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[Q] Loss of audio quality on custom roms

Hi, first time android owner here. I recently switched to the CM nightly builds, which I am loving, however I have noticed the audio quality has dropped of dramatically since switching from the standard oppo fw. Now I am streaming my music from google play which AFAIK was unaffected by the dolby sound and the dirac audio features of the oppo ROM. Is this something that should be expected? Its bad enough that Id rather not listen to music at all. Also is there a possibility of porting the audio features of the standard Oppo ROM to the current CM builds?
At this point I think id rather use a buggy, less functional oppo rom with great sound quality and that just sucks:crying:

I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
Sent from my Oppo Find 5

I haven't noticed much of a drop in quality, but I didn't stay on stock for long. Maybe I'll switch back to stock on the next beta and see what the audio and camera are like. I have no camera on my current ROM.
Sent from my Find 5 using Tapatalk 2

I should mention I'm also streaming over blue tooth when making this comparison.

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osmosizzz said:
I'm a music lover and have pretty good ears, I really like cm10.1 and other roms but the reason I left it (besides being a beta tester) is because of lag that happens after a few hours and also because of the issue with audio quality. Yeah it looses quality. Oh and camera quality as well
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Well didi you try to listen music with different earphones ? Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
I tryed to use Oppo earphones on HTC and they sounds poor. Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
If you find some conclusion pls let me know, because I'm not willing to use custom rom ..... for now. :victory:
THX

Grimmy91 said:
And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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I have had both HTC One X, and the Droid DNA and I think Oppo sounds better. I don't know about the New HTC One with Boom-Sound though?

Grimmy91 said:
And do you think that oppo has a better audio than htc or with the beats EQ the One is better ? Maybe with using some good headphones like AKG sennheiser etc...
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Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:

whynotbgd said:
Oppo is champ !!! But they(OPPO & DIRAC) made calibration with shipped earphones.
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
I am big audiopile and so far there was no phone to listen music on.
http://www.cabasse.com/cabfx2012/ba...ic-on-wall-baltic-on-base-santorin-30?lang=en
I own a pair :victory:
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Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.

osmosizzz said:
Completely agree. Dirac sounds horrible with anything other than the stock earphones.
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Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).

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Entropy512 said:
Sounds like Dirac is nothing more than marketing bull**** to describe an EQ preset that works around crummy earphones... Kinda like HTC's Beats Audio (which is just a crappy EQ preset too).
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It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.

whynotbgd said:
It's not bull.... and for sure this is not just an EQ preset like HTCs Beats Audio.
Most of brands use branded cost effective solution (EQ based) to impress customers but Oppo does not.
DIRAC correct phase to firms up the bass, removes resonances, focuses the stereo image and makes voices stand out like you never have heard them before.
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All marketing mumbojumbo for "cheesy postprocessing and/or lame EQ preset"
The fact that it only works to "fix" Oppo's cheap earbuds is a clear sign that it is just an EQ preset designed to compensate for the deficiencies of cheap earbuds.
All of the research I've read indicates that DIRAC serves to do only one thing: Compensate for cheapo earbuds to make them sound better. It will make good earbuds/earphones sound like crap, and is unncessary with them.
When you can get Monoprice 9927s for <$10:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10823&cs_id=1082303&p_id=9927&seq=1&format=2
http://lifehacker.com/5991079/monoprice-improves-on-the-best-7-headphones-youll-ever-buy
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-headphones-under-30/
And Comply foam replacement tips for $15:
http://www.complyfoam.com/
http://www.amazon.com/Comply-T-400-Isolation-Earphone-Medium/dp/B002NUJ2RM/ (for the non-waxguard version, waxguard is $20 for three pairs)
It's pointless to waste time working around crappy cheap OEM buds.
Edit: In general, Comply foam tips are one of the best "bang for your buck" upgrades for any earbud (except ones that already have foam tips)

Yeah, honestly, this crap is like the same BS they pull with Pixel count in cell cameras.
I have some very nice Westone buds that sound amazing on any phone I've had. Turn off all the garbage and you get yourself a hell of an audio experience. These guys feel like they have to provide some audio gem in name because these bloody devices are phones, not good quality audio gear. If you want to bump your audio experience, go get a portable amp and melt your brain.
The Oppo and CM sound great. Only need I have for the DSP is to tweak the sound of the speaker for voice calls.

Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.

crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I have had no issues with Bluetooth with my Sony bluetooth headset.
Google completely replaced the entire Bluetooth stack with 4.2

crackalac87 said:
Is there a different type of bluetooth used by cm compared to stock Oppo ROM? I read something about different compression formats like apt-x. Perhaps cm just needs a bluetooth overhaul.
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I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong

osmosizzz said:
I used to have the s3 and apt x enables headphones and the sound quality is just on another level! Standard bluetooth SBC suports stereo up to 345kbps but idk why, for the most part, they end up sounding bad in most cases. Apt-x lets better audio pass though with minimal compression.
read these two wikies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SBC_(codec)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apt-X
now for dirac, it may just be an eq thing but idk. speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great. With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much. IDk what oppo has done, butif there is no specific hardware thing within the phone that is activated with any rom, then i guess it;s an eq thing? anyone correct me if im wrong
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I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager

I feel like the audio quality improved on the external speaker with cm10.1

osmosizzz said:
speaker sound much better with audio calls and just playing music. there is bass, and mids added (looking like an eq thing as of now). When it comes to music listening, without any mod, cm10 doesnt sound that great.
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Entropy512 said:
I'm positive it's an EQ thing. Might be able to achieve similar results by playing with DSP Manager
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I'm having big battery issues with my Galaxy S2 and was considering the switch to the Find5, the good sound quality being one of the strongest argument for me so the fact that Dirac is only an EQ to compensate crappy earbuds is kinda bumping me out
A long long time ago I used to listen to music on a iAudio X5 / Shure E4g combo, with great quality (the integrated EQ helped, but still wow, great sound). Now I'm on the GS2, and it's fine with a pair of Ultimate Ears 400vi but I'm not coming back to crappy earbuds, so if the only plus of the Find5 in the audio corner besides the speaker is an EQ then I guess I'll have to wait until the next big cheap thing
What do you think? Considering Oppo opened its sources from the start is it possible that the sound capabilities of the stock rom get ported to other roms like CM?
osmosizzz said:
With the V4A sound mod, it sounds really good. V4A sound mod on stock rom helps but not too much?
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How does it work on CM? Gotta test that right away on my S2

You definitely have to play with v4a until you get the right sound for you. And sound settings varies from headphone to headphone
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May be an eq thing but stock ROM produces better sound and louder volume. Bass is also stronger on stock ROM.
Sent from my Find 5 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

whynotbgd said:
When u use other earphones u must disable DIRAC
otherwise sound is crap.
DIRAC sounds good only with shipped earphones and far far better than anything eles !
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took your statement and did a test myself on stock rom and on firefly (international) , found some good music and hooked up the stock headset in the find 5, sounds great with DIRAC , as you said, then switched headset after have playing music in a periode, then tested with DIRAC enabled on my beats audio headset (stock from htc sensation xl), and sound was still really good, not much diffrent, only beats had more bass , but that headset is also a inear headset, which usually gives more bass.
Then just today, after flashing a codefireXperimental rom, as name say, not released at all, and then tested both headsets again, this time, ofc without DIRAC, but nothing else, no audio mods at all. and stock headset is a little bit more bad in cfxp than in stock with DIRAC, but not at all as in other custom roms ive tried. then switched to beats headset, very little diffrent here, from stock rom with DIRAC and now in custom rom.
After all, i think that audio quality ,cant only be blamed at DIRAC , if you look in this link , its pretty impressive who uses DIRAC, so im sure its not crap only
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Shipped earphones can only work ith dirac "ON".
Also I found poor sounding Find 5 with HTC beats audio earphones.
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Thats not true, it works fine without DIRAC enabled, and after testing my own beats headset with dirac and without in custom roms, i dont hear at all that the sound is more bad with Dirac than it is without, infact i like the audio more with my find 5 and beats audio, even in cfxp, than i do with beats audio on my htc sensation xl.

Audio SQ Stock vs CM10?

Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?

This is the big question for me since I own a pair of NuForce NE-700M and plan to upgrade to Yamaha EPH-100, and roughly 90% of my smartphone usage is just listening to music. GSMArena shows stock playing with enjoyably low THD (I know some of you aren't too fond of their review process, though).

Deadeye* said:
Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?
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Stock has workarounds for the cheap buds that come with the Oppo - but Dirac HD is unnecessary for decent headphones and in fact ruins the audio quality if used with good headphones. So if you use decent wired headphones you should not hear much difference if any. Some A2DP (stereo Bluetooth) devices have issues with 4.2 due to the new Bluetooth stack, however I can't reproduce this with any of my A2DP headsets.

I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....

Nelson Hawker said:
I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....
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No, DiracHD only works with cheap headphones - more specifically, *only with the cheap headphones included with the device* - it is an EQ preset that offsets the deficiencies of the OEM earbuds. Use it with anything that doesn't have the exact same frequency response and you correct for problems that aren't there - effectively creating new problems that didn't exist.
Effectively it's an audio form of RF predistortion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predistortion - Applying predistortion to anything with distortion characteristics different from what the predistortion algorithm was designed for results in increased distortion.

Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim

Nelson Hawker said:
Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim
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I got rid of my stock firmware before I had a chance to try the Dirac stuff, but it sounds like it's very similar to Beats Audio, where a lot of the lower spectrum and possibly some of the highs are boosted. This generally makes a more "fun" sound for the casual listener but a lot of more analytical listeners will feel like it ruins the sound, especially if they own earphones that already have their preferred sound signature.

So basically: If your earbuds share a similar signature to the Find 5 included buds, you'll appreciate Dirac HD's effects. Elsewise, if Dirac happens to shape your buds' signature into something you enjoy, then more power to it.
Meh. My NuForce NE-700Ms are already plenty V-shaped (my only complaint being that I have to run 4khz into the ground because it can be harsh. I still recommend them to you out there looking for a quality pair of IEMs at a decent price)

Only for information:
With the Stock Music App, which is not really bad you can switch between DIRAC, Dolby or turn every sound improvement off. But you must plug your headphone in otherwise you have in the speaker mode only a possibility to select Dolby or turn everything off..
So you can compare a little bit better how it works for you...

Dedicated headphone amp vs custom sound kernels

As you guys may have noticed by now, the volume output on the Z2 is a joke, however the audio quality itself isnt that bad. I've been considering buying a portable headphone amp like the FiiO E11K or Creative Sound Blaster E1 because of this. But Im also aware of custom kernels like fauxsound are also very decent at amping up headphones. So how do they compare to a dedicated headphone amp? Are they just as good? Or so similar the difference is marginal?

You should first look for soundmod before try an head amp. Take a look to develop section.

Whichever mod it is, to some extent, your Xperia has limited power output. The power is so little compared to those headphone amps.

Yes, I agree, but adjusting some output volume with this mod you actually have a better level at all. Give yourself a try.

I just tried Viper4Android and wow its pretty amazing. Im not sure how it compares to proper amps, but its already what I was looking for. Mainly something to increase the gain to make my Shure SE215 sound louder and livelier. I might try a headphone amp in the future, but probably only when the opportunity to grab one at a decent price. Thanks for the help guys!

Agree Viper4Android is terrific. Here's a link to a great tutorial for using it with our Xperias that includes some downloadable profiles and settings, which turned out to be excellent to my ears.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761895
Hope this helps you as much as it did me.

w84mike said:
Agree Viper4Android is terrific. Here's a link to a great tutorial for using it with our Xperias that includes some downloadable profiles and settings, which turned out to be excellent to my ears.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2761895
Hope this helps you as much as it did me.
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Thank you, looks interesting. Will definitely check it!

I still trying to understand how a audio "MOD" have equalizer profiles...
The concept of audio enhancement is simply make the sound better without apply any gain in specific frequencies. (equalizing, a personal thing)
Go and get a portable amp and a good pair of headphones.
This is the best MOD you'll find, period.
Sent from my AWESOME Xperia Z2!

Galaxy S6 andreilux sound with hardwareEqualizer (synapse)!

For all the music enthosiasts and audiophiles I am starting a thread about this amazing mod thanks to Ael kernel 2.8 from Friedrich and co/B].
Andreilux sound has been known for the galaxy S3 which made it from pretty bad to amazing sound.
The galaxy S6 has a good wolfson dac but was very poorly optimized by samsung, this mod really makes your music back to life!
I'm gonna share you guys my settings and small tutorial how to use it:
What you need is:
- Andreilux mod, Flash hacker kernel
- Vipermod (for me personally I only use it for adding more bass, which is incredible combo!)
- Download synapse app from playstore
Personal Eargasm Settings: (keep in mind this is personal, it can differ alot from headset to headset). I also like warm mid's
MAIN EQUALIZER through Synapse => Audio
Band 1 gain: +12db
Band 2 gain: +8db
Band 3 gain: +7db
Band 4 gain: +1db
Band 5 gain: +2db
Band 6 gain: +1db
Band 7 gain: +1db
Band 8 gain: leave it 0
Viper4android:
- Go to options => Ui setting => Set to expert
- Check Enable V4A-FX powered on
- Dont check firequalizer you dont need it and imo it loses some quality when using it.
- Enable VIPER bass: Bass mode natural, Bass Frequency 50hz,
- Bass boost 16.3 HZ => You chose your own it will vary from headphone to headphone, I need alot of bass to compensate my inears I used.
I recommend try these settings with instrumental genres like rock or metal.
Please share your own results if you found better/other ones!
Thanks to @AndreiLux, @friedrich420, @RJTBVK, @Quintz (info), @Mentalmuso (Weta rom) and many other I probably forgot to make this possibe :good:

I can only find AEL Kernel 2.5. Where did you get 2.8 from and is that for only the Edge or is it also for the flat S6?

It's there on echoe forum mate Googled & u will find it
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Kernel is multivariant so it works for both versions g925 and g920. You can download latest kernel easely via the echoe creations app on playstore

I searched their forum but could only find version 2.5. I think someone else said that you have to register on their forum to get it. Thanks @jody2k
EDIT: Found it! Also v2.9 was released today. Testing it with your config on Synapse.

Friedrich give public release of AEL 2.9 also, so its not mandatory to buy the app but it would def help him their monthly expenses of having the forum

I bought it without hesitation as I like to support those who give their time and efforts to our community

I only created the sound interface so people would stop asking for it. The only good thing about it is to be able to tune your left/right equalizer channels differently. Either use the hardware controls alone or keep with Samsung's Adapt Sound.
Frankly a lot of people here are having a lot of placebo - going through the Adapt Sound calibration and enabling the UHQ upsampler will be enough for 95% of the people.

AndreiLux said:
I only created the sound interface so people would stop asking for it. The only good thing about it is to be able to tune your left/right equalizer channels differently. Either use the hardware controls alone or keep with Samsung's Adapt Sound.
Frankly a lot of people here are having a lot of placebo - going through the Adapt Sound calibration and enabling the UHQ upsampler will be enough for 95% of the people.
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Samsung adapt sound is just horrible imo why would you ever recommend that? Maybe it was an unwilling effect of you but using hardware equalizer is giving much more warmth and "real sound" control directly from the audio chip without any loss of other frequencies when boosting bass and mid's. You should try yourself my friend youll see its not placebo at all.
Damn so many placebo's then past 3/4 years ^^

jody2k said:
Samsung adapt sound is just horrible imo why would you ever recommend that? Maybe it was an unwilling effect of you but using hardware equalizer is giving much more warmth and "real sound" control directly from the audio chip without any loss of other frequencies when boosting bass and mid's. You should try yourself my friend youll see its not placebo at all.
Damn so many placebo's then past 3/4 years ^^
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I actually did the frequency analysis and the frequency calibration to even setup the 8-band equalizer the way it is now, maybe you have some superhuman hearing or vastly different headphones with different impedance but in my opinion Adapt Sound is a much better objective equalizer calibration to make sound actually sound the way it should be.

AndreiLux said:
I actually did the frequency analysis and the frequency calibration to even setup the 8-band equalizer the way it is now, maybe you have some superhuman hearing or vastly different headphones with different impedance but in my opinion Adapt Sound is a much better objective equalizer calibration to make sound actually sound the way it should be.
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Yes "sounding the way it should be" isnt that personal too? sounds just boring for me but thats my personal opinion too, I'm here to help people who are not happy with stock sound.
Using the analysis frequency calibration from adapt sound the high's are still sounding too harsh, mid's are recessed and there is little to no bass at all.
I'm having different headsets to test this including low impedance (apple earpods) and high impedance phones like the sennheiser HD 600 and DT770 from beyerdynamic.
The dac op amp is not powerfull enough though to drive high impedance phones for sounding like they should be
If you dont like this combo i dont blame you, and won't force anyone to use it i'm here to help...
Many people seem to like it though.

anyway @AndreiLux i'm not doubting your sense of audioquality but i think we are discussing about 2 different things here:
I want to sound my own music as a "new experience" like sitting on a attraction. trying new things and pushing boundries in a good way without having imbalance between frequencies.
Stock adapt sound will give you indeed "the sound music should be" voiced in a U shaped trend of equalizer which is the "new norm" of voicing I don't like, as many people don't like too.
Thats makes you maybe more a audiophile than i am, I have never been searching for the absolute "correct" sound but more for making music a new FUN experience.

Listening with M50x... Much improved
Thank man.

2.9 is out. Hehe Friedrich did not left the building

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2.9 is out. Hehe Friedrich did not left the building
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Jep he didn't know the mod worked actually as he doesnt have the phone to test it out.
He was very happy to hear it worked and people are interested ^^.
S6 community on echoerom forum just needed/needs a little boost, for all those who can go register on echoerom forum and give your thanks:good:

Sometimes its as simple as having the ability to customize it as you prefer, hardware eq gives a better result than sw eq. Placebo or not, I want control. It's a good thing.

Is anyone having an issue where the audio eq settings are audibly turning off when you home button out of any app? like music, or spotify, or even synapse
EDIT: it fixed itself after a clean install

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Is anyone having an issue where the audio eq settings are audibly turning off when you home button out of any app? like music, or spotify, or even synapse
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Yeah had it once when i plugged in charger and made the charger sound seemned to disable the hardware EQ. Fixed it by unplugging and back plug the jack cable from my headset. But with home button i have not this issue

V3 is out, smooth!!!

For those who give a crap...Have been playing with settings again today, they are are more ear friendly, more balanced.
Can you guys test these out? give some feedback what you think
Keep your bass in viper the same
Band 1 gain: +12db
Band 2 gain: +6db
Band 3 gain: +5db
Band 4 gain: +1db
Band 5 gain: +0db
Band 6 gain: +0db
Band 7 gain: +0db
Band 8 gain: -2db

Sound and Audio Mods Discussion

Hello Guys,
So, audio is a completely new territory for me, and as such I have very little to no idea about the current audio mods or the individual audio packages. I wanted to discuss the various mods available currently and their current effect on our devices, the reason this is necessary is because although we have the Marshmallow on our devices, the hardware is getting a tad bit old and a mod which might be compatible with our software may not get the best optimised output from the hardware. Hope you are getting me there. I wanted to discuss the currently available options by the means of trial and testing using 5-10 mods, or gathering reviews from people who are actually using these mods, based on their performance on Phone Speaker, Headphones, AUX, Wireless Speakers and dock.
Going through XDA I found a couple of mods which I am listing (kindly add to the list if you can) below, if anyone has tried these please put our reviews and opinions in the thread,
1. Ac!D Audio (only for SG S3) *
2. XtremeBeats SuperMod *
3. eXtremeBeats Audio Mod *
4. Viper4Android
5. Dolby Digital Plus
6. Beats Audio
7. Dolby Atmos
8. Pure Audio Engine 2.0
9. MaxxAudio (#)
10. IRS SoundMod
11. Am3D Zirene Audio Fx
* - Mod Packages containing Multiple individual audio Mods
# - Stable version not available for android M
>> Another thing that I wanted to clarify was that, each mod works differently on different devices so i would prefer a non biased opinion based on usage and not on the popularity of the mod. Many times even a single mod can play better than a mod package containing multiple mods, hence i'll try to put forward the best audio configuration by the time this thread runs it's course. Kindly Help me do it
Let's Make the best audio Possible!
Cheers,
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I'd stay with stock audio stuff, afaik the i9300 has a high-quality DAC (don't quote me on that) but no kernel is enabling the full potential of it(CN).
All equlizers seem to add virtual "surround" which IMO ruines the quality of whatever I'm listening to.

Hawaii_Beach said:
I'd stay with stock audio stuff, afaik the i9300 has a high-quality DAC (don't quote me on that) but no kernel is enabling the full potential of it(CN).
All equlizers seem to add virtual "surround" which IMO ruines the quality of whatever I'm listening to.
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true that, virtual surround is useless unless we have an external sound system, but i think boeffla kernel does use the full DAC potential ? or not?

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true that, virtual surround is useless unless we have an external sound system, but i think boeffla kernel does use the full DAC potential ? or not?
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No, it has not; proof (read whole thread).
Looking at the features of the boeffla kernel, there's no "high-quality audio" feature.
Why are you using the boeffla kernel if running CM13? As far as I see there were never a update to fully support CM13.

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No, it has not; proof (read whole thread).
Looking at the features of the boeffla kernel, there's no "high-quality audio" feature.
Why are you using the boeffla kernel if running CM13? As far as I see there were never a update to fully support CM13.
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there is a beta version v5-29 , and i am not actually using it currently, just downloading it currently to use with rr v5.6.8

Hawaii_Beach said:
No, it has not; proof (read whole thread).
Looking at the features of the boeffla kernel, there's no "high-quality audio" feature.
Why are you using the boeffla kernel if running CM13? As far as I see there were never a update to fully support CM13.
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i read the thread, seems we are doomed, unless a developer actually has implemented the sound feature and just has failed to mention it. Anyways are there any active kernel developers for s3? boeffla has given the kernels an eol status, maybe we could request any other developer to include the sound feature in his kernel.

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i read the thread, seems we are doomed, unless a developer actually has implemented the sound feature and just has failed to mention it. Anyways are there any active kernel developers for s3? boeffla has given the kernels an eol status, maybe we could request any other developer to include the sound feature in his kernel.
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As I said, it's a waste of time.
24bit 192kHz?
First of all, 24 bit? Unless you're modifying sound files like a pro with a application which even supports 24 bit sound on Android (which I suspects does) exist, you won't benefit in sound quality.
192kHz? This is just too much; you ears can't even pick up that noise and sound files in that res are heavy.

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As I said, it's a waste of time.
24bit 192kHz?
First of all, 24 bit? Unless you're modifying sound files like a pro with a application which even supports 24 bit sound on Android (which I suspects does) exist, you won't benefit in sound quality.
192kHz? This is just too much; you ears can't even pick up that noise and sound files in that res are heavy.
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i agree with you on the 192kHz , but 24bit is actually good, if we use some good quality headphones, the sound files may become heavy though, i agree.. althought xtremeMusic does resample the sound to make it better, best have a look.

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i read the thread, seems we are doomed, unless a developer actually has implemented the sound feature and just has failed to mention it. Anyways are there any active kernel developers for s3? boeffla has given the kernels an eol status, maybe we could request any other developer to include the sound feature in his kernel.
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although honestly speaking, complete support, even if it's not actually used, might benefit people who are very into music..

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i agree with you on the 192kHz , but 24bit is actually good, if we use some good quality headphones, the sound files may become heavy though, i agree.. althought xtremeMusic does resample the sound to make it better, best have a look.
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No, do your homework. 24 bit does not sound better than 16 bit. Google it youself.

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No, do your homework. 24 bit does not sound better than 16 bit. Google it youself.
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as i said i have no idea about audio, although i did think that 24 bit audio is better, i did my homework and found this http://tweakheadz.com/16-bit-vs-24-bit-audio/ , guess 24 bit means better quality , not better sound, if that makes any sense.

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as i said i have no idea about audio, although i did think that 24 bit audio is better, i did my homework and found this http://tweakheadz.com/16-bit-vs-24-bit-audio/ , guess 24 bit means better quality , not better sound, if that makes any sense.
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Professionals record their audio in 24 bit which makes the audio easier to edit as there's more depth.
It does not add quality to the sound at all. You never export a 24 bit audio file to public, do more homework

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Professionals record their audio in 24 bit which makes the audio easier to edit as there's more depth.
It does not add quality to the sound at all. You never export a 24 bit audio file to public, do more homework
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meh.. i have a lot of school work going on and there's this more homework.. meh.. guess i'll study about audio coming Sunday, -_- too much to learn xD

I will have to hijack your thread to announce that both of you should do MORE homework on audio. The Wolfson WM1811A Audio Hub Codec, because it has DACs, ADCs, FLLs and much more than just a DAC, is in fact capable of 24bit/96kHz.
The thing about bit depth in audio has been disputed over and over, it is just a matter of preference really, with FLAC and other uncompressed formats gaining popularity with the rise of quality in the hardware department. Going to audio editing, even a 15-year old can use Audacity. Not to talk about Sony's Sound Forge Audio Studio.
Another thing is that AGNi Kernel, at least for i9305 has Boeffla Sound Engine, that coupled with Wolfson Preset 5 or 7, makes listening to music, ofc in combination with Viper4Android and PowerAmp, a total dream. Oh, and also one more thing, IRS SoundMod is a package of Impulse Response Samples (hence the name IRS) for Viper4Android, so that is no sound mod.

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i agree with you on the 192kHz , but 24bit is actually good, if we use some good quality headphones, the sound files may become heavy though, i agree.. althought xtremeMusic does resample the sound to make it better, best have a look.
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I have i9300 on stock 4.3 android and anything that alters the sound, any player like poweramp that alters the sound by resampling just make it worser. Stock player and Aimp player gives the cleanest sound. Aimp is good because you can raise the gain............up to 3db is enough.

Samsung won't integrate 24-bit/192kHz that the WM1811 sound chip is capable to their kernel for a reason, we may never know what it is but they won't for a reason.
Maybe the Wolfson WM1811 data sheet we're seeing are false, maybe not.
Whether it is for stability reasons, when Samsung doesn't use the ‘full’ potential of the chip it might be for the good of its users.
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