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My RAM usage is constantly over 90%. Phone also lags from time to time. Sometimes music player apps even get force closed due to the phone's poor RAM management. Already did factory reset twice, nothing has changed. Not sure if I'm the only one who's having this issue. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Android along with all modern OS use all the RAM they have available. This isn't WinXP days were things go to swap space and severely slow the OS down in the process. Unused items close in the background when RAM is needed. This is a feature, not a bug.
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phone has 2.5gb ram not 3gb and onlly 500 to 700 mb free generally, only google play services and google apps like google, map and android wear and all keeps over 1gb of total 2.5gb ram, this phone has really poor ram management
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phone has 2.5gb ram not 3gb and onlly 500 to 700 mb free generally, only google play services and google apps like google, map and android wear and all keeps over 1gb of total 2.5gb ram, this phone has really poor ram management
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Very true, when I had this phone I didn't even enable the Motorola functions to keep it at 1.6GB of RAM usage and I still thought that was extremely high...
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I'm noticing the same. Side by side with my trusty Nexus 6, and both having 3GB of ram, the N6 will keep apps open longer than my MXPure. N6 is showing 1.6 GB of memory available while the MxPure has only 700MB. It sucks because i stopped using my GS6edge for that same reason. I just want to be able to consistently swap between 4 different apps and not have them reload...
Yikes!
I haven't even gotten mine sent to me yet, and a little worried already. Are there any workarounds, or overclocking solutions in the makes, for the Moto X pure?
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papamalo said:
I haven't even gotten mine sent to me yet, and a little worried already. Are there any workarounds, or overclocking solutions in the makes, for the Moto X pure?
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Don't be too alarmed. It's a great phone. I still like it more than my S6edge and Nexus 6. Im hoping with the Marshmallow update that maybe they'll fix some of these issues. *fingers crossed*
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Don't be too alarmed. It's a great phone. I still like it more than my S6edge and Nexus 6. Im hoping with the Marshmallow update that maybe they'll fix some of these issues. *fingers crossed*
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I wonder what the most Ram-Hogging apps are on this phone? Any tests done yet about that?
Are people experiencing forced reloading / refreshing ? I've not had any issues with my European Style.
Compared to the S6 Edge (I was the creator of the first aggressive ram thread on the S6 Edge) its like night and day and easily comparable to my Nexus 6.
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I've noticed exactly the same. I also came from a Nexus 6. Yesterday I did a side-by-side test with the Nexus 6, and opened the same apps. The Moto X had to reload way earlier.
Checking the memory usage in Settings -> Apps -> Running showed that "System Memory" took up around 160Mb on the Nexus 6 but 1.2Gb on the Moto X!! This is with exactly the same apps running (apart from the Moto stuff of course).
It does seem strange that the system would use that much more memory. In many aspects the phones are the same (screen size in pixels, installed memory size etc.). This is one of the most annoying things about the Moto X, and the only reason that I am considering sending it back.
I'm really hoping that Marshmallow fixes this in some way.
Unused ram is wasted ram... Watch videos of the s6 ram management. S6 might open apps faster than moto x pure on first launch, but moto x reopens them much faster.
^^ The S6 ram management is terrible even if there are only 4apps open, all apps will reload back from the start.
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^^ The S6 ram management is terrible even if there are only 4apps open, all apps will reload back from the start.
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That's the point I'm making... S6 I believe has lots of free ram. I just want others to realize, more free ram might be an aggressive method of ram management. I find the mxp to be great with it.
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That's the point I'm making... S6 I believe has lots of free ram. I just want others to realize, more free ram might be an aggressive method of ram management. I find the mxp to be great with it.
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No the S6 doesn't have a lot of free ram. When you open application manager and check ram through there and click show cached processes it has very little ram free. Smart manager Samsung own manager is deceitful.
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High RAM use has not impacted my phones performance. My understanding is that the phone uses all the ram on purpose to speed things up.
My biggest worry was that high RAM use would bump out my automation tools (tasker), and keep them from triggering which would force me to put them in foreground mode, but I have not had to do this, tasker always triggers fine, even with ram at 100%.
It is frustrating when you're using Chrome and you tab out of Chrome to use another app and then tab back in and it has to reload the web page. I wish I had the ability to set the priority on things that I would like to have stay in memory and not reload.
Total RAM will almost always appears to be less than what the phone is described as having. The kernel has settings that keep certain amounts tucked away for system specific tasks and makes it unavailable to the rest of the OS. On the Spectrum we were able to go from about 700MB, to 820MB available by tweaking these settings. I imagine it won't be much harder in the MXP.
The main problem isn't low free RAM, as many have said, that is a good thing - lots of cached processes/Activities will shrink relaunch times.
The issue is that, at least compared to the Nexus 6, the Moto X is clearly terminating Activities way more aggressively, and it's really annoying.
I can't even run 4 apps without the first one restarting. It's infuriating.
Preparing to get a new phone soon,
this killapp concern now becomes my last question before getting X Style, or the ultimate deal breaker.....
Really hope to hear more feedback from users,
since I play games that loads for some time at startup, browse websites with lengthy pages (especially novels...)
So a system killing either of these tabs will be a disaster for me.
Actually it doesn't have to be on par with nexus5/6, but at least it should be within acceptable range in terms of kill time.
I'm considering buying an unlocked 16GB Moto G4 Plus. I have a question about multi-tasking with the 2GB of RAM. Let me explain what I mean by giving scenarios:
Currently I'm using a LG Stylo (1GB RAM) but have used a Galaxy S6 Edge+ (4GB RAM).
I like that with the S6e+ I can stream internet radio, press home to open up the browser and view a page or take a pic to post to Facebook, press home then send a message in Hangouts, then press home (or recent apps) and go back to the browser without it having to reload the page because of low memory... all while still streaming.
On the LG Stylo if I press home and then go back to the browser it has to reload the page even if I don't run another app. When I try to post a picture to Facebook by the time it loads the camera or gallery it will need to reload the page and I lose my picture sometimes and have to try again.
My question: How well does the 2GB of RAM work on this phone? Can you browse and do other functions without the page being taking out of memory if you go to send a text or take a pic? What if you had two tabs open?
Thanks for the help! Hope to be here rooting soon!
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I'm considering buying an unlocked 16GB Moto G4 Plus. I have a question about multi-tasking with the 2GB of RAM. Let me explain what I mean by giving scenarios:
Currently I'm using a LG Stylo (1GB RAM) but have used a Galaxy S6 Edge+ (4GB RAM).
I like that with the S6e+ I can stream internet radio, press home to open up the browser and view a page or take a pic to post to Facebook, press home then send a message in Hangouts, then press home (or recent apps) and go back to the browser without it having to reload the page because of low memory... all while still streaming.
On the LG Stylo if I press home and then go back to the browser it has to reload the page even if I don't run another app. When I try to post a picture to Facebook by the time it loads the camera or gallery it will need to reload the page and I lose my picture sometimes and have to try again.
My question: How well does the 2GB of RAM work on this phone? Can you browse and do other functions without the page being taking out of memory if you go to send a text or take a pic? What if you had two tabs open?
Thanks for the help! Hope to be here rooting soon!
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Will recommend 3gb variant because as you dont close background app.S6 is far superior then g4 as it has better processor and ram.They both cannot be compared.
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Will recommend 3gb variant because as you dont close background app.S6 is far superior then g4 as it has better processor and ram.They both cannot be compared.
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I understand that and should have said that I realize the S6 is much more of a powerhouse. I'm currently using a device with 1GB of RAM and I do close my background apps ( and use Greenify) but it doesn't help... I wasn't sure if an extra 1GB of RAM would help.
I don't see a 32-gigabyte version for sale anymore tho, I looked... Not on Motorola's website, Amazon, or Swappa. I'm in the US and dunno what happened to it or if it was ever available.
I can go with the 64GB version with 4GBs of RAM but considering the phone has adoptable storage I thought of this as an unnecessary expenditure. I guess it's really about the RAM.. Thank you for replying.
I looked up BLU phones but heard about the battery issues that's why I wanted to go with a major manufacturer.
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I understand that and should have said that I realize the S6 is much more of a powerhouse. I'm currently using a device with 1GB of RAM and I do close my background apps ( and use Greenify) but it doesn't help... I wasn't sure if an extra 1GB of RAM would help.
I don't see a 32-gigabyte version for sale anymore tho, I looked... Not on Motorola's website, Amazon, or Swappa. I'm in the US and dunno what happened to it or if it was ever available.
I can go with the 64GB version with 4GBs of RAM but considering the phone has adoptable storage I thought of this as an unnecessary expenditure. I guess it's really about the RAM.. Thank you for replying.
I looked up BLU phones but heard about the battery issues that's why I wanted to go with a major manufacturer.
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As far as the 4gb variant is concerned it is useless,i have fifa 16,coc,fb,chrome etc in background even though my ram is not fully used.max 1.8 gb have been used not more then that.Moreover the processor snapdrgn 617 is not that powerfull to use 4gb ram.Battery will get affected for 4gb.Verdict g4 3gb suits best for you.
I'm not sure if it's just an error but any 32 gigabyte version I see says it has only 2 gigs of RAM.
I saw a review saying that the phone has jittery animations and feels sort of sluggish. But once it's rooted you could adjust the memory options, the CPU core control, and have it function a little smoother. I see CM and Pac ROMs....
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I'm not sure if it's just an error but any 32 gigabyte version I see says it has only 2 gigs of RAM.
I saw a review saying that the phone has jittery animations and feels sort of sluggish. But once it's rooted you could adjust the memory options, the CPU core control, and have it function a little smoother. I see CM and Pac ROMs....
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I dont know about US but in india 16 gb has 2gigs of ram,32 gb 3 gigs of ram.I have not encountered any sluggish UI till now.But screen burn happens.Animations are smooth.
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I dont know about US but in india 16 gb has 2gigs of ram,32 gb 3 gigs of ram.I have not encountered any sluggish UI till now.But screen burn happens.Animations are smooth.
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My LG Stylo has the same type of screen, IPS LCD Capacitive, and so has nearly every other phone I've used. I've never had screen burn in and never heard of it happening unless maybe you keep your screen on for hours. I believe it's image retention and not permanent burn in.
Must be some kind of manufacturing flaw unique to the screens in the Moto that causes it. I read the phone gets very hot and that could add to the problem.
I still think I want to buy it, I can't find any other name brand phones with that high of a screen resolution and PPI for a simular price.
Thanks for answering my questions!
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My LG Stylo has the same type of screen, IPS LCD Capacitive, and so has nearly every other phone I've used. I've never had screen burn in and never heard of it happening unless maybe you keep your screen on for hours. I believe it's image retention and not permanent burn in.
Must be some kind of manufacturing flaw unique to the screens in the Moto that causes it. I read the phone gets very hot and that could add to the problem.
I still think I want to buy it, I can't find any other name brand phones with that high of a screen resolution and PPI for a simular price.
Thanks for answering my questions!
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Yeah screen retention which will be for 10 mins.Lol same reason why i bought this phone!If you dont have problem with screen retention you should go for it.As far as the retention is concerned it has been reported by indian users mostly,which the phone was manufactured in tamil nadu,india.Have not heard any one of US having that problem.
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My LG Stylo has the same type of screen, IPS LCD Capacitive, and so has nearly every other phone I've used. I've never had screen burn in and never heard of it happening unless maybe you keep your screen on for hours. I believe it's image retention and not permanent burn in.
Must be some kind of manufacturing flaw unique to the screens in the Moto that causes it. I read the phone gets very hot and that could add to the problem.
I still think I want to buy it, I can't find any other name brand phones with that high of a screen resolution and PPI for a simular price.
Thanks for answering my questions!
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Got tempted to butt in with my $0. 02, being a new moto G owner and someone with not many work days to clock in lately.
I have the XT 1643, the Indian variant with 3/32Gb. After almost about a month of (rigorous) use, entailing flashing recovery, kernel and ROM back and forth, I find the ROM/RAM parameter to not really be the clincher.
For one, when I was on stock ROM, without even the OEM unlock and just a handful of playstore apps, the UI was OKAY, not what I'd expected having switched over from a 2014 2gig ram zenfone with a puny 8gig internal storage, an x86 Intel processor (which meant compatibility with only 60-70% of all Android apps) and a 16GB ext SD Card. Its Lollipop 5.0 stock firmware (its last official firmware update, as usual heavily modded UI and a truck load of Asus bloat masquerading as system apps) had pushed me to the end of my rope, but a chance attempt at braving to flash a custom ROM (CM based Android 6), followed by installing xposed mods and whiling my time away on android customization forums and such, helped salvage it from getting tossed out, at least for a good six months till its battery died coinciding with Moto G4 hitting the market.
So, coming back to the current phone, a week on, I unlocked and rooted, installed xposed, crammed up a cache of apps and mods, and spent time following how to guides on xda. But, I wasn't really sure if I'd cracked it as yet. Flashing the kernel was fun first time activity, and following up with the dev and users about its features kept me from comparing performance for a bit. However, with flashing to RR ROM, things have begun to look up, I can go about switching between apps or Chrome tabs with no noticeable lag. There's a large set of customization features, which along with tweaking battery and cpu performance have brought me closer to how I'd want my phone to behave.
TL;DR Having a bare bone OS with chosen essential apps, a stable custom ROM with multiple customization features, mods and apps to tweak performance + battery, is what could ideally make the switch over to a higher RAM device worthwhile, which probably is a lot better than running synthetic benchmark tests and comparing results on forums about tests.
About the 64gig variant, not quite sure why you can't find a 32gig one, though signs seem to point to Motos habit of selling different spec models in different markets. And, unless it came with a standard OEM warranty, I wouldn't buy a phone even if it's the better one.
I agree, warrantee is very important. I wouldn't buy a used phone.
I'll be looking forward to getting this device in the next few months. I'm not worried about internal space since it has adoptable storage but I think I'll spend the extra money for the 4GB version.
Thanks for all the help!
Been running my Axon on and off for a week (not yet my daily driver due to being lazy with backing up my old phone)... Anyway one thing I have noticed is that the phone seems to be always running at over 50% RAM usage. If I launch one app - or anything else - and then clear all it will revert to running at a variable 1.6 to 2GB of 'available RAM.
Is this normal?
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Since 4GB is supposed to be 'wayyy' more than enough (as reviews on the OnePlus3 naysayers would have me believe) I don't expect to have an out of the box phone running at more than 50% RAM usage - this doesn't make sense to my non-technical self. On my i9300 (Galaxy S3) I run CyanogenMod 13 and that OS runs at 260MB of RAM vs 850MB on the Axon! Can someone explain?
I'm running the B3 update but had this before I applied it.
I am having some other connectivity issues and am considering sending this unit back for exchange. It's just hard to tell when I don't know what 'normal' is for this phone.
I want to love this phone. I just need it to love me!
Thanks guys! :good:
I need to restart my Axon 7 (A2017G) every two days or I will get a laggy UI, it's a ram problem too. So we're probably in the same boat. I hope they'll fix it in the next update (which comes after the bootloader unlock thingy if I'm right?)
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I need to restart my Axon 7 (A2017G) every two days or I will get a laggy UI, it's a ram problem too. So we're probably in the same boat. I hope they'll fix it in the next update (which comes after the bootloader unlock thingy if I'm right?)
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Yes bootloader unlock is being currently worked on, then an update after that.
RAM management in Android isn't about a predefined amount. You're using way more with the Axon 7 than the S3 because there is way more available. If it's there why not use it to get a better experience ?
Altyough, i haven't noticed this laggy ui issue...
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I need to restart my Axon 7 (A2017G) every two days or I will get a laggy UI, it's a ram problem too. So we're probably in the same boat. I hope they'll fix it in the next update (which comes after the bootloader unlock thingy if I'm right?)
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I agree with this MiFavor is crap when it runs for a longer time. I gets laggy on the second day. One has to reboot to get a smooth system again.
While on my old phone with CM and 4GB Ram it stays blazing fast after a week without reboot.
We can only hope CM isn't to far away.
So, reading between the lines here, you guys. Think it's software rather than hardware?
I'm just building an evidence base to warrant an exchange. Although the prospect of a two month wait leaves me reluctant.
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So, reading between the lines here, you guys. Think it's software rather than hardware?
I'm just building an evidence base to warrant an exchange. Although the prospect of a two month wait leaves me reluctant.
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It sure is software. 4gb ram is more than enough. Really. It's just that MIfavor likes ram and eats it like chocolate.
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It sure is software. 4gb ram is more than enough. Really. It's just that MIfavor likes ram and eats it like chocolate.
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I guess what I really was getting at is how likely is it that the physical RAM is faulty rather than the software being RAM hungry. I ask as it seems my phone is a bit flaky in a few areas and I wonder if it's just like a b-grade item.
But take all the points on board that most likely software. How would I be able to rule out any physical RAM antics?
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I guess what I really was getting at is how likely is it that the physical RAM is faulty rather than the software being RAM hungry. I ask as it seems my phone is a bit flaky in a few areas and I wonder if it's just like a b-grade item.
But take all the points on board that most likely software. How would I be able to rule out any physical RAM antics?
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Look at the chipset. It's an snapdragon 820 which specifies the use of LPDDR4 dual channel.
OEM's usually receive a list of tested and recommended RAM chips from the chipset manufacturer.
No OEM who's right in their mind is going to use cheap RAM for a device that needs to survive at least 3 years of usage. Also less likely is that low powered ram is going to become faulty in a time frame under 10 years.
I plan and build enterprise servers on daily basis. I can a sure you it's software RAM management that is the issue.
Okay cool. Thanks for the clarification.
One technical issue down just two others to resolve!
Sorry for digging the grave, but all I want to say is that even today my Axon 7 with Android Nougat is having memory leak after 2 to 3 days usage. I can't switch between apps properly without them crashing and having to restart completely. But there is good news. According to somebody from ZTE, when the Axon 7 is getting Android 8 (Oreo), though only the US model has been mentioned, the MiFavor is going to be removed and the OS is going to be more or less stock-ish. Which would also mean that hopefully the memeory leakage will be almost gone. Also, hopefully, the EU model will get the same experience. 4GB RAM and memory leak is a bad joke.
i used to have the same issues and what i did is i switched to other launcher instead of using MiFavor... and it solved me lag features and i probably need to reboot my phone once a while when i got unresponsive / slow phone wake... then it back to normal again. But again its still doesn't solve my phone battery drain issue... my phone only can last me 6am to 10pm with normal usage (surfing internet, wifi, youtube, emails, whatsapp and reading novels... no bluetooth and no gaming and no song played).
I'm currently using Lawnchair Launcher and even with Lawnfeed plugin allowing the Google Now page from the left, my phone is very responsive and rarely needs a restart. Appcrash is quite rare.
I recommend Lawnchair if you would like a functional and close to stock (but improved) experience.
I used to use Smart Launcher Pro but that started getting a bit fat, as most apps do over time. Feature bloat always slows them down as they get developed.
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i used to have the same issues and what i did is i switched to other launcher instead of using MiFavor... and it solved me lag features and i probably need to reboot my phone once a while when i got unresponsive / slow phone wake... then it back to normal again. But again its still doesn't solve my phone battery drain issue... my phone only can last me 6am to 10pm with normal usage (surfing internet, wifi, youtube, emails, whatsapp and reading novels... no bluetooth and no gaming and no song played).
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Have you tried completely reinstalling the system? It fixed my drain and also some random reboots that I couldn't get rid of even by updating. Just install Lineage (don't forget abt the universal bootloader and modem), then boot it up and use it a couple minutes (if you want, you can check if you have that same battery drain in Lineage), then follow a guide to go back to stock (if A2017G, I made one; if A2017U, you can use DrakenFX's back to stock files).
Hi all
Just to say that the new Lenovo Tab 3 pro is out it has the 4 gb ram and the faster cpu.
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/comput...3-pro-10-tablet-64-gb-black-10155326-pdt.html
That must just be a typo on that site no? Why would they do that? If anything they would call it Lenovo Yoga Tab 4 Pro or something. I just got my Tab 3 Pro and love it but wish it had more ram, I was hoping they might announce a v4 at CES this week w/ more ram and faster cpu and the only other thing I would love is AMOLED screen.
Wow there is a 4gb ram one, so weird they just kept the name and everything. i just ordered it, this tablet is amazing only issue is the ram, if this 4gb model fixes the ram issues then it will be amazing. i wish they added amoled screen for the refresh but i guess we cant get everything.
This was a pretty quiet refresh. Bumped processor and RAM but didn't change anything else about it. They also released the Tab 3 Plus, which bumped the processor (8 core) and screen and moved to 2 gigs of ram. Seems like they are still selling the original Tab 3 as a lower-budget version.
Was sorta hoping to see a windows version of the Pro, but there's no sign of a release.
I just got the 4gb tab 3 pro today, I am going to try it out and will report back if the 4gb of ram solves the major issues plaguing the tablet due to the 2gb of ram (which wasnt used well to make matters worse). There is a minor bump in the cpu but its so minor I doubt that will be noticeable.
Would love to see a Tab 3 Plus review, doesn't appear to be much info online... Also limited info available in terms of a release in Canada. Might have to bite the bullet and order off Amazon USA. Thoughts on the Tab 3 Plus anyone? Seem affordable and decent enough specs for a media/games tablet.
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Would love to see a Tab 3 Plus review, doesn't appear to be much info online... Also limited info available in terms of a release in Canada. Might have to bite the bullet and order off Amazon USA. Thoughts on the Tab 3 Plus anyone? Seem affordable and decent enough specs for a media/games tablet.
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Is the plus the one with the 4gb of ram?
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Is the plus the one with the 4gb of ram?
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The new Pro one mentioned above is the one with 4gb ram and has the projector. Appears Plus only has 3 gb of ram and is without the projector. Not very good with the technical spec stuff, so any tips/advice would be great! :laugh:
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Would love to see a Tab 3 Plus review, doesn't appear to be much info online... Also limited info available in terms of a release in Canada. Might have to bite the bullet and order off Amazon USA. Thoughts on the Tab 3 Plus anyone? Seem affordable and decent enough specs for a media/games tablet.
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Was going to buy one, but some actual reviews started coming out. The lenovo software lets the system down. It's a fairly standard processor/graphics (not world beating, not a slouch) but there seems to be something going on with audio sync and with an intermittent screen flicker that's giving me pause.
The whole thing should prove to be rootable/flashable, but this tablet's probably too niche to attract much of an xda community (and I'm a novice in that regards)
Just for info, my Tab 3 (YT3-X50F) upgraded to Android 6.0.1 today!
Never expected that. The download is 992Gb.
Only had time to do the upgrade, so I can't tell you if it's improved performance or not.
I'm hovering over the "buy" button on this one and would love to hear any impressions. No reviews for the current model on Amazon.
ETA: Actually, there are a couple paid reviews by clueless Amazon grannies, but not much helpful.
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Was going to buy one, but some actual reviews started coming out. The lenovo software lets the system down. It's a fairly standard processor/graphics (not world beating, not a slouch) but there seems to be something going on with audio sync and with an intermittent screen flicker that's giving me pause.
The whole thing should prove to be rootable/flashable, but this tablet's probably too niche to attract much of an xda community (and I'm a novice in that regards)
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I'm a novice in that regards too. Thanks for your thoughts/findings, I saw the same thing regarding the audio sync issue in the limited reviews that I have seen. If it wasn't of that audio sync issue, I would probably have pulled the trigger already since it seems to be what I am looking for in terms of a media device, but even a slight audio sync issue would annoy the hell out of me!
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I'm hovering over the "buy" button on this one and would love to hear any impressions. No reviews for the current model on Amazon.
ETA: Actually, there are a couple paid reviews by clueless Amazon grannies, but not much helpful.
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The Plus or the Pro? I just got the new 4gb RAM pro and its basically exactly the same as the 2gb ram pro that I am going to return. The differences are obviously the RAM and android 6.0 coming loaded on it. The RAM for me made a HUGE difference. The issue I had with my 2gb pro was that I couldnt play a vidoe in the background (yt red) and then browse websites. It would always close the video, I guess because it ram out of ram. Even worse is it would kill my screen dimming app in the background randomly when it needed ram and that has stopped as well. The 4gb of ram def makes a huge difference.
What sucks is I got the 2gb Pro for $350, and paid full price for the 4gb pro, so I am basically paying $150 more for 2gb of ram. Very annoying.
I am still considering sending both back though. I really need an AMOLED display, the lcd display is too bright for viewing in absolute darkness (99% of my usage) and the screen dimming apps work horrible on LCD screens it seems, they just reduce contrast but the screen is still giving off a lot of light. On the other hand the AMOLED displays just dim the pixels and it works so much better in dark rooms using dimming apps. The only thing keeping me from sending both back is the amazing jbl speakers and the atmos app, the sound on these tablets is mind blowing.
If I could just find a tablet with front facing high quality speakers and amoled screen that would be my perfect tablet, but one doesnt exist
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Looking at the 3gb of ram non-pro model, the main drawback I see is the really low resolution of 1280x800 for me that is too low, I dont like getting a tablet lower than 1080p. EDIT: it seems amazon is wrong, it has a 2560x1600p display. Now I am thinking of sending back both my pro models (2gb and 4gb models) and getting this and saving $200. I dont need the projector or the extra storage and the 3gb of ram should be enough. The main thing holding me back is the bad review mentioned above. I assume this has the exact same display as the pro.
I wonder how the Snap dragon 652 compares to the Atom SoC in the Pro? Anyone any ideas? I assume it has quickcharge 2.0 since the 652 supports it, the pro has quickcharge as well but its some other standard is my guess. (12v a 2amps on my pro)
mike240se said:
The Plus or the Pro? I just got the new 4gb RAM pro and its basically exactly the same as the 2gb ram pro that I am going to return. The differences are obviously the RAM and android 6.0 coming loaded on it. The RAM for me made a HUGE difference.
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Definitely the 4GB Pro. The comparison with the old model is very helpful, thanks! My main concerns are the reports of sluggishness and screen flicker on the older model (attributed on XDA to forced /data encryption), and also whether the Lenovo skinning and/or bloatware are excessive. I'd rather not count on XDA support for such a niche and somewhat pricey model, and from what I've read the methods for the old Pro brick this one. But it sounds like the upgraded RAM and CPU help. Do you find app launching and transitions smooth overall, and the display stable? Any annoyances with proprietary or otherwise preloaded apps?
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Definitely the 4GB Pro. The comparison with the old model is very helpful, thanks! My main concerns are the reports of sluggishness and screen flicker on the older model (attributed on XDA to forced /data encryption), and also whether the Lenovo skinning and/or bloatware are excessive. I'd rather not count on XDA support for such a niche and somewhat pricey model, and from what I've read the methods for the old Pro brick this one. But it sounds like the upgraded RAM and CPU help. Do you find app launching and transitions smooth overall, and the display stable? Any annoyances with proprietary or otherwise preloaded apps?
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I have noticed screen flicker but I didnt notice it on the original 2gb pro either. Maybe that is only on the snapdragon versions? It's not really sluggish but its not extremely fast when web browsing for example, but its not sluggish. I havent rooted or removed encryption because one guy tried to unencrypt and load recovery using the method for the 2gb version and I think he bricked it, he said he was RMA'ing it back to Lenovo (hope he doesnt have issues, I would think he voided his warranty )
The RAM def helps I can say that for sure, as I mention I couldnt run anything in the background without it being auto killed, now no such problem so far. I think the 6.0 is pretty good, it feels better than the 5.1 on the 2gb version, seems they fine tuned things a bit. As far as bloat I find it to be fairly unbloated, but I didnt think the 5.1 2gb versionw as too bloated either. It had a horrible implementation of the OS it seemed (due to the ram issue, 2gb is not a lot but it shouldnt have been as bad as it was with 2gb). They must have cleaned that up because I notice it rarely goes over 1.6-1.8gb of ram used. I will pay attention to the display more, I havent used it much yet, but will report back after some more time with it while specifically keeping an eye on the display.
Was talking to a Lenovo Sales Rep on their online chat system about the audio sync issue and she was saying they have "received information that all issues have been fixed." I asked her to be specific about the audio sync issue and she confirmed they were told the audio sync issue has been fixed. Any idea if this is true or was she just saying what she thought I wanted to hear?
Really like the Tab 3 Plus, sooo close to pulling the trigger, esp now that Lenovo Canada has it available for purchase... with a 3-4 week estimated shipping time though. Lame!
I had a go of the plus this afternoon, but in the UK they are selling the Pro 64gb version for £350 quid and the plus version is £250. Anyway I thought i would get the Pro version again after all as it seems to be the best of the bunch.
Just ordered the 3 Pro 4GB. Hope it's a good tablet.
I just ordered it after reading tons of reviews... I will try to play with it trying to get debian running
Does anyone here face poor battery life? Android System consumes over 50% of the entire battery all the time.
Hey guys, question for you.
I just switched from the pixel to the S8, been using it since Thursday. Is it just me or is the RAM management not as good as people say? I've seen multiple youtube reviews who have the same model as me (US T-Mobile variant) where they had 10 apps open and none of them refreshed upon reopening. When I do the same thing, 6 or 7 out of my 10 apps refresh everytime... Is there a setting where I can change the limit of background processes or something? It just doesn't make sense
Is nobody else having this issue?
I notice this happening a lot now especially in apps like facebook and chrome.
Happening all the time for me since the Nougat update. Worse yet, apps are getting completely killed. Not even in the switcher any more. Did not have this issue on my S7 Edge on Marshmallow but had it there as well after it got updates to Nougat. The S8+ just continued the same trend.
same issue on the S8+ ... quite annoying. If anyone has any ideas how to improve, please share.
Now even 3 gb ram phones are keeping more apps in the memory
I still haven't test it as i am waiting for a cover to take it out the box.
But is it possible its a configuration to kill the apps in background to make better the battery's life? Check in developer or in any place you can just in case. If not, it might be a bug then :/
Having the same issues. Was expecting better than management when they already increased the ram memory.
Just used the phone for 2 days and the service apps takes up 2gb ram.
What's the point of increasing the ram when the service apps already taking up half of it?
And it kills the app every time I switch apps. How annoying...