Purchasing Advice - Other SmartWatches

Hi,
Im looking for a cheap Smart watch with SIM and good GPS. I will probably only use it for running (though if it is good for day-to-day use I'll be even happier).
Right now I have a Gear S2, which I like a lot. Mainly because it is comfortable,its looks good and last for more than a day of work (actually close to two days). So for day-to-day I'm fine.
I was thinking about Finow X5+, but I found no real relivable review on forums. Also KingWear KW18, but there were some complaints about its GPS (and I need a good one).
I was also thinking about waiting for the new Google watches, hoping they will cost no more than 200$, or buyin a used LG urbane 2nd edition.
What do you think?

I'm not familiar with the KW15 or X5 specifically, but I own a couple of watches of that elk and a Gear S3. It's an apples to oranges comparison. The cheap Chinese watches try to do everything but execute it poorly. Running full Android, they're theoretically capable off running any app. But in reality, software crashes, poor battery, minimal water resistance, etc. keep it's potential from being realized. Because they're inexpensive, some folks are willing to tolerate their shortcomings. But if you're looking for a dedicated running watch, you're probably not one of them. Especially since you already have a Gear S2.
There are several GPS equipped watches/fitness trackers that have a good reputation with runners. Your SIM requirement is the limiting factor. At the sub $200 price point, you'll probably achieve a better result with a watch or tracker from Garmin, Polar, TomTom, or Fitbit plus a cheap phone that you take with you on runs if you need SIM capability. If you want a quality all in one device, it's not going to be cheap. The best options currently available are from Samsung and LG, as you know.

I think it is a wise advice. So I took a look at some GPS sport watches and they seems to be both good enough and cheap enough.

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LG G Watch VS Samsung Gear Live.

What is your guys opinion on both these smart watches?
Both have pros and cons.
Galaxy Gear Live:
Pro:
Has a better screen.
Heart rate monitor
Cons:
Smaller 300 mah batter.
Charging cradle is horrible.
LG G Watch.
Pro
Bigger battery.
Has a lot of praise on the XDA sub forum.
Cons.
Lower quality screen.
I have not used the LG yet but I can't complain about the battery on the Gear Live. Today is my first full day of use and I'm at 48% right now after 14 hours. Not bad. I had the Gear 2 and I love Android Wear as a os over what Sammy does. I like the build and look of the Gear Live. Looking forward to more apps.
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The Gear Live is much like the Gear Neo and people sure they like more battery life but I believe the screen is not as hard on the battery as the LG watch.
I had a Neo for a couple of months and I would get about three days battery life.
It was ok but it really looked like it wasn't going to get any decent apps for it, so I switched to the G watch.
On the Gear, I miss the Home key and the longer battery life than the G watch.
The G watch works better with notifications but if they aren't from Google Apps, you only get the title of the notification and a small amount of the content.
You also can't change the font size on the G watch and to be honest, it's just too big when scrolling through an email.
I'm very hopeful that the limitations on notifications will be addressed as apps are updated to integrate with Android Wear. I really couldn't see this happening with the Gear as the audience is just too small for the app developers to bother.
Also, I'm looking forward to some decent extensions of existing apps that actually work well with Android Wear!
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The main factor for me is: changable watch straps.
I've managed to snap every plastic watch strap I've ever worn within 2 months.
I'm debating to get the Gear Live or G Watch.
I'm just waiting to see if T-Mobile or AT&T will be carrying the Gear Live anytime soon. You can get a G Watch for under $200 if you pick 2 more small accessories on AT&T.
I like g watch she have a good look
I have the G Watch.
I'm pleased with it and find:
Screen is fine in daylight and even bright sun.
Easily good for a day battery life.
I had the Gear 2 and I prefer the less bulky size of the G Watch.
I don't notice the slightly lower res of the G Watch....things still look crisp and good.
Not had any issues with the lack of a power button and you can restart watch in the settings.
I do think there should be a home button mind.
Overall, I'm pleased with my purchase and the pace that apps are being developed is looking really good.....unlike the Tizen platform!
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When are these going to be available in stores? Would like to at least check these watches out but Best Buy just keeps saying preorder.
tu3218 said:
When are these going to be available in stores? Would like to at least check these watches out but Best Buy just keeps saying preorder.
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I bought my g watch from best buy yesterday just call a local one and ask when they'll have it in store. They should be able to check other stores near you too.
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I bought my g watch from best buy yesterday just call a local one and ask when they'll have it in store. They should be able to check other stores near you too.
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Did they have them out to play with? I want to experience android wear but wondering if I should wait. That's why I was leaning more towards the Gear Live solely because it's a little cheaper.
I have the G Watch and like it so far. Coming from the Gear 1 running Tizen, it was a pretty big learning curve. Android Wear has more development and lets me do more from my watch than Tizen (i.e. navigate, change phone volume, stream live camera feed from the phone, etc). I do miss making calls on the watch....a lot. I sorta miss the camera but I rarely used it.
From what I've read, the Gear Live is similar to the Neo, only with Wear not Tizen. So I wouldn't imagine there are huge differences between the Live and G Watch aside from cosmetics.
I'll definitely buy a next gen Android Wear watch when they get speakers!
I pick Gear Live
X1XNobleX1X said:
What is your guys opinion on both these smart watches?
Both have pros and cons.
Galaxy Gear Live:
Pro:
Has a better screen.
Heart rate monitor
Cons:
Smaller 300 mah batter.
Charging cradle is horrible.
LG G Watch.
Pro
Bigger battery.
Has a lot of praise on the XDA sub forum.
Cons.
Lower quality screen.
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I would go for Gear Live better screen, better looks and the heart rate monitor is a huge addition
No one are useful
Samsung Gear Live is better than LG Watch: it's better looking and, if Samsung leaves Android for Tizen, it would be one of those devices which will turn to this OS, even if I prefer Android
I have to go for the g watch. I actually prefer the looks of the G watch, I like that it has a clean industrial design with no buttons Many people hate that but I love it.
Also I hate Samsung and tizen is just hurgh. LG all the way, my phone is a Nexus 5 also from LG
I don't do sports lel: no heartbeatsensor, so what? I only wish the screen was a little better on the G Watch as you can really see the pixels sometimes. And the amoled screen is also a plus for the gear live as it doesn't shine as much at night and is better visible in daylight.
All in all the watches are very similar considering hardware so I guess it comes down to the look basically.
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Personally, I went with the G Watch, but it was by a small margin. The larger battery on the G watch and a disdain for samsung's business practices (I fear samsung will be more likely to lock down the OS and/or design apps specifically for use with Samsung phones - although so far it seems like Google is doing a good job keeping things uniform across devices) were two of the deciding factors. I would have preferred an AMOLED screen and higher resolution, but the screen isn't *that* much better than the G watch's screen.
I think the gear live is the better choice if you intend to have the screen always on, especially with a mostly black background (power saving with amoled), and plan to use it primarily as a stylish watch. The gear live is subjectively better looking, and a nice watch face that's always on could potentially make it look even more stylish. The battery is sufficient for a day's use of a good-looking watch that you occasionally use for google now and other apps.
However, if you turn off the display's "always on" feature, and plan to use the watch extensively for apps/google services, I think the G watch delivers better battery life. So far, I haven't minded tapping the screen to see the date and time, so the watch display is almost always off - meaning the battery savings with samsung's amoled display would be nearly negligible for my use. However, I'm using the watch a LOT: I use it for navigation, I'm constantly signed in to hangouts and reply to the messages through the watch, I keep a running list of to-do notes, etc. I also have the screen brightness set really high, because its usually off anyway, but it's perfectly visible when I need it (even outdoors). With a full charge in the morning and the brightness set very high, I have yet to kill the battery before I go to sleep, even when I've used the watch extensively all day long - which is good, because my use will only increase as apps are developed.
tl;dr Ultimately, they're very similar and you can't really go wrong. The extra 100mAh on the G watch is probably negated if you plan to keep the watch "always on" (in fact, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the Gear Live even gets better battery life when the screen is always on). If you turn the display off, though, then the battery-saving display technology won't matter as much and you'll have an extra 100mAh of battery life.
I went in today to pick up the G watch and my best buy didn't have any. This is really frustrating. I believe the Gear Live is rumored to be available the 27th or 28th of July at best buys so maybe I'll check in a day or so for that watch. I want to try either one but don't want to have order one. Anyone having luck with finding them at best buys?
Thanks everyone for the reviews. I think they are both decent I'd be happy with either. I know they're not no moto 360, but I bet they end up being a good amount cheaper than the 360. So hopefully I can find one of these in best buy. Leaning towards the Gear live cause the screen and heart rate monitor.
Please continue in the comparison thread seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229761
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[Q] anyone have ZGPAX S6?!

Please i want to buy this one, but i can't find any reviews on it at all..
I hope anyone can help me to make right decision..
Thanks in advance
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From what I can find it's an MT6577. The MT6577 is a two year old chip that if you look at the S5, EC-309 and other threads, is known for issues when it comes to smartwatches. MediaTek also has a habit of packaging half finished firmware with security holes and BT issues.
Money vs overall device, you would be better off looking at a MT6572 or MT6582 based standalone smartwatch. And if all the MediaTek based smartwatch devs can get together then I expect a number of issues to go away.
Ok thank you loki for this deep knowledge information...
So can you recommend me a standalone one with this price range has better specs or at least with more recent chip?
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the zgpax s5 has a thread and it seems to be a good watch. I dont think that the company producing this watch would make the s6 worse than the s5, if anything it should be better than the s5. I plan on buying this in a few weeks.
m34n1ng said:
the zgpax s5 has a thread and it seems to be a good watch. I dont think that the company producing this watch would make the s6 worse than the s5, if anything it should be better than the s5. I plan on buying this in a few weeks.
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I am not sure how good the S6 is, but I was very interested. My only issue with all current Android 3G phone watches is that they seem to have the same specifications, which based on an earlier response, is a dated technology, and I wonder if it really is worth $130+ USD, when you can get smartphone with much better specs for less money.
What intrigues me with the s6 is that it seems to have the look I will be expecting from the rumored Samsung Galaxy Solo due out later this year.
I for one am opting for a Kickstarter phone watch (the XS-4) that seems to be a quantum leap in technology (MTK6592 octo-core processor, Android 4.4, waterproof and LTE among other neat specs.). Granted it sells for over $250 USD and it a Kickstarter campaign.
I gave up on the XS-4 and I have bought myself the CL-W211, which is another branding of the Zgpax S6. I will review it once I get it in a few weeks.
probstc said:
I am not sure how good the S6 is, but I was very interested. My only issue with all current Android 3G phone watches is that they seem to have the same specifications, which based on an earlier response, is a dated technology, and I wonder if it really is worth $130+ USD, when you can get smartphone with much better specs for less money.
What intrigues me with the s6 is that it seems to have the look I will be expecting from the rumored Samsung Galaxy Solo due out later this year.
I for one am opting for a Kickstarter phone watch (the XS-4) that seems to be a quantum leap in technology (MTK6592 octo-core processor, Android 4.4, waterproof and LTE among other neat specs.). Granted it sells for over $250 USD and it a Kickstarter campaign.
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The thing to look for when buying a android watch phone, is that you don't necessarily look for the newest / fastest but rather to acknowledge there WILL be compromises between price, battery life, performance due to the size of the watch.
things you want:
1. battery life
2. waterproof/resistance
3. at least dual core
4. at least 512mb ram
5. at least Android 4.0
things you DONT want
1. LTE or even 3g
2. octo-core
3. short battery life
4. single-touch capacitive display
The xs-4 failed aboved also its kickstarter... if you ever get it it'll be 2 years from now and it'll still be old tech and bad battery life.
s5/6 is an okay product however its battery life is problmatic..
like the other guy said, much better to look for a mtk6572 device which should cost ~$200 online.
beggerking said:
The thing to look for when buying a android watch phone, is that you don't necessarily look for the newest / fastest but rather to acknowledge there WILL be compromises between price, battery life, performance due to the size of the watch.
things you want:
1. battery life
2. waterproof/resistance
3. at least dual core
4. at least 512mb ram
5. at least Android 4.0
things you DONT want
1. LTE or even 3g
2. octo-core
3. short battery life
4. single-touch capacitive display
The xs-4 failed aboved also its kickstarter... if you ever get it it'll be 2 years from now and it'll still be old tech and bad battery life.
s5/6 is an okay product however its battery life is problmatic..
like the other guy said, much better to look for a mtk6572 device which should cost ~$200 online.
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Thanks for the advice, and BTW, because it was "too good to be true" and failed other Crowd Funding efforts, I have abandoned the pledge for the XS-4. With just over 44 pledges and two days left on Kickstarter, I think that there is too much risk with this product. I also have memories from my previous pledge for the Neptune Pine, which has turned into a fiasco - Fortunately I took there offer for a full refund when they failed to meet their first delivery dates.
In the meantime, I did order the CL-W211 (exactly the same watch as the Zgpax S6), and when I receive it, I will add a review.
Review of the Zgpax S6
needo said:
Please i want to buy this one, but i can't find any reviews on it at all..
I hope anyone can help me to make right decision..
Thanks in advance
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Here is a review of the ZGPAX S6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_-1Nfp3gCo
19mm thick
probstc said:
Here is a review of the ZGPAX S6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_-1Nfp3gCo
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For $129, i can live with the low screen resolution and the 2MP cam, but it's19mm thick, shame, far too thick for me.
Other then that, i would have purchased it, cuz all seems good for the price. :good:
needo said:
Please i want to buy this one, but i can't find any reviews on it at all..
I hope anyone can help me to make right decision..
Thanks in advance
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I just received my ZGPAX S6 today (labelled CL-W211), and here are my first impressions:
Pros:
- Bloatware free, full Android 4.04
- Screen is bright, easy to read and responsive
- Device has decent performance for such modest specifications
- So far all the features tested have work. I still have to test the GPS.
- Speaker quality is excellent
Cons:
- Battery life is terrible, especially if you use many of the phones features at once
- WiFi reception is very weak
- Build quality is not the best and makes you wonder about durability
- Chinese instructions and power plug were useless and a bit of a joke considering where the device was being shipped to
I think this watch phone has potential, and will serve me well as a proof of concept until more sophisticated models are released.
The zgpax s5 or sy have both not 2 finger multitouch?
Sometimes in videos it looks like it has.
Updated review on the ZGPAX S6
After having my S6 for the past 8 months, I am sad to report that my original concerns about quality build were justified, as the camera is no longer functional, and the original batter no longer holds a charge (I had to buy a spare one). What is most infuriating is the fact that ZGPAX has released an updated S6, using the MTK6572 processor, and therefore able to run Android 4.4, whereas the original S6 is limited to Android 4.04.
I even think the whole concept of a smartphone on a watch was flawed, as the ZGPAX failed in usability: It is difficult to have a device that when not used can last a reasonable amount of time, but the moment you do anything on it, the battery drains almost instantaneously. Also, while I love compact devices, a 1.54 inch screen is too small even for those with the best eyesight. Having a smart watch paired with a smartphone is still a decent option, but forget an all-in-one solution!
I have moved on (technologically), but to me this was the last straw in buying cheap Chinese tech, especially when the manufacturer abandons the product. For those who read this and are considering buying the ZGPAX S6, you have been warned.
Thanks for this post. But one has to really point out that for the price for such a watch and the fact that it is a "no name" brand. ie unbranded really. One would expect around 8 months to 12 months usage. It is not bad that your lasted for 8 months. It can now serve as a AP-tettering point connected to a small powerbank since it is still functional even with a very weak or non-functional battery. If you buy a branded product at 2.5 times the price, then expect that to last 2 years or around that. I expect most would switch after a year. It is no different from a phone where yearly switching seems to be the norm for many and a phone is clearly 3 to 4 times to price of the watch. My S8 is going on 7 months and I will replace it or add another in 6 months or so when the Android Wear software really comes of ago with funtionality and battery life. I really need a GPS-track on watch to last a full 12 hours on one charge. For now the Garmin Vivoactive looks like the closest match, but I will hold off for the next iteration. The screen is lower resolution as I expect 320X320 at the very least.

Which Wear OS watch to get for 2019?

My Pebble Time has been on it's last legs for a while but I held out last year hoping that they'd release a Pixel Watch but they never did. Then I heard about the Snapdragon 3100 chip and that a ton of watches would follow once that was released but that never did (I think Fossil Sport was the only watch that came out). However, my Pebble Time has now completely given up the ghost and I'm watchless. I was hoping to string it out until later this year as there are again more rumours that the Pixel Watch will come out this year. If I was to get a watch today then I think the best watch is Huawei Watch 2 Sport but this is over 2 years old now and I'm worried that it won't be supported much longer so it would be a terrible time to buy. How strong is the thinking that the Pixel Watch will come out this year? Where are all the watches that were supposed to come with the 3100 chip? I have a non-smart watch that I can use to tie me over for a few months but only if I can get something in 2019.
Thoughts?
The Montblanc Summit 2 has a 3100. But it's also $1100... I'd gladly wear one but I don't think I'd buy it. I did the same searching a while back. I think the Falster 2 might be a 3100 too and looked pretty reasonable. I ended up buying a small cheap MTK watch to play with for the moment. Which kind of works but isn't in the same league...
I have almost all Wear Watch (and also pebble) but I think the last is the better : Ticwatch Pro. Better battery life for all Wear Watch even better than my Huawei 2. About 2% by hour when all others have at least 3.5-4.5% by hour. So real 2 days battery life and can charge the 3rd days. Big, big point is also the real LCD screen (FSTN) for always ON mode. So it is always ON like the pebble and no light emmitted by the watch.
Actually i'm a Fossil Smartwatch Gen. 4 user and it's awesome from all the way. I don't why any topic exists in here. It has heart rate function, built-in GPS and a premium design with a good price
For 3100 i think it's very expensive now, my next watch will be a 3100 one, also i'm thinking to buy again a Fossil. There was rumors that Google will work with Fossil on next smartwatches and that made me glad about it.
none ...wear os is garbage
I also had the Pebble Time Steel which was killed after I entered a salt water pool with it.
After a few month of walking with a "normal" watch I bought a Fossil Q Explorist Gen 4. which is based on the 2100 cpu.
I thought about getting the Fossil Sport which has the 3100 cpu for the same price, but the Q looks much better.
I get over a day of battery with always on display, wifi and bluetooth on, and with the periodic heart rate monitoring.
I use it mostly for showing the time and for notifications. Despite all the reviews trashing Wear OS, I must say I disagree and I like this watch.
I got it for $200 which is much cheaper than Apple and Samsung (the Pebble was $350!) and i wouldn't think twice for buying it
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I have almost all Wear Watch (and also pebble) but I think the last is the better : Ticwatch Pro. Better battery life for all Wear Watch even better than my Huawei 2. About 2% by hour when all others have at least 3.5-4.5% by hour. So real 2 days battery life and can charge the 3rd days. Big, big point is also the real LCD screen (FSTN) for always ON mode. So it is always ON like the pebble and no light emmitted by the watch.
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I second this.
Currently using TicWatch Pro for weeks, and very happy with it.
If you can splurge some budget, I can also recommend Casio ProTrek WSD-F30 which, like TicWatch Pro, also has dual layer display.
Tough it has twice the price, the added protection and features really worth your money.
AW
Sorry to tell you,
Android Wear is dead.
And so is it's pathetic tiles update.
Buy a Samsung watch.
I finally came to this realization when I caught myself trying to fix the shortcomings of my Ticwatch s using Tasker, IFttt and and another app.
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
Watches with SIM cards
I have never seen much purpose in a phone-dependent watch, much like the Bluetooth earpiece I quit carrying after less than a year (back in 2006), why do we want ANOTHER thing to schlep around, charge, etc.?
However, a number of smart watch phones have come out which handle 4G SIM cards making them phone-independent, and I _can_ see a use case for leaving the bulky phablet phone home and wearing a (bulky) watch instead.
Sort of at random, I got a Kingwear KC05 4G 8MP Camera IP67 Waterproof WIFI GPS Smart Watch Phone, and it's a nice quality piece, particularly for the price, but as mentioned above, even though it runs full Android 7.1.1 and doesn't need to pair to a tablet phone for anything, it's pretty hard to navigate the super high DPI round touchscreen, though I am surprised how easy the on-screen keyboard is to use accurately.
Any other smart-watch-phone experiences out there to share?
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When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
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The common conception is that Ford introduced the Mustang in 1964 to incredible success, and the folks at arch-rival Chevrolet simply copied the concept to unveil the Camaro in 1966 for the 1967 model year. Fact is, though, the story is not quite as simple as that. americanrodeo dot com/story/12690615/the-origin-of-the-chevrolet-camaro
For what I do,a connected watch is a must. Live being able to see messages, control music devices and other things like that when I can't have my phone in my hand. It's fantatsic.
Are you using your Galaxy Watch with a non-Sammy device? My incomplete understanding is that the Samsung framework is required in a phone for full functionality of their watches.
IDK1985 said:
Sorry to tell you,
Android Wear is dead.
And so is it's pathetic tiles update.
Buy a Samsung watch.
I finally came to this realization when I caught myself trying to fix the shortcomings of my Ticwatch s using Tasker, IFttt and and another app.
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
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I just bought the ticwatch pro, it’s bothering me the lag in ui response. I can only hope that it’s sorting itself out being new, and will improve with time.
Maybe I should return while I still can, that falster 2 isn’t much more expensive...
ha7msterx said:
I just bought the ticwatch pro, it’s bothering me the lag in ui response. I can only hope that it’s sorting itself out being new, and will improve with time.
Maybe I should return while I still can, that falster 2 isn’t much more expensive...
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There's lag? I just picked up a 2nd hand Huawei Watch 2 for £70 and it's quite laggy. I was going to go for the Pro but it's £220,im glad I didn't now!
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The common conception is that Ford introduced the Mustang in 1964 to incredible success, and the folks at arch-rival Chevrolet simply copied the concept to unveil the Camaro in 1966 for the 1967 model year. Fact is, though, the story is not quite as simple as that. americanrodeo dot com/story/12690615/the-origin-of-the-chevrolet-camaro
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This makes me smile.
I just grabbed the Fossil Explorer... This is my first non-Samsung smartwatch and so it's a bit different. WearOS is cool, but I've noticed it's slow to completely boot ( 2 minutes or so ) and not as buttery smooth as the Tizen OS. The OOB experience was great right up to the point of updates... sweet Jesus that was a horrific experience as the watch slowed down, had incredibly long response times and was generally frustrating until they all got done.... that was done being waded through, things got much much better... the integration of Google things is spot on and really nice to have and works really well. The gesture system is good, if somewhat quirky ( I think most of this is because I'm used to the Samsung gestures and just need to get used to the WearOS way ) . the screen is great, it charges quickly and looks terrific. I'd say consider this model if you're in the market. If you can survive the initial updating, you'll like it a lot.
Fossil Generation 5 is the best in 2019
Do not listen to trolls that visit an Wear OS board just to say the Galaxy Watch is better or Wear OS is dead.
Galaxy Watch requires you to add Samsung bloat to non Samsung devices, and it is expensive.
Me personally I would not buy a watch without Google Pay.
The Snapdragon 3100 is fast.
It has more internal memory than pass devices
and excellent battery life,
After 4.5 years running Wear OS on my Moto 360 (gen 2) the battery finally died, so I decided it was time to upgrade. I just bought the Fossil Carlyle HR (gen 5). Only had the watch for 2 days, but I love this watch! Great design, runs quick, charges quick, battery lasts a couple days or more depending on your settings, and the addition of having Google Pay in my watch is a game changer.
AstroDigital said:
Fossil Generation 5 is the best in 2019
Do not listen to trolls that visit an Wear OS board just to say the Galaxy Watch is better or Wear OS is dead.
Galaxy Watch requires you to add Samsung bloat to non Samsung devices, and it is expensive.
Me personally I would not buy a watch without Google Pay.
The Snapdragon 3100 is fast.
It has more internal memory than pass devices
and excellent battery life,
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I concur. My new Gen 5 is a beast. I do admit the Samsung Gear Sport I had was a real smooth watch. The issue with the Samsung is that it died after 4 months. Samsung does not put the serial number on the watch. Since I had thrown the box away, Samsung told me I was SOL. What that means for me. No matter how good a Samsung product seams to be. I still will not buy it because there business practice and customer service down right sucks.
IDK1985 said:
Sorry to tell you,
Android Wear is dead.
And so is it's pathetic tiles update.
Buy a Samsung watch.
I finally came to this realization when I caught myself trying to fix the shortcomings of my Ticwatch s using Tasker, IFttt and and another app.
When you wear a Galaxy watch, after wearing a Wear watch for some time, you instantly feel the difference. It's like driving a Mustang while all you did in your life was walking ...
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One demoralizing word: Bixby!

What smart watch to buy?

I never bought a smart watch in the past but am interested in doing so now. What's the best bang-for-the-buck smart watch I can buy? I use a Samsung Galaxy Android phone so I'm guessing an Apple Watch is off the list. I would prefer one that has a heart rate monitor and all the standard sensors.
TIA for your help.
look at these playlists:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vW40mQ7D5yjsUxc4ms5Z-zj
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vWfrpYV3AZRSKCBDXxoU8yi
I am considering getting the Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS as it seems to have all the latest and greatest.
A lot of info here on some of the Samsung Galaxy's Watches...
Noidremained said:
look at these playlists:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vW40mQ7D5yjsUxc4ms5Z-zj
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGZLicZ6A2vWfrpYV3AZRSKCBDXxoU8yi
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Thanks but those are a lot of smart watches! It wouldn't really help me narrow it down to one because they're not comparison videos.
SirDigitalKnight said:
I am considering getting the Ticwatch Pro 3 GPS as it seems to have all the latest and greatest.
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Is this better than, say, the samsung galaxy watches?
galaxys said:
A lot of info here on some of the Samsung Galaxy's Watches...
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Is it pretty natural to think that since I'm a samsung galaxy phone user, their smart watch is the most logical thing to go with?
Yes, it is a much smoother coexistence...
kevindd992002 said:
Thanks but those are a lot of smart watches! It wouldn't really help me narrow it down to one because they're not comparison videos.
Is this better than, say, the samsung galaxy watches?
Is it pretty natural to think that since I'm a samsung galaxy phone user, their smart watch is the most logical thing to go with?
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To be honest, I do not think there is one, not one, Smartwatch /Band that is at this moment 100% recommendable. The Fitbit Sense seems to have every single sensor you could possibly ever want or need but everything I have read says it is way to buggy to be worth the price and they have a Fitbit Premium Plan at $10 a month that I think should be included in the price of the watch since it one of the more expensive watches out there. That and I just don't do the monthly plan stuff for anyone.
Samsung is a big company and has a good reputation but it looks like the latest updates to their watches has disables some of the new features, at least for US users: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83816129&postcount=3088
I also waited for the Amaxfit X for many months as it looks cool but have since cancelled that as it seems way to buggy and most have had nothing but issues with it.
I have read or watched on Youtube just about every review on every device out there and not one ticks all the boxes of what would make a perfect smartwatch or band. Most of the garbage out there is made in China and the software that you have load on the phone to pair the watch with is questionable. Also it seems you have a 50/50 chance of getting a good or bad device if it is made in China. I am not saying that all are bad from China but you really need to research it and look at reviews to see if it is reliable and what the companion software is accessing on your phone.
The Withings Scanwatch: https://www.withings.com/us/en/scanwatch seems like a nice one but with such a small display and not temp sensor for the very high price I do not think it is for me as I am getting up there in the years and my eyes are not what they used to be. I need a bigger display with large fonts to be able to read my data.
It really boils down to what you need on your wrist. Like I said I am older so I would like ECG/BP/SPo2 with Sleep Apnea detection and with Covid a temp sensor all on an easy to read display that can last a week of real time use, not what the manufacture claims but real life use. And I can tell you said Smartwatch/Band does not exist at this moment.
The good news is new devices seem to be coming out on a daily bases so who knows, maybe one will be release very soon that checks all the boxes that I am looking for!
Good luck on your search and lets us know which you end up getting! :highfive:
First you must choose between "Tracker" or "Smartwatch" ?
Smartwatch battery life about 3 days max (Like Samsung Galaxy watch)
Tracker between 1 and 2 weeks. (Like Huawei or Amazfit watch)
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First you must choose between "Tracker" or "Smartwatch" ?
Smartwatch battery life about 3 days max (Like Samsung Galaxy watch)
Tracker between 1 and 2 weeks. (Like Huawei or Amazfit watch)
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Most of the features of a Tracker are already in a Smartwatch, right? I would pick a Smartwatch even though it has less battery life.
dersie said:
First you must choose between "Tracker" or "Smartwatch" ?
Smartwatch battery life about 3 days max (Like Samsung Galaxy watch)
Tracker between 1 and 2 weeks. (Like Huawei or Amazfit watch)
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SirDigitalKnight said:
To be honest, I do not think there is one, not one, Smartwatch /Band that is at this moment 100% recommendable. The Fitbit Sense seems to have every single sensor you could possibly ever want or need but everything I have read says it is way to buggy to be worth the price and they have a Fitbit Premium Plan at $10 a month that I think should be included in the price of the watch since it one of the more expensive watches out there. That and I just don't do the monthly plan stuff for anyone.
Samsung is a big company and has a good reputation but it looks like the latest updates to their watches has disables some of the new features, at least for US users: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83816129&postcount=3088
I also waited for the Amaxfit X for many months as it looks cool but have since cancelled that as it seems way to buggy and most have had nothing but issues with it.
I have read or watched on Youtube just about every review on every device out there and not one ticks all the boxes of what would make a perfect smartwatch or band. Most of the garbage out there is made in China and the software that you have load on the phone to pair the watch with is questionable. Also it seems you have a 50/50 chance of getting a good or bad device if it is made in China. I am not saying that all are bad from China but you really need to research it and look at reviews to see if it is reliable and what the companion software is accessing on your phone.
The Withings Scanwatch: https://www.withings.com/us/en/scanwatch seems like a nice one but with such a small display and not temp sensor for the very high price I do not think it is for me as I am getting up there in the years and my eyes are not what they used to be. I need a bigger display with large fonts to be able to read my data.
It really boils down to what you need on your wrist. Like I said I am older so I would like ECG/BP/SPo2 with Sleep Apnea detection and with Covid a temp sensor all on an easy to read display that can last a week of real time use, not what the manufacture claims but real life use. And I can tell you said Smartwatch/Band does not exist at this moment.
The good news is new devices seem to be coming out on a daily bases so who knows, maybe one will be release very soon that checks all the boxes that I am looking for!
Good luck on your search and lets us know which you end up getting! :highfive:
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Argh, ok This is going to be a hard and long research then. I'm targeting Black Friday to buy one if they ever have sales. I hope I can find one that I like before then.
I must say, the Amazfit X does look cool indeed. Are they continuously fixing things with firmware updates?
there's also the 11.11 sale on aliexpress, gearbest, banggood etc.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/amazfit/amazfit-x-t4164887
That is also my plan for Black Friday. The Honor Band 6 is going to be announced this Tuesday so I am keeping an eye on it.
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Most of the features of a Tracker are already in a Smartwatch, right? I would pick a Smartwatch even though it has less battery life.
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Not really, almost all smartwatch are really POOR tracker. Main default is the sleep tracking, and for track 24/24 we need a not bad battery to keep watch days and night.
95% of the tracker series are really almost 0 smart.
Almost all Chinese tracker are bad tracker.
Stay maybe 2 brands witch are good tracker : Fitbit and Garmin. This 2 brands are also not very good but enough good Smart Thing. Smart mean app store Fitbit has an app store for the Versa series and Garmin has also an app store for most of his tracker Forerunner/Fenix/Vivoactive.
Samsung not bad has tracker and just correct has smartwatch.
Amazfit almost 0 for smart and rather bad as tracker.
What do you guys say about the KoreTrak watch?
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BUMP! Any more ideas here? It's already Black Friday week and I still don't have a choice but I think I'm going with a fitness tracker instead.
Pebble or amazfit bip. Pebble is the best one still imo, Fitbit is overpriced and breaks often, almost no devices have always on display even today, very depressing! Bip can have bipOS installed and does everything I need (notifications, shows time, continuous heart monitor, sleep tracking) and I never have to take it off. It has gps but I don't use that.
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Pebble or amazfit bip. Pebble is the best one still imo, Fitbit is overpriced and breaks often, almost no devices have always on display even today, very depressing! Bip can have bipOS installed and does everything I need (notifications, shows time, continuous heart monitor, sleep tracking) and I never have to take it off. It has gps but I don't use that.
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Can you give me a link to Pebble? I can't seem to find it anywhere unless you're referring to the Kickstarter project that already died?
XDA Pebble section but not much there
Smartwatch is still a very new thing to a lot of people. You don’t absolutely need one to get through the day, and some of the best smartwatches are much too expensive to own and use for daily purpose. The range of fossil men smartwatch is moderately priced with innumerable features. They can provide you with an easy way to get information, allow you to dismiss or reply to new messages without having to pull out your phone, and much more.
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What do you guys say about the KoreTrak watch?
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Hi Kevin, I placed an order for KoreTrak Pro myself. Received it after 3 weeks and it was working fine. But don't expect much as what you'll be getting for such a low price.

If your 6T died today, what new phone would you buy?

Hi folks,
I'm still rocking my stock 6T (Global version) on AT&T. The battery is starting to show its age I think, but other than that it has been perfect. It's in great shape and I'm not planning to change it out any time soon. 2.5 years is already the longest I've ever used a phone.
But, with lots of bad reviews on the newest OnePlus offerings, and the continually steeper prices they are charging, I'm wondering what I would do if something happened to my 6T.
I bought it because of:
Price/Performace ratio
Not tethered to a carrier and minimal crapware
Unlockable/rootable (though, I never did either on this phone)
OnePlus good history of support on prior devices (I also have a 3T, now used as a wifi mini tablet)
So, What would you folks buy if you had to get a new phone today?
May jump to a Pixel. Tried to cop a 8T, but ended up with a incompatible version of it. Even then, By OOS changing soon I want to get even more freedom. It's sad I see a lot of people going to Samsung, which I ain't knocking, But they were the reason why I switched to OnePlus..
Would love to see more responses to this post.
I will be buying a new phone next year and have been asking myself this question.
Ability to root and install custom ROMs means more to me than camera, fingerprint, wireless charging, whatever.
Although a decent camera and waterproofing would be a nice bonus.
If I could I'd go back and get a headphone jack and IR blaster as well. I miss my old HTCs.
"Although a decent camera and waterproofing would be a nice bonus."
For this options iphone is good option
I had a 6T, scratched the screen somehow, got a 7T. Loved it, but switched to a Samsung A71. (easier to get the new stuff to work on my galaxy 3 smart watch than doing a bunch of hacking/loading stuff). Great screen, good battery life. For a midrange, 300 bucks was hard to pass up.
Thanks for all the responses. It seems there's no obvious go-to for us.
Here's what I'd like, coming from the 6T:
Processor: next step up from whatever 6T had when it came up 3 years ago, but I don't need the latest-greatest
Memory: I have a 256GB storage version, with 8GB RAM. This was fine then, and is fine now.
Screen: whatever the 6T has is fine. The tiny notch never bothered me.
Connectivity: Really want 5G support! I don't cycle through phones quickly anymore so want to future proof
Required beyond doubt: in-screen fingerprint reader. Love this! 6T was the first to have it.
Cameras: I'm not a big camera guy but would like a zoom camera on the back (fixed optical zoom camera, or ability to optically zoom). Doesn't have to be best in class, but should be evolved from 6T
Now here's where I get a bit crazy: every phone I buy, I put in a case (I'm using the 6T OnePlus "graphite" case I think). What I'd RATHER have is no need for a case, but a ruggedized phone (waterproof of course) that doesn't need a case. By removing need for a case, the phone dimensions could be the same as the 6T+case. It would give room for a BETTER BATTERY. I'd like the battery to be in the 4500mAh+ plus range.
For god's sakes I wish they would bring back the multicolor LED (I used LightFlow with them in prior phones), but a good implementation of the always-on screen is fine too. But make it highly configurable and energy-sipping.
Software:
Plain vanilla Android. No bloatware. No carrier apps, but compatible with carrier apps for visual voicemail etc. Compatible with wifi calling, VoLTE etc.
Unlockable and rootable. I didn't do either to my 6T but want to know I could.
Price: I'm not looking for a flagship killer. <$600 US.
Better wait for pixel 6 launch and decide based on it, but Samsung i never recommend, if you don't have options then you can purchase mainly because of Exynos processor, grrrrr.....
I hate to say it but ios supports theming that will something mind blowing, thay have powerful hardware but software sucks too many restrictions, i believe i am living under dictatorship when i am using it
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Better wait for pixel 6 launch and decide based on it, but Samsung i never recommend, if you don't have options then you can purchase mainly because of Exynos processor, grrrrr.....
I hate to say it but ios supports theming that will something mind blowing, thay have powerful hardware but software sucks too many restrictions, i believe i am living under dictatorship when i am using it
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Thanks. I'm in no hurry to replace my 6T, but since it's getting up there in age, I have started musing about where to jump if necessary.
An iOS device is out of the question. I have one, for work, and it works fine, but I hate it. Hate it hate it hate it. I'm not saying iPhones are bad; my wife and kids have them and they work great for them. Just, I can't stand using them for more than the basics.
Pixel 6 looks interesting; I quail at the likely high-end price. We will see. I wish there were more options in the "next tier down from flagship" phones out there like OnePlus used to be in the 3T-6T era. No more...
Flagship, sorry it's myth nowadays, why because can you tell any good processor available in market, once upon a time we had kirin from Huawei, but now there's no direct competitor for Qualcomm, so whatever garbage they produce and claiming it the best we need to accept that , look into the 888 series, they are garbage but we don't have any options, we need to accept it and invest in that, i am thinking of using my op6t for another two years, then move to sparkling trending iglore .
Sorry i forgot to add when ever we start 4k video recording in op9pro it's getting overheat so flagship killer mya**, and overpriced because of hasselblad camera, actually they didn't manufactured or designed, and who knows what is the collaboration is, but put the name and sell it for more than thousand dollars, fantastic. I have so many good words to express but this is not the place, so i keep quiet. You know something i brought realme 6 pro for my mother, its camera is fantastic compare to my op6t, it's cost me 250$, this is my last op6t
Only opion Realme GT. Budget and looks good under the hood.
I'll go for pixel.
I'm pretty sure I'll go rogue and bite the Apple.

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