Hi guys,
I've just brought this fantastic device, and I'm very happy about it. He is really snappy whit Nova launcher However I would like to receive some suggestions from you on how to get the best from our N10.
For example, I was thinking to install a custom rom and a custom kernel, but I rly don't know which and I don't know if they rly can give some advantages.
I was thinking something like purity rom (because of tweaked bionic and dalvik libraries) + KT Kernel (because it has been recently updated). Or maybe KT kernel + stock rom + ART
What do you think? Have you got any suggestion? Tell me
PS: sry for my bad English
Hi,
I've been using CyanogenMod 11 with its own kernel for some long time now, it never ceased to disappoint me! However, it's not recommendable creating threads asking for the "best kernel/ROM", the best thing to be done is downloading and trying yourself until you find something that suits well your needs . CM11 with NOVA Launcher was good enough for me hehe.
~Lord
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
I've been using CyanogenMod 11 with its own kernel for some long time now, it never ceased to disappoint me! However, it's not recommendable creating threads asking for the "best kernel/ROM", the best thing to be done is downloading and trying yourself until you find something that suits well your needs . CM11 with NOVA Launcher was good enough for me hehe.
~Lord
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Eheh I know that, but I'm not a flash maniac, and rly I have fear to brick my device flashing and re-flashing roms on roms... That's why I'm asking your opinion. I would like to find immediately the best solution, flash it and then don't touch the device more.
However the for your opinion. I will keep it in mind
OmniSlyfer said:
Hi guys,
I've just brought this fantastic device, and I'm very happy about it. He is really snappy whit Nova launcher However I would like to receive some suggestions from you on how to get the best from our N10.
For example, I was thinking to install a custom rom and a custom kernel, but I rly don't know which and I don't know if they rly can give some advantages.
I was thinking something like purity rom (because of tweaked bionic and dalvik libraries) + KT Kernel (because it has been recently updated). Or maybe KT kernel + stock rom + ART
What do you think? Have you got any suggestion? Tell me
PS: sry for my bad English
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I think that the first thing you need to ask yourself is what are your priorities with this device? For instance gaming performance, media consumption, is stability paramount... Etc?
You may want to start off with rooted stock and add the XPosed framework plus modules that give you custom ROM features particularly Gravity Box. If you need more then change your kernel (Franco, KTManta ... Etc). No matter which way you go take nandroid backups and save them off your device before making a significant change (kernel, custom ROM, moving away from stock). Your recovery of choice will provide you with the nandroid backup/recovery functions.
Also read, read... Knowing the focus of a specific kernel or ROM will help in making your choices balanced by the issues other users are having.
Good luck.
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3DSammy said:
I think that the first thing you need to ask yourself is what are your priorities with this device? For instance gaming performance, media consumption, is stability paramount... Etc?
You may want to start off with rooted stock and add the XPosed framework plus modules that give you custom ROM features particularly Gravity Box. If you need more then change your kernel (Franco, KTManta ... Etc). No matter which way you go take nandroid backups and save them off your device before making a significant change (kernel, custom ROM, moving away from stock). Your recovery of choice will provide you with the nandroid backup/recovery functions.
Also read, read... Knowing the focus of a specific kernel or ROM will help in making your choices balanced by the issues other users are having.
Good luck.
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Thank for the answer.
Yeah I always read all the feature of roms... But they never speak about optimization or performance. They always add features and options on Android but... Nothing I can't get with gravitybox.
What I need is smoothness. Not necessarily game performance, but speed while moving from app to app without microlag.
However, let me ask here other questions without opening another thread:
1)Is it normal that, when trying to access the recovery (my device is locked and not rooted) it display "no commands"? Do I need to unlock the device to get into recovery?
2) Can you suggest me a program make backups of my games saves and apps without root? Because I need to backups my data before unlocking the device...
OmniSlyfer said:
Thank for the answer.
Yeah I always read all the feature of roms... But they never speak about optimization or performance. They always add features and options on Android but... Nothing I can't get with gravitybox.
What I need is smoothness. Not necessarily game performance, but speed while moving from app to app without microlag.
However, let me ask here other questions without opening another thread:
1)Is it normal that, when trying to access the recovery (my device is locked and not rooted) it display "no commands"? Do I need to unlock the device to get into recovery?
2) Can you suggest me a program make backups of my games saves and apps without root? Because I need to backups my data before unlocking the device...
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Well, I can't really speak on custom ROMs and kernels because I'm perfectly happy with running stock rooted with Xposed Framework on my N5, N7 (2013) and N10. But, to answer your questions:
1) Yes, it's normal. When you boot into Recovery, all you initially see is the android laying on his back with a red exclamation mark over him. In order to get the commands to show, you need to hit power + volume down (or maybe up, I always forget) at the same time. It can take a few tries with the buttons, but they'll eventually show up.
2) I believe an app called Helium is what you are looking for. I've never used it since I'm already rooted and use Titanium Backup, but I believe it kind of works the same as Titanium Backup.
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I'm perfectly happy with running stock rooted with Xposed Framework on my N5, N7 (2013) and N10.
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Do you mind providing the instructions of installing Xposed Framework on N4 and N10? Thanks a lot!
Nexus devices are very very hard to brick. Luckily. So no worries there mate. As for roms. Long story short: there is no best rom. If you want speed juat overclock the beast..
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mj56gt said:
Do you mind providing the instructions of installing Xposed Framework on N4 and N10? Thanks a lot!
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No problem. Everything you need to know can be found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401.
It's pretty straightforward. Just install the Xposed Installer apk, then go into the Xposed Installer app and hit "Install/Update". Reboot, and Xposed Framework should be installed. Then, just go back into the Xposed Installer app and click "Download" and choose whatever Modules you want to run. My personal favorites are Gravity Box, Unicon (purchased through the Play Store), Xuimod, and App Settings. I also have the Xposed GEL Settings (XGELS) Module, but only on my Nexus 10 since I love the Google Now Launcher, but it shrinks the icon grid considerably. So XGELS allows me to get the same number of icons on the GN Launcher as the default launcher.
Edit: Oh, and here is a collection of the Modules so you can see what each of them do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-collection-xposed-modules-post-t2327541
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No problem. Everything you need to know can be found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401.
It's pretty straightforward. Just install the Xposed Installer apk, then go into the Xposed Installer app and hit "Install/Update". Reboot, and Xposed Framework should be installed. Then, just go back into the Xposed Installer app and click "Download" and choose whatever Modules you want to run. My personal favorites are Gravity Box, Unicon (purchased through the Play Store), Xuimod, and App Settings. I also have the Xposed GEL Settings (XGELS) Module, but only on my Nexus 10 since I love the Google Now Launcher, but it shrinks the icon grid considerably. So XGELS allows me to get the same number of icons on the GN Launcher as the default launcher.
Edit: Oh, and here is a collection of the Modules so you can see what each of them do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-collection-xposed-modules-post-t2327541
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Thanks a lot for the detailed help!
A couple of questions:
1) Is backup necessary before the installation?
2) Does the Enable Translucent Decor module hide the navigation and notification bars?
3) Would the installation of the Xposed framework interfere with the stock ROM updates later on?
Thanks again for your kind help...
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Thanks a lot for the detailed help!
A couple of questions:
1) Is backup necessary before the installation?
2) Does the Enable Translucent Decor module hide the navigation and notification bars?
3) Would the installation of the Xposed framework interfere with the stock ROM updates later on?
Thanks again for your kind help...
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No problem.
1) It's not really necessary, but before installing/flashing anything that can modify system files, I always think it's a good idea to make a backup beforehand. You never know. That being said, it's all really simple.
2) If you're talking about the solid black background in the notification and navigation bars, then yes. It doesn't completely get rid of them, it just makes the black bar transparent like it should be when using the Google Now Launcher. I don't use that specific module because I already use Gravity Box, and it already has that option to enable translucent decor. It works flawlessly. I don't know why Google said it causes issues on the Nexus 10. If you want to completely get rid of those two bars, you need to enable something like PIE controls and Expanded Desktop.
3) Yes. But the solution is simple. When you want to update via OTA, all you have to do is go into the Xposed Installer app, and under Framework, just click Uninstall. This replaces the modified Framework with the stock Framework so you can update via OTA without any issues. You don't even have to uncheck or uninstall your Modules or the Xposed Installer app itself. Then, after updating, you'll probably just have to re-root by flashing SuperSU in recovery (unless you have survival mode enabled). After that, simply go back into the Xposed Installer app, and under Framework again, click Install/Update. As long as you left your Modules as is, your setup should be back to how it was before you took the OTA.
Well guys, i think I'm going to install SlimKat 4.0 and KTmanta Kernel... I will tell you if I'm satisfied of my choice
Ok guys, I've done some tests and now I've decided too keep Purity rom + ART... And the results are incredible!
23000 score on Antutu benchmark
9000 with Quadrat
Incredible performances and a GREAT battery life, much better than stock rom with dalvik
I think that the tweaked ART and Kernel of Purity Rom deliver the best experience with our device. I suggest it, you will be surprised of the benefits you can get!
Thank to everyone who helped me in this thread
I have been very happy with my AOKP and Franco Kernel combination.
I've installed Purity ROM + ART and it's fast - but i still think stock 4.3 is faster. I tried KTManta and that didn't change things despite overclocking the CPU and GPU.Wish we could have ART on a 4.3 rom.
Are there any recommended 4.3 rom/kernel combos that give good performance?
Edit: First time i installed Purity I didn't install GApps. It was incredibily smooth and fast. After installing GApps, it became laggy again, similar to my experience of stock 4.4.2.
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I've installed Purity ROM + ART and it's fast - but i still think stock 4.3 is faster. I tried KTManta and that didn't change things despite overclocking the CPU and GPU.Wish we could have ART on a 4.3 rom.
Are there any recommended 4.3 rom/kernel combos that give good performance?
Edit: First time i installed Purity I didn't install GApps. It was incredibily smooth and fast. After installing GApps, it became laggy again, similar to my experience of stock 4.4.2.
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Do you really find 4.3 faster then kitkat + art? It's really strange. Well I know that the latest jelly bean firmware maybe is built better than 4.4.2 (which has got some bugs here and there, and yeah I prefer JB device options format) but ART is unbeatable, except by a very well tweaked Dalvik library.
However I think I know maybe why Purity 4.4.2 seems laggy to you. Maybe it's Google now launcher + transparent status bar & notification bar.
I've changed the launcher to Nova (but u can use Apex and similar) and immediately disabled translucent bars. It's smooth like butter now. With tra translucent bars, instead, everything was a little laggy and not fluid. In particular the Drawer scrolling was clearly laggy.
So, try to Nandroid backup, flash again Purity + Gapps. Then change Launcher (and unistall the google one if u want) and disable translucent bars. Then activate ART.
That's what I've done and I'm very happy of the performance provided by my Nexus 10
Also now I'm trying KTmanta Kernel. I didn't found increased performances, but I really like the possibility to undervolt both CPU & GPU. Undervolt = less energy request = No overheat = best battery life
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I have been very happy with my AOKP and Franco Kernel combination.
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But it doesn't support Undervolting, am I right?
OmniSlyfer said:
But it doesn't support Undervolting, am I right?
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Franco kernel supports undervolting
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SmokinCharger said:
Franco kernel supports undervolting
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This is cool
I' going to test KTmanta for another week, then I will switch to Franco kernel to see which is better
Sure I agree the general UI and multitasking is snappier with 4.4.2 with ART than 4.3.1...BUT I primarily bought the nexus 10 to consume media (e.g. video, ebooks, music) and for me buttered AOKP 4.3 is much smoother when watching video than any 4.4.2 rom/kernel combo I tried. The trade off is a bit of stutter in the UI but I can live with that. Video was just terrible on 4.4.2, including audio sync lag and plenty of dropped frames.
Can't wait to see how 4.5 behaves with video as I really like ART!
Hello.
Just upgraded to G4plus, but I struggle finding an ROM.
I tried stock and ResurRection
With ResurRection I had problems installing Gapps..
In the end I don't like Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Can please someone link me to an KITKAT based ROM, hopefully something highly customizable?
Thanks!
dwa4321 said:
Hello.
Just upgraded to G4plus, but I struggle finding an ROM.
I tried stock and ResurRection
With ResurRection I had problems installing Gapps..
In the end I don't like Lollipop and Marshmallow.
Can please someone link me to an KITKAT based ROM, hopefully something highly customizable?
Thanks!
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There are no kitkat ROMs for the G4. Only MM and N. And MM ROMs are not supported by the developers any longer. In the future, please post questions in the help forums. This is for development use only.
Im sorry.
Can you (personally) suggest my then an Nougat ROM?
dwa4321 said:
Im sorry.
Can you (personally) suggest my then an Nougat ROM?
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If you want a fully working device with no issues and a proper camera stick to stock. What do you expect from a custom rom?
dwa4321 said:
Im sorry.
Can you (personally) suggest my then an Nougat ROM?
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I ran XPerience ROM which is 7.1 Nougaat based. It was a very smooth ROM but I had some issues sending texts in groups. Worked fine for single texts though. Also, the battery life was not as good as stock. I also tried Resurrection Remix but didn't really care for it.
I am currently running rooted/stock with ElementX kernel, and CPU boost to 1651 Mhz. It is very smooth and the battery life is much better than anything else I have tried. More importantly, everything works flawlessly.
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android404 said:
If you want a fully working device with no issues and a proper camera stick to stock. What do you expect from a custom rom?
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I agree 100% :good:
Wrong thread..
What I expect:
-battery life/perfomance
-stable
-if possible an "dark/night skinned UI" (so instead of the usual white background an black background with white text - not very likely to get, but I can deal with the normal
My actual problem is (either with Resurrection and Stock+ElementalX) that I cant restore any programs with Titanium Backup (either app and app+app data doesn't work).
It is just stuck in the restore process at 0%
Couldn't get it to restore, the suggestions named in the forum don't work actually.
->Stock and ElementalX would be fine, but I really depent on restoring my settings (e.g. AquaMail is PITA to configure again)
dwa4321 said:
What I expect:
-battery life/perfomance
-stable
-if possible an "dark/night skinned UI" (so instead of the usual white background an black background with white text - not very likely to get, but I can deal with the normal
My actual problem is (either with Resurrection and Stock+ElementalX) that I cant restore any programs with Titanium Backup (either app and app+app data doesn't work).
It is just stuck in the restore process at 0%
Couldn't get it to restore, the suggestions named in the forum don't work actually.
->Stock and ElementalX would be fine, but I really depent on restoring my settings (e.g. AquaMail is PITA to configure again)
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I'm using AOSCP (cypheros) 3.1.4. The battery life is really good and titanium backup works on this rom. The only issue is with video recording, which will hopefully be fixed.
The SELINUX apk worked in the end.
Now im stock+elementalX
I suggest stock + Xposed (gravitybox), the stock rom its really optimized and with Xposed you got any extra feature you wish
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I am a newbie on Op2 device I want to root my Os and installing Xposed on it...i have lots of questions on it like Dose it properly Xposed work on it...?
I want to install few modules which are shorted below pls tell me if those three are working properly on OOS 3.5.6.
1-FLAT STYLE STATUS BAR
2-Android N-ify
3-Greenyfy
P.s - I don't want to install Nougat based os because of they're camera are neither fetured packed nor quality based... i am very satisfied with OOS camera.
If anyone use these modules pls give me your suggestions i really appreciate thatttt...
Thank you very much GuYs.
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Rocken222 said:
I am a newbie on Op2 device I want to root my Os and installing Xposed on it...i have lots of questions on it like Dose it properly Xposed work on it...?
I want to install few modules which are shorted below pls tell me if those three are working properly on OOS 3.5.6.
1-FLAT STYLE STATUS BAR
2-Android N-ify
3-Greenyfy
P.s - I don't want to install Nougat based os because of they're camera are neither fetured packed nor quality based... i am very satisfied with OOS camera.
If anyone use these modules pls give me your suggestions i really appreciate thatttt...
Thank you very much GuYs.
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The title of your thread is wrong. You put H2OS when indeed you are referring to OOS.
Yousvel said:
The title of your thread is wrong. You put H2OS when indeed you are referring to OOS.
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Sorry for that...its OO actually,
Is there anyway to edit that
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If u really like customizations on ur device i would recommend Resseruction Remix or AICP both have wide range of options..Yes i agree the camera is not proper...but u can always flash OOs camera zip which i do after installing any ROM to get the stock camera.. In fact the battery backup is better in both these roms and also they have a substratum theme engine
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If u really like customizations on ur device i would recommend Resseruction Remix or AICP both have wide range of options..Yes i agree the camera is not proper...but u can always flash OOs camera zip which i do after installing any ROM to get the stock camera.. In fact the battery backup is better in both these roms and also they have a substratum theme engine
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Ok, thanks for your kind word...
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N-ify doesn't work properly...status bar does not look good
Techgod said:
N-ify doesn't work properly...status bar does not look good
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Do you use latest one...?
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Hi all long time xda member since mytouch 4g days and have owned and modded everything Samsung phone since the note 2. So now moving along, I'm now a A2017u owner with bad boys Rom. Actually I've been stuck on it since it was released. I wanna download los but I'm worried about losing the Dolby Atmos, Dac and the ability to use the the internet while on a call. What los rom can I download that. Can help me keep that? I know about Devine beats but is it really as good? Also I just can't do the whole magisk thing. It just doesn't work for me. Just going I can flash files and get a nice stock system while preserving the perfect audio going. Also I have the phone working with Verizon and world like to know how to make calls and surf the net at the same time.
Thanks for all.
We're in April, I hope the Oreo Update will fully benefit the potential of our DACs.
Stock software rather than custom ROM?
Wanabedev83 said:
Hi all long time xda member since mytouch 4g days and have owned and modded everything Samsung phone since the note 2. So now moving along, I'm now a A2017u owner with bad boys Rom. Actually I've been stuck on it since it was released. I wanna download los but I'm worried about losing the Dolby Atmos, Dac and the ability to use the the internet while on a call. What los rom can I download that. Can help me keep that? I know about Devine beats but is it really as good? Also I just can't do the whole magisk thing. It just doesn't work for me. Just going I can flash files and get a nice stock system while preserving the perfect audio going. Also I have the phone working with Verizon and world like to know how to make calls and surf the net at the same time.
Thanks for all.
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Basically every custom ROM has that xd. Nougat and Oreo. I don't get why you say you can't get Magisk going? Have you tried a custom ROM at least?
Basically you have to format data, flash bootloader and modem (or bootstack), flash the ROM, Gapps, Magisk. Once you have all that installed just reboot and install the Dolby Atmos magisk module, or if you are on Oreo there's a flashable zip with the newest Atmos zip.
Though I don't know why you would use Atmos on headphones? The real deal is Viper4Android since it doesn't add a crapton of noise...
Noted.
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Basically every custom ROM has that xd. Nougat and Oreo. I don't get why you say you can't get Magisk going? Have you tried a custom ROM at least?
Basically you have to format data, flash bootloader and modem (or bootstack), flash the ROM, Gapps, Magisk. Once you have all that installed just reboot and install the Dolby Atmos magisk module, or if you are on Oreo there's a flashable zip with the newest Atmos zip.
Though I don't know why you would use Atmos on headphones? The real deal is Viper4Android since it doesn't add a crapton of noise...
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Thanks all for all the replies, info and suggestions. I was simply not aware of the things mentioned to me so looking into it. I also left out the "does the finger print reader work on these roms" question and would also like to know if you can suggest what roms currently work for you. I wanted to try the dark themed rom. What do you guys think of that one? Thanks again guys!
Wanabedev83 said:
Thanks all for all the replies, info and suggestions. I was simply not aware of the things mentioned to me so looking into it. I also left out the "does the finger print reader work on these roms" question and would also like to know if you can suggest what roms currently work for you. I wanted to try the dark themed rom. What do you guys think of that one? Thanks again guys!
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of course the fp sensor does. You know, there's a list of broken stuff on every ROM thread, you don't need us to figure what thing works and what doesn't. And for theming a ROM you can use Substratum, though AEX 5.3 (the Oreo one) has a theme engine that themes the UI (not apps)
Wow bro, thanks.
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of course the fp sensor does. You know, there's a list of broken stuff on every ROM thread, you don't need us to figure what thing works and what doesn't. And for theming a ROM you can use Substratum, though AEX 5.3 (the Oreo one) has a theme engine that themes the UI (not apps)
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Again thanks and no need to be a ****. Have a nice day. Jezz
Wanabedev83 said:
Again thanks and no need to be a ****. Have a nice day. Jezz
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I'm not being a ****, I'm realistic. The list is there, all you have to do is go and read it, otherwise you depend on others to know stuff that's plastered there
Really miss the old way Android phones used to animate when the screen was locked.
Totally useless feature but it looked cool.
Xposed used to have a mod for it but not even sure that xposed still works or that I'd want to use it.
Would be great to get it back.
I would not class any of the apps on the play store (which are full of ads) to be an adequate replacement.
Anyone any ideas how to get it back?
Currently on stock with xXx NoLimits, rooted.
Any help or suggestions would be great.
Haven't flashed any of the full ROMs like carbon or PA yet, anyone know if they have it?
Yeah I have CRT working on op7tpro mclaren with aosip rom but before that I tried xposed screen off animations module with no success, best bet would be to flash custom rom would be my suggestion... Wish I could tell you which roms have it smh.
DeejayBaca said:
Yeah I have CRT working on op7tpro mclaren with aosip rom but before that I tried xposed screen off animations module with no success, best bet would be to flash custom rom would be my suggestion... Wish I could tell you which roms have it smh.
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Aye I know about AOSIP. Illusion project, one of my favourite ROMs, it was on the p20 Pro.
I think carbon is maybe the best shout..
Tbh after yesterday, my battery has got a lot worse on xXx so will be looking for another to flash
So we'll give it another day then give it a shot.