-Great specs,
-Great community support... (CM13, fast update from LG)
Yes, the OnePlus Two is a great phone, but not the flasgship killer claimed by OnePlus. But at the end, user is the one who chooses, so.... just my personal opinion!
Oh yeah, @Chopzzay makes me think about it: fingerprint is one of the most funny thing on this phone, it works for randomly: sometimes every time, some times, I have to do it two or three times before it works. Very disappointed about it.
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Of course g4 will be better only if you only name the pros.
Screen resolution is debatable, less battery, less performance and working on adreno 418... That's a choice, not a pro, personally i love that Oneplus 2 has a FullHD display and not a QHD, i could bought LG G4, Moto x pure, or whatever 500uds or less. I decided Oneplus 2 and im very happy with my decisión. Thanks god i didnt belive the overheating rumors, they are exagerated, my nexus 5 got hotter.
*was between the same devices. My decisión was LG G4 or Oneplus 2. Moto X it was my third choice.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr4 vs lpddr3, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint scanner. Works perfect, if you know how to scan. You have to scan your finger in every side of it, so it will work perfectly.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing. Op2 will grow a lot when official marshmallow get released.
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never used it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.*
Hope you can decide for the best, come with us*[emoji6]
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I have an edge plus and use my opt way more then the edge + lol....love this device, don't know why all the hate, Jesus....
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I was really thinking of buying op2 but after seeing so much reviews about heating, more than six months has passed since launch and problem still exist and plus little support for community development from company i doubt i will buy this mobile. I may go for nexus 6p
abhi0502 said:
I was really thinking of buying op2 but after seeing so much reviews about heating, more than six months has passed since launch and problem still exist and plus little support for community development from company i doubt i will buy this mobile. I may go for nexus 6p
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About heating, nexus 6p has the same soc. And this phone doesn't overheat. I use it with modified thermal and it doesn't throttle even after 30m+ of heavy gaming.
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I own a OPT and can't recommend it. It's the worst phone (beside the a Nokia Lumia 520) I've ever used in the last few years.
The hardware is good, the specs are looking great but the software is really crap. and the speaker volume is really really low so I can't hear any calls or messages.

Is the OP2 still a worthy buy in 2017 for $320?

I recently gave away my Nexus 5X because I didn't want to encounter the bootloop for myself. I wanted to ask if this phone would be a better buy than that, because I was pretty impressed with N5X especially in the software and camera department. I didn't have much problems with the performance on the N5X and the OP2 seems to have much beefier specs than the N5X on paper. Is this phone worth the price or can I find a better phone in the same price range? ($320 is the best I can get it for in Pakistan) Also does this have any fatal flaws like the N5X had the bootloop? How's the camera and performance on this (I'm a mild user, I don't intend for extremely heavy use)? And is there any chance of a Nougat update on this device?
Go for something else.
No
Nope
No!
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$320 is too much for the OP2; I got mine off eBay for about $220 about 5 months ago. Find something better..
Definitely no, spend a bit more and you can go for the Oneplus 3 if you want. But my recommendation is not to go with the oneplus 2 for that much of a price
No
I am a Chinese. A secondhand OP2 only worth about 1000RMB (about $160) here. It is a phone with Snapdragon 810 which is out of date. A new XiaoMi Mi5 with Snapdragon 820 is only 1500RMB (about $240) here. So it does not worth $320 at all.

Experience with the device

Hello,
i am looking to buy this device,
is this worth it?
i want you guys to share your personal experience with the device if possible
Its been a very romantic experience for me.
There are tons of reviews all over the web, I suggest you read them.
If you have any specific questions you can ask them here.
It depends on where you live, and how good the deal is. Otherwise v30 is like a finalised design of the G6 and I would wait for it if I could (end sept), of course, by then it'll have other competition
The G6 was DOA when it was released with a 821 processor in a supposed 2017 flagship phone. Consequently sales of G6 are terrible, the good side of this is that G6 prices are falling rapidly. If price is the deciding factor, then G6 is a great option. Otherwise I'd look at oneplus 5 (for development), HTC U11 is a very solid phone, Nokia is about to release a flagship, pixel 2 will no doubt be awesome.
G6 is a pretty good phone, nothing special, nothing bad either...you won't be disappointed or thrilled.
I went to the g6 from the g4. It was sad to say bye bye but the g6 has exceeded my expectations in all aspects. Most notably water resistance, speed, camera, price, and battery life.
My partner has the galaxy s8. They noticed little improvement from the s6(?)! This is a flagship phone and it is cheap!
nchc said:
The G6 was DOA when it was released with a 821 processor in a supposed 2017 flagship phone. Consequently sales of G6 are terrible, the good side of this is that G6 prices are falling rapidly. If price is the deciding factor, then G6 is a great option. Otherwise I'd look at oneplus 5 (for development), HTC U11 is a very solid phone, Nokia is about to release a flagship, pixel 2 will no doubt be awesome.
G6 is a pretty good phone, nothing special, nothing bad either...you won't be disappointed or thrilled.
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Have you actually used it? I have a feeling you haven't.
SD 821 is still a top processor today and this phone runs anything i throw at it no lag, no stutter, no problem. I had a chance to "test drive" Galaxy S8 with it's "superior" SoC and i didn't like it at all. The system was stuttery and laggy mess, even after hard reset, and games ran same as on G6. The only difference you're gonna see today is in benchmarks. So in the end G6, even with it's somewhat "inferior" SoC, is a lot smoother and more responsive phone overall.
Having a faster SoC means nothing if your UX is unoptimized and bloated lag-fest - Samsung style.
We may see a difference in 3 or 4 years, when games and apps might actually be more demanding, but not today. Today G6 is the better, smoother runnnig phone that's why, in the end, i choose it over S8 and i'm loving it.
+It has a better camera, better audio quality (and i'm using non-Quad-DAC version), same battery life, better in-hand feel, no ****ty and pointless edge display and is a lot tougher to break.
WstrKuNoužč said:
Have you actually used it? I have a feeling you haven't.
SD 821 is still a top processor today and this phone runs anything i throw at it no lag, no stutter, no problem. I had a chance to "test drive" Galaxy S8 with it's "superior" SoC and i didn't like it at all. The system was stuttery and laggy mess, even after hard reset, and games ran same as on G6. The only difference you're gonna see today is in benchmarks. So in the end G6, even with it's somewhat "inferior" SoC, is a lot smoother and more responsive phone overall.
Having a faster SoC means nothing if your UX is unoptimized and bloated lag-fest - Samsung style.
We may see a difference in 3 or 4 years, when games and apps might actually be more demanding, but not today. Today G6 is the better, smoother runnnig phone that's why, in the end, i choose it over S8 and i'm loving it.
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Yep, using LG G6 to type this.
Agree with all your statements. I didn't say the G6 was bad, it just doesn't have a distinguishing or marketable feature. 821 chip is great but it wont sell phones in 2017, all the other major manufacturers realised this and delayed releasing flagship phones to get 835s.
Unmodified Samsung's are crap but have brilliant development support and as such are easy to mod and developement last years (my first android is the original galaxy which I purchased before the hype and is still has active development). G6 wont be in active development for long, its a simple numbers game.
nchc said:
Yep, using LG G6 to type this.
Agree with all your statements. I didn't say the G6 was bad, it just doesn't have a distinguishing or marketable feature. 821 chip is great but it wont sell phones in 2017, all the other major manufacturers realised this and delayed releasing flagship phones to get 835s.
Unmodified Samsung's are crap but have brilliant development support and as such are easy to mod and developement last years (my first android is the original galaxy which I purchased before the hype and is still has active development). G6 wont be in active development for long, its a simple numbers game.
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Even G3 is still very active in development today so i don't really believe G6's is just gonna stop or slow after a while.
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I didn't say the G6 was bad, it just doesn't have a distinguishing or marketable feature.
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Well, there's the price. Got it for less than €400 so that certainly distinguishes it from other flagships.
And it's not a particularly good phone I admit, but it's not a bad phone either, certainly not for this kind of money.
it's not a Good phone or a Bad phone. it's a GREAT PHONE.
awesome:
- dual lens & great manual mode
- form factor & industrial design
- flat screen non-Amoled w/natural colours
- QuadDAC
- price
not-as-awesome
- screen may be HDR and DolbyVision ready, but colour accuracy and brightness could be better
- no notification light is a drag -- no way to know if you missed a text, call or email if you don't use Always On Display or wake it to check
- seems that LG spent a lot of time optimizing the cameras (appreciate it, LG!), and less time optimizing the OS (is there a battery drain issue?). for those ppl dissing the SD821 SOC, let's not forget that it's the same guts as the darling Pixel phones, AND also a step up from last year's Galaxy S7/Edge, which many ppl raved about. that said, the 821 just doesn't feel as snappy as it could in the G6 -- not quite like the Pixel experience.
ASW1 said:
Well, there's the price. Got it for less than €400 so that certainly distinguishes it from other flagships.
And it's not a particularly good phone I admit, but it's not a bad phone either, certainly not for this kind of money.
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Exactly what I said a few posts up too
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WstrKuNoužč said:
Even G3 is still very active in development today so i don't really believe G6's is just gonna stop or slow after a while.
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I hope so, but we'll need a few more devs (and a bloody unlock for dual sim) for the G6 to have such longevity. I also have a G1 and developement has slowed to only one dev.
thanks guys for your responses i still haven't decided if i want to buy this device.
I love my g6. It's one of the most valued and Balance ed phones for me. I own honor 8 Pro, s8 plus and Moto z2 play.
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nchc said:
The G6 was DOA when it was released with a 821 processor in a supposed 2017 flagship phone. Consequently sales of G6 are terrible
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You said in a later post that the G6 just has nothing special to compete and I agree with that. But not that the processor has anything to do with it. The average consumer doesn't know or care about the processor in their phone, or most of the other specs that we obsess over. The average consumer bases their decision on much more important factors: 1) what's being advertised heavily; 2) what looks sexy; 3) what will impress their friends; 4) what is prominently displayed at their carrier.
I do feel that the more aggressive pricing we are seeing now counts as a distinguishing feature. If you have the opportunity to show people they can have "just as good" of a phone for half the price, you can sell them. But it's hard to even make that case when people walk in the door wanting an iPhone or GS8 just based on marketing.
Sales are not terrible just not where LG needs them to be. They sold more then 14m G6 devices, yet Goolge didnt even sell 2 million Pixels.
Its a great device I actually switched from the Pixel. I wish the camera was Pixel speed but otherwise I am happy with this device.
WstrKuNoužč said:
Have you actually used it? I have a feeling you haven't.
SD 821 is still a top processor today and this phone runs anything i throw at it no lag, no stutter, no problem. I had a chance to "test drive" Galaxy S8 with it's "superior" SoC and i didn't like it at all. The system was stuttery and laggy mess, even after hard reset, and games ran same as on G6. The only difference you're gonna see today is in benchmarks. So in the end G6, even with it's somewhat "inferior" SoC, is a lot smoother and more responsive phone overall.
Having a faster SoC means nothing if your UX is unoptimized and bloated lag-fest - Samsung style.
We may see a difference in 3 or 4 years, when games and apps might actually be more demanding, but not today. Today G6 is the better, smoother runnnig phone that's why, in the end, i choose it over S8 and i'm loving it.
+It has a better camera, better audio quality (and i'm using non-Quad-DAC version), same battery life, better in-hand feel, no ****ty and pointless edge display and is a lot tougher to break.
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Wow that's surprising for a SD 835 device. The LG G6 wins for 2017 unless next month's launch of the even better LG V30! That LG brings so much hype that the upcoming Galaxy Note 8 looks boring. LG optimizes their phone so good that LG G6 camera, smooth UI, and battery life is great and awesome. LG is best.
I got this device to and its awesome !!
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Ram management on the 2gb variant

Hi all,
Why does the Nexus 5x with 2gb of ram have better ram management than the Moto g5 plus. I have an average of 500mb free when I look in the running services under developer options but on the Nexus 5x there are screenshots of 0.89gb of ram free. Even on my shield tablet I have an average ram usage of 1.2gb. Is there something which I can do to help the ram management and will flashing a custom rom help
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Why does the Nexus 5x with 2gb of ram have better ram management than the Moto g5 plus. I have an average of 500mb free when I look in the running services under developer options but on the Nexus 5x there are screenshots of 0.89gb of ram free. Even on my shield tablet I have an average ram usage of 1.2gb. Is there something which I can do to help the ram management and will flashing a custom rom help
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Do you have a problem?
You misunderstand RAM management... Free RAM is wasted RAM, the kernel should use most to nearly all RAM and free it as needed. I would argue that that Nexus 5x is not properly utilizing the available RAM.
Not to mention, those stats are not accurate. These android devices use all the available RAM they have. Especially on devices that have 2-3gb RAM. There is a lot of things going on in RAM on these devices at any given time. It's what is being kept in RAM, or not that effects performance.
It's all about Unix... A good study it is.
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Thanks for replying everyone. So basically the more used ram the better it is
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Do you have a problem?
You misunderstand RAM management... Free RAM is wasted RAM, the kernel should use most to nearly all RAM and free it as needed. I would argue that that Nexus 5x is not properly utilizing the available RAM.
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Do you have the 2,3 or 4gb variant of the Moto g5 plus. Just asking
DarthMaul14 said:
Do you have the 2,3 or 4gb variant of the Moto g5 plus. Just asking
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4/64GB variant... And even though I have some (ok, a lot) of heartburn against Moto, it is probably my favorite phone of all time so far, except maybe the LG enV.
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4/64GB variant... And even though I have some (ok, a lot) of heartburn against Moto, it is probably my favorite phone of all time so far, except maybe the LG enV.
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Lol. I was considering buying the LG g5 but I read the reviews and saw that it had major battery drain issues (with the stock rom of course lol) and it had bootlops but I went with Moto. I had a first generation Moto g, third generation and now I have the g5 plus.
As they told you, the more ram Android uses, the better. It's not like windows for instance.
I haven't had any problem so far related with ram usage, and I have the 2gb version.
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As they told you, the more ram Android uses, the better. It's not like windows for instance.
I haven't had any problem so far related with ram usage, and I have the 2gb version.
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Nice! Are you running the stock rom and are you rooted
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4/64GB variant... And even though I have some (ok, a lot) of heartburn against Moto, it is probably my favorite phone of all time so far, except maybe the LG enV.
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Lol. I was considering buying the LG g5 but I read the reviews and saw that it had major battery drain issues (with the stock rom of course lol) and it had bootlops but I went with Moto. I had a first generation Moto g, third generation and now I have the g5 plus.
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I came from the S8 and I actually like this phone better. I even had the pixel XL before that and knowing what I know now I'd still pick this phone. I have the 32/2 variant. For me the only downside of this phone is the camera but it's usable in everyday scenarios. I learned pretty quickly to take selfies with the wife with her iPhone 7+ when we're out on the town in the evening LOL.
Lol this phone does seem pretty popular
Does anyone know the frequency of the 2 quad cores that the Snapdragon 625 has. If you look under cpu z only all 8 cores can be used and they always have the same frequency.
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Lol this phone does seem pretty popular
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How would it not be? 5.2" full HD screen, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, SD card slot, 2.0Ghz octo-core processor, full network compatibility in US including Verizon & Sprint included, pure Android, and easily 5 hour SOT with all services running unrestricted... For $299 retail and if you watch the sales at Amazon/Best Buy/Newegg/Etc you can get it for under $249 (I got mine for $215 from Best Buy, on sale for $239 and I had a 10% off one item coupon).
There is nothing else comparable at the same price point at the moment... in my opinion the only better buy at the moment, if you don't have Verizon or Sprint, is the Axon 7 Mini at $199 (my son has this device, it is an extremely under-rated value).
I know someone with an axon 7 and it's terrible. The skin is heavy and it drains a lot of battery. The camera is also average. I think the g5 plus can take better pictures. The mini seems like the better buy.
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I know someone with an axon 7 and it's terrible. The skin is heavy and it drains a lot of battery. The camera is also average. I think the g5 plus can take better pictures. The mini seems like the better buy.
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I don't know... a friend has the regular Axon 7 and loves it, gets around 3.5-4 hours SOT in a time and the pictures are definitely better, especially in low light, maybe your buddy got a lemon (there does seem to be some QC issues with Axon).
The Mini is great, my son gets about 4 hours of SOT with the auto brightness off and screen on max, and the sound quality is actually pretty impressive (dual front facing speakers and Dolby ATMOS sound). Camera on that is about the same as the G5+... Honestly for $199 it's a steal.
They are skinned a bit, but with Nova Launcher it is kind of not relevant.
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I don't know... a friend has the regular Axon 7 and loves it, gets around 3.5-4 hours SOT in a time and the pictures are definitely better, especially in low light, maybe your buddy got a lemon (there does seem to be some QC issues with Axon).
The Mini is great, my son gets about 4 hours of SOT with the auto brightness off and screen on max, and the sound quality is actually pretty impressive (dual front facing speakers and Dolby ATMOS sound). Camera on that is about the same as the G5+... Honestly for $199 it's a steal.
They are skinned a bit, but with Nova Launcher it is kind of not relevant.
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I switched from Moto G5 Plus, to the Axon 7, then back to Moto G5 Plus. The Axon 7 is riddled with bugs, the camera is a turd, and it gets hotter than an oven. I can vouch from first hand experience that this phone is better.
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acejavelin said:
How would it not be? 5.2" full HD screen, 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, SD card slot, 2.0Ghz octo-core processor, full network compatibility in US including Verizon & Sprint included, pure Android, and easily 5 hour SOT with all services running unrestricted... For $299 retail and if you watch the sales at Amazon/Best Buy/Newegg/Etc you can get it for under $249 (I got mine for $215 from Best Buy, on sale for $239 and I had a 10% off one item coupon).
There is nothing else comparable at the same price point at the moment... in my opinion the only better buy at the moment, if you don't have Verizon or Sprint, is the Axon 7 Mini at $199 (my son has this device, it is an extremely under-rated value).
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It's actually on sale now for $199 at Walmart!
https://slickdeals.net/f/10606836-m...almart-b-amp-m-199-ymmv?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
Edit: Looks like they're going for $154 now! (Kind of stings I paid $230 a couple months that back)
I can see why. I feel like it isn't optimized.
DarthMaul14 said:
I can see why. I feel like it isn't optimized.
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Optimized? It's a low mod range phone that really outperforms much more expensive phones in every way but the camera.
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JoRocker said:
I switched from Moto G5 Plus, to the Axon 7, then back to Moto G5 Plus. The Axon 7 is riddled with bugs, the camera is a turd, and it gets hotter than an oven. I can vouch from first hand experience that this phone is better.
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It's actually on sale now for $199 at Walmart!
https://slickdeals.net/f/10606836-m...almart-b-amp-m-199-ymmv?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
Edit: Looks like they're going for $154 now! (Kind of stings I paid $230 a couple months that back)
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I just paid $219 for mine 3 weeks ago. Then best buy put the g5s plus out for the same price
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Optimized? It's a low mod range phone that really outperforms much more expensive phones in every way but the camera.
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I just paid $219 for mine 3 weeks ago. Then best buy put the g5s plus out for the same price
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I was taking about the axon 7 not the Moto g5 plus

LG V20 or Samsung Galaxy S7

So, some background to my story.
I was saving up for an S8+ but had to use that money somewhere else. Need to a buy phone ASAP and looking at previous gen flagship.
I currently have a Redmi note 4 and I don't want another mediocre mid level phone. I really don't like the camera or the sound quality.
Now my budget isn't much. I can spare about $320.
I am getting an S7 (G930T) for $335 and a V20 (H918) for $300. (Both are brand new)
My only concern for the S7 is no development since it is snapdragon (Can't find a cheap Exynos). As for the V20, plenty of development but no future updates (S7 will get official Oreo).
I live in India and will be importing these devices through a family member. I've already looked at OnePlus and they aren't selling for cheap, both the 3T and 5.
All I'm looking for is a day's battery life, good camera and sound quality. Not much of a mobile gamer.
Basic needs are WhatsApp, Reddit, Snapchat, Instagram and YouTube. No Facebook.
Can I please get your opinions below?
V20 is getting Oreo sometime in the first quarter of 2018.
S7 doesn't have a removable battery, IR blaster nor is it certified shock resistant. Those were deal breakers for me. The V20 has more screen space. Very happy with my V20 & would recommend it.
I owned both phones ,the S7 and the V20 and let me tell you that the LG V20 wins in almost every aspect.
Byt the S7, trust me on this one.
I had the note 5 before the v20, and the note 5 was a far superior phone: better performance, less lag (way less lag, lg software is a joke), betetr battery life, better camera (especially in low light), better screen (amoleds are amazing), better software (again, lg software is a joke, the stock lg apps are made for android eclair compared to the polished samsung phone), better software support (i used to get an update every month on the note 5 to update me to the latest security patch, you would be lucky if you get an update every 3 months on the v20), way better roms and kernel support (you can't even properly root most of the v20 variants), and better day to day phone, I was alot happier with the Samsung and I regret buying the v20.
No one cares about removable battery (by the time you swapper batteries, rebooted, and waited 2 minutes for the software to finalize booting, fast charge would have gtten you 50%).
I never used the IR blaster.
And we all use cases, even if our phone is shock resistant.
Trust me on this one, get the s7, I wish I had the money to switch back,
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Oh an snapchat is a joke on the v20, ask everyone who uses it, I don't know why, maybe it's the dual camera system, but it was a far better experience on the note 5.
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Byt the S7, trust me on this one.
I had the note 5 before the v20, and the note 5 was a far superior phone: better performance, less lag (way less lag, lg software is a joke), betetr battery life, better camera (especially in low light), better screen (amoleds are amazing), better software (again, lg software is a joke, the stock lg apps are made for android eclair compared to the polished samsung phone), better software support (i used to get an update every month on the note 5 to update me to the latest security patch, you would be lucky if you get an update every 3 months on the v20), way better roms and kernel support (you can't even properly root most of the v20 variants), and better day to day phone, I was alot happier with the Samsung and I regret buying the v20.
No one cares about removable battery (by the time you swapper batteries, rebooted, and waited 2 minutes for the software to finalize booting, fast charge would have gtten you 50%).
I never used the IR blaster.
And we all use cases, even if our phone is shock resistant.
Trust me on this one, get the s7, I wish I had the money to switch back,
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Oh an snapchat is a joke on the v20, ask everyone who uses it, I don't know why, maybe it's the dual camera system, but it was a far better experience on the note 5.
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Hmm ?... I love my V20 and with a zerolemon battery this thing is a beast. I would recommend this device to anyone who is going to utilize the extra battery. If not then go I would recommend s7
Still_living714 said:
Hmm ?... I love my V20 and with a zerolemon battery this thing is a beast. I would recommend this device to anyone who is going to utilize the extra battery. If not then go I would recommend s7
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There are wireless charging battery cases for the s7, like this one for example: https://www.ebay.com/p/Samsung-Wire...for-Galaxy-S7-EP-TG930BBUGUS-Black/1864804731 .
I currently own both and the v20 every day any day noth even close lol.
guess ill elaborate why.
v20 is a cleaner look. Bigger screen so everything is easier to see and its on par with the AMOLED if not better. removable battery is a huge i always have one charging in the cradle charger at home. Also the built in DAC is amazing if you care about sound quality for headphones.
s7 is too small anymore and just doesnt bring anything to the table that is out of the ordinary. wireless charging and waterproofing are nice i guess.... but yeah.
I was curious to the same thing. Any AOSP ROMs for v20? I wanted to get a pixel first gen but they are 200 more than the v20 and I really dislike the looks of first gen pixels . They look like toy phones.
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I was curious to the same thing. Any AOSP ROMs for v20? I wanted to get a pixel first gen but they are 200 more than the v20 and I really dislike the looks of first gen pixels . They look like toy phones.
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There is a lineage os rom (sort of), but it doesn't support the second screen.
How about huwaei mate 9 ?
Get the v20, my sgse7 throttle like no tomorrow, you cant even record a long video because if the phone heats up it will shutdown the camera and every thing with a warning, until everything cools down, it is that retarded. I had the sgs7 and regreted every minute of it, it was always super slow because again of the retarded samsung throttle they placed to keep the device"cool". When i got my v20 the difference in performance was night and day, i can record all i want and the device stays super cool, 0 throttle and i can actually have twrp and custom roms. Most new samsung phones have DVFS, that thing is hell for us, it will make the device crawl.
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No one cares about removable battery (by the time you swapper batteries, rebooted, and waited 2 minutes for the software to finalize booting, fast charge would have gtten you 50%).
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Nonsense!
a replacable battery is a safety net for when you find you're out and a quick swap gets you back to 100. I carry mine in a wallet at all times. Yes i do go about with a replacable battery because unlike a lot of ignorant people i know what its for
a key feature of the v20 is the replacable battery, last of its kind unfortunately, that alone was enough to convince me. This btw is the third phone in a row i have with replacable batteries
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ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I currently have a Redmi note 4 and I don't want another mediocre mid level phone. I really don't like the camera or the sound quality.
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How much SOT you get with that on wifi only ?
The RN3 was very good with battery 9h SOT (snapdragon), is this the expectation you have when you say all day battery if you will be on data all day
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How much SOT you get with that on wifi only ?
The RN3 was very good with battery 9h SOT (snapdragon), is this the expectation you have when you say all day battery if you will be on data all day
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I usually get around 10Hours. This is with 2 Sims.
On an average day about 8-9 hours. Sometimes even touches 12 hours.
ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I usually get around 10Hours. This is with 2 Sims.
On an average day about 8-9 hours. Sometimes even touches 12 hours.
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I am referring to screen on time not runtime
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I am referring to screen on time not runtime
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I'm telling you the screen on time only lol
See the average per cycle.
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I'm telling you the screen on time only lol
See the average per cycle.
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Says the average SOT is 9h46 with a max of 2h13 (?) (that look right to you)
Question is how much SOT are you expecting for a days use on the v20?
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Says the average SOT is 9h46 with a max of 2h13 (?) (that look right to you)
Question is how much SOT are you expecting for a days use on the v20?
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Those readings say 17 hours on uptime and 9 hours of SOT.
From the V20 I don't expect much. I've had a G3 in the past and it barely gave me 3-4 Hours of sot in a full day
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My only concern for the S7 is no development since it is snapdragon (Can't find a cheap Exynos). As for the V20, plenty of development but no future updates (S7 will get official Oreo).
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It's so strange to read the S7 snapdragon won't receive any development. It always was that snapdragons were the easiest to develop for because qualcom released sources unlike Samsung with exynos. So exynos could only get stock roms
I live in India and will be importing these devices through a family member. I've already looked at OnePlus and they aren't selling for cheap, both the 3T and 5.
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Band 40 support for 4G is there on t-mo phones ?
Don't know what Jio uses
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It's so strange to read the S7 snapdragon won't receive any development. It always was that snapdragons were the easiest to develop for because qualcom released sources unlike Samsung with exynos. So exynos could only get stock roms
Band 40 support for 4G is there on t-mo phones ?
Don't know what Jio uses
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For JIO I'll have to use an app for calls. Data would work fine. Anyway, I've decided to save up some money. V30 is doing to launch soon
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For JIO I'll have to use an app for calls. Data would work fine. Anyway, I've decided to save up some money. V30 is doing to launch soon
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In India ? there were rumours earlier.
The price is exorbitant right now.
i picked up a v20 for 30k, cheaper than i got the G4. i get the battery and everything else. The new screen i can miss but the wide angle will need post work
If you can wait, its better to get a phone that launches with Oreo as there will be mandatory Treble support
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In India ? there were rumours earlier.
The price is exorbitant right now.
i picked up a v20 for 30k, cheaper than i got the G4. i get the battery and everything else. The new screen i can miss but the wide angle will need post work
If you can wait, its better to get a phone that launches with Oreo as there will be mandatory Treble support
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A brand new V20 from Flipkart costs 25k.
Yeah I'm thinking of waiting now. Gonna extend my time with Redmi note 4

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