Hi guys,
I've just brought this fantastic device, and I'm very happy about it. He is really snappy whit Nova launcher However I would like to receive some suggestions from you on how to get the best from our N10.
For example, I was thinking to install a custom rom and a custom kernel, but I rly don't know which and I don't know if they rly can give some advantages.
I was thinking something like purity rom (because of tweaked bionic and dalvik libraries) + KT Kernel (because it has been recently updated). Or maybe KT kernel + stock rom + ART
What do you think? Have you got any suggestion? Tell me
PS: sry for my bad English
Hi,
I've been using CyanogenMod 11 with its own kernel for some long time now, it never ceased to disappoint me! However, it's not recommendable creating threads asking for the "best kernel/ROM", the best thing to be done is downloading and trying yourself until you find something that suits well your needs . CM11 with NOVA Launcher was good enough for me hehe.
~Lord
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
I've been using CyanogenMod 11 with its own kernel for some long time now, it never ceased to disappoint me! However, it's not recommendable creating threads asking for the "best kernel/ROM", the best thing to be done is downloading and trying yourself until you find something that suits well your needs . CM11 with NOVA Launcher was good enough for me hehe.
~Lord
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Eheh I know that, but I'm not a flash maniac, and rly I have fear to brick my device flashing and re-flashing roms on roms... That's why I'm asking your opinion. I would like to find immediately the best solution, flash it and then don't touch the device more.
However the for your opinion. I will keep it in mind
OmniSlyfer said:
Hi guys,
I've just brought this fantastic device, and I'm very happy about it. He is really snappy whit Nova launcher However I would like to receive some suggestions from you on how to get the best from our N10.
For example, I was thinking to install a custom rom and a custom kernel, but I rly don't know which and I don't know if they rly can give some advantages.
I was thinking something like purity rom (because of tweaked bionic and dalvik libraries) + KT Kernel (because it has been recently updated). Or maybe KT kernel + stock rom + ART
What do you think? Have you got any suggestion? Tell me
PS: sry for my bad English
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I think that the first thing you need to ask yourself is what are your priorities with this device? For instance gaming performance, media consumption, is stability paramount... Etc?
You may want to start off with rooted stock and add the XPosed framework plus modules that give you custom ROM features particularly Gravity Box. If you need more then change your kernel (Franco, KTManta ... Etc). No matter which way you go take nandroid backups and save them off your device before making a significant change (kernel, custom ROM, moving away from stock). Your recovery of choice will provide you with the nandroid backup/recovery functions.
Also read, read... Knowing the focus of a specific kernel or ROM will help in making your choices balanced by the issues other users are having.
Good luck.
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3DSammy said:
I think that the first thing you need to ask yourself is what are your priorities with this device? For instance gaming performance, media consumption, is stability paramount... Etc?
You may want to start off with rooted stock and add the XPosed framework plus modules that give you custom ROM features particularly Gravity Box. If you need more then change your kernel (Franco, KTManta ... Etc). No matter which way you go take nandroid backups and save them off your device before making a significant change (kernel, custom ROM, moving away from stock). Your recovery of choice will provide you with the nandroid backup/recovery functions.
Also read, read... Knowing the focus of a specific kernel or ROM will help in making your choices balanced by the issues other users are having.
Good luck.
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Thank for the answer.
Yeah I always read all the feature of roms... But they never speak about optimization or performance. They always add features and options on Android but... Nothing I can't get with gravitybox.
What I need is smoothness. Not necessarily game performance, but speed while moving from app to app without microlag.
However, let me ask here other questions without opening another thread:
1)Is it normal that, when trying to access the recovery (my device is locked and not rooted) it display "no commands"? Do I need to unlock the device to get into recovery?
2) Can you suggest me a program make backups of my games saves and apps without root? Because I need to backups my data before unlocking the device...
OmniSlyfer said:
Thank for the answer.
Yeah I always read all the feature of roms... But they never speak about optimization or performance. They always add features and options on Android but... Nothing I can't get with gravitybox.
What I need is smoothness. Not necessarily game performance, but speed while moving from app to app without microlag.
However, let me ask here other questions without opening another thread:
1)Is it normal that, when trying to access the recovery (my device is locked and not rooted) it display "no commands"? Do I need to unlock the device to get into recovery?
2) Can you suggest me a program make backups of my games saves and apps without root? Because I need to backups my data before unlocking the device...
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Well, I can't really speak on custom ROMs and kernels because I'm perfectly happy with running stock rooted with Xposed Framework on my N5, N7 (2013) and N10. But, to answer your questions:
1) Yes, it's normal. When you boot into Recovery, all you initially see is the android laying on his back with a red exclamation mark over him. In order to get the commands to show, you need to hit power + volume down (or maybe up, I always forget) at the same time. It can take a few tries with the buttons, but they'll eventually show up.
2) I believe an app called Helium is what you are looking for. I've never used it since I'm already rooted and use Titanium Backup, but I believe it kind of works the same as Titanium Backup.
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I'm perfectly happy with running stock rooted with Xposed Framework on my N5, N7 (2013) and N10.
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Do you mind providing the instructions of installing Xposed Framework on N4 and N10? Thanks a lot!
Nexus devices are very very hard to brick. Luckily. So no worries there mate. As for roms. Long story short: there is no best rom. If you want speed juat overclock the beast..
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mj56gt said:
Do you mind providing the instructions of installing Xposed Framework on N4 and N10? Thanks a lot!
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No problem. Everything you need to know can be found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401.
It's pretty straightforward. Just install the Xposed Installer apk, then go into the Xposed Installer app and hit "Install/Update". Reboot, and Xposed Framework should be installed. Then, just go back into the Xposed Installer app and click "Download" and choose whatever Modules you want to run. My personal favorites are Gravity Box, Unicon (purchased through the Play Store), Xuimod, and App Settings. I also have the Xposed GEL Settings (XGELS) Module, but only on my Nexus 10 since I love the Google Now Launcher, but it shrinks the icon grid considerably. So XGELS allows me to get the same number of icons on the GN Launcher as the default launcher.
Edit: Oh, and here is a collection of the Modules so you can see what each of them do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-collection-xposed-modules-post-t2327541
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No problem. Everything you need to know can be found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/framework-xposed-rom-modding-modifying-t1574401.
It's pretty straightforward. Just install the Xposed Installer apk, then go into the Xposed Installer app and hit "Install/Update". Reboot, and Xposed Framework should be installed. Then, just go back into the Xposed Installer app and click "Download" and choose whatever Modules you want to run. My personal favorites are Gravity Box, Unicon (purchased through the Play Store), Xuimod, and App Settings. I also have the Xposed GEL Settings (XGELS) Module, but only on my Nexus 10 since I love the Google Now Launcher, but it shrinks the icon grid considerably. So XGELS allows me to get the same number of icons on the GN Launcher as the default launcher.
Edit: Oh, and here is a collection of the Modules so you can see what each of them do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/index-collection-xposed-modules-post-t2327541
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Thanks a lot for the detailed help!
A couple of questions:
1) Is backup necessary before the installation?
2) Does the Enable Translucent Decor module hide the navigation and notification bars?
3) Would the installation of the Xposed framework interfere with the stock ROM updates later on?
Thanks again for your kind help...
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Thanks a lot for the detailed help!
A couple of questions:
1) Is backup necessary before the installation?
2) Does the Enable Translucent Decor module hide the navigation and notification bars?
3) Would the installation of the Xposed framework interfere with the stock ROM updates later on?
Thanks again for your kind help...
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No problem.
1) It's not really necessary, but before installing/flashing anything that can modify system files, I always think it's a good idea to make a backup beforehand. You never know. That being said, it's all really simple.
2) If you're talking about the solid black background in the notification and navigation bars, then yes. It doesn't completely get rid of them, it just makes the black bar transparent like it should be when using the Google Now Launcher. I don't use that specific module because I already use Gravity Box, and it already has that option to enable translucent decor. It works flawlessly. I don't know why Google said it causes issues on the Nexus 10. If you want to completely get rid of those two bars, you need to enable something like PIE controls and Expanded Desktop.
3) Yes. But the solution is simple. When you want to update via OTA, all you have to do is go into the Xposed Installer app, and under Framework, just click Uninstall. This replaces the modified Framework with the stock Framework so you can update via OTA without any issues. You don't even have to uncheck or uninstall your Modules or the Xposed Installer app itself. Then, after updating, you'll probably just have to re-root by flashing SuperSU in recovery (unless you have survival mode enabled). After that, simply go back into the Xposed Installer app, and under Framework again, click Install/Update. As long as you left your Modules as is, your setup should be back to how it was before you took the OTA.
Well guys, i think I'm going to install SlimKat 4.0 and KTmanta Kernel... I will tell you if I'm satisfied of my choice
Ok guys, I've done some tests and now I've decided too keep Purity rom + ART... And the results are incredible!
23000 score on Antutu benchmark
9000 with Quadrat
Incredible performances and a GREAT battery life, much better than stock rom with dalvik
I think that the tweaked ART and Kernel of Purity Rom deliver the best experience with our device. I suggest it, you will be surprised of the benefits you can get!
Thank to everyone who helped me in this thread
I have been very happy with my AOKP and Franco Kernel combination.
I've installed Purity ROM + ART and it's fast - but i still think stock 4.3 is faster. I tried KTManta and that didn't change things despite overclocking the CPU and GPU.Wish we could have ART on a 4.3 rom.
Are there any recommended 4.3 rom/kernel combos that give good performance?
Edit: First time i installed Purity I didn't install GApps. It was incredibily smooth and fast. After installing GApps, it became laggy again, similar to my experience of stock 4.4.2.
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I've installed Purity ROM + ART and it's fast - but i still think stock 4.3 is faster. I tried KTManta and that didn't change things despite overclocking the CPU and GPU.Wish we could have ART on a 4.3 rom.
Are there any recommended 4.3 rom/kernel combos that give good performance?
Edit: First time i installed Purity I didn't install GApps. It was incredibily smooth and fast. After installing GApps, it became laggy again, similar to my experience of stock 4.4.2.
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Do you really find 4.3 faster then kitkat + art? It's really strange. Well I know that the latest jelly bean firmware maybe is built better than 4.4.2 (which has got some bugs here and there, and yeah I prefer JB device options format) but ART is unbeatable, except by a very well tweaked Dalvik library.
However I think I know maybe why Purity 4.4.2 seems laggy to you. Maybe it's Google now launcher + transparent status bar & notification bar.
I've changed the launcher to Nova (but u can use Apex and similar) and immediately disabled translucent bars. It's smooth like butter now. With tra translucent bars, instead, everything was a little laggy and not fluid. In particular the Drawer scrolling was clearly laggy.
So, try to Nandroid backup, flash again Purity + Gapps. Then change Launcher (and unistall the google one if u want) and disable translucent bars. Then activate ART.
That's what I've done and I'm very happy of the performance provided by my Nexus 10
Also now I'm trying KTmanta Kernel. I didn't found increased performances, but I really like the possibility to undervolt both CPU & GPU. Undervolt = less energy request = No overheat = best battery life
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I have been very happy with my AOKP and Franco Kernel combination.
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But it doesn't support Undervolting, am I right?
OmniSlyfer said:
But it doesn't support Undervolting, am I right?
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Franco kernel supports undervolting
PHP:
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Franco kernel supports undervolting
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This is cool
I' going to test KTmanta for another week, then I will switch to Franco kernel to see which is better
Sure I agree the general UI and multitasking is snappier with 4.4.2 with ART than 4.3.1...BUT I primarily bought the nexus 10 to consume media (e.g. video, ebooks, music) and for me buttered AOKP 4.3 is much smoother when watching video than any 4.4.2 rom/kernel combo I tried. The trade off is a bit of stutter in the UI but I can live with that. Video was just terrible on 4.4.2, including audio sync lag and plenty of dropped frames.
Can't wait to see how 4.5 behaves with video as I really like ART!
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Does anyone here use the Xposed Framework on stock 4.1.2? I'm currently running CM11 nightlies but I thought I might revert back to stock if Xposed provides enough functionality. I just found out about Xposed otherwise I would have tried it already. If you do you use Xposed, how is the performance? Would you say it's better to use Xposed on stock or a different ROM? Thanks.
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Does anyone here use the Xposed Framework on stock 4.1.2? I'm currently running CM11 nightlies but I thought I might revert back to stock if Xposed provides enough functionality. I just found out about Xposed otherwise I would have tried it already. If you do you use Xposed, how is the performance? Would you say it's better to use Xposed on stock or a different ROM? Thanks.
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Its great. See my ...Telstra jb... in the dev sec for tips ( @ the end , after the clone rom flash.
GO Xposed!!! - you may never go back to "custom" - Actually, I am a bit of a "crack-flasher", but I always return to "Stock/Xposed" when I want something stable. My favorite Xposed module "Gravity Box" has most everything the custom ROMs have (status bar colors, navigation size, reboot menu, cursor keys, etc.) Add in a "quick settings" app and you can make 4.1.2 "look" about like Kit Kat. Does it hurt performance... Maybe, but I've found stock to usually run faster anyways.
(P.S. - I probably wouldn't have unlocked either if I would have found Xposed sooner)
Pics of narrow bar & too skinny-it will not click.
Thanks for the info. I'll give it a shot this weekend.
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I have been using pac-roms rom for months but feel it is missing something - the stylus. Any tips on the rom closest to pac-roms excellent work but with stylus support?
nealshouse said:
I have been using pac-roms rom for months but feel it is missing something - the stylus. Any tips on the rom closest to pac-roms excellent work but with stylus support?
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Can't you flash the Note 3 Mod pack and get all the features that way?? Never used Pac-Man Rom, sorry if that doesn't work.
Spunkiest said:
Can't you flash the Note 3 Mod pack and get all the features that way?? Never used Pac-Man Rom, sorry if that doesn't work.
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That won't work no :c, it's depending on the Touchwiz framework :c
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That won't work no :c, it's depending on the Touchwiz framework :c
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Oh I see, can't you put the touchwiz framework files into the ROM then try that way?? Or would the mess up the ROM?
If it was that easy, we would've had CyanoWiz by now ;D !! (so that's a definitive no no)
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If it was that easy, we would've had CyanoWiz by now ;D !! (so that's a definitive no no)
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Ahhh fair point, I am also looking ofr a ROM that's like that with Note 3 features but that'll be a loooooooong time I think Good luck to you :good:
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Ahhh fair point, I am also looking ofr a ROM that's like that with Note 3 features but that'll be a loooooooong time I think Good luck to you :good:
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Well here's a tip
Go take a look at Xposed Framework. (1st hit on google leads to the topic i guess )
With this you can customize any stock rom to it's fullest extent.
Only pre-requisites are Root.
Go install a rom with Note 3 features, remove all the stuff you don't want, install the stuff you want (launchers etc).
Install Xposed Framework !
Install Wanam Xposed (from store or xposed installer) (( 4.3+ roms))
Modules i'm using:
- Advanced Reboot Menu
- All Notifications Expanded
- App Settings (set DPI per app)
- Chrome New Tab (opens up a new tab in chrome, instead of always losing the page you were on) ((when pressing a link outside chrome browser))
- Greenify ("freeze" apps, so they won't use any battery life)
- SwipeBack (just check it out)
- XuiMod (allows you to change pretty much every animation ((apps opening/closing, go to other "page" in an app, toasts etc etc)
There are lots more.
Mjuksel said:
Well here's a tip
Go take a look at Xposed Framework. (1st hit on google leads to the topic i guess )
With this you can customize any stock rom to it's fullest extent.
Only pre-requisites are Root.
Go install a rom with Note 3 features, remove all the stuff you don't want, install the stuff you want (launchers etc).
Install Xposed Framework !
Install Wanam Xposed (from store or xposed installer) (( 4.3+ roms))
Modules i'm using:
- Advanced Reboot Menu
- All Notifications Expanded
- App Settings (set DPI per app)
- Chrome New Tab (opens up a new tab in chrome, instead of always losing the page you were on) ((when pressing a link outside chrome browser))
- Greenify ("freeze" apps, so they won't use any battery life)
- SwipeBack (just check it out)
- XuiMod (allows you to change pretty much every animation ((apps opening/closing, go to other "page" in an app, toasts etc etc)
There are lots more.
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Thanks for this, still love the pac-rom but as stated it does not use the hardware. I will take a look at the Xposed framework although I am a little scared of killing my phone!
If i understand your reply the stock rom is the base then add or remove Xposed on top and play around from here,
@Neal
Exactly that, you can use Xposed to modify any Rom basically :silly:
Hello, is someone experiencing lag in app switcher button? the animation gets very slow and take some seconds to execute and show the opened apps.
I'm using stock rom 4.4 + matr1x kernel with xposed (gravity toolbox + greenify + dynamic notifications).
Thank you.
jjforums said:
Hello, is someone experiencing lag in app switcher button? the animation gets very slow and take some seconds to execute and show the opened apps.
I'm using stock rom 4.4 + matr1x kernel with xposed (gravity toolbox + greenify + dynamic notifications).
Thank you.
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When was the last time you flashed a ROM?
How about ditching dalvik?
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When was the last time you flashed a ROM?
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Never flashed a ROM, just the kernel.
Flipz77 said:
How about ditching dalvik?
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I can't, because it's needed to use Xposed.
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Never flashed a ROM, just the kernel.
I can't, because it's needed to use Xposed.
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You should try. The stock rom isn't the smoothest one out there, and after a while system problems can occur.
You're obviously free to flash whatever you want, but I'd recommend a good custom ROM (of which we n4 owners have plenty) or even the L preview, which I've been running for months. If you're not absolutely adamant about xposed you can switch to the ART runtime (note: only option in L, finally) which has been around for roughly one year, and more or less everyone will tell you it's a great leap forward.
(How's your internal storage? Could explain the sluggishness)
Its 16gb Nexus 4. The thing about custom Roms is that, for what I have experienced, they're less stable than the stock ROM. Maybe because its tons of features.
I'm still trying to find the best way to backup everything in the phone.
So, xposed won't work in L?
Other thing is, I used to change Roms with my other phones, and I don't want to enter in this ROM loophole, like, having to try Roms, kernels, etc.
yes, Xposed Framework won't work on android l ...Read this: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/rovo89-speaks-up-regarding-art-and-android-l-support/
Hi guys
Which do you think is the best ROM for G-7102 over NK1 firmware. I really want to switch but I don't know which has the least bugs over this build. Thanks in advance
gennext kikate superior is best rom with DedS kernel
v2
but the bug are
1st you cannot send any message from sim2
2nd bug it system ui doest not indicate data connection symbol (E orH)
but 2nd bug is correct by installing different system ui
in below link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...od-s5-blueinblack-quicktiles-awesome-t2675705
Cyanogenmod 11
PiKay said:
Hi guys
Which do you think is the best ROM for G-7102 over NK1 firmware. I really want to switch but I don't know which has the least bugs over this build. Thanks in advance
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Cyanogenmod 11 woks great!
Sim 2 call voice and video recording are the bugs left which are going to fixed soon!
it can be heavily themed and customised
hell_crackerr said:
Cyanogenmod 11 woks great!
Sim 2 call voice and video recording are the bugs left which are going to fixed soon!
it can be heavily themed and customised
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Thank you I am going to try it. I am a heavy 3G user and use only 1 sim so the 2nd sim bugs don't matter . How is it for gaming? Any idea?
There is no "best ROM" for any smart phone. It all depends on the personal preference of the user. The "best" for one user may not be so for another. For me I prefer the stock ROM as long as I can root, remove unused apps using Titanium backup and use Wanam exposed to tweak I am happy....
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Cyanogenmod 11 woks great!
Sim 2 call voice and video recording are the bugs left which are going to fixed soon!
it can be heavily themed and customised
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Hi there. I had just installed the CM11 but seems to me that there is little problem with the system ui. There will be an endless pixels dropping down on the screen when you press the power button within a fraction of seconds(for ex press the power button once and them press it again after 5 seconds). I would like to know if you are supposed to have a respective kernel or clock recovery module installed in my phone. I had rooted the phone, then installed phliz recovery tool and later installed the CM11 and Gapps to gether. Please help me find out if I have done anything wrong.
Hello friend, we do not do "Best Rom," threads here at XDA... I have closed this thread and moved to its more appropriate location in Q and A...
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There is no "best ROM" for any smart phone. It all depends on the personal preference of the user. The "best" for one user may not be so for another. For me I prefer the stock ROM as long as I can root, remove unused apps using Titanium backup and use Wanam exposed to tweak I am happy....
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Wanam exposed is working on Stock rom of Grand 2?
Blisspop
Except the second sim bug ,its awesome and very smooth Rom !!
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Wanam exposed is working on Stock rom of Grand 2?
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Yes it works!
This is for anyone who uses stock ROMs
I was just curious to what kernels your are all running and what settings
I'm a pretty hardcore user and my battery is pretty decent but i was wondering if I could get some better battery with a better kernel i also run nova launcher
We can freezw TWLauncher right?
Thanks to any responses
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Beastmode 1.7 is better than stock right out of the box. Beastmode 1.8 just released today. Has some user tweaks via text edit at /system/etc/init.d/01beastmode but I always preferred the stock kernel anyway and haven't tweaked it. Yet. More options have gotten added, maybe more to come, and text edit is simple.
There's an option to use stock kernel with systemless root by Chainfire but it wasn't stable early in development with system mods. It is intended for those that prefer stock system and don't modify it. Could be revolutionary but currently not my thing. Still depends on stock system like-factor which is lacking for me at this point; prefer to modify it.
There's also AEL, Emotion and Plasma kernel for touchwiz. I haven't used those recently but there are those with their preference that may comment.
Stock deodex ROM is the way to go if you use Xposed framework and make system changes. I'd only recommend stock Odex ROM for those that leave system alone like not flashing mods that add system applications or even manually swapping or installing applications in system. Xposed will work with Odex ROM but system applications don't install with Xposed framework applied. To apply system applications to Odex ROM, have to uninstall Xposed framework, apply system application changes, verify they're installed, reinstall Xposed; rather inconvenient and the added heat cycles are intensive on battery and CPU.
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Thanks alot for that it really did help