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Man....I can't tell... with the stock music player versus power amp, is there a difference between sound quality? This comparison is with eq and tone controls off in poweramp.
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Man....I can't tell... with the stock music player versus power amp, is there a difference between sound quality? This comparison is with eq and tone controls off in poweramp.
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there might be.. Try them out and see.
Edit: oops.. I guess if you can't tell it doesn't matter
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if you want differences in sound quality, try a kernel with Voodoo Sound. I recommend Netarchy's 1.2.5a/1.2.8 BFS or CFS. when you flash this kernel, get Voodoo Control from the market
I love the sound quality I get out of powersmp. But then again I haven't tried messing with the voodoo sound stuff.
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if you want differences in sound quality, try a kernel with Voodoo Sound. I recommend Netarchy's 1.2.5a/1.2.8 BFS or CFS. when you flash this kernel, get Voodoo Control from the market
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^this. Voodoo sound will blow you away.
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ya'll didn't see my signature? can there be a voodoo patched kernel with color only? no.
i wasn't asking for a better sounding qaulity media player. i was asking if there is an actual diff. between sound quality/personality with stock media player versus poweramp(with it's tone and eq settings off).
Voodoo and poweramp is AWESOME. Non voodoo i like lithium player best
dman777 said:
ya'll didn't see my signature? can there be a voodoo patched kernel with color only? no.
i wasn't asking for a better sounding qaulity media player. i was asking if there is an actual diff. between sound quality/personality with stock media player versus poweramp(with it's tone and eq settings off).
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And I wasn't being out of relevance but helping you by telling you to get Voodoo Sound.
Voodoo sound + Poweramp will make cause a eargasm.
So get it. If you don't like the kernel.. you can disable it or revert back to your previous kernel.
How did this topic become "Is Voodoo sound good"? I already have voodoo sound! I have had voodoo sound! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VOODOO SOUND. I just want to know if there is a diff. in sound personality between the 2 media players: Poweramp and Stock Media player
Poweramp is much better. It actually has an EQ plus a ton of other settings.
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This still ignores the OP's very good question - we know Power Amp has better eq and interface than the stock player, but does it actually sound better than stock with eq switched off? I tried to compare the two using my Etymotic Research ER4 earphones which are very revealing - for me the stock player sounded a bit muddier than Power Amp with slightly less detail coming through , but saying that it was a smoother sound easier on the ears which may benefit earphones with less bass. Winamp seems somewhere in between but I need to do more comparisons with different music. However good Power amp's eq may be, it is always better to have this switched off if your earphones and source material are up to it.
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Is there really a difference? Aren't they both (all music players for that matter) using hardware deciding and/or Android sound stream api? They should sound the same as if I wrote my own player in a dozen lines, right?
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I think the difference is in how the players are configured for flat response - the stock player, not having any built in eq seems warmer than power amp - this gives it good alround compabilty with a variety of earphones. Power amp on the other hand is less coloured to my ears resulting in a flatter spectrum - I think this is actually more accurate, but less forgiving of poor sources and earphones. Personally I get a better sound from power amp. Voodoo makes both sound fantastic though - easily as good if not better than my X series Sony Walkman.
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I find Power Amp to have a fuller sound (without tone or eq) than stock. It also seems to highlight treble sounds a little better. (I'm no audiophile) Just my opinion that's probably wrong
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This still ignores the OP's very good question - we know Power Amp has better eq and interface than the stock player, but does it actually sound better than stock with eq switched off? I tried to compare the two using my Etymotic Research ER4 earphones which are very revealing - for me the stock player sounded a bit muddier than Power Amp with slightly less detail coming through , but saying that it was a smoother sound easier on the ears which may benefit earphones with less bass. Winamp seems somewhere in between but I need to do more comparisons with different music. However good Power amp's eq may be, it is always better to have this switched off if your earphones and source material are up to it.
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Yes, thank you.
Here are my findings so far...this is with using only the eq in cm7 rc2. Not using any tone adjustments in the players:
1) Stock- Has the best sound stage and mids. Meaning stereo seperation is really good. However, bass is not as tight as the others and highs not as sharp as the others. The sound signature did have a more full sound(all instruments were fully present without some being muted). This player had the best natural non colored sound also. Missing Que option...big burden for me.
2) PowerAmp- Had the punchiest tightest bass and the sharpest and cleanest highs. Mids were so so. Sound stage(stereo seperation) was the worse of the three. lestioning to regage some detail on instruments were muted since the mids were recessed and sound stage was minimal. The sound signature was the most colored...unnatural(this was with the eq and tone settings off). This had the best GUI interface.
3) Winamp- inbetween the stock player and Poweramp. Although the stock player still had a significantly better sound stage. Interface was ugly. But had good functionality like Poweramp(like que option).
If the stock player had a que option I would just stick with that. Wish it did
I used Super hi pro inner cannal buds to test. I will test again with Shure headphones which will be a better test.
I'd be interested if supercurio had a take on this?
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Really? I'd love a developer's explanation if there is an actual difference in audio stream playback. I just can't imagine any of the devs reinventing the wheel for decoding mp3.
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I feel like PowerAMP has some issues with flat non-EQ playback. Def sounds way off compared to any other players, and devices as well. I can play the same file off PowerAMP, Winamp, stock player, and an MP3-CD, and the latter 3 will sound relatively the same. PowerAMP, on the other hand, sounds quiet, completely lacking mid and bass, and too heavy on the highs
To restate the op's observation that they can't tell the difference, I would still love to hear some objective comparison. With eq off, shouldn't poweramp sound exactly the same?
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I have a very faint memory of hearing something about PowerAmp uses its own decoder? If that's the case, then I can imagine it would sound different. I personally use Rockbox, it uses its own highly efficient and quality decoder. Though, I've not really compared the sound quality to the stock player, can't really say which sounds better.
Hi,
I am not much of a hard core audiophile and I can settle with almost any sound quality, but I recently bought a decent mid-range IEM, the Sony HM1. So, I wonder if there is any way to be sure that I get the best S3 has to give. I use:
-Sony HM1
-Rocket player (paid version, the one with the unlocked equalizer).
-At least 192bit rated MP3s.
-Volume enhancer mod
So, is there any other mod, program or anything else that can take full advantage of S3's potential, if any? Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704138
Your question has been posted multiple times . Forum rules require you to search before posting .
Google <<< I9300 your search terms > xda
Sound Thread .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
Try Viper4Android .
I posted these questions right after I read some pages of that threat and I was just hoping for a medium-sized sum or a small guide with the steps necessary. I will move my question there then, thanks and sorry.
one word. poweramp. no other mods/apps needed. Best audio comes from poweramp. Must be stupid to argue against that.
Sammy GS3 + Nothing = Decent Audio
Melissakis said:
Hi,
I am not much of a hard core audiophile and I can settle with almost any sound quality, but I recently bought a decent mid-range IEM, the Sony HM1. So, I wonder if there is any way to be sure that I get the best S3 has to give. I use:
-Sony HM1
-Rocket player (paid version, the one with the unlocked equalizer).
-At least 192bit rated MP3s.
-Volume enhancer mod
So, is there any other mod, program or anything else that can take full advantage of S3's potential, if any? Thanks!
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In all honesty, to get the best sound you need good source and as you rightly did, at least 192kbps audio. But I have numerous songs that sound much better at 320 than 192 and when played back side by side, you hear the diff. My father who is half deaf heard it.
My recommendation for music is simple, highest bitrate you can afford given the storage you have (getting a 64gb Micro SD card remedies that issue quickly, the Samsung model is the best i've use so far), equalisers and volume normalisers are just to flavour the music to your taste, more bass here, a little mid there, or to compensate for a particular bias your headphone may have. I use a Senheisser HD 201 and HD 202. The 201 is flat and pure, the 202 is bassy and wild so i adjust to suit. FYI I'm current using JetAudio Pro with the AM3D Effects set to 40 and 50.
Hope this helps.
Btw, if you just looking for louder, the tablets, Nexus 7 and the like have higher volume outputs on their headphone jacks so be aware of that.
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Hope this helps.
Btw, if you just looking for louder, the tablets, Nexus 7 and the like have higher volume outputs on their headphone jacks so be aware of that.
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It sure did, thanks! Having high bitrate and a decent IEM, I just wanted to be sure that S3's hardware has no room for improvements, a better kernel or some other tweak.
About Nexus 7, are you sure it has higher output? I have both S3 and Nexus 7 and I just tried it, on the same volume level, S3 is way more louder. Just bear in mind that I used this sound enhancement tweak on S3.
Pure audio and Wolfson Sound engine, Poweramp with all post processing turned off.
That is all
Cameltoemcgee said:
Pure audio and Wolfson Sound engine, Poweramp with all post processing turned off.
That is all
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Poweramp, check.
About the other two, could you be more specific? I'm a noob. About the Pure audio, I know that's it's a flashable zip, does it give me after the flashing a app that tweaks the sound? And what about wolfson sound engine, could you please give me a link?
Currently I use googy-max kernel, which enables the wolfson sound engine via STweaks. Would it be better to use something else? Maybe all of these questions have already been answered, but it's very difficult to collect all the info available. Thank you all!
Melissakis said:
Poweramp, check.
About the other two, could you be more specific? I'm a noob. About the Pure audio, I know that's it's a flashable zip, does it give me after the flashing a app that tweaks the sound? And what about wolfson sound engine, could you please give me a link?
Currently I use googy-max kernel, which enables the wolfson sound engine via STweaks. Would it be better to use something else? Maybe all of these questions have already been answered, but it's very difficult to collect all the info available. Thank you all!
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Sure! i use googymax too with the wolfson engine, my settings are: headphone equalizer: Enable WITHOUT saturation Prevention.
EQ Presets: Use graphical equalizer
at the bottom of stweaks i turn on DAC direct and DAC oversampling but leave the others.
Pure audio - flash the zip, make sure that DSP manager isn't installed otherwise it'll do nothing. remove it with titanium backup if you hvae it.
pure audio doesn't give you options to adjust because you don't need it. it won't give you any indication that its running when you're listening to music either... but you'll know if you've done it right
If you do feel the need to adjust eq, then use the eq in Stweaks, or poweramp even if you find it easier.
Hope it helps!
Cameltoemcgee said:
Sure! i use googymax too with the wolfson engine, my settings are: headphone equalizer: Enable WITHOUT saturation Prevention.
EQ Presets: Use graphical equalizer
at the bottom of stweaks i turn on DAC direct and DAC oversampling but leave the others.
Pure audio - flash the zip, make sure that DSP manager isn't installed otherwise it'll do nothing. remove it with titanium backup if you hvae it.
pure audio doesn't give you options to adjust because you don't need it. it won't give you any indication that its running when you're listening to music either... but you'll know if you've done it right
If you do feel the need to adjust eq, then use the eq in Stweaks, or poweramp even if you find it easier.
Hope it helps!
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Thank you so much for the reply, you've cleared everything out!
Guys there is a way to improve audio notes 4 without root permissions? I tried poweramp and jetaudio set, but I'm really sad, use well xiami piston 2 but the results are mediocre
if you use stock music and video apps you could consider using adapt sound.
it is an extra "equalizer" that lets you test your ears and audio equipment, and compensate for any shortcomings.
it is built into all recent samsung devices.
thedicemaster said:
if you use stock music and video apps you could consider using adapt sound.
it is an extra "equalizer" that lets you test your ears and audio equipment, and compensate for any shortcomings.
it is built into all recent samsung devices.
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ok, but does not improve the power, hope note note 5 is not so mediocre
it actually also boosts volume a bit when in use(unless you use very bad headphones/speakers)
Hello Guys,
So, audio is a completely new territory for me, and as such I have very little to no idea about the current audio mods or the individual audio packages. I wanted to discuss the various mods available currently and their current effect on our devices, the reason this is necessary is because although we have the Marshmallow on our devices, the hardware is getting a tad bit old and a mod which might be compatible with our software may not get the best optimised output from the hardware. Hope you are getting me there. I wanted to discuss the currently available options by the means of trial and testing using 5-10 mods, or gathering reviews from people who are actually using these mods, based on their performance on Phone Speaker, Headphones, AUX, Wireless Speakers and dock.
Going through XDA I found a couple of mods which I am listing (kindly add to the list if you can) below, if anyone has tried these please put our reviews and opinions in the thread,
1. Ac!D Audio (only for SG S3) *
2. XtremeBeats SuperMod *
3. eXtremeBeats Audio Mod *
4. Viper4Android
5. Dolby Digital Plus
6. Beats Audio
7. Dolby Atmos
8. Pure Audio Engine 2.0
9. MaxxAudio (#)
10. IRS SoundMod
11. Am3D Zirene Audio Fx
* - Mod Packages containing Multiple individual audio Mods
# - Stable version not available for android M
>> Another thing that I wanted to clarify was that, each mod works differently on different devices so i would prefer a non biased opinion based on usage and not on the popularity of the mod. Many times even a single mod can play better than a mod package containing multiple mods, hence i'll try to put forward the best audio configuration by the time this thread runs it's course. Kindly Help me do it
Let's Make the best audio Possible!
Cheers,
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I'd stay with stock audio stuff, afaik the i9300 has a high-quality DAC (don't quote me on that) but no kernel is enabling the full potential of it(CN).
All equlizers seem to add virtual "surround" which IMO ruines the quality of whatever I'm listening to.
Hawaii_Beach said:
I'd stay with stock audio stuff, afaik the i9300 has a high-quality DAC (don't quote me on that) but no kernel is enabling the full potential of it(CN).
All equlizers seem to add virtual "surround" which IMO ruines the quality of whatever I'm listening to.
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true that, virtual surround is useless unless we have an external sound system, but i think boeffla kernel does use the full DAC potential ? or not?
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true that, virtual surround is useless unless we have an external sound system, but i think boeffla kernel does use the full DAC potential ? or not?
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No, it has not; proof (read whole thread).
Looking at the features of the boeffla kernel, there's no "high-quality audio" feature.
Why are you using the boeffla kernel if running CM13? As far as I see there were never a update to fully support CM13.
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No, it has not; proof (read whole thread).
Looking at the features of the boeffla kernel, there's no "high-quality audio" feature.
Why are you using the boeffla kernel if running CM13? As far as I see there were never a update to fully support CM13.
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there is a beta version v5-29 , and i am not actually using it currently, just downloading it currently to use with rr v5.6.8
Hawaii_Beach said:
No, it has not; proof (read whole thread).
Looking at the features of the boeffla kernel, there's no "high-quality audio" feature.
Why are you using the boeffla kernel if running CM13? As far as I see there were never a update to fully support CM13.
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i read the thread, seems we are doomed, unless a developer actually has implemented the sound feature and just has failed to mention it. Anyways are there any active kernel developers for s3? boeffla has given the kernels an eol status, maybe we could request any other developer to include the sound feature in his kernel.
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i read the thread, seems we are doomed, unless a developer actually has implemented the sound feature and just has failed to mention it. Anyways are there any active kernel developers for s3? boeffla has given the kernels an eol status, maybe we could request any other developer to include the sound feature in his kernel.
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As I said, it's a waste of time.
24bit 192kHz?
First of all, 24 bit? Unless you're modifying sound files like a pro with a application which even supports 24 bit sound on Android (which I suspects does) exist, you won't benefit in sound quality.
192kHz? This is just too much; you ears can't even pick up that noise and sound files in that res are heavy.
Hawaii_Beach said:
As I said, it's a waste of time.
24bit 192kHz?
First of all, 24 bit? Unless you're modifying sound files like a pro with a application which even supports 24 bit sound on Android (which I suspects does) exist, you won't benefit in sound quality.
192kHz? This is just too much; you ears can't even pick up that noise and sound files in that res are heavy.
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i agree with you on the 192kHz , but 24bit is actually good, if we use some good quality headphones, the sound files may become heavy though, i agree.. althought xtremeMusic does resample the sound to make it better, best have a look.
[email protected][email protected] said:
i read the thread, seems we are doomed, unless a developer actually has implemented the sound feature and just has failed to mention it. Anyways are there any active kernel developers for s3? boeffla has given the kernels an eol status, maybe we could request any other developer to include the sound feature in his kernel.
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although honestly speaking, complete support, even if it's not actually used, might benefit people who are very into music..
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i agree with you on the 192kHz , but 24bit is actually good, if we use some good quality headphones, the sound files may become heavy though, i agree.. althought xtremeMusic does resample the sound to make it better, best have a look.
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No, do your homework. 24 bit does not sound better than 16 bit. Google it youself.
Hawaii_Beach said:
No, do your homework. 24 bit does not sound better than 16 bit. Google it youself.
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as i said i have no idea about audio, although i did think that 24 bit audio is better, i did my homework and found this http://tweakheadz.com/16-bit-vs-24-bit-audio/ , guess 24 bit means better quality , not better sound, if that makes any sense.
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as i said i have no idea about audio, although i did think that 24 bit audio is better, i did my homework and found this http://tweakheadz.com/16-bit-vs-24-bit-audio/ , guess 24 bit means better quality , not better sound, if that makes any sense.
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Professionals record their audio in 24 bit which makes the audio easier to edit as there's more depth.
It does not add quality to the sound at all. You never export a 24 bit audio file to public, do more homework
Hawaii_Beach said:
Professionals record their audio in 24 bit which makes the audio easier to edit as there's more depth.
It does not add quality to the sound at all. You never export a 24 bit audio file to public, do more homework
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meh.. i have a lot of school work going on and there's this more homework.. meh.. guess i'll study about audio coming Sunday, -_- too much to learn xD
I will have to hijack your thread to announce that both of you should do MORE homework on audio. The Wolfson WM1811A Audio Hub Codec, because it has DACs, ADCs, FLLs and much more than just a DAC, is in fact capable of 24bit/96kHz.
The thing about bit depth in audio has been disputed over and over, it is just a matter of preference really, with FLAC and other uncompressed formats gaining popularity with the rise of quality in the hardware department. Going to audio editing, even a 15-year old can use Audacity. Not to talk about Sony's Sound Forge Audio Studio.
Another thing is that AGNi Kernel, at least for i9305 has Boeffla Sound Engine, that coupled with Wolfson Preset 5 or 7, makes listening to music, ofc in combination with Viper4Android and PowerAmp, a total dream. Oh, and also one more thing, IRS SoundMod is a package of Impulse Response Samples (hence the name IRS) for Viper4Android, so that is no sound mod.
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i agree with you on the 192kHz , but 24bit is actually good, if we use some good quality headphones, the sound files may become heavy though, i agree.. althought xtremeMusic does resample the sound to make it better, best have a look.
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I have i9300 on stock 4.3 android and anything that alters the sound, any player like poweramp that alters the sound by resampling just make it worser. Stock player and Aimp player gives the cleanest sound. Aimp is good because you can raise the gain............up to 3db is enough.
Samsung won't integrate 24-bit/192kHz that the WM1811 sound chip is capable to their kernel for a reason, we may never know what it is but they won't for a reason.
Maybe the Wolfson WM1811 data sheet we're seeing are false, maybe not.
Whether it is for stability reasons, when Samsung doesn't use the ‘full’ potential of the chip it might be for the good of its users.
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Any good choices??
markmessier8888 said:
Any good choices??
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Stock music app or Poweramp
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markmessier8888 said:
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This is a somewhat complicated issue becuase of how music players interact with the V20 dac. I've been reading about this for many months on the web, mainly on threads here, on HeadFi, and on Reddit and the consensus seems to be as follows.
The stock LG App works for everything above 48K/16 bits. But apparently, it upscales everything (including redbook 44.1/16) to 48/16. In addition, ATT and Sprint excluded it on their versions of the V20. There is a thread someplace on this website on how to add the LG stock music app to ATT and Sprint phones that does not require rooting.
There are numerous music players that correctly decode everything below 48/16 (no upscaling). But many people say that they also downscale everything above 48/16 to 48/16. Then there are some people that say that some music players (including Blackplayer and Pulsar) correctly decode samples above 48/16 (no downscaling). From what I can tell, the consensus is that Neutron downscales.
Many people really love Poweramp. But it appears that the "normal" version downscales to 48/16. Some people say that the alpha version 704 of Poweramp does not downscale, but many more say that it does (for the alpha version, you first have to buy the "normal" version from the play store and then download the alpha version from the player's website), at least for the V20 dac. Supposedly, the next version of Poweramp will be able to properly use the V20 dac, but there hasn't been a new version for many months now.
Some people root their V20 and do things to make the music player do different things - adding viper for android, for example (I'm not a techy kind of guy, so no go for me). And some people say that the entire upscale/downscale issue will be resolved when the V20 gets the Oreo update (but that won't happen until probably sometime next year).
I use the LG stock app, which I had to add to my Sprint phone. I have not done any testing to determine if any music players (beyond the stock LG player) correctly accesses the V20 dac above 48/16. My info is based solely on what I've read (mainly on the three sites mentioned above). as such, you can take this all with a grain of salt. If none of this makes any sense to you, or if you believe (as many do) that human hearing can't differentiate anything above 44/16, then get a music player that you like and that has the features that you want - which is actually the best advice anyway.
Tested neutron, poweramp alpla 704 and stock.
Stock sounds like its utilizing it, i mean it has to right?
Neutron is downsampling and you can def tell the diff.
Poweramp alpha 704 with the stock output sounds ok not better then neutron
Poweramp Alpha 704 has hi res audio support but it stopped functioning on nougat devices.my v10 utilized it and it was amazing, best audio ever.that was when the v10 was on MM. After nougat it broke the high res playback.this is case with most devices.poweramp is working on fixing it for over a year now .in the meantime theres a little trick for better quality with poweramp.if you are rooted add this line to the build.prop "ro.lenovo.hifi_support=true".then reboot after setting correct perms.poweramp high res playback will work now but only 16bit. i noticed it improves the sq.so im running it like this until poweramp gets thier **** together.BUT trust me when i say when the native high res playback starts functioning, poweramp demolishes even the stock app by a mile.my v10 on MM with poweramp hi res output sounded better than the v20.it beat every single app including the stock on v10 by a longshot.
Also in poweramp use SoX resampler.there also a noticable quality difference.
In regards to stock app resampling at 44.1/16, that is correct until you modifiy build.prop to allow direct 16pcm.
audio.offload.pcm.16bit.enable=true
I have tested several different flac files ranging from 44.1/16 to 192/24 and they all output bitperfect sound, IF dumpsys is to be trusted.
adb shell dumpsys media.audio_flinger
LG Q8 with Poweramp 704
I have an LG Q8, which is the smaller V20 with the same hardware.
After trying several apps (most mentioned in this thread, including the stock player), I kind of never got the WOW-audio I was hoping for.
There is a lot of theorizing about up- and downsampling, but what counts for me in the end is my ears. What i hear.
It all kind of sounded the same, and quite similar to my old galaxy S5 - which was quite good.
Then, when using Poweramp alfa-test-version 704, I had a major improvement in audio quality.
Phonograph
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I've read that Poweramp 704 alpha hi-res selection is actually accessing the dac on the snapdragon chip, rather than the V20 sabre dac. This is supposed to be fixed in the long-awaited next (alpha? beta?) version of Poweramp. Again, I have no proof of that, only what others have said.
Squadala said:
Phonograph
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Doesn't it downsamples Hi-Fi recordings?
Salvaparalyzer said:
Doesn't it downsamples Hi-Fi recordings?
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No. Doesn't do anything.
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Does Tidal work out of the box or do I have to do anything special with that as well?
Viper4android + stock player
Eriknorway said:
I have an LG Q8, which is the smaller V20 with the same hardware.
After trying several apps (most mentioned in this thread, including the stock player), I kind of never got the WOW-audio I was hoping for.
There is a lot of theorizing about up- and downsampling, but what counts for me in the end is my ears. What i hear.
It all kind of sounded the same, and quite similar to my old galaxy S5 - which was quite good.
Then, when using Poweramp alfa-test-version 704, I had a major improvement in audio quality.
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Hello
how have you ever decided to buy LGQ8?
I have to buy a cell phone with DAC but I'm undecided between the Q8 and the ZTE Axon 7.
Do you take me straight?
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No. Doesn't do anything.
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Really? Have you measured your sample rate output?
I read on another thread that in fact Phonograph downsamples hi-fi audio.
I don't have a way to measure sample rate really, but I will try this.
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In regards to stock app resampling at 44.1/16, that is correct until you modifiy build.prop to allow direct 16pcm.
audio.offload.pcm.16bit.enable=true
I have tested several different flac files ranging from 44.1/16 to 192/24 and they all output bitperfect sound, IF dumpsys is to be trusted.
adb shell dumpsys media.audio_flinger
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But modifying build.prop requires a rooted phone, correct? If not, how is this done?
Salvaparalyzer said:
Really? Have you measured your sample rate output?
I read on another thread that in fact Phonograph downsamples hi-fi audio.
I don't have a way to measure sample rate really, but I will try this.
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Yes. I tested with adb command. It doesn't downsample. Only upsamples 16/44 content which you can stop by editing build.prop
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But modifying build.prop requires a rooted phone, correct? If not, how is this done?
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As far as I know you need a rooted phone to edit build.prop.
Before I rooted I was very satisfied with Poweramp alpha 704 build to the point where I didn't root my v20 for almost 2 months when I usually root right away and put Viper on it. Need to change a few settings on Poweramp to get it to sound better like the aforementioned SoX resampler and stuff but it sounded night and day difference compared to any of the previous Galaxy phones I've used and even my brothers Nexus 6p which has the stereo sound.
Imo though nothing sounds as good as Viper paired with Dolby and a good convolver.
Does anyone know of a music player that neither upscales 44.1/16 to 48/16 nor downscales higher res files to 48/16 - i.e., actually accesses the V20 dac correctly (without rooting)?
unproductive said:
Does anyone know of a music player that neither upscales 44.1/16 to 48/16 nor downscales higher res files to 48/16 - i.e., actually accesses the V20 dac correctly (without rooting)?
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No dude. There is none. LG engineers were too autistic to program the dac right
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