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[WANTED : How to play Hi res (24 bit / 192Khz) musics on our Xperia Z1? HELP]

This thread might have been discussed before but I could not find any link.
Our dear phones come with Snapdragon S800 so it has the Qualcomm DAC. Other Android devices equipped with this DAC and processor like Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2 can play Hi res files. Z1 definitely has a best SQ output than the Note 3 IMO, I was not convinced by the Note 3's sound.
It has just the power my hungry cans need, it packs clarity, soundstage and dynamic bass, amps make it shine even more, implementation of theDAC is wonderful. Coming from an iPhone 5 (and lot of iPhones before) it was hard to find something that could actually feel like an upgrade in sound quality.
What is lacking in our devices to get them capable to read Hi Res files without downscaling bitrates to 16bit/44Khz? What is this kernel driver limitation, can't it be bypassed or modified to work like those of the Galaxy Note 3 and LG G2?

Try PowerAMP which it have his own decoder:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
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zigory said:
Try PowerAMP which it have his own decoder:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maxmpz.audioplayer
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Thank you I'll give a look at it (Neutron might be a good player too). Do you think it can do the trick on its own? I wonder if it can bypass the "stock driver" limitation.
How can I change this thread to the good section?

Snapdragon 800 doesn't have native 24bit 96khz decoding, its the LG G2 that has a different DAC and custom kernel to support it. Your assumption is wrong, you can never listen to native 24bit 96khz audio on Xperia z1 or any other s800 processor phone like Note 3, Nexus 5. Poweramp and other players will basically bring it down to 16bit 48khz (or 44khz).
I'm an audiophile and all i can tell you is 16bit can sound really sweet provided DAC is well designed. I've tried LG G2 and audio sucked big time due to bad DAC quality. Z1 sounds way better than G2 or Nexus 5, and even Note 3. Z1 just falls behind Htc One which gets higher weightage coz of much higher volumes. My only complaint with Z1 audio was volume until I found the volume boost mod.
Journey from 96khz to DSD (1.4Mhz) is for audiophiles and not for normal listeners. Manufacturers like LG create a buzz by using it, but they epicly fail at delivering the basics.

taranfx said:
Snapdragon 800 doesn't have native 24bit 96khz decoding, its the LG G2 that has a different DAC and custom kernel to support it. Your assumption is wrong, you can never listen to native 24bit 96khz audio on Xperia z1 or any other s800 processor phone like Note 3, Nexus 5. Poweramp and other players will basically bring it down to 16bit 48khz (or 44khz).
I'm an audiophile and all i can tell you is 16bit can sound really sweet provided DAC is well designed. I've tried LG G2 and audio sucked big time due to bad DAC quality. Z1 sounds way better than G2 or Nexus 5, and even Note 3. Z1 just falls behind Htc One which gets higher weightage coz of much higher volumes. My only complaint with Z1 audio was volume until I found the volume boost mod.
Journey from 96khz to DSD (1.4Mhz) is for audiophiles and not for normal listeners. Manufacturers like LG create a buzz by using it, but they epicly fail at delivering the basics.
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I'm listening 24/96 content since z1 shows up in store ...I wrote that (just try to find) and it's sounds great ...for future don't give advices till you try something by your own ...and its for sure z1 output is great and it's not quiet -it's natural gained ...I had never listened with highest volume ...and I'm using denon ahd1100 32Ohm series

espe0 said:
I'm listening 24/96 content since z1 shows up in store ...I wrote that (just try to find) and it's sounds great ...for future don't give advices till you try something by your own ...and its for sure z1 output is great and it's not quiet -it's natural gained ...I had never listened with highest volume ...and I'm using denon ahd1100 32Ohm series
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Did you read it all? I'm sure you didn't. Just coz Z1 can play 24/96 doesnt mean it has a DAC which is 24/96khz. Any oldie android phone can play 24/96, it will be scaled down to 16/44 16/48 by hardware. It sounds better coz its probably a lossless 24/96 FLAC , which always sounds better than lossy mp3.
I've played 24/192khz FLAC on Z1 and it plays fine but its useless to do so.
I use 50ohm headphones and volume is too low without mod.

espe0 said:
I'm listening 24/96 content since z1 shows up in store ...I wrote that (just try to find) and it's sounds great ...for future don't give advices till you try something by your own ...and its for sure z1 output is great and it's not quiet -it's natural gained ...I had never listened with highest volume ...and I'm using denon ahd1100 32Ohm series
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In the future, learn to know things before you preach! Even my 5 year old S1 played 192kHz 24bit audio through Neutron but had to convert to yuck 44kHz/16bit though using voodoo sound made everything sound extraordinary for a phone.

Best Music Setup For NON-Rooted Moto G4 Plus?

Used All four of The Titans - Poweramp, Gonemad,Neutron & Rocket Plus, but coming from V4a (in my old phone) all sound depressingly noisy and lifeless.Tried that Noozxoide EIZO-rewire™ PRO too, but that doesnt make any difference.Any help?

Not sure why you'd choose to stay unrooted given no app or mod can even be a patch on V4A.
But to answer your question, specific to my experience, I find DFX Pro to do a fine job. It's way way far behind customization and features available on V4A but nevertheless does a decent job, and IMO certainly lot better than what PowerAmp offers having sampled it fairly long.
What I like about Dfx (I use the pro version, the free one is more of a joke with the limits on tweaks) is how it enhances sound to be fuller and cleaner apart from widening the spatial field considerably, without eating much into resources. There are about 40 odd presets which usually suffice to suit most genres of music/audio, but you can ofc create your custom settings. It has a separate Equalizer which seems to be at par with most other music apps in its category, though it comes in really handy when you're trying a custom setting.
I use DFX PLUS V4A on the software side, on my Moto G4 plus, and if I'm not on the go, I have it connected to my Fiio E17K and listen off my Sennheiser HD598 over stereo audio given I've not had much luck pairing V4A with the dac amp over USB. This set up works best for high bitrate lossy tracks. For hardware driven enhancement I've got USB Audio Player which bypasses V4A and streams over USB using its own driver, though it does have a good set of Equalizers specially parametric ones (come at an additional cost but I've found them to be effective). Fairly good for Flacs and dsf, though I've tried only a handful as yet and E17K is rather mid-end AFA DSD goes, plus not sure how well moto G4's processor is suited for it.
Prolly worth mentioning that I am not big on bass, and what I've referred to above is basis my listening experience of mostly ripped Bluenote and ECM Jazz, remastered RCA/Columbia titles and assorted torreneted stuff. Much of these recordings come with good audio to start with, so enhancements are mostly fine tuning sound, unlike the magical transformation that V4A gives for even low bit rate files.
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I'm sure you know it, but I'll say anyway: nothing you install is going to be even close to a proper sound mod.
Most apps are just reskined equalizers so don't expect to find any alternatives.

I chose to stay unrooted to receive the nougat ota update

Have you checked for Systemless rooting? Its supposed to allow ota updates.
Guess wanting both auto ota updates and running the best mods /apps is ideal but usually takes a while until upto the stable versions are out and there's been development from initial releases on.
All the best with what you're looking for and do post back if you strike luck with nougat+ota+V4A.
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guirc said:
I'm sure you know it, but I'll say anyway: nothing you install is going to be even close to a proper sound mod.
Most apps are just reskined equalizers so don't expect to find any alternatives.
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Indeed nothing could come close to a sound mod such as V4A which not only installs a systemwide driver but has endless customizations and a huge dedicated online community.
So in context to what the original query meant to ask, it is really down to finding the most convincing reskined equalizer. Though, of course results and observations may vary. For example, Dfx doesn't share the sampling transforms and reprocessing algorithms with PowerAmp. But given that sound quality is very subjective, perceived enhancement effects could appear to be very similar.
Wonder if I'm in minority to say that along with sound output devices, audio compression (lossless assumably being better) and quality of recording are the real clincher and come before even powerhouse mods like V4A.
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Has anyone figured out how to actually user our DAC?

It is driving me crazy that we can get this thing to output at 24bit/192k Hz or even just 24bit/96k (I would be perfectly fine with 96k as I can honestly barely tell the difference between 96 and 192).
I was listening to some 24bit vinyl stuff on my phone and I could help but wondered why it sounded "dull" for lack of a better term. Back into PC and all of a sudden all of the high end clarity is back (relieved to know I am not going deaf).
But this leads be to the question, our phones must be downsampling to 48K. Even Neutron says it can only sample 48hz so what the deal? I know the DAC in this phone is supposed to support something absurd like 32bit/356k Hz but it seems like it is only outputting 48K.
Is it just me, or are my ears lying to me lol???

You are correct. The phone downsamples and converts everything to 48khz pcm. Nobody who buys this phone seems to care about it and LG is not in any hurry to correct it.

mlknez said:
You are correct. The phone downsamples and converts everything to 48khz pcm. Nobody who buys this phone seems to care about it and LG is not in any hurry to correct it.
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I rather suspect that the large majority of V20 owners don't have any true hi-res music files
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douger1957 said:
I rather suspect that the large majority of V20 owners don't have any true hi-res music files
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If it's true hi res at DSD (DIFF), WAV 24/96 at least, or flac 24/96 or the very least flac 24/48, and with a good quality headset, IEM or CANS, you should hear the differences, forget the B&O one's, they don't make much differences, then you know the quality. Never compare the V20 with any standalone DAP, maybe low quality one's.

kms108 said:
If it's true hi res at DSD (DIFF), WAV 24/96 at least, or flac 24/96 or the very least flac 24/48, and with a good quality headset, IEM or CANS, you should hear the differences, forget the B&O one's, they don't make much differences, then you know the quality. Never compare the V20 with any standalone DAP, maybe low quality one's.
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I use a pair of AKG k240s when I am out and about. I use my Q701s often, but I was really eager to try the k501s with the v20, and I am really sad this phone isn't utilizing the DAC properly.
(I'm an AKG guy btw haha)

shadowxaero said:
I use a pair of AKG k240s when I am out and about. I use my Q701s often, but I was really eager to try the k501s with the v20, and I am really sad this phone isn't utilizing the DAC properly.
(I'm an AKG guy btw haha)
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My V20 seems to be using it, with the hifi dac toggled on and off , I can clearly hear the differences, when compared to my G5 hifi DAC, it sound slightly better, but only a marginal better, I think it all comes down to the quality of the components use, either way my sony ZX 2 sound way better, but my xperia X performance does not compare to the LG.
Ilike sony, you can see my IEM collection below in the sig, going to pickup a pair of MDR EX1000.

kms108 said:
My V20 seems to be using it, with the hifi dac toggled on and off , I can clearly hear the differences, when compared to my G5 hifi DAC, it sound slightly better, but only a marginal better, I think it all comes down to the quality of the components use, either way my sony ZX 2 sound way better, but my xperia X performance does not compare to the LG.
Ilike sony, you can see my IEM collection below in the sig, going to pickup a pair of MDR EX1000.
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To me it just sounds like when I toggle the hi-fi mode it is just pushing more voltage. Just a glorified "gain" control lol. It gets louder but no clearer and still sounds a bit hollow. when I compare to my sound blaster z direct stereo mode the v20 is crap. And it's saddening because we all know it has the hardware to be so much more. Some one get an LG rep in these forums lol.

shadowxaero said:
To me it just sounds like when I toggle the hi-fi mode it is just pushing more voltage. Just a glorified "gain" control lol. It gets louder but no clearer and still sounds a bit hollow. when I compare to my sound blaster z direct stereo mode the v20 is crap. And it's saddening because we all know it has the hardware to be so much more. Some one get an LG rep in these forums lol.
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I think it sound more that louder, it has a slight differences in tone.

shadowxaero said:
To me it just sounds like when I toggle the hi-fi mode it is just pushing more voltage. Just a glorified "gain" control lol. It gets louder but no clearer and still sounds a bit hollow. when I compare to my sound blaster z direct stereo mode the v20 is crap. And it's saddening because we all know it has the hardware to be so much more. Some one get an LG rep in these forums lol.
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I have to admit that this is true when compare between my Xonar and the phone. I am very disappointed and the only reason I keep it cuz v10 is so slow now. Better Audio for audiophile?? my ass, just louder, all sounded like mp3, so why must we use flac. Not to mention the camera is super dull for late 2016.

mlknez said:
You are correct. The phone downsamples and converts everything to 48khz pcm. Nobody who buys this phone seems to care about it and LG is not in any hurry to correct it.
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I see you love to spread misinformation.
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shadowxaero said:
It is driving me crazy that we can get this thing to output at 24bit/192k Hz or even just 24bit/96k (I would be perfectly fine with 96k as I can honestly barely tell the difference between 96 and 192).
I was listening to some 24bit vinyl stuff on my phone and I could help but wondered why it sounded "dull" for lack of a better term. Back into PC and all of a sudden all of the high end clarity is back (relieved to know I am not going deaf).
But this leads be to the question, our phones must be downsampling to 48K. Even Neutron says it can only sample 48hz so what the deal? I know the DAC in this phone is supposed to support something absurd like 32bit/356k Hz but it seems like it is only outputting 48K.
Is it just me, or are my ears lying to me lol???
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Go into LG world, HiFi and grab true high res music and play it in stock LG music app. You will see how well it works.
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Any player will play those files... however, every player is decimating the files down to 48khz prior to sending them to the DAC because the phone is reporting that 48khz pcm is the only available ability of the DAC.
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I see you love to spread misinformation.
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Your player is playing the files, but before it sends the info to the DAC, it is decimating them to the best reported rate, which is 48khz pcm.

BROKEN1981 said:
Go into LG world, HiFi and grab true high res music and play it in stock LG music app. You will see how well it works.
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I'm not sure what your on about, I have 24bit/192k files already, why do I need LGs? I also have tracks I have recorded at 24bit/96k and personally mixed and mastered my self. I know how down sample audio sounds.
The problem isn't the files its the fact that the DAC isn't outputting anything higher than 48k. I'm not sure if you have any other DACs you can test with but that fact that there is a major difference between my sound blaster z and the v20 is proof enough that the DAC isn't functioning as it should.

Hearing is not a one sound fits all.
The DAC Hi-Fi on the V20 does an excellent job compaired to many other phones out there.
At least with my V20 I can hear the over all better quality of playback when turning on Hi-Fi. The music is much more rich. And tones that I have never heard in music before can now be heard.

shwnr11 said:
Hearing is not a one sound fits all.
The DAC Hi-Fi on the V20 does an excellent job compaired to many other phones out there.
At least with my V20 I can hear the over all better quality of playback when turning on Hi-Fi. The music is much more rich. And tones that I have never heard in music before can now be heard.
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That doesn't change the fact that many of us bought this device for specific reason. Once of the biggest reason for me personally was because the ES9218 has some really impressive specifications. If supports DSD and yet converts to PCM. I have a problem with that, it isn't functioning as it should. It supports 32 bit stereo at an outrageous 384Khz and yet decimates everything to to 48Khz. So that means for those of us who have invested in good pair of cans, we are upset.
I am glad you think is sounds good and I don't want to take away from your experience but it does not change the fact that 24bit 96/192khz files sound like crap coming out of this phone compared to a DAC outputting the signal correctly.

shadowxaero said:
I am glad you think is sounds good and I don't want to take away from your experience but it does not change the fact that 24bit 96/192khz files sound like crap coming out of this phone compared to a DAC outputting the signal correctly.
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What are you using to play your files.
You mentioned neuron, but what about the stock player?
Its very possible that its not the phone that's the issue. But the software / player your using could be the problem instead.

Just received my male to female adapter today and all i got to say is Wawwww. I am hooked...

shwnr11 said:
What are you using to play your files.
You mentioned neuron, but what about the stock player?
Its very possible that its not the phone that's the issue. But the software / player your using could be the problem instead.
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I have used the stock player, poweramp, neurtron, JetAudio lol all of them down-sample the audio. The phone is definitely the issue. If you have another DAC that outputs at 192kHz you would be able to tell very easily that the v20 is down sampling to 48kHz

shadowxaero said:
I have used the stock player, poweramp, neurtron, JetAudio lol all of them down-sample the audio. The phone is definitely the issue. If you have another DAC that outputs at 192kHz you would be able to tell very easily that the v20 is down sampling to 48kHz
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Your software could be down sampling. Not the hardware.

shadowxaero said:
That doesn't change the fact that many of us bought this device for specific reason. Once of the biggest reason for me personally was because the ES9218 has some really impressive specifications. If supports DSD and yet converts to PCM. I have a problem with that, it isn't functioning as it should. It supports 32 bit stereo at an outrageous 384Khz and yet decimates everything to to 48Khz. So that means for those of us who have invested in good pair of cans, we are upset.
I am glad you think is sounds good and I don't want to take away from your experience but it does not change the fact that 24bit 96/192khz files sound like crap coming out of this phone compared to a DAC outputting the signal correctly.
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@shadowxaero -
@beavis5706 mentioned in his testing of the V10 that:
"I have done some more tests given the information provided here and I have come up with some answers. An interruption when switching the DAC on/off signifies a player that can output true hi-res. I did some test recordings on Audacity through the input on my laptop with a music file that has known frequency response up to 88,200Hz. The players that can output true hi-res (the ones that interrupt with DAC on/off) play those frequencies all the way up with no cutoff. The players that cannot (no interruption with DAC on/off) are using Android's internal resampler and are getting resampled to 48kHz (24,000Hz frequency response).
The players I have found that can output true hi-res are ZPlayer, PlayerPro, Shuttle+ (thank you stupc), LG stock music player, Google Play Music and ES File Explorer media player.
Having said that my ears tell me that all players work with the DAC. However only the ones I have listed above can output true hi-res. The rest, while they do still sound good and do benefit from the DAC, are not outputting true hi-res and are instead being resampled to 48kHz." (from post #7 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v10/general/music-apps-using-dac-t3252596)
My understanding is that this is likely true for the V20 as well, as really only the OS and the hardware changed and it's extremely likely that LG did as little changes as possible considering their rocky start with the LG V10, which has the exact same re-sampling issue.
So that's 6 music player apps that actually bypass the down-sampling on the V10 and probably the V20, but the only way we can know for sure on the V20 is if someone with a similar test bench to @beavis5706 can replicate his work on the V10 testing music player apps on the V20.
So who has a good sound card, test tones over 24 KHz in a hires file, and Audacity or the like?

what music players work good on the LG G6?

What high end music players do you guys use for the LG G6 that doesn't have the audio cutting out for a split second on every song or skipping that is comparable to Poweramp? I was considering Player Pro but it has the same problem. i tried JetAudio Music Player but the highs sound muffled without one of the audio enhancers you have to pay extra for. I don't like the idea of buying an app and then having to pay extra for other features when other apps have it included for free. Also what settings or tweaks do you guys use to correct the cutting out or skipping? I have the settings maxed out on the PlayerPro and Poweramp and still have the problem.

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What high end music players do you guys use for the LG G6 that doesn't have the audio cutting out for a split second on every song or skipping that is comparable to Poweramp? I was considering Player Pro but it has the same problem. i tried JetAudio Music Player but the highs sound muffled without one of the audio enhancers you have to pay extra for. I don't like the idea of buying an app and then having to pay extra for other features when other apps have it included for free. Also what settings or tweaks do you guys use to correct the cutting out or skipping? I have the settings maxed out on the PlayerPro and Poweramp and still have the problem.
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I used Onkyo HF Player for music on almost all my android devices. Try it.
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I use AIMP, could try that out

ted presley said:
I used Onkyo HF Player for music on almost all my android devices. Try it.
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Will that app work with the headphone jack and bluetooth? I didn't see any info about that in the description.

SPFCCMT said:
Will that app work with the headphone jack and bluetooth? I didn't see any info about that in the description.
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Yeah it does. If you don't have their headphones in the preset list go down to the bottom for "other headphones". Should work with bluetooth. I didn't keep the app very long after finding out it wasn't showing my album covers and no way to add them like with Poweramp and PlayerPro. The interface is so 2011. Rather ugly by today's standards. the EQ was good sounding though.

Im using poweramp

jamiee6610 said:
Im using poweramp
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Any problems with it? Are you using the version 3 alpha? That's what I'm using now. I think I got it working better with the newest version 704. I adjusted the buffering and priority. The settings are different inn this one.
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Any problems with it? Are you using the version 3 alpha? That's what I'm using now. I think I got it working better with the newest version 704. I adjusted the buffering and priority. The settings are different inn this one.
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Im on version 2.0.10 or what ever it is? Build 588 i think?
Its been more stable than 3.

jamiee6610 said:
Im on version 2.0.10 or what ever it is? Build 588 i think?
Its been more stable than 3.
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so it doesn't have audio problems? Did you adjust the buffering or priority? I'm trying to understand how it works good for you. I am on my 2nd G6 over this issue and still have it on Player Pro. So far the Poweramp alpha 3 is working good after i tweaked it.

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so it doesn't have audio problems? Did you adjust the buffering or priority? I'm trying to understand how it works good for you. I am on my 2nd G6 over this issue and still have it on Player Pro. So far the Poweramp alpha 3 is working good after i tweaked it.
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None that im aware of yet? Version 3 was a bit glitchy found some songs would stutter and i sometimes had a weird distortion.
I went back to the official 2.x version and it's fine, earphones are fine and i cant say more than that really? Not sure why your looking at replacing the phone over the app? Its software and new to the device. Unless in samsung nothing is ever optimised straight from the box.

going through V20 forums about the quad dac, I'm pretty sure only some players (maybe only LG Music) recognises the ES9218+ DAC in the G6, the rest apparently can only recognise what Android audio manager api or whatever lets them recognise which is only the Qualcomm DAC so it essentially limits it to 48khz and plays that.
At least this used to happen, I hope LG has fixed this and allowed the ES9218+ to be seen by 3rd party players and used properly, does anyone have more insight into this? Please let me be wrong about this lack of support -_-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/list-music-players-dac-t3536815
Some more research
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71302132&postcount=100

this question lol.own pref .....
I use usb audio player pro with lg g5 BnO 32 bit dac/amp
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dkimmortal said:
going through V20 forums about the quad dac, I'm pretty sure only some players (maybe only LG Music) recognises the ES9218+ DAC in the G6, the rest apparently can only recognise what Android audio manager api or whatever lets them recognise which is only the Qualcomm DAC so it essentially limits it to 48khz and plays that.
At least this used to happen, I hope LG has fixed this and allowed the ES9218+ to be seen by 3rd party players and used properly, does anyone have more insight into this? Please let me be wrong about this lack of support -_-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/list-music-players-dac-t3536815
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71302132&postcount=100
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Mate try USB audio player pro.this app bridge you own dac no need trough android...

Please go to following forum and request Hi-res playback for Honor 8 Pro

I am sure most poeple know that PowerAmp is arguably (Or unarguably) the BEST music player on planet right now. It also supports 24 bit 192 kHz Hi-res playback on most phones.
But sadly our phone with HiSilicon Hi6403 (32 bit/192 kHz and DSD lossless format support) doesnt feature in them.
I have submitted our phone's details on poweramp forums for the same.
Pls do the same as it'll get their attention if many people ask for it.
Here's their forum thread:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...poweramp-build-704-before-requesting/?page=26
Please mention:
1) Your device name (Huawei Honor 8 Pro)
2) Android version (7.0)
3) DAC (HiSilicon Hi6403)
And of course..In you don't use PowerAMP. USE IT.

Is it still advisable to use Poweramp in an Android based DAP?

itisiryan said:
Is it still advisable to use Poweramp in an Android based DAP?
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DAP? Download accelerator Plus? What is DAP?
I always used Poweramp with every device except Samsung.
Cause, all the options you get like 10 band eq, reverb, Bass, treble, Stereo expand plus up sampling etc.

NHS2008 said:
DAP? Download accelerator Plus? What is DAP?
I always used Poweramp with every device except Samsung.
Cause, all the options you get like 10 band eq, reverb, Bass, treble, Stereo expand plus up sampling etc.
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Dedicated Audio Player. Those players with Hi-Res certification like Astell & Kern, Shanling, Cayin etc.

itisiryan said:
Dedicated Audio Player. Those players with Hi-Res certification like Astell & Kern, Shanling, Cayin etc.
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No idea really. never used them.

NHS2008 said:
No idea really. never used them.
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I'm planning on buying one. The problem is, the cheap ones won't give any difference at all in the sound quality. Those prices are the same or even higher than Honor 8 Pro will make you hear the difference.

NHS2008 said:
I am sure most poeple know that PowerAmp is arguably (Or unarguably) the BEST music player on planet right now. It also supports 24 bit 192 kHz Hi-res playback on most phones.
But sadly our phone with HiSilicon Hi6403 (32 bit/192 kHz and DSD lossless format support) doesnt feature in them.
I have submitted our phone's details on poweramp forums for the same.
Pls do the same as it'll get their attention if many people ask for it.
Here's their forum thread:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...poweramp-build-704-before-requesting/?page=26
Please mention:
1) Your device name (Huawei Honor 8 Pro)
2) Android version (7.0)
3) DAC (HiSilicon Hi6403)
And of course..In you don't use PowerAMP. USE IT.
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Is poweramp still in development it's been quite dead for a year. Or is he planning big?
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LastStandingDroid said:
Is poweramp still in development it's been quite dead for a year. Or is he planning big?
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Well dev does post once in a while in that thread.

NHS2008 said:
I am sure most poeple know that PowerAmp is arguably (Or unarguably) the BEST music player on planet right now. It also supports 24 bit 192 kHz Hi-res playback on most phones.
But sadly our phone with HiSilicon Hi6403 (32 bit/192 kHz and DSD lossless format support) doesnt feature in them.
I have submitted our phone's details on poweramp forums for the same.
Pls do the same as it'll get their attention if many people ask for it.
Here's their forum thread:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/topic/...poweramp-build-704-before-requesting/?page=26
Please mention:
1) Your device name (Huawei Honor 8 Pro)
2) Android version (7.0)
3) DAC (HiSilicon Hi6403)
And of course..In you don't use PowerAMP. USE IT.
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does neutron mp play hifi audio on this phone. my note 5 does so am thinking of buying this one

tucking fypo said:
does neutron mp play hifi audio on this phone. my note 5 does so am thinking of buying this one
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It does. You have to manually set it through Generic driver/custom format..

NHS2008 said:
It does. You have to manually set it through Generic driver/custom format..
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good then coz i use neutron mp. the dev of poweramp had promised poweramp v3 since early 2017 and kept giving ETA but it is still not done. nothing against poweramp or the dev but neutron is a different kind of beast and is very active so i got it.

tucking fypo said:
good then coz i use neutron mp. the dev of poweramp had promised poweramp v3 since early 2017 and kept giving ETA but it is still not done. nothing against poweramp or the dev but neutron is a different kind of beast and is very active so i got it.
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Yes. Thats how I feel exactly. But I would jump back to PowerAMP the moment it starts to support my phone.

NHS2008 said:
Yes. Thats how I feel exactly. But I would jump back to PowerAMP the moment it starts to support my phone.
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maybe i will too especially if neutron doesn't change its UI.