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hi all!
some of you are happy to have DHD already.
Tell me please how does it work as music player? Is it better than older HTC phones? (or generally phones) Can it play music as good as mid level mp3 players like iPOD, Creative, Sony etc.?
I mean with headphones, not stock off course.
best regards, Wojtek
I recall clock saying the sound was great using earphones. not sure if its the stock tho
The DHD has a good ADSP unit and as such, you should experience a good multimedia experience. This is of course dependant on other addons (DSPManager works great, but that requires modifying the framework) as well as upon the quality of your hardware (earphones - wired ones like Sennheinser and Bose work great).
You SHOULD bear in mind, that this is primarily a phone, NOT a multimedia unit.
Pozdrawiam ;]
I am listening to music on my HD right now!
It sounds incredible, awesome quality from the phone when using some quality earbuds. Sounds just like my iPod Video.
There is also the option of enabling Dolby Mobile, or SRS, or other EQ presets.
What's really nice is that you can scan the network for UPnP servers with the built-in Music app (eg. Windows Media, TVersity, XBMC and many more - I use foobar2000) and access music libraries stored on computers or NAS drives etc. Very handy! I think it works for pictures and videos too. Looks like part of HTC's DLNA implementation.
FM radio also sounds alright too. Haven't moved into a location where I could get full FM strength yet, but indoors on my headphones it's nice enough.
Can you tell me what are the settings available in dolby and SRS ?
Thanks
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
is music and media playback can be enhanced with the dolby (via speaker) ?
The music quality is a way better than the desire. I would say it is on par with the iphone.
Is there any ex Galaxy S owners here who could provide an 'HONEST' opinion please.
The SGS is known as having an excellent Music App and delivers excellent quality audio.
It will be great to hear the DHD can achieve a similar result.
Thanks.
vicedens2002 said:
Can you tell me what are the settings available in dolby and SRS ?
Thanks
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In the Music app (at least; haven't looked at any video playback yet) there's a button at the top right and an item on the Menu button called Sound Enhancer.
On there, you have "No effects", "Dolby Mobile", "SRS enhancement", and "Equalizer (headphones only)". Next to Equalizer, there's a variety of presets like Pop, Rock, Bass boost, Treble boost, Vocal boost, and a few more. I haven't found any means of actually adjusting the Dolby or SRS - it just seems to be an on/off thing - same with the EQ, there's no manual band control that I can see. It's either Nothing, Dolby, SRS, or EQ+a preset.
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is music and media playback can be enhanced with the dolby (via speaker) ?
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Dolby mobile and SRS makes a difference to the music being played in both the headphones, and out of the phone's speaker. Dolby seems to push more bass and adds a mild surround-like feeling. SRS seems to boost the bass and treble and make the sound "stand out" more. Both nice effects, worth playing with on various kinds of headphone. It's a preferential thing - the sound is fantastic even with no effects. They seem to make the external speaker a little louder (perhaps as a result of extra treble?) which, I must admit, is tinny and a little quiet, but I was expecting that.
Demiourgos said:
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
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I used to have some KOSS The Plugs, and I miss them like hell, great earphones especially at the price. I lost mine It's a pity I don't have them any more to test on the DHD, but I'm certain you will find them to sound fantastic on this phone.
I'm using some generic Sony-Ericsson Walkman headphones with some custom earplugs, and they sound brilliant on this phone, so I can only imagine better headphones would sound... well, let's use some Apple lingo - "magical".
The bass is certainly powerful and upper frequencies are crisp. Hopefully you'll find it the same... I appreciate listening experience is a very subjective thing.
Demiourgos said:
thanks guys, that was really helpful!
I was worried, because most phones sounds very flat. Mostly I listen to rock music so powerful low and dynamic high frequencies is a must have.
Now I use Nokia E65 with 3,5mm adaptor and KOSS earbuds. I hope there will be an major upgrade between E65 and DHD in case of sound + might consider changing earphones to AKG's.
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I listen to deathcore and metalcore stuffs, having a low and dynamic Hi-F would indeed be superb with the open triplets, massive double paddle bass and all the squeaking pinching.. goes sexy on the distortion sound too
d0pefish said:
In the Music app (at least; haven't looked at any video playback yet) there's a button at the top right and an item on the Menu button called Sound Enhancer.
On there, you have "No effects", "Dolby Mobile", "SRS enhancement", and "Equalizer (headphones only)". Next to Equalizer, there's a variety of presets like Pop, Rock, Bass boost, Treble boost, Vocal boost, and a few more. I haven't found any means of actually adjusting the Dolby or SRS - it just seems to be an on/off thing - same with the EQ, there's no manual band control that I can see. It's either Nothing, Dolby, SRS, or EQ+a preset.
Dolby mobile and SRS makes a difference to the music being played in both the headphones, and out of the phone's speaker. Dolby seems to push more bass and adds a mild surround-like feeling. SRS seems to boost the bass and treble and make the sound "stand out" more. Both nice effects, worth playing with on various kinds of headphone. It's a preferential thing - the sound is fantastic even with no effects. They seem to make the external speaker a little louder (perhaps as a result of extra treble?) which, I must admit, is tinny and a little quiet, but I was expecting that.
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sweet, i love to hear that SRS and DOLBY makes media playback via the internal speaker a lil bit louder.. cuz it has been metallic and empty for the HTC Desire. Yes we all know that people dont enjoy music via the speakers but it would be handy sometime to have at least a decent one.. just for shortplaybacks or watching video with buddies..
does it work for youtube perhaps? cuz i see people tend to watch youtube vids with friends.. that is where a decent speaker goes along well or does it work only with the music player
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I listen to deathcore and metalcore stuffs, having a low and dynamic Hi-F would indeed be superb with the open triplets, massive double paddle bass and all the squeaking pinching.. goes sexy on the distortion sound too
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I have no deathcore to hand at the moment, but can give it a shot when I get home and report back, ahhaha
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does it work for youtube perhaps? cuz i see people tend to watch youtube vids with friends.. that is where a decent speaker goes along well or does it work only with the music player
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Since the sound enhancement settings are only accessible from within the Music application, I don't know whether these enhancements only affect the music played in this app, or if the settings "stick" and apply to all media. I have no data or Wifi available at the moment to test out YouTube, but will report back tonight unless someone else would like to try.
I wonder if the Dolby/SRS/EQ stuff is done in software, or in the DAC/audio chip. Would be nice if it was the latter, as in the future we may end up with an external app that may offer more control over it, like some older HTC phones used to have.
Thought id post some screen shots of the music player and settings and what have you.
d0pefish said:
I have no deathcore to hand at the moment, but can give it a shot when I get home and report back, ahhaha
Since the sound enhancement settings are only accessible from within the Music application, I don't know whether these enhancements only affect the music played in this app, or if the settings "stick" and apply to all media. I have no data or Wifi available at the moment to test out YouTube, but will report back tonight unless someone else would like to try.
I wonder if the Dolby/SRS/EQ stuff is done in software, or in the DAC/audio chip. Would be nice if it was the latter, as in the future we may end up with an external app that may offer more control over it, like some older HTC phones used to have.
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try Bring Me The Horizon : Visions and Asking Alexandria : The Final Episode.. tell me if it sounds awesome! Both songs have quite a dynamic range of tunes and even very low ones too
Beards said:
Is there any ex Galaxy S owners here who could provide an 'HONEST' opinion please.
The SGS is known as having an excellent Music App and delivers excellent quality audio.
It will be great to hear the DHD can achieve a similar result.
Thanks.
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Yes I can help, my friend is here with her HD and I had a galaxy s not long back..(sold this week)
Galaxy s vs Desire HD - music through loud speaker - Galaxy S kicks its butt.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music through standard supplied earphones - Galaxy S again sound better.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music with a set of sennheiser cx500 in the DHD (ebay £10, best earphones for the price, trust me) WOW, what a difference, lovely sound and good bass, on par with Galaxy S id say..
Basically the external speaker isn't that loud (its not bad but its just not loud enough...as always...thanks HTC)
The supplied headphons that come with the Desire HD are crap..
Get a good set of earphones (the sennheiser cx500 were just an example but I found them to be very good for the money)...the difference is like night and day.
So with a good set of earphones its easily on par with the Galaxy S and an IPod for that matter... Hope that helps.
EDIT- I also had a Desire and the sound even with the standard headphones was much better on the DHD
Nice to hear good stuff for music quality. Can anyone confirm If radio loudness is good or not with headsets (compared to mp3 listenning). Also It has got RDS support, right?
rixsta said:
Yes I can help, my friend is here with her HD and I had a galaxy s not long back..(sold this week)
Galaxy s vs Desire HD - music through loud speaker - Galaxy S kicks its butt.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music through standard supplied earphones - Galaxy S again sound better.
Galaxy S vs Desire HD - music with a set of sennheiser cx500 in the DHD (ebay £10, best earphones for the price, trust me) WOW, what a difference, lovely sound and good bass, on par with Galaxy S id say..
Basically the external speaker isn't that loud (its not bad but its just not loud enough...as always...thanks HTC)
The supplied headphons that come with the Desire HD are crap..
Get a good set of earphones (the sennheiser cx500 were just an example but I found them to be very good for the money)...the difference is like night and day.
So with a good set of earphones its easily on par with the Galaxy S and an IPod for that matter... Hope that helps.
EDIT- I also had a Desire and the sound even with the standard headphones was much better on the DHD
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Thanks mate, appreciate the honesty.
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Thanks mate, appreciate the honesty.
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Hello matey, no problem, really it just comes down to Samsung ship far better headphones in box than the HTC, once you get a decent set the DHD sound is dam good.
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Hello matey, no problem, really it just comes down to Samsung ship far better headphones in box than the HTC, once you get a decent set the DHD sound is dam good.
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Yes Rich, appreciate that.
My problem though is I do use the external speaker a lot.
I take an awful lot of video's of my 3yr old granddaughter and pass the phone around to show the rest of the family (when out & about that is.... Near a TV and I either use the TV Cable or DLNA).
Taking these video's and playing them back through the speaker is sheer bliss.
Hence my nightmare..... The SGS has an excellent camera and bloody good loudspeaker to boot.
I've a strong feeling the DHD I'm ordering soon will disappoint.
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
It's a phone, not a professional audio recording device...
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It's a phone, not a professional audio recording device...
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vessk0 said:
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
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I'm using an iRig MIC Cast with a Note I, and it's a huge improvement over the internal mic.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmiccast/
They don't mention Android on their website (only iOS stuff) but it works just fine with my GN1.
vessk0 said:
Ok guys, I know that the audio recording is bad with the poor microphones inside the smartphone, but things go worse with an external mic.
I purchased high quality linear measurement and recording mic - Edutige EIM-003
When I started to record I was blown away with the crystal clear and 100% true audio recordings, but the bass was blown away. It records only mids and highs ?!?!?! Than I tried several other apps for video recordings, even lossless audio recorders. Nothing improved. So I went into pure CM10 Android 4.1.2 and again it was so bad... :crying:
Can you guys help ? :fingers-crossed:
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1st off that eim003 is NOT a "high-quality linear measurement mic". high-quality linear measurement mics like those from dpa cost thousands of euros/dollars....heck any decent microphone costs $$$. and this microphone claims to do that for 35 euros?
secondly whenever you see beautiful ultra smooth frequency response graphs....those are just artistic lies. so dont believe any of it. real resonse graphs are really jaggy.
third ...the type of microphone it is....an omni...doesnt hype up the bass in any way. so if the source isnt bassy the recording wont be bassy. typical (non omni) vocal mics have something called proximity effect...iow the closer you hold the mic to the source...the bassier it gets. omni mics do not do this.
fourth it could be that the analog input on the phone is cutting the bass frequencies...because most of the time external mics on phones are meant to record the spoken voice...which shouldnt have bassy frequencies.
fifth it could just be that the speakers youre listening on are bass deficient and coupled with reason #3...well...
keep in mind most pop recordings add in the bass artificially.
sixth...I dont know if the n2 or s3 supports usb mics but that may be a path to try out...because it would bypass the audio path on the phone...and already hit the phone in digital.
hope this sheds some light...
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I'm using an iRig MIC Cast with a Note I, and it's a huge improvement over the internal mic.
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigmiccast/
They don't mention Android on their website (only iOS stuff) but it works just fine with my GN1.
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What do you record with it?
I'm in need of record our band songs and with normal note 2 mic I have a good quality but some distortion on highs (actually battery snare and my singer's voice :/)
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Muwhahahaha! :laugh:
distortion = too much gain (this) or overloading the mic capsule (less likely). look for recording software with adjustable gain level. or just move the phone farther away and/or tell the drummer to play softer. (ha!)
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distortion = too much gain (this) or overloading the mic capsule (less likely). look for recording software with adjustable gain level. or just move the phone farther away and/or tell the drummer to play softer. (ha!)
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Yup I know, I tried with other apps but none of them record bass frequencies like the stock app and recuding the gain removes the "color" of the music
Both of the suggestions you gave, sadly, aren't obtainable
as long as you get a clean recording you could add "color" later. even full blown $$$$$$$ mixes don't have that "sound" until they go to mastering (well most of the time). But really it sounds like what you need is multitrack capabilities in a small portable format. Best to invest in something like that instead of trying to make the shoe fit. If would be the next step down the path if you're serious about your music. .. which is sounds like you are.
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as long as you get a clean recording you could add "color" later. even full blown $$$$$$$ mixes don't have that "sound" until they go to mastering (well most of the time). But really it sounds like what you need is multitrack capabilities in a small portable format. Best to invest in something like that instead of trying to make the shoe fit. If would be the next step down the path if you're serious about your music. .. which is sounds like you are.
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Well I'm just trying to get the best sound without having to spend too much money
TMaLuST said:
What do you record with it?
I'm in need of record our band songs and with normal note 2 mic I have a good quality but some distortion on highs (actually battery snare and my singer's voice :/)
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All mics which connect via the headphone/mic TRRS connector have a mono input.
If you're happy with a mono recording of your band, then it may be ok for you
If you need to record using a pro mic with XLR connector, you can have a look at this small preamplifier:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpre/
I haven't tried it myself but it should work fine as it connects via the heaphone/mic port.
Does anyone know whether an external USB audio interface connected via an OTG cable works?
This would be the easiest solution to get high-quality recordings
springer.music said:
All mics which connect via the headphone/mic TRRS connector have a mono input.
If you're happy with a mono recording of your band, then it may be ok for you
If you need to record using a pro mic with XLR connector, you can have a look at this small preamplifier:
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpre/
I haven't tried it myself but it should work fine as it connects via the heaphone/mic port.
Does anyone know whether an external USB audio interface connected via an OTG cable works?
This would be the easiest solution to get high-quality recordings
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Well thanks for the input.
I have an external USB audio interface and it powers up but there is no way I can use it with my note. I think it needs some drivers :/
FloatingFatMan said:
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^^ This.
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EvoYas said:
^^ This.
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Well this doesn't mean that we can't search a way to improve it
We should have USB audio interface support soon
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=363102&sid=cb542f89bf6342383e9a8ca70521e6a5
This should allow you to connect _any_ microphone via a USB audio interface. Granted the audio interface will probably need to be mains powered.
But, it should also allow you to connect any standard USB mic dirctly via an OTG cable.
I was thinking of buying the iMic, but now that Davy has announced that his USB audio solution is almost complete, I think I will buy a Samson GoMic and use that instead. About the same level of portability, but the quality should be better.
If you don't already use it, you should check out his Audio Evolution app it is the best multi track recorder for Android by a long way.
The best idea might be to get a portable recorder with a couple of condenser mics on it. Then you would bypass the amps and dacs in the phone. You could then plubg the recorder in to the phone through usb host and import the tracks into your editor.
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I admit that the phone is not for this job, but most of the competition records better sound. Beside that look at the impressive Nokia 808 with its Rich Recording crystal clear up to 130+db SPL and doesn't distort bass or etc...
I want to record good HI-FI sound from speakers, Live shows, etc... with low bass, clear mids and high, as like, as the sound is going from the speakers.
Look at this video recorded with Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ys9SIJubc
Go to 1:50min and you will hear the impressive bass recorded.
Anyway, type in YouTube "EIM-003" and check the amazing acoustic recordings with this tiny mic. So YES, I think the problem is in our phones, unless I have fake mic...
vessk0 said:
I admit that the phone is not for this job, but most of the competition records better sound. Beside that look at the impressive Nokia 808 with its Rich Recording crystal clear up to 130+db SPL and doesn't distort bass or etc...
I want to record good HI-FI sound from speakers, Live shows, etc... with low bass, clear mids and high, as like, as the sound is going from the speakers.
Look at this video recorded with Galaxy S2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Ys9SIJubc
Go to 1:50min and you will hear the impressive bass recorded.
Anyway, type in YouTube "EIM-003" and check the amazing acoustic recordings with this tiny mic. So YES, I think the problem is in our phones, unless I have fake mic...
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not to be a downer but i went ahead and listened to the youtube link and a few other eim003 review videos...and to be honest they all sound pretty bad on my monitors over here...shrill and "essy" the impressive bass at 1:50 is just an illusion...the guy was cranking his car stereo which had a subwoofer. so with that in mind, the mic actually didn't pump out a lot of bass at all (compared to the amount of bass that i imagine was coming from his system). and remember, if you're just recording things acoustically, you typically aren't going to run into those artificial amounts of bass.
why doesn't the OP post up a sample recording so we have something to compare to....because honestly i didn't hear anything "great" from the eim003 sample videos...
Yes, after a few tests at my home HI-FI system, obviously you are right, but it is way better than stock mics and handles much more SPL.
BTW, I found a solution for improve the recording. Samsung has limited the input signal via HPF filter. I went into the conf files in system/etc and modified a few settings ther. Now it records more bass with stock mics and external one. I turned off the HPF filter and swtched it to "hi-fi" mode.
I used the S3 theme to do that. :good:
I think that the mic has a potential with a better preamp. It is firstly made for iDevices.
PS: If you think there is a better mic for this money, you can tell me.
Hi,
I am not much of a hard core audiophile and I can settle with almost any sound quality, but I recently bought a decent mid-range IEM, the Sony HM1. So, I wonder if there is any way to be sure that I get the best S3 has to give. I use:
-Sony HM1
-Rocket player (paid version, the one with the unlocked equalizer).
-At least 192bit rated MP3s.
-Volume enhancer mod
So, is there any other mod, program or anything else that can take full advantage of S3's potential, if any? Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1704138
Your question has been posted multiple times . Forum rules require you to search before posting .
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Sound Thread .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633685
Try Viper4Android .
I posted these questions right after I read some pages of that threat and I was just hoping for a medium-sized sum or a small guide with the steps necessary. I will move my question there then, thanks and sorry.
one word. poweramp. no other mods/apps needed. Best audio comes from poweramp. Must be stupid to argue against that.
Sammy GS3 + Nothing = Decent Audio
Melissakis said:
Hi,
I am not much of a hard core audiophile and I can settle with almost any sound quality, but I recently bought a decent mid-range IEM, the Sony HM1. So, I wonder if there is any way to be sure that I get the best S3 has to give. I use:
-Sony HM1
-Rocket player (paid version, the one with the unlocked equalizer).
-At least 192bit rated MP3s.
-Volume enhancer mod
So, is there any other mod, program or anything else that can take full advantage of S3's potential, if any? Thanks!
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In all honesty, to get the best sound you need good source and as you rightly did, at least 192kbps audio. But I have numerous songs that sound much better at 320 than 192 and when played back side by side, you hear the diff. My father who is half deaf heard it.
My recommendation for music is simple, highest bitrate you can afford given the storage you have (getting a 64gb Micro SD card remedies that issue quickly, the Samsung model is the best i've use so far), equalisers and volume normalisers are just to flavour the music to your taste, more bass here, a little mid there, or to compensate for a particular bias your headphone may have. I use a Senheisser HD 201 and HD 202. The 201 is flat and pure, the 202 is bassy and wild so i adjust to suit. FYI I'm current using JetAudio Pro with the AM3D Effects set to 40 and 50.
Hope this helps.
Btw, if you just looking for louder, the tablets, Nexus 7 and the like have higher volume outputs on their headphone jacks so be aware of that.
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Hope this helps.
Btw, if you just looking for louder, the tablets, Nexus 7 and the like have higher volume outputs on their headphone jacks so be aware of that.
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It sure did, thanks! Having high bitrate and a decent IEM, I just wanted to be sure that S3's hardware has no room for improvements, a better kernel or some other tweak.
About Nexus 7, are you sure it has higher output? I have both S3 and Nexus 7 and I just tried it, on the same volume level, S3 is way more louder. Just bear in mind that I used this sound enhancement tweak on S3.
Pure audio and Wolfson Sound engine, Poweramp with all post processing turned off.
That is all
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Pure audio and Wolfson Sound engine, Poweramp with all post processing turned off.
That is all
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Poweramp, check.
About the other two, could you be more specific? I'm a noob. About the Pure audio, I know that's it's a flashable zip, does it give me after the flashing a app that tweaks the sound? And what about wolfson sound engine, could you please give me a link?
Currently I use googy-max kernel, which enables the wolfson sound engine via STweaks. Would it be better to use something else? Maybe all of these questions have already been answered, but it's very difficult to collect all the info available. Thank you all!
Melissakis said:
Poweramp, check.
About the other two, could you be more specific? I'm a noob. About the Pure audio, I know that's it's a flashable zip, does it give me after the flashing a app that tweaks the sound? And what about wolfson sound engine, could you please give me a link?
Currently I use googy-max kernel, which enables the wolfson sound engine via STweaks. Would it be better to use something else? Maybe all of these questions have already been answered, but it's very difficult to collect all the info available. Thank you all!
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Sure! i use googymax too with the wolfson engine, my settings are: headphone equalizer: Enable WITHOUT saturation Prevention.
EQ Presets: Use graphical equalizer
at the bottom of stweaks i turn on DAC direct and DAC oversampling but leave the others.
Pure audio - flash the zip, make sure that DSP manager isn't installed otherwise it'll do nothing. remove it with titanium backup if you hvae it.
pure audio doesn't give you options to adjust because you don't need it. it won't give you any indication that its running when you're listening to music either... but you'll know if you've done it right
If you do feel the need to adjust eq, then use the eq in Stweaks, or poweramp even if you find it easier.
Hope it helps!
Cameltoemcgee said:
Sure! i use googymax too with the wolfson engine, my settings are: headphone equalizer: Enable WITHOUT saturation Prevention.
EQ Presets: Use graphical equalizer
at the bottom of stweaks i turn on DAC direct and DAC oversampling but leave the others.
Pure audio - flash the zip, make sure that DSP manager isn't installed otherwise it'll do nothing. remove it with titanium backup if you hvae it.
pure audio doesn't give you options to adjust because you don't need it. it won't give you any indication that its running when you're listening to music either... but you'll know if you've done it right
If you do feel the need to adjust eq, then use the eq in Stweaks, or poweramp even if you find it easier.
Hope it helps!
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Thank you so much for the reply, you've cleared everything out!
Is their anyway to install a audio apk to make the speakers louder on the G2
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Is their anyway to install a audio apk to make the speakers louder on the G2
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There are many EQs for android and some DSP software like beats audio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
Using an EQ can boast the volume of some music.
Lets go through a few things first however.
2 main things determine how loud something will sound.
The hardware, the speakers, the pre amp, the DAC and such.
You can't change this with any software
The volume of the audio file.
An audio file is at it's loudest when it's ~0dB. Most music is mastered to come close to this, although some aren't.
The best way to make all your audio as loud as it can be without sacrificing quality, is to use replay gain.
Most music players for android have replay gain as a function, how you use it is very much dependant on the player app, so you'd have to read a guide specific to your player.
The aim of replay gain is simple, it scans an audio file, finds it's highest volume and brings it up to 0. So that's the file as loud as it can be,
Now, onto using some other app to boast volume. One can use eq to increase volume by boasting the whole frequency range beyond 0. The drawback to this is that it creates a distortion, however you may not be able to hear this so it's up to you.
My favourite eq for android is music volume eq
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hr.podlanica&hl=en
Play around with that and you might find you can boast your volume a little.
To summary a little.
Look into replay gain, this is your best option for getting correct loudness. If it still doesn't sound loud enough, get some speakers
try viper4android..you can search for it here in xda..
i've been using it for about 4months now and its working great..boosts the overall volume of my neo v.. you will be amazed by the tweaks included..just play with the tweaks to your liking and you'll never look for other sound mods again..
note:i'm using a cheap soundmagic earphones(es18) and viper4android made it sound like a highend earphones.
Sent from my Xperia Neo V using xda app-developers app
neng24 said:
try viper4android..you can search for it here in xda..
i've been using it for about 4months now and its working great..boosts the overall volume of my neo v.. you will be amazed by the tweaks included..just play with the tweaks to your liking and you'll never look for other sound mods again..
note:i'm using a cheap soundmagic earphones(es18) and viper4android made it sound like a highend earphones.
Sent from my Xperia Neo V using xda app-developers app
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+1 , IMHO its the best, made me rediscover my music :highfive:
sandm4n said:
+1 , IMHO its the best, made me rediscover my music :highfive:
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it really is the best..i was using ac!d sound mod before but its very hard to make it work..with viper everything is so easy to tweak and tweaks are endless..a very beautiful app.
Sent from my Xperia Neo V using xda app-developers app
wason92 said:
There are many EQs for android and some DSP software like beats audio.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
Using an EQ can boast the volume of some music.
Lets go through a few things first however.
2 main things determine how loud something will sound.
The hardware, the speakers, the pre amp, the DAC and such.
You can't change this with any software
The volume of the audio file.
An audio file is at it's loudest when it's ~0dB. Most music is mastered to come close to this, although some aren't.
The best way to make all your audio as loud as it can be without sacrificing quality, is to use replay gain.
Most music players for android have replay gain as a function, how you use it is very much dependant on the player app, so you'd have to read a guide specific to your player.
The aim of replay gain is simple, it scans an audio file, finds it's highest volume and brings it up to 0. So that's the file as loud as it can be,
Now, onto using some other app to boast volume. One can use eq to increase volume by boasting the whole frequency range beyond 0. The drawback to this is that it creates a distortion, however you may not be able to hear this so it's up to you.
My favourite eq for android is music volume eq
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=hr.podlanica&hl=en
Play around with that and you might find you can boast your volume a little.
To summary a little.
Look into replay gain, this is your best option for getting correct loudness. If it still doesn't sound loud enough, get some speakers
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If your g2 is rooted.... Google, speaker mod for lg g2 download.
Follow the instructions,( pretty simple ) and enjoy a world of difference!
***(Update: I've found a fix! Being in stock room and installing Ainur Sauron mk ii.ii has improved the frequency response of the phone. The volume is same as before (but it's still adequate), so PowerAmp/Firefox/VLC is still much louder. But now the sound signature is similar. No more pathetically weak bass and overly bright sound!
BTW, Ainur Sauron doesn't work on LineageOS, RRemix, etc. I think Ron's made with Shivam Kumar Jha's trees are incompatible with Sauron. So I'm using stock 318)
I'm sure I'm not the only one that has noticed how badly Asus has tuned the audio of this phone (esp. through the 3.5mm jack).
The Snapdragon 636's SoC is capable of providing pretty decent audio quality. But in the ZMPM1 only the sound through a select few apps (Firefox, PowerAmp with hires 24bit + 88/176/352/384khz audio, VLC, etc) is good. The sound from almost all other apps and audio mods like V4a is pretty bad.
For example, the sound produced by Firefox when playing YT videos is quite full and rich and has a seemingly accurate and linear frequency response. The same video when played through the YT app not only has much less volume, but also has a completely different sound signature with reduced bass, harsh treble, and an overall tinny and compressed feeling. (BTW, it's definitely the phone and not my headphones/IEMs)
Now in previous phones I've experienced that Firefox's audio is not changed by mods such as V4a or other equalizers. This makes me believe that Asus has, for some reason, purposely worsened the sound (perhaps due to some issue with the amp? IDK)
So is there any way to revert/override/bypass the changes made by Asus in all apps? So far I've tried the following-
1. Used Lineage Os 15.1 by Shivam Kumar Jha. It boosts the volume so there's no difference in volume between the good and bad sound, but the sound is still bass-lacking and tinny in most apps while full and rich in Firefox.
2. Used Ainur Sauron mk ii - Didn't fix it.
3. Used V4a- Not only did it not fix it, but installing the V4a driver means audio is now capped at 48khz and 16bit, so even PowerAmp hires breaks.
4. Other equalizers- doesn't really remedy the problem, only masks it somewhat (that too pretty badly).
So is there some way to maybe modify the audio effects or mixer paths files to remove this? Or is this just baked into the device in such a way that it's not fixable? I hate being limited to Firefox for YouTube and PowerAmp hires for local audio, and not being able to use viperDDC/IRS for headphone compensation makes things worse. So any help would be very much appreciated.
For me with V4A sound is great by using Convoler/IRS mod, and some tweaks in compatible mode.
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For me with V4A sound is great by using Convoler/IRS mod, and some tweaks in compatible mode.
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V4a just changes the sound, it doesn't improve it. And with it's 48khz 16bit limit even PowerAmp's hi res output becomes average quality.
Even if you neutralize the frequency curve with v4a, it can never improve the slightly garbled and compressed nature of the Zenphone's sound. Instrument separation cleraly suffers because of it.
SD008 said:
V4a just changes the sound, it doesn't improve it. And with it's 48khz 16bit limit even PowerAmp's hi res output becomes average quality.
Even if you neutralize the frequency curve with v4a, it can never improve the slightly garbled and compressed nature of the Zenphone's sound. Instrument separation cleraly suffers because of it.
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I see. Can you give me an audio sample file where you could see diff clearly ? So i can test it our myself with with and without v4a, and might be able to figure out.
Thanks
man thanks for this post, i am raising this issue in asus offical forum and xda alos, but mostly people are only worried about the camera quality and gaming perfomance, nobody even in youtube reviews talked abut worst sound quality of this phone, i dont know why.
i even raised service request with Asus but they did not provide any solution, more and more developer need to fix in future custom rom. other else this phone is total waste, i am movie and music loving guy, the movie sound is terrible from earpone jack, in night when i want to watch movie and listen to music , i cant do it, because its not pleasant,
the speaker is good, but 3.5 jack sound is very very bad, i request all rom developer please fix this in your custom rom, as asus is not listening
There are kernel avaible so may there is a way to enhance or tweak the sound from that level, please do it, if i had know that this is the issue, i would have gone for RN5 Pro phone, instead of this one, i need a great experience, even phone selling at 5000 have clear and loud sound i had Lenovo A6000 Plus, which was almost half of this phones price, but man the sound was so great
Asus Please fix this in updates, other else this is waste, not only sound, there are many more bugs in this phone, Asus just rushed this half backed phone to market, the phone should be balance of Hardware and Software, only having good hardware at competitive price is not enough, you need to have a great software to use the hardware properly, asus missed onthis one
even the LED notification and front flash is of cheap quality, even in dark night or dark room LED notification does not glow enough why Asus why
Camera software is patheric, but thanks to some mod, now we can use Google camera, i will use it for few months and then sell it, because its not pleasant to use due to many software issue and some cheap parts used by Asus.
Update: Using Ainur Sauron while on the stock room and enabling FMAS drivers using the Sauron useroptions file improved the sound (I think, or it just might be me slowly losing my mind, lol). I've also increased the volume of hphl and hphr in vendor/etc/mixer_paths.xml to 12, that may or may not have had something to do with it. The volume is still much lower than PowerAmp/Firefox, but the sound signature seems to be more neutral. Using splitscreen it seems that Firefox @ volume 6 and YouTube app @ volume 10 sound almost identical, and both of these sound pretty similar to an ancient s4 (which has a pretty linear frequency response).
I received my phone a about a week ago and I agree, coming from my old oneplus one the audio was lacking depth, it had recessed vocals with high interfering in between, and shrill highs. After carefully listening many flac and other audio files back and forth on my old phone and Asus, I came to the conclusion that the entire audio output spectrum of zenfone max pro m1 is shifted towards the right, which explains all the aforementioned issues. I have posted the same on zentalk and I really hope that this issue gets fixed soon. Too bad very few people look for decent audio quality in budget segment otherwise this wouldn't have been an issue at the first place.
Those that are still facing this problem, I stock room+Ainur Sauron. I've updated the OP with some relevant info.
This sounds great. Don't know why all people are complaining about 3.5 mm jack sound. I can hear each and every note of all songs same as I can on my pc. I've tried a lot of different earphones/headphones (2 sennheiser, 1 flipkart smart buy in ear, 1 Sony (over Ear) don't know the model was my friend's, 1 boat and 1 Philips. All sounded different but were very clear and fine.
SD008 said:
Update: Using Ainur Sauron while on the stock room and enabling FMAS drivers using the Sauron useroptions file improved the sound (I think, or it just might be me slowly losing my mind, lol). I've also increased the volume of hphl and hphr in vendor/etc/mixer_paths.xml to 12, that may or may not have had something to do with it. The volume is still much lower than PowerAmp/Firefox, but the sound signature seems to be more neutral. Using splitscreen it seems that Firefox @ volume 6 and YouTube app @ volume 10 sound almost identical, and both of these sound pretty similar to an ancient s4 (which has a pretty linear frequency response).
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How to enable 'FMAS drivers using sauron useroptions'... I have installed Ainur sauron
So after all these days I've found the perfect fix for speaker and headset audio quality improvement, install viper4android xHiFi from magisk and tweak the setting to your taste. the best part is all these changes are global, so unlike music FX or similar apps, these effects will not be limited to music players. I was also able to remove the sharp audio output from earphones and the loudspeaker using the EQ within viper. The addon also processed bluetooth audio but I haven't tested it yet.
Bro ,i am on the same boat ,but got good quality output using vlc player with audio output set to Open SL ES..Do it ,live with it till we get an update from ASUS.
Since i Love music i flashed a custom rom and now i'm enjoying music as i use to. Shane on Asus for ****ing up the audio on the device
Easiest way if you don't want to root
Just install vidmate and listen songs in it.
Try it just once.