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How to take pictures with xperia z under water?

Xperia Z is a water proof phone that can be used under water. But can its touch screen be used underwater too?
The answer is a big NO! You simply can not use Xperia Z’s touch screen under water whether you want to do anything on your phone.
Why Touch Screen Functionality Doesn’t Work Under Water?
Is it Sony’s manufacturing fault? NO! This is not a fault of Sony, it’s because water conducts electricity.
What functions can be performed?
Play a music before putting it in water, it will not stop
Record Sound
Use Flashlight while making sure its on before going under water
Photography can not be done as it requires touching the screen
What should you do if you want to take a photograph underwater?
As we all very well know that Xperia Z doesn’t have a hardware camera button to take photos so the answer is simple. Set a Timer to take the photo. An alternate method can be to install any other camera app from app store like Camera 360 that lets you set volume buttons as a Camera hardware button to take photos.
Taken from: http://www.neogalaxia.com/2013/06/12/how-to-take-pictures-with-xperia-z-under-water/

deadly46 said:
Xperia Z is a water proof phone that can be used under water. But can its touch screen be used underwater too?
The answer is a big NO! You simply can not use Xperia Z’s touch screen under water whether you want to do anything on your phone.
Why Touch Screen Functionality Doesn’t Work Under Water?
Is it Sony’s manufacturing fault? NO! This is not a fault of Sony, it’s because water conducts electricity.
What functions can be performed?
Play a music before putting it in water, it will not stop
Record Sound
Use Flashlight while making sure its on before going under water
Photography can not be done as it requires touching the screen
What should you do if you want to take a photograph underwater?
As we all very well know that Xperia Z doesn’t have a hardware camera button to take photos so the answer is simple. Set a Timer to take the photo. An alternate method can be to install any other camera app from app store like Camera 360 that lets you set volume buttons as a Camera hardware button to take photos.
Taken from: http://www.neogalaxia.com/2013/06/12/how-to-take-pictures-with-xperia-z-under-water/
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Or there's a mod over here that allows you to use your volume button as a shutter.
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joejoe23 said:
Or there's a mod over here that allows you to use your volume button as a shutter.
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He just copy/pasted the/a misinformed news article or what ever that is, else he would've know that there are mods/apps which let you re-map your hardware buttons to be able to take pictures.

Dsteppa said:
He just copy/pasted the/a misinformed news article or what ever that is, else he would've know that there are mods/apps which let you re-map your hardware buttons to be able to take pictures.
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Haha maybe
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Shall I even bother to reply?
WHY would one want to use this phone to take pictures under water? It is NOT designed with that function in mind. Please do read the manual that came with your XZ before you bugger it up then write here blasting the phone!

Ryland Johnson said:
Shall I even bother to reply?
WHY would one want to use this phone to take pictures under water? It is NOT designed with that function in mind. Please do read the manual that came with your XZ before you bugger it up then write here blasting the phone!
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I thought it says it can survive under water of up to 1 metre for 30 minutes. So why not have some fun photo takings under water? If not its kind of pointless buying this phone.
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The phone is a water resistant phone not a water proof phone
The real idea is for it to survive every day life like getting caught out in the rain, dropping it in the bath or swimming pool
Using buttons under water would certainly risk water ingress
And swimming with it would be a risk, and the warranty does not cover water damage
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sigh...it's always the same...people mistake waterresistant with waterproof.
just because an airbag might save your life in case of a car-crash, you don't drive into a wall on purpose, do you?
waterresistance is your airbag in case your phone gets dropped into water or s.th. like that.

hebbe said:
sigh...it's always the same...people mistake waterresistant with waterproof.
just because an airbag might save your life in case of a car-crash, you don't drive into a wall on purpose, do you?
waterresistance is your airbag in case your phone gets dropped into water or s.th. like that.
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I have been saying EXACTLY the same thing here for months only to be met by general abuse by some owners who are clueless regarding this mobiles water resistance. The water and dust resistance are in case of accidental contact and not to be confused with an industrial made device with underwater capabilities by design..
What ticks me of is when I read threads where owners have the temerity to complain about the XZ when it is damaged due to use in a sauna or after being boiled in soup!
Several posters here have actually copied and attached the Sony guidelines that clearly show what the mobile cannot be exposed to yet some still persist in abusing a domestic phone and thinking the XZ is water proof when it is water resistant and not designed to function under water only survive ACCIDENTAL contact.
I have also said numerous times that its an awful shame that some owners appear to lack the same level of intelligence that the XZ posses!
Have you seen some of the Youtube 'tests'.....more money than sense, take a look at the chocolate clip! Absolutely absurd behaviour.
Regards.

We know you have.........
Do what you want with YOUR phone.
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xchasa said:
We know you have.........
Do what you want with YOUR phone.
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I agree. If you want to possibly destroy your own phone by placing it in situations it wasn't designed to cope with then go ahead. That is your choice.
But don't give people the wrong advice regarding THEIR phone. The only correct answer to give regarding questions on the water resistance of this device is what is written in the manual. End of story.
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For the ones who still want to make small videos of their aquarium or in the swimming pool, I have installed a nice mod that allows you to take photos/videos with the Vol- button
But for rooted devices only...

kingvortex said:
I agree. If you want to possibly destroy your own phone by placing it in situations it wasn't designed to cope with then go ahead. That is your choice.
But don't give people the wrong advice regarding THEIR phone. The only correct answer to give regarding questions on the water resistance of this device is what is written in the manual. End of story.
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I think we would do better trying to pee in the corner of a barrel! I wrote months ago here, when the mobile was released, that we would soon find owners doing the most ill advised things with the XZ due, in part, to Sony's own un wise advertising campaign
It beggars all belief what some people are doing with the XZ. It also beggars belief that after they do these puerile things they come here and write posts complaining about the mobile!.
We have seen them taken into saunas, swimming pools, the sea, lakes, diving, jet skies, cooked in chocolate and boiled in soup? I do ponder what sort of person has the money and total lack of intellect to do some of the things they do with a domestic mobile phone.
Some of the complaints are absolutely absurd. Deliberately dropping the phone onto a concrete floor from various heights to see how many drops it takes before the glass breaks. Hitting it with a lump hammer? Certifiable behaviour.
What can one do?

im using cm10.1 on my z, cm10.1 camera can use power button as shutter

deadly46 said:
The answer is a big NO! You simply can not use Xperia Z’s touch screen under water whether you want to do anything on your phone.
Why Touch Screen Functionality Doesn’t Work Under Water?
Is it Sony’s manufacturing fault? NO! This is not a fault of Sony, it’s because water conducts electricity.
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Actually, it is Sony's fault.
The up-coming Galaxy S4 Active has a screen that will function underwater, so the fact the Z's screen doesn't is simply a reflection of Sony's choice of parts.
As for the comments about how the phone is only water-resistant 'just in case' it gets splashed and that people are reckless to willingly submerge their handsets, that's ridiculous.
The handset is IP57 rated, that guarantees it will survive submersion to a depth of up to 1m for up to 30mins, provided an owner doesn't exceed that they are doing nothing wrong.

IPX rating is there to ensure the phone doesn't get water damaged. Nowhere does this rating mentions that the said device will work normally when submerged. Its just to protect its body and nothing else.
As for taking underwater photos and video with Z, Sony never advertised this nor mentioned it so please don't point fingers at Sony. You simply cannot keep your expectations in check.
The ZR gets a camera button and also has a higher IP rating than the Z. Sony is advertising underwater photography because of the simple fact that the ZR is designed in a way for it.
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TomLopez said:
For the ones who still want to make small videos of their aquarium or in the swimming pool, I have installed a nice mod that allows you to take photos/videos with the Vol- button
But for rooted devices only...
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Our u can chose the camera timer...

As you said, it's not Sony's fault - but it would be nice to introduce power button shutter and "underwater mode" to our XZ Camera app - or at least, explain why it's not possible - if it truly isn't possible or shouldn't be done. I personally don't care about that - but there are tons of people that do.

I dont really get it. I can use the screen of my Xperia Z underwater. Are there different models out ?

msc3169 said:
IPX rating is there to ensure the phone doesn't get water damaged. Nowhere does this rating mentions that the said device will work normally when submerged. Its just to protect its body and nothing else.
As for taking underwater photos and video with Z, Sony never advertised this nor mentioned it so please don't point fingers at Sony. You simply cannot keep your expectations in check.
The ZR gets a camera button and also has a higher IP rating than the Z. Sony is advertising underwater photography because of the simple fact that the ZR is designed in a way for it.
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Here in the Netherlands, they actually show posters with the phone dipped in the water. In the stores there were bowls filled with water where you were able to put it in and I have also seen real life women (sounds nerdy) in showers at the stores, using a XZ.
Maybe they never intended to advertise it like this, but I can defenitely accept why people use it that way.

How many Defy of yours have lost waterproofness?

Hi, fella forumers! I'm just wondering: how many of your Defy have lost (or still retain) its waterproofness up to now?
Mine has lost this quality about half a year ago. At first I noticed that there were vapours gathering inside the screen, which would go away if I opened the back lid for a while. But once the micro-USB port totally stoppoed functioning that I wasn't able to charge the battery, so I have to got it repaired. I was told that circuit board has water stains which caused the malfunctioning...
It's actually my seconf Defy, which was bought in Oct. 2011, after I've forgotten my first Defy in taxi... I was pretty satified with Defy at that moment and really value its waterproofness, so I didn't hesitate to buy a second one while there were already a lot of more advanced (but not waterproofing) smart phones on the market. Therefore, its waterproofness just lasted for roughly two years, which is much shorter than I had expected. I thought for at least five years it would be as new as just rolling out of the assembling line every time I washed it under tap water - but it turned out to be not the truth, sadly.
Well, I have to admit that I did wash my Defy regularly - in fact almost everyday, because - well, 'scientists' say that computer keyboards and mobile phones (previously it was traditional telephone) collect more germs, etc. that toilets. So eveytime I was back home, I just put it under the tap water, briefly let the currents to go through it. It shouldn't hurt, right?
Right now my Defy is completely 'hydrophobic'. I no longer dip it in water. I guess I will continue to use it for a year or two. Still, the fact is not up to my high expectation.
So, I would like to see if this is my own unfortune or a normal phenomenon. It's quite critial to know the result because if I do change my mobile phone, I would definitely choose a waterproofing one still. But now my confidence for such phones has been significantly weakened. If new phones repeat this fate after just a couple of years, I don't think it's really meaningful to pay more money for this not-long-lasting porperty.
Maybe the manufacturing technoligy has already advanced - phones nowadays are tougher than their predecessors?

Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?

My defy is waterproof to a great extent, but steam does enter, and sometimes condenses on the inside of the screen, and the camera lens. But under running water/rain no water enters. I once kept it in a bucket of water for some time, and a few drops made it to the edge, or maybe they came from the cover itself. So, it's good enough for me
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Mine lost 6 months back. the rubber round usb port got deteriorated and then came off. Now i cant cover usb port with the lid. cant find it selling anywhere either.

coldfusionhybrid said:
Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?
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Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.

ymyzhifeng said:
Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.
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The Sony may be ip55/57 but its good enough from what I've read. As for Samsung, I didn't suggest it because I don't like how they design things. Its appalling and I feel as if its insulting the consumer with their designs and material finish. Unfortunately, Samsung is one of the very few manufacturers that constantly deliver on 2 other important things (to me); removable battery and expandable storage. Still won't buy from them. But hey, thats just me. As for Lenovo, I have not tried it yet. Personally, I'm looking at the Xperia ZR at the moment if i choose to change (will still keep my Defy+ as secondary if i change ). A review in case you're interested too
Yeah, nano-coating isn't really water-proofing. I find it more like a water resistant protection. Sometimes there are phone models that become popular to the point that accessory makers produce cases that offer some sort of protection against water/dust. Thats something you can look at as well (with caution of course)

Defy is not water proof, it is water resistant. I did never wash it or put it into water and it is still in good condition (bought 06/2011), now with Android 4.4.
I'm replacing it with an XCover2 (IP67 certified) and also there the manual warns to immerse it in water although it has an underwater camera.

[q] looking for an android smartwatch for swimming/surfing

Hi everyone,
As said on tittle, I'm looking for a smart watch with the following requisites:
- Android complete 4.2 or higher
- Cell phone itself (gsm/wcdma)
- IP68?
I need it for swimming/surfing/similar, due to my work, I need to be contactable (calls/email) everytime, and sometimes I go swimming/surfing.
I bought an Imacwear M7, but the people said it's not ip67 and that it will die if I use it on the sea.
Does anyone tried this? Any other smartwatch? Any other options?
I'm a little bit lost, need your opinion and/or experience
Thanks a lot

none of the standalone (phone) watches will be fully water proof, because of microphone/speaker, if ever there will be one
some of them might claim water resistance but i wouldn't wear them not in shallow water, let alone the sea
the Sony Smartwatch 2 for example, claims to be ip57, but can't survive a shower. that watch doesn't even have a microphone or speaker
might be build quality related though

Swimming and surfing plus speaker and mic? That's 1 ATM (10m/30ft) rating at a minimum. No such creature exists, yet. It is possible to do, but companies would rather sell fashion smartwatches with laughable IP ratings instead.

Send it away and have it Liquipelled. http://www.liquipel.com/

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Send it away and have it Liquipelled. http://www.liquipel.com/
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Don't waste your money. Tried that on three smartwatches, as well as a fourth project smartwatch of my own. It doesn't work. The treatment wears off when it comes in contact with pretty much anything. Oil deposits in the air from cooking, your skin, cloth, sand, dirt.

airtemisa said:
Hi everyone,
As said on tittle, I'm looking for a smart watch with the following requisites:
- Android complete 4.2 or higher
- Cell phone itself (gsm/wcdma)
- IP68?
I need it for swimming/surfing/similar, due to my work, I need to be contactable (calls/email) everytime, and sometimes I go swimming/surfing.
I bought an Imacwear M7, but the people said it's not ip67 and that it will die if I use it on the sea.
Does anyone tried this? Any other smartwatch? Any other options?
I'm a little bit lost, need your opinion and/or experience
Thanks a lot
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I use Tempo Trainer Pro watch. U can find it here http://www.proswimwear.co.uk/ . It's includes a clip for dry land exercise. I am sure you will find it better then apple watch or Garmin.

I still havent found what im looking for...

Like I said before, no such creature exists. The best you can hope for is a regular smartwatch and then have somebody like me mod it to get it to a 1ATM (33ft) WR rating.

Hi lokifish Marz.... I´ve been thinking about doing that in my M7 smartwatch, but finally never tried it.
If finally doesnt appear that desired model, i will try to mod it for submersing

The M7 is like the Omate and is a serious pain to get IP67, much less anything better than that. About the only sort of easy way to get past a useless IP rating is fill the entire case with RTV silicone sealant, otherwise you are looking at a complete teardown and machine work.

I've been trying with liquid neoprene. It seals perfectly, very fluid, very good handling and also cheap!
Now I need to identify all the holes of the watch and work then properly.... It should work!

List of ingress points that need to be addressed to reach a minimum of 1 ATM water resistance needed for swimming/surfing;
Case back (requires complete redesign of seals or permanent sealing of back to case)
Case back screws and screw holes (requires complete redesign of seals or permanent sealing of screws into the case)
Buttons (requires complete redesign of button seals)
Camera (requires removal and filling of camera housing of replacement of housing glass)
Speaker (requires secondary sealing layer between speaker and outside)
Mic (requires secondary sealing layer between MIC and outside)
SIM Slot Door (requires sealing of screw holes and better gasket)
Charging contacts (requires the contact assembly in the case back be remounted and sealed using marine epoxy)
Display (requires the case be redesigned or pressure injecting sealant or marine epoxy from the backside)
Antenna ports (requires the bands be removed, the ports cleaned out. The bands then need remounting and a stiff silicone sealant be injected into the ports)
MIC and speaker secondary seal will negatively affect audio performance. This is however required as MIC and speaker damage will occur otherwise.
Display sealing issues are due to the lack of a large enough lip for the display to be mounted on to provide a proper seal
*Alternative approach (Untested)
Completely seal the display,PCB, SD Card, SIM Card, and battery in one solid block of silicone or some other water resistant material. Drawback is this seriously affects usability of the buttons, camera, MIC, and speaker. This also makes SIM, SDCard and battery swapping impossible.
(I've had over two years to think about this as well as attempt to get the TS and it's clones to pass a proper 24hr immersion test at 10m/33ft/1ATM. To date, I have not succeeded.)

Uffff.... so... you need to do a master.... its a marathon!
Thanks Lokifish... i think maybe i wont try...

i95,android 4.3,ip65,dial/answer phone call,you can know more from tinydeal.but i think Lokifish is right,no smartwatch can survive after a long time in the sea.

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i think Lokifish is right,no smartwatch can survive after a long time in the sea.
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Not exactly true. If he wanted a companion smartwatch it's not the hard at all. The issue is with him wanting to be able to do that with a standalone, or otherwise known as a watchphone. That requires far more engineering. The closest he could get to any out of the box solution would be the massive Timex Ironman ONE GPS+ and all that would give him is something similar to SMS texts and that's it. The other option is a decently made standalone then seal it completely with a SIM inside. He would lose the mic and speaker function but would at least be able to send/receive texts and know who's trying to call him. Not a pretty solution but it would work.

I think i´ve got it!
Doodgee S1.
I dont link to any shop, but you can find it very easy. I´m waiting for some reviews...

airtemisa said:
I think i´ve got it!
Doodgee S1.
I dont link to any shop, but you can find it very easy. I´m waiting for some reviews...
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Again, ignore any IP67 rated. IP67 is 1m/3ft immersion with absolutely no moving allowed.

I agree with Lokifish - I don't think that animal exists. I just bought the No 1 A10 to evaluate it for workouts, including swimming...
http://www.gearbest.com/smart-watches/pp_286212.html
...and am looking at the D5 for "office wear". I have to admit that I'm more attracted to the idea of "one watch to rule them all" - but - I'm also looking at $56 for the A10 (I bought it when it was on sale) and $130 or so for the D5 (or similar) so for the total outlay it's a pretty compelling use case. I was an original Omate TrueSmart backer and was profoundly disappointed. After spending $360++ for a watch that *wasn't* waterproof I went the "dedicated exercise computer as a watch" route - in the form of the Polar V800. I had to wait another year or so for smart notifications to show up (for Android) and Polar *still* hasn't done some basic data integration with 3rd parties like MyFitnessPal and the like. That was another $500+ and it *still* doesn't collect accurate heart rate data in the water. So - there's that... and of course there's no *real* smartwatch functionality to speak of.
I had considered the Garmin fenix 3 - and the recent addition of on-device HRM is interesting - but I'm mostly a swimmer so I'm going to be using a chest-worn device if I go that route. But *if* I did that it would be another $600-800 plus the cost of their data-recording HRM strap. As it stands now - I'm done with dropping multiple C-notes onto one-off projects and half baked tech from "the big companies". I'm going to nickel-and-dime my way through and figure out a way to make it work with multiple devices (with a LOT of help from my friends at XDA). I have the Bragi Dash coming in (sometime in February at last count) which I'm hoping will give me accurate HRM/oximetry data while swimming - and I'll be working to merge that data with the stroke/SWOLF data I gather from the wrist-worn device.
Side note: One of the advantages of the dual-device theory just occurred to me - in that I *can* carry a portable battery-pack charger and have one on charge when the other is on my wrist. So there's some element of continuity/back-up, should something go sideways with one device or another. When my TrueSmart would go dead I felt pretty naked, when it worked and was relatively performant from a battery perspective.
Anyway, I think this class of device will take some time to sort out as the companies figure out what the market(s) will bear in terms of durability and cost.

WTH - Now Sony Says the Z Series Is NOT Waterproof?!

There have been a number of posts about water damage on the Z series phones for years. Some have even accused these phones of not being truly waterproof. Now, even Sony agrees:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/10/sony-changes-stance-on-waterproof-phones-do-not-use-underwater/
This completely sucks since Sony spent $$$$ advertising the waterproof nature of their devices. We should all be getting our money back for false advertising (ha - like that will ever happen).

Why we need threads like this always ><"
I had a z2 and toked it under the shower and recorded my son and wife in the swimming pool and even under water for more then 5 min and same did it with my z3 and all os working still fine and no damage !!
I guess you keep the flaps open.
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I think they are afraid too many people will take the waterproof part for granted, ignoring the chlorine/salt water warning leading to returns for failures. Also there were a sizable minority whose phones weren't properly sealed even with flaps closed (factory defect). All that makes a big difference in relation to returns and customer service issues.
I always saw the waterproof feature as accident protection more than something to purposely take advantage of, despite Sony's advertising.
Basically they are just playing it safe, I don't blame them for that (My opinion). Others may have differing opinions though.

I wouldn't put mine under water even if they were 100% sure it wouldn't get damaged. It's more of a safety feature for me.
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Always looked at it more water resistant than "proof", the iP rating even says resistant

sherlock5545 said:
I wouldn't put mine under water even if they were 100% sure it wouldn't get damaged. It's more of a safety feature for me.
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Please explain the safety hazard of using a sealed, low voltage device in water.
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He meant, he sees it as accident protection more than something to be purposely taken advantage of.

I knew it. Sony just made this statement because of those (sorry) dumb or not so smart people who dunk their z series to salt water, chlorinated water, or chlorinated swimming pool. Sony had enough for them and consumers always mock them like crazy because their phones got dead. To clear things up, they made this statement, to me, there are a lot of consumers who experienced great things with their z series, like they luckily dunk their phones to water and nothing happened, it still works perfectly. But some of the unlucky ones didn't go that well.
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Anyone in the UK fancy trying to claim the product was miss-sold to them? I'd guess a complaint to Trading Standards, your mobile network and Sony would have to be upheld. There is no shortage of promotional material from both Sony and Mobile Networks selling the z3 as the phone you can use underwater...

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Anyone in the UK fancy trying to claim the product was miss-sold to them? I'd guess a complaint to Trading Standards, your mobile network and Sony would have to be upheld. There is no shortage of promotional material from both Sony and Mobile Networks selling the z3 as the phone you can use underwater...
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Seriously, did you not even read the article?! It shows example after example of Sony's advertising explicitly calling the phone "waterproof" and being used while completely submerged in water. Some ads even show it being used in a chlorinated pool. MY BAD!!!
The phone was always advertised as being IP68 rated, meaning fully submersible to 1.5m for 30 min. Now Sony says you can't even do that. Stop defending Sony's lawyers and call them out for the false advertising that they used.
And it was because of so many people on XDA creating threads about their water damaged phones that prevented me from submerging mine. Otherwise, I would have taken it into a pool just as Sony's advertising suggests. It could have been just fine, or it could have irreparably damaged my phone. I'm just no longer willing to take that risk knowing that even Sony won't stand behind their product.

This is a pretty big hit to Sony, or should I say another hit. I really like Sony devices and have owned many so this won't stop me from purchasing a Z5 but you have to wonder how this effects the global market share and Sony's viability in the mobile device market.

I have first Z, Z1s and now Z3. I also have Z tablet and Z2 tablet. I used them all in water either washed them or in the pools without any problem.
So I'm not sure what Sony tried to do with their statements.
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There's a pretty big conversation here over at /r/Android. Maybe you can find some explanation. Personally I just think they changed it because there are idiots who kept getting water in.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3kg50z/sony_changes_stance_on_waterproof_phones_do_not/
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Bull****
I just had to send mine to Sonys repair center 2 weeks ago. After using it under water for 5 minutes or less, making sure that the flaps were well closed an not going deeper than 1 meter, the touchscreen stopped working. Beside that, everything was working fine, being able to still using it after connecting a mouse. Luckily they repaired it without any comments but in the technical paper work they do not mention anything about the reason that lead to this. At the shop where I left it, the worker told me that Sony repairs an average of 2-3 devices out of 10 that broke after water damage. The thing is that you can't prove that you have closed well the flaps, and you can't prove that the technician did perform a vacuum test or not to check the devices sealing when they recieved it. All this said, people that do submerge it are at Sonys mercy...so better buy a water resistant bag or case for it, if there is any one to avoid some bad surprises. The phone is on the way and maybe with it I will receive a more detailed explanation of the situation. These are the components that they supposedly replaced:
Screw Other Len:2.6 Diam:1.4
Adhesive Battery Rear
Adhesive Battery Rear 2
Adhesive Rear Panel
Cushion Battery
Technical comments:
Terminal reparado en garantía, funciona correctamente. Se ha realizado un cambio de frontal, actualización de software a la última versión y reseteo del terminal.
Made me laugh, they performed a FRONT change, they keep the vocabulary very ambiguous to avoid generalizing the devices issues. I really expected more from this company.

Kraftwerk87 said:
I just had to send mine to Sonys repair center 2 weeks ago. After using it under water for 5 minutes or less, making sure that the flaps were well closed an not going deeper than 1 meter, the touchscreen stopped working. Beside that, everything was working fine, being able to still using it after connecting a mouse. Luckily they repaired it without any comments but in the technical paper work they do not mention anything about the reason that lead to this. At the shop where I left it, the worker told me that Sony repairs an average of 2-3 devices out of 10 that broke after water damage. The thing is that you can't prove that you have closed well the flaps, and you can't prove that the technician did perform a vacuum test or not to check the devices sealing when they recieved it. All this said, people that do submerge it are at Sonys mercy...so better buy a water resistant bag or case for it, if there is any one to avoid some bad surprises. The phone is on the way and maybe with it I will receive a more detailed explanation of the situation. These are the components that they supposedly replaced:
Screw Other Len:2.6 Diam:1.4
Adhesive Battery Rear
Adhesive Battery Rear 2
Adhesive Rear Panel
Cushion Battery
Technical comments:
Terminal reparado en garantía, funciona correctamente. Se ha realizado un cambio de frontal, actualización de software a la última versión y reseteo del terminal.
Made me laugh, they performed a FRONT change, they keep the vocabulary very ambiguous to avoid generalizing the devices issues. I really expected more from this company.
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Your situation is typical of other members of this forum. You used the phone as advertised and it failed. I'm not saying you're the majority, but I disagree with those who claim user error. From what I've seen numerous times on this forum, the water doesn't usually enter through the flaps. Many have claimed that the moisture indicator behind the flap never changes color, so it is failing somewhere else.
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GUYS!! This is a misunderstanding by XperiaBlog. Z3+ & Z5 are NOT fully waterproof, because the USB port is not protected. Everything else still is...

It looks like a paradox. I cannot use my phone underwater though it's said to be waterproof.

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Seriously, did you not even read the article?! It shows example after example of Sony's advertising explicitly calling the phone "waterproof" and being used while completely submerged in water. Some ads even show it being used in a chlorinated pool.
The phone was always advertised as being IP68 rated, meaning fully submersible to 1.5m for 30 min. Now Sony says you can't even do that. Stop defending Sony's lawyers and call them out for the false advertising that they used.
And it was because of so many people on XDA creating threads about their water damaged phones that prevented me from submerging mine. Otherwise, I would have taken it into a pool just as Sony's advertising suggests. It could have been just fine, or it could have irreparably damaged my phone. I'm just no longer willing to take that risk knowing that even Sony won't stand behind their product.
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Seriously, did you not even read the post you are replying to? You are saying exactly the same thing.

coch said:
Seriously, did you not even read the post you are replying to? You are saying exactly the same thing.
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Wow - yeah, I totally misread his post!
*inserts foot into mouth*

I think it said somewhere that Sony changed its recommendations but not their warranty. You can take it under water, you will get a free repair if it fails. But to keep everyone from doing it Sony has stopped promoting that behaviour.

SHOULD Sony cover water damage on the Z5 and Z5P?

OK, So, in another forum (Z5P Waterproof Test) I was discussing whether Sony should cover water damage due the claim the Z5P (and other Xperia Z phones) are marketed as waterproof with user KbaB.BroS.
I am curious as to others' opinions on the matter. Obviously we all know that Sony do not cover it under the warranty, but do you think they should?

There restrictions to it being water proof. They do cover it in a case by case basis. For example if it fails the pressure test or not. I seen devices get replaced if it failed, and you can tell it wasn't tampered with. Some people claim they didn't tamper it, but they have dropped their phones more than a handful of times(I believe this was like during the time of the Z1 and you could clearly see dents). If it failed the pressure test then your device isn't waterproof and could be the result of a manufacturers defect(hence why it is covered). Every time I use these devices near water I do a generic pressure test using the test menu just to be safe than sorry. So far it has not failed me.

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There restrictions to it being water proof. They do cover it in a case by case basis. For example if it fails the pressure test or not. I seen devices get replaced if it failed, and you can tell it wasn't tampered with. Some people claim they didn't tamper it, but they have dropped their phones more than a handful of times(I believe this was like during the time of the Z1 and you could clearly see dents). If it failed the pressure test then your device isn't waterproof and could be the result of a manufacturers defect(hence why it is covered). Every time I use these devices near water I do a generic pressure test using the test menu just to be safe than sorry. So far it has not failed me.
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Like this one:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=gowiththejoe.xperiawaterresistance

not sure how that one works, but I use the one in their test menu. I should check that one out though beats going into the dialer

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not sure how that one works, but I use the one in their test menu. I should check that one out though beats going into the dialer
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Just checked. They work the same way, but with that app you get a message that says your phone "probably" is waterproof if the pressure rises.