So anyone else thinking what im thinking HARD MODS baby. im a anti-government privacy pirate android junkie so naturally i take the camera modules out and im working on the GPS modules but i hav an idea to hav 2 batterys present in the phone now ive alrdy figured out how to mak the room but i need help wit the proper wiring set up. note in order to mak room the wireless copper charging coil will need to b removed "MAYBE" and the originally backin will need a cut out to accommodate the second battery as well as the internal frame<---thats 4 sure then simply apply a slickwrap to cover up
ADDed info: my main concern is the voltage from 2 batterys i know enough that doubling the voltage is bad [rlly bad lol, kill main board etc kinda bad] but doubling the battery capacity from 3220mah to 6440mah isnt CONCERN FIXED ONLY A PROBLEM IF CONNECTED IN SERIES NOT WEN IN PARALLEL ALSO VOLTAGE ON BOTH BATTERIES NEEDS TO B DAM NEAR THE SAME DEAD NUTS THE SAME
Dual battery mods completed safely and successfully on:
nexus 4 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4200mah-nexus-4-internal-battery-t2239829
samsung s3 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/accessories/samsung-4200mah-battery-mod-t1800177
Next issue is a minor soft mod which we'll need insight on the software file on the device the lists the 3220mah will need to b changed these/thise file could b used to calculate the correct battery percent to b shown in status bar or battery stat page in settings IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS LETS DO IT 169% BABY
so a OEM battery is thin and cheap enough that i mite add 2 batteries instead, 3 in total
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So anyone else thinking what im thinking HARD MODS baby. im a anti-government privacy pirate android junkie so naturally i take the camera modules out and im working on the GPS modules but i hav an idea to hav 2 batterys present in the phone now ive alrdy figured out how to mak the room but i need help wit the proper wiring set up. note in order to mak room the wireless copper charging coil will need to b removed "MAYBE" and the originally backin will need a cut out to accommodate the second battery as well as the internal frame<---thats 4 sure then simply apply a slickwrap to cover up
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
That being said... an extra battery would be cool
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
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agreed but ive done both alrdy to b safe, they could push/sideload wirelessly the files needed to use camera modules my main focus is the dual battery mod any input on the wiring set up unfortunately i dont no much bout batterys to pull this off
as of now with almst perfect conditions i can get round 8hrs SOT but i need more, mmmm battery whore, 8hrs SOT wit 23hrs phone idle, heavy use overclocked games PSP emulater 2.5hrs SOT wit 18hrs phone idle and min. use 3.5hrs SOT 7-9days phone idle not bad but i need better dual better
You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
That being said... an extra battery would be cool
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Not really too much. As all the fuctionality is still there. The only thing missing is the UI. You could still activate it by command line. Couldnt snap a pic or anything but you could activate the camera and then stream it to where ever if there is a data connection.
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Not at all. There are some that really do think that the Government is too wrapped up in our lives. There are also companies that require your cell phone to not have a camera.
Too many people these days have no idea about privacy. They have freely given it up. It is good to see someone that looks around at the world he lives in.
Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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Lol
Atticuspoint6 said:
Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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As for me. IT is part of the job. I work in many places that requires them to check on you from time to time. Heck the types of places I work even can dictate what type of device you can own and have with you. You also have to understand that there are things you can do to put yourself on thier watch list. It really isnt to hard to do really.
I perfect example is I was helping my son with a presentation on religious history and after downloading the Quran and was questioned about it less then a week later
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As for me. IT is part of the job. I work in many places that requires them to check on you from time to time. Heck the types of places I work even can dictate what type of device you can own and have with you. You also have to understand that there are things you can do to put yourself on thier watch list. It really isnt to hard to do really.
I perfect example is I was helping my son with a presentation on religious history and after downloading the Quran and was questioned about it less then a week later
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What else were you searching for, roofing nails(for that pesky leak) and pressure cookers (I have tomatoes to can, OK)?
All kidding aside, the amount of information out there on your average cell user is insane. Even before smartphones they could obtain a massive amount of information just from metadata.
I totally have respect for OP. Thanks for taking this thing apart, seeing how it ticks and deciding to make it tick different. Kudos on your cajones, sir!
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Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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You really dont think that turning off GPS on a device with the FEMA chip in it does any good do you?
Sometimes it is amazing how much people really dont know goes on in the world.
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You really dont think that turning off GPS on a device with the FEMA chip in it does any good do you?
Sometimes it is amazing how much people really dont know goes on in the world.
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Lulwut, FEMA chip?
Just glad we're not down that far on the 1984 road as you guys are over there (just yet). But FEMA chip? Any serious sources for that?
And questioning because of Quran searches? That PATRIOT act sure messed up something about your democracy if that is even remotely true.
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Lulwut, FEMA chip?
Just glad we're not down that far on the 1984 road as you guys are over there (just yet). But FEMA chip? Any serious sources for that?
And questioning because of Quran searches? That PATRIOT act sure messed up something about your democracy if that is even remotely true.
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You have no idea. That act was the dumbest thing people did and all because of the heat of the moment. They didnt read it and then got mad about it when they saw they gave the gov the right to monitor them.
You have not been around for long huh? The FEMA chip has been in devices for years. Search around. There are plenty of talks about it. Not sure if the FCC blueprints are still on the site but worth a look. There was a huge deal about it as it showed at one time to be connected to the mic and GPS moduals. Mind you this only applies to the US. This is part of the reason why our devs here prefer to get the EU models of devices.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestne...ecial-chip-in-cell-phones-to-send-out-alerts/
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lov n the feed back guys ok mayb i shouldnt hav included the anti-government stuff tho in the header we r gettin side tracked jus listed that 4 examples of hard mods i use now we need to conclude the project on hand dual battery somone has to no sombody who nos somthin bout batterys electrical components voltage regulators etc.
out source to friends and family
JUS IMAGINE UR F**KING AWESOME BELOVED SEXY NEXUS 6 WIT A 6440mah BATTERY GIV N HER JUICE
OK another side project while we wait for feedbac on dual battery
man name ur cars boats d**ks lol motorbikes w/e rite so if u had to pic a nick name 4 ur nexus 6 what would it b. b sides shamu [lol stupid name] or the use of "nexus"
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actually nope jus dont thinks its rite that ppl can c where i am and what im doin simply as that
For the batteries, connect them in parallel. + to +, - to -. I've done it on other phones and it works fine. I'm not sure how it would react with quickcharge, but I think it would be fine. I've actually been considering doing it on this phone as my battery is starting to show it's age. If I do, I will 3D print a frame and soft outer case much like how the ZeroLemon battery kit for the Note 3 was done.
Since you seem unsure about parallel vs series wiring, please read up on proper handling for lipo cells. I would not want to see anyone make their own Note 7 firebomb.
If you put the charging coil behind a battery, it won't work. Might as well save space and remove it. You might be able to relocate it to the outside battery.
If you are really concerned about GPS and camera, you should disconnect them or otherwise damage them. Can't do much about the mic though. If the GPS is marked, you can probably find a datasheet for it, then just cut the trace for power. Practice on an old PCB if you haven't done this before, you can cause serious damage to the board if you do it wrong. If a state level actor or good hacker is involved, they can still get rough location via cell towers, wifi IDs, and Stingrays. If you are really concerned, you should probably not carry a phone at all, or keep a metalized pouch with you to put it in (faraday cage).
After Snowden, and having worked in some environments, I get where people are coming from with it. In some cases it's not that people are doing anything wrong, they just want to have more control over their privacy. Not everyone wants their lives all over the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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mental help hahahaha im unfixable
ttabbal said:
For the batteries, connect them in parallel. + to +, - to -. I've done it on other phones and it works fine. I'm not sure how it would react with quickcharge, but I think it would be fine. I've actually been considering doing it on this phone as my battery is starting to show it's age. If I do, I will 3D print a frame and soft outer case much like how the ZeroLemon battery kit for the Note 3 was done.
Since you seem unsure about parallel vs series wiring, please read up on proper handling for lipo cells. I would not want to see anyone make their own Note 7 firebomb.
If you put the charging coil behind a battery, it won't work. Might as well save space and remove it. You might be able to relocate it to the outside battery.
If you are really concerned about GPS and camera, you should disconnect them or otherwise damage them. Can't do much about the mic though. If the GPS is marked, you can probably find a datasheet for it, then just cut the trace for power. Practice on an old PCB if you haven't done this before, you can cause serious damage to the board if you do it wrong. If a state level actor or good hacker is involved, they can still get rough location via cell towers, wifi IDs, and Stingrays. If you are really concerned, you should probably not carry a phone at all, or keep a metalized pouch with you to put it in (faraday cage).
After Snowden, and having worked in some environments, I get where people are coming from with it. In some cases it's not that people are doing anything wrong, they just want to have more control over their privacy. Not everyone wants their lives all over the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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"parallel" self explanatory
my question is where to put the bridge to hav both batteries usable do i bridge the batteries together which i think would create a charging loop [charging battery 1 would then charge battery 2 until both full] then wen disconnected the phone would still show charging state
[i think] until battery 2 was depleted
i could b wrong now what bout the voltage comin from 2 batteries the battery outputs 3.7v give or tak now doubling that 7.4v should fry the voltage regulators if any present no?
elite-NSX said:
"parallel" self explanatory
my question is where to put the bridge to hav both batteries usable do i bridge the batteries together which i think would create a charging loop [charging battery 1 would then charge battery 2 until both full] then wen disconnected the phone would still show charging state
[i think] until battery 2 was depleted
i could b wrong now what bout the voltage comin from 2 batteries the battery outputs 3.7v give or tak now doubling that 7.4v should fry the voltage regulators if any present no?
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That's not how it works. Batteries in parallel charge and discharge together. The voltage does not change. Batteries in series adds the voltages together. In parallel the voltage is the same but the current and capacity go up.
To the phone, batteries in parallel look like one battery. They do self-regulate/charge against each other, but the phone can't see that. For safety reasons, you need to make sure the voltage of the two batteries is similar, within about 0.1 volts, before connecting them. If you connected a fully charged battery to an empty one, the worst case, the full battery would dump power into the empty one trying to fill it to the same voltage. This would likely destroy the empty battery as it would not be able to handle a charge rate that high. It might also damage the full one, as cell phone batteries are not designed for high current discharge.
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I'm truly upset about this, because I think this phone is almost marvellous. But in the two weeks I've had it a few horrible problems have emerged, and I can't find solutions.
If anyone can help (REALLY help), I'd be very grateful.
So. Here I go:
1) The antennae (or whatever). I'm sitting here, in my study, which is in my garden, about 60 feet from the house. In the house (right on the kitchen window) I have a wi-fi AP, to boost the signal. In my study I have : a PS3; a desktop PC; a (Samsung) netbook; an iPhone 3gs; an HTC TP2, and the SGS2. Every single device has a good-to-excellent connection. Except the SGS2. Which says "poor", except that most of the time it can't get a signal at all - so that's not even as good as "poor";
2) I took a friend to hospital today. There were three of us in the waiting room. The SGS2 had no (phone) reception. The others did;
3) On the way to the hospital I needed to use Google Nav. I plugged the SGS2 into my car charger. It didn't charge. I've since tried three different chargers (and no, they weren't from Poundland). Same thing. The SGS2 just won't charge in my car if it needs plenty of juice. I've been trawling the webs and this seems to be a common issue - but nobody has a definite answer. I was about to spring for an official Sammy charger, but nobody seems to know for sure if it'll do the trick.
4) The sound isn't great, either in fidelity (and I'm using Shure SE530s, just so you know I care about good sound) or volume. It's tolerable, but only that. No comparison to my little Sansa clip, or even (I hate to say) the 3GS;
5) (though not as much as some, it would seem) the battery life is a bit meh. And I'm not a heavy user.
I read many people complaining about silly little things. A lot of them are down to software or simple ignorance. But a super-smartphone that has poor connectivity and can't be used as a satnav (whilst simultaneously charging). Well, I'm sorry, but...
As I said at the top, I'm genuinely miserable about this. I really, really thought that this was the Smartphone to Rule Them All.
And, again, if anyone can offer me hope that things will get better, please do. Sadly, I think I'll be going back to separate gadgets to fulfill my needs. A phone that works as a phone (and maybe a diary); a satnav that charges in the car; a music player that sounds good. Etc, etc.
ive got a crappy 8-in-1 car charger works fine.
I have none of the problems you said in your post so maybe you just got a **** phone, maybe return it for another.
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ive got a crappy 8-in-1 car charger works fine.
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Do you mean it works fine when you're also using satnav? Because there seem to be many, many people whose SGS2 won't charge when running satnav.
That's what I was thinking maybe one problem is tolerable but all those things you mentioned I would've been took that boy back for a swap out. Unless you brought it online.
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Mitty1990 said:
I have none of the problems you said in your post so maybe you just got a **** phone, maybe return it for another.
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Yes, maybe I have a "**** phone". Then again, lots of people seem to be having similar issues. Do you think there was a bad batch? Can you charge the phone in-car whilst using satnav? Is your wifi strength as good as your other devices?
I think I may call Vodafone now and see if a replacement helps. That's if they'll still swap it out.
If you arent happy with the phone, return it/exchange it.
simple as.
As for advice, read the threads.
I also have none of the problems you are suffering. My wifi works as well as any other device I have had. Phone signal is better on the same network a my htc desire. Sound quality is better than my desire. Battery life is so far pretty good and will get better with use and even better once 2.3.4 comes out very soon.
As for your charging issues while using nav this is a common thing with cheap chargers, you might not have got it from poundland but its just not supplying enough juice. Had exactly the same problem when I first got my desire over a year ago, ended up modifying my car charger by soldering the data wires together to force it to max out its current output. Use that same charger for my sg2.
The only problem ive had is the car charger one which i didnt realise untill yesterday. All your other problems dont exist on my phone so mabey exchange it
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Do you mean it works fine when you're also using satnav? Because there seem to be many, many people whose SGS2 won't charge when running satnav.
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just been out to the car and can confirm, it charges fine with google navigation running - seems to make no difference with mine navigation or not.
keep soldiering on dont give up on yer sgs2 yet!
With reference to the car charger problem while using satnav look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702&highlight=car+charger&page=2
Thats the thread from the HTC desire doing the exact same thing. If your charger is 1000ma you should be able to mod it or a cable so that it will happily charge your sg2, if not make sure the next one you buy can supply enough current.
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1) The antennae (or whatever)
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The phone seems to have love/hate relationships with different routers. In the way I use it, it works as well as a G2 and G2X connecting in the same locations. I have a beast of a router and what I tend to connect to (airports, hotels, airplanes) have better than average equipment. People have had some luck by replacing their router. If it's software, the imminent 2.3.4. update may help.
The SGS2 had no (phone) reception. The others did
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There have been various postings on this. People with issues popped another carriers SIM in the phone and in a lot of cases the problem went away. Try replacing your SIM. If the phone's just not good reception wise in the areas you travel or on the network you use you may have to return it.
3) The SGS2 just won't charge in my car if it needs plenty of juice.
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I've been using the LG charger from my G2X and it keeps the phone battery-positive using Nav and Bluetooth audio streaming. There's a thread dedicated to this somewhere, do a search.
The sound isn't great I'm using Shure SE530s
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I have the same headphones and am quite pleased with the output. I also stream Bluetooth in my car and the phone easily outperforms the G2 and G2X. There's a long thread discussing audio and a couple of folks using Shure's were getting different results. It might be a hardware issue with your particular phone. But, judging audio is subjective so what's good for me may not be for you.
5) (though not as much as some, it would seem) the battery life is a bit meh. And I'm not a heavy user.
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There's an issue with the suspend process in 2.3.3. that drains the battery at idle. The imminent 2.3.4. update should correct this.
I also noted poor wifi signal. Changed my router to a better one and it fixed the issue, however I still have problems in my travels ( hotels, bars, airports ).
Regrading the navigation, I did a total of 2500km ( 2 long trips of 900 km each + other small and medium trips ) with the phone being in nav mode. I had the battery issue you described due to overheating, but as soon as I protected the phone from direct sunlight ( a small piece of paper over it ) or kept a small flow of air on it ( placed it near the AC vent and redirected the flow twoards it ) the issue got resolved. Using a 500mA car USB charger my phone stays cool at about 36 degrees C and the battery gets +1% every few mins ( navigation + wifi tethering on with Kies over wifi activated ). In regards to the software, I mainly use iGo or Copilot.
So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems.
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just been out to the car and can confirm, it charges fine with google navigation running - seems to make no difference with mine navigation or not.
keep soldiering on dont give up on yer sgs2 yet!
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Thanks for that, mate. Just to say: my phone "says" it's charging in the car; but when I do a drive with the satnav, then unplug the phone, it hasn't actually been charging. Again, I'm not the only one with this problem (or feature).
@azra2k
"So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems."
Thanks for those suggestions. Really, though: why should that be necessary? It's all a bit Heath-Robinson, is it not? I don't have to put pieces of paper over other satnav devices, or lodge them in the a/c vents.
I may buy the official Samsung charger but there are people elsewhere who've had no luck with that.
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Thanks for that, mate. Just to say: my phone "says" it's charging in the car; but when I do a drive with the satnav, then unplug the phone, it hasn't actually been charging. Again, I'm not the only one with this problem (or feature).
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Sat nav will max out the phones power draw, reducing charging to a trickle, it's just a case of taking out almost as much as you are putting in.
I find from using wifi analyser on a few devices what Samsung call two bars in signal strength, most other devices call 3.
Not sure why that is.
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@azra2k
"So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems."
Thanks for those suggestions. Really, though: why should that be necessary? It's all a bit Heath-Robinson, is it not? I don't have to put pieces of paper over other satnav devices, or lodge them in the a/c vents.
I may buy the official Samsung charger but there are people elsewhere who've had no luck with that.
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Well, I'm sorry, but I find it completely normal to say that some charger we got off eBay, third-party probably that's not even a brand name, isn't capable of feeding our next gen device that has not only a dual core processor, the most ram on the market on any phone, a GIANT screen, not enough dissipation space (for heat) to keep it thin as thin as thin. I'm worried about battery life as well, but oh well. It's the price we have to pay! hehe.
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And, again, if anyone can offer me hope that things will get better, please do. Sadly, I think I'll be going back to separate gadgets to fulfill my needs. A phone that works as a phone (and maybe a diary); a satnav that charges in the car; a music player that sounds good. Etc, etc.
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Sorry to hear this...but the problem isn't the "GS2" it's your specific GS2. The vast majority of users have maybe one of your problems, which either fixes it self, or fixed through an update. There are even more, who don't even have any of those problems.
I think that you have a faulty unit and if you are upset, get a replacement, because the GSII is one fine device and capable of doing all you need it to do.
Please read my last post for the correct answer to the satnav power supply problem. It has nothing to do with ventilation and everything to do with the type of charger you are using.
You could buy a 1000ma very expensive charger and it still might not charge your phone when under extreme load. Some chargers will only supply 500ma as that is the max that a usb socket on your motherboard is supposed to supply. Doing the mod I described earlier solves this.
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@azra2k
"So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems."
Thanks for those suggestions. Really, though: why should that be necessary? It's all a bit Heath-Robinson, is it not? I don't have to put pieces of paper over other satnav devices, or lodge them in the a/c vents.
I may buy the official Samsung charger but there are people elsewhere who've had no luck with that.
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I only make sure that the AC is blowing through the defrost holes also... the airflow required is minimum. This applies to all phones and even other dark colored gps devices I owned before... In the summer, the sun heats up the phone and/or gps device a lot. As a test, try leaving the phone in the cradle in the car ( under direct sunlight ) for an hour. The phone can be kept at idle, or even closed. It will heat up a lot... I remember I threw away a compact photo camera cause I forgot it on the dashboard for a day, in the summer (it was pretty much melted and very deformed)...
So a bit of common sense will fix the temperature issues... the charging problems appear due to the temperature issues. If the batter temp is above 50 degrees it will stop charging. When you keep the batter under 50 degrees, a 500mA decent charger will be more than enough to keep the phone running and slowly charge the battery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz9ln266aaY
Hi all,
I have posted a youtube link on my S2 battery
It is deformed and used only for 6 months. This is an original battery
Can't believe Samsung can produce such low quality battery.
Pls be informed and check your battery always just in case (who knows it might blow up)
One bad ten million good .
jje
Have mine the same length of time and no such problems, could be a multitude of reasons as to why this happened, a replacement battery doesn't cost that much anyway.
at the end of day,nothing is perfect and samsung arnt the only one to make this mistake but we are talking very slim numbers
TheiPhoneKiller said:
at the end of day,nothing is perfect and samsung arnt the only one to make this mistake but we are talking very slim numbers
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true. if it is just battery dead fine but this kind of faulty battery can lead to explosion and a safety hazard
tanwt said:
true. if it is just battery dead fine but this kind of faulty battery can lead to explosion and a safety hazard
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absolutly,if the battery was live and anything was to happen than Samsung will be held liable due to the manufacturing defect in the mean time if anyone does start to have the problem,they should stop using the battery and contact Samsung asap and get them to replace under warranty otherwise it damage your device and worse yourself but were talking probably about 1 or 2% of all made
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true. if it is just battery dead fine but this kind of faulty battery can lead to explosion and a safety hazard
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Sound advice, but as stated there will be a small numer effected.. However, can you contact Samsung regarding this and provide them with the serial number of the battery.... maybe it's a bad batch, they should also replace it under warranty.
Dmonty said:
Sound advice, but as stated there will be a small numer effected.. However, can you contact Samsung regarding this and provide them with the serial number of the battery.... maybe it's a bad batch, they should also replace it under warranty.
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i did went to their customer service. since it is out of warranty (by a few days), they don't even want to look at it (although i showed to them how deformed it is). they just say you need to buy a new one
when i just walked away, they have the chick to ask me "hey, aren't you buying the battery"?
sounds like they care about making money and not improving their product
tanwt said:
i did went to their customer service. since it is out of warranty (by a few days), they don't even want to look at it (although i showed to them how deformed it is). they just say you need to buy a new one
when i just walked away, they have the chick to ask me "hey, aren't you buying the battery"?
sounds like they care about making money and not improving their product
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How is it out of warranty if you say it is only 6 months old?? You should get a minimum of 1 years warranty on your phone with the manufacturer.
battery is only 6 months
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battery is only 6 months
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Yip, you're right, I thought the warranty would be 12 months.... confirmed as 6 months on the below link :
http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/warranty/warrantyInformation.do?page=POLICY.WARRANTY
nothing is perfect!!!
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Well... You battery actually looks like something smacked your phone on the back side^^
I can't image a single reason why a Smartphone battery would deform, but I really
recommend switching to an new one because Lithium gets really angry when exposed to fresh air... (I heard there is this official 2000 MAh battery available for like 20 - 30 bucks.... )
damn you really gotta be a unlucky guy, those type of defects on hardware are 1 in a million.
i have the original battery for over 6 months and it stills in perfect conditions.
now i have also the 2000mAh and its also perfect.
now, what i sugest is, buy a new battery and fast, you might risk yourself to get burned or something like that.
if you what an advice, before buying a new battery, think if its better the normal 1650mAh battery or the newer 2000mAh battery.
The newer turns the phone a bit more heavy but gives you better handling and much more time before it drains out all charge.
ps. sorry for my bad english, lol
Barratas said:
Well... You battery actually looks like something smacked your phone on the back side^^
I can't image a single reason why a Smartphone battery would deform, but I really
recommend switching to an new one because Lithium gets really angry when exposed to fresh air... (I heard there is this official 2000 MAh battery available for like 20 - 30 bucks.... )
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my guess is abnormal chemical reaction in the battery
just to clarify. i didn't overclock, use stock rom and didn't drop my phone (or battery) at all
sure, i won't use this battery. already removed it. sourcing for replacement now
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damn you really gotta be a unlucky guy, those type of defects on hardware are 1 in a million.
i have the original battery for over 6 months and it stills in perfect conditions.
now i have also the 2000mAh and its also perfect.
now, what i sugest is, buy a new battery and fast, you might risk yourself to get burned or something like that.
if you what an advice, before buying a new battery, think if its better the normal 1650mAh battery or the newer 2000mAh battery.
The newer turns the phone a bit more heavy but gives you better handling and much more time before it drains out all charge.
ps. sorry for my bad english, lol
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well, i am unlucky and lucky at the same time
unlucky - got this 1 in a million defect
lucky - detect it before it explode when talking on the phone (btw, the battery is still functional)
Do you play 3D games while your phone is charging? It looks like classical overheated battery. Happen to my old Nokia too.
The camera work it liable to making you throw up. I did comment to say as much. Either way it's probably one out of a million, which in mass manufacturing is pretty good.
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Do you play 3D games while your phone is charging? It looks like classical overheated battery. Happen to my old Nokia too.
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i did play play some games while charging and yes, the temperature did indicate it did goes up to 45C
but i was told this kind of heat is ok. nothing to worry about
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The camera work it liable to making you throw up. I did comment to say as much. Either way it's probably one out of a million, which in mass manufacturing is pretty good.
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sorry about that
will take note of this kind of "effect" in the future
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If you're about to ask me if I've considered an ssd instead, know this. I may be an idiot, but I'm not that stupid. My IQ may be around 30 or so, but It's just high enough for me to figure out that an ssd is a much better option than an hdd. Jesus christ, stop asking this question already. The reason I've opted to put in an hdd instead of an ssd is because of cost. It cost me about $50 to for a 750GB hdd. An ssd with the same capacity will cost an arm and a leg. Go ahead and look that up.
So, please, if you're going to suggest I use an ssd, consider reading the above paragraph. And if you're going to email me telling me what an idiot I am for using an hdd instead of an ssd (like that turd a couple days ago), then also consider pushing the donate button right below my name so I have enough money to buy an ssd with comparative capacity. Goodness...
People, just because this is the internet doesn't mean everyone else beside you have an IQ of a potato. Get over yourself already.
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I'm making a new thread because this is an entirely different mod than the other one.
So, I've added 2 more battery cells parallel to the other ones, doubling the capacity while maintaining the voltage. in addition, I've also added a 750 GB HDD.
Unlike the other mod, which suffered no deformation, there is a little bit of deformation in this mod. I can still close the netbook form. And if you look, you can see the curvature of the keyboard dock. It's not very noticeable, but if you know it's there you can definitely see it. Here are the pictures. I am currently testing out the battery capacity to see if it's really doubled like it's suppose to. We'll see, I guess.
By the way, while I am very happy with my result, despite the slight deformity to my dock, I definitely recommend against this for anyone else.
Speaking of which, how do I recalibrate the battery indicator? Looks like it's dropping at exactly the same speed as before.
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Speaking of which, how do I recalibrate the battery indicator? Looks like it's dropping at exactly the same speed as before.
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I'm new to tablets, but on my Android phone you can run a app like battery calibration and it deletes batterystat.bin file.
Btw, cool mods I would be really interested in double battery.
maciek82 said:
I'm new to tablets, but on my Android phone you can run a app like battery calibration and it deletes batterystat.bin file.
Btw, cool mods I would be really interested in double battery.
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It only affects the tablet battery. I can't get a definite answer from all my searches how to recalibrate the dock battery.
Aw, the deformation is a no in my book, but I think the mods themselves are awesome. If I tried this, I think I'd go for more batteries because I can't find enough stuff to fill my 32g usd cards anyway.. (or a secret compartment storing unmentionables).
goodintentions said:
It only affects the tablet battery. I can't get a definite answer from all my searches how to recalibrate the dock battery.
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Ahhh.... Yes forgot about dock battery. Don't own one
asdfuogh said:
Aw, the deformation is a no in my book, but I think the mods themselves are awesome. If I tried this, I think I'd go for more batteries because I can't find enough stuff to fill my 32g usd cards anyway.. (or a secret compartment storing unmentionables).
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I don't blame you. The deformation is hardly noticeable, but it is there. I'm actually happy with this setup. The slight deformation doesn't bother me. As long as I can still close the netbook form.
Now, if only I could find a way to calibrate the dock battery.
Impressive work! Let us know how long the battery lasts.
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Impressive work! Let us know how long the battery lasts.
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Well, I gotta figure out a way to recalibrate the dock battery first. It's dropping at exactly the same rate as when I only had 2 cells. Can't freakin' figure out how to do this.
By the way, I think I saw that you said your method is more refined and less risky now in another thread; is the method different, or have you refined your skills? If the method is different, could you post a tutorial? I think I might attempt it after I find out if I got into any good grad programs.. (because then I will know whether or not I will have some amount of money to burn for no damn reason ).
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By the way, I think I saw that you said your method is more refined and less risky now in another thread; is the method different, or have you refined your skills?
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Both, actually. Before, I was both stumbling around blind and doing things in not so efficient and safe way. My soldering skills have improved greatly and I have also refined my procedure to involve no risk at all. It's all in the wrist, man.
If the method is different, could you post a tutorial? I think I might attempt it after I find out if I got into any good grad programs.. (because then I will know whether or not I will have some amount of money to burn for no damn reason ).
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Uh... no. This mod voids your warranty. I will take my methods with me to the grave.
PS - Isn't it obvious from the photos?
Added by edit.
Ok, my conscience got the better of me. There is something I left out of the photos. A key ingredient to making this whole mod work. Without this very simple but critical thing that is covered up by other components in the dock, the mod might as well be a piece of brick. It took thousands of hours and millions of dollars of research to figure out this one small piece of modification to make the whole thing work. My dock was sitting there for almost a month dead before I brought it back to life with this thing I'm speaking of.
In other words, don't try this. Trust me, you'll regret it not knowing what this thing I'm talking about is. It took me a whole month to figure out this thing. Thinking back, my goodness, the solution was so simple. And yet it took me a whole month to solve it.
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I just figured out how to make the deformation go away. Damn, why didn't I think of this before. I'm too lazy now to open it up and apply the fix.
Are you not worried about charging two separate battery cells without a load balancing charger? At least from the RC world, this is a big negative. Fire can be no fun.
ratindahat said:
Are you not worried about charging two separate battery cells without a load balancing charger? At least from the RC world, this is a big negative. Fire can be no fun.
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Exactly why I just took it apart again to redo my setup. Will update on my progress later.
Ho ho ho, just figured out a safe way to connect the bats. Too late now. Will do it tomorrow.
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Are you not worried about charging two separate battery cells without a load balancing charger? At least from the RC world, this is a big negative. Fire can be no fun.
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Exactly right, lion/lipo batteries need to be balanced in charge otherwise you will burn out the batteries and in extreme cases, BURN the batteries.
Having said that, many/most of the lipo batteries I have worked with in electronics have balancing circuits per "cell" so in reality you can simply add them like any battery and they take care of themselves. If lipo batteries were purchased without that circuit, then they are very cheap to buy and add as well.
I havent cracked the transformer, and dont plan to because the stock battery life is plenty for me; however, I have increased the battery capacity on several laptops, and other types of devices, and the first key is to ensure the cells are balanced before connecting them together, then ensuring you have a balancing circuit to EACH cell otherwise over time they will come out of balance (normal use and internal resistance). Once you have done those two things, you can connect them and use them.
Now, the other point is the meters. I have no idea about the transformer but most battery meters work simply on the voltage on the batteries and assume the discharge in a linear fashion. This is rarely true for batteries, but it is simple, cheap and gives you an idea about how much power you have left. Sometimes this is error is covered by software that "maps" the battery discharge rate and gives you a "real" battery left level. So to the point of all that paragraph, once you balance the batteries, connect them and run through a few full charge/discharge cycles, you will likely find that the meter will catch up.
A point of caution, the word "cell" does not refer to a nicely packaged lipo battery with two wires. A cell is a single constructed unit that is usually 3.7v in the lipo world (different chemistries of batteries will have different voltages). If you added a pair of 3.7v (1s1p) batteries in parellel with a pair of 7v batteries (2s1p) you could really confuse the battery meters.
Enjoy the mod, I love reading about them..
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Interesting stuff, makes me wish I had the tools (especially a soldering iron) and more desk space, just to see what experiments could be had with this device.
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lrissman said:
Exactly right, lion/lipo batteries need to be balanced in charge otherwise you will burn out the batteries and in extreme cases, BURN the batteries.
Having said that, many/most of the lipo batteries I have worked with in electronics have balancing circuits per "cell" so in reality you can simply add them like any battery and they take care of themselves. If lipo batteries were purchased without that circuit, then they are very cheap to buy and add as well.
I havent cracked the transformer, and dont plan to because the stock battery life is plenty for me; however, I have increased the battery capacity on several laptops, and other types of devices, and the first key is to ensure the cells are balanced before connecting them together, then ensuring you have a balancing circuit to EACH cell otherwise over time they will come out of balance (normal use and internal resistance). Once you have done those two things, you can connect them and use them.
Now, the other point is the meters. I have no idea about the transformer but most battery meters work simply on the voltage on the batteries and assume the discharge in a linear fashion. This is rarely true for batteries, but it is simple, cheap and gives you an idea about how much power you have left. Sometimes this is error is covered by software that "maps" the battery discharge rate and gives you a "real" battery left level. So to the point of all that paragraph, once you balance the batteries, connect them and run through a few full charge/discharge cycles, you will likely find that the meter will catch up.
A point of caution, the word "cell" does not refer to a nicely packaged lipo battery with two wires. A cell is a single constructed unit that is usually 3.7v in the lipo world (different chemistries of batteries will have different voltages). If you added a pair of 3.7v (1s1p) batteries in parellel with a pair of 7v batteries (2s1p) you could really confuse the battery meters.
Enjoy the mod, I love reading about them..
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I just redid the mod. Unfortunately, it was 3am and I forgot to take pictures before I closed up the dock. But basically what I did was charged both batteries up to 100% and connected them in parallel as is with their balancing circuits. Before, I took the cells out and added them to the circuit of the other one. This time I kept the circuits and added the circuits together.
It seems to work. The new battery pack is recognized. We'll see what happens later.
Here is a picture to give you an idea.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/38673648/pictures/picsay-1324448610.jpg
Can you leave out the hard drive and put two extra batteries?
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Can you leave out the hard drive and put two extra batteries?
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Why?
I'd rather have more storage.
If I were to send you my dock and money to buy supplies and labor
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Ok, so im not new to android modding, hacking, rooting ,etc. Ive rooted many samsung, motorola and nexus devices. But my question is, is it safe to let the nexus 4 bateey hit 0%? Ive read that nexus 4 is hard to bring back once it hits zero.
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Ok, so im not new to android modding, hacking, rooting ,etc. Ive rooted many samsung, motorola and nexus devices. But my question is, is it safe to let the nexus 4 bateey hit 0%? Ive read that nexus 4 is hard to bring back once it hits zero.
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It'll turn itself off before it reaches dangerously low battery levels, so just avoid trying to turn it back on until you've plugged it in to a charger.
jamescable said:
Ok, so im not new to android modding, hacking, rooting ,etc. Ive rooted many samsung, motorola and nexus devices. But my question is, is it safe to let the nexus 4 bateey hit 0%? Ive read that nexus 4 is hard to bring back once it hits zero.
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No phone battery, android or any other should hit 0%. The battery will calibrate itself anyway after a few charges. So just plug it in at 10-15%.
Ive heard that when the phone gets really low, even charging overnight doesnt do anything?
How about you just don't let it hit zero? Do you really want to find out the hard way what might happen? You may live if you jump off a bridge, but would you try it? Come on... a little common sense goes a long way.
If it dies, send it back. Not rocket science is it.
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Ive heard that when the phone gets really low, even charging overnight doesnt do anything?
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Well, if you manage to completely discharge a Li-ion battery you physically damage the battery, however phones (and laptops, and anything else with a Li-ion battery) are set to turn themselves off before the battery is completely discharged. That means the phone may report 0% battery remaining and turn off, but actually there are still a few %% left in reserve to prevent damage to the battery.
When it reaches 0% just turns down itself, plug in to a charger and in 5min you can boot him up without worries. I forgot it one night @ 6% and when i woke up it was switched off.
Its a battery, and even @ 0% doesnt mean the battery reaches 0mv...
sorry but...OMG
Nothing will happen, the phone is set to shut down at 0% but it's a false reading, in reality the battery still has a few mah in reserve... this is so you don't get sudden loss of power which may result in data loss.
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How about you just don't let it hit zero? Do you really want to find out the hard way what might happen? You may live if you jump off a bridge, but would you try it? Come on... a little common sense goes a long way.
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Or you could know the simple truth: the phone will turn itself off before the battery discharges too much and thus it's perfectly safe to let it run down. Seriously you think there wouldn't be a massive antenna-gate style scandal if you could ruin your phone just by letting it run down naturally? How many people do you think every single day run out of power on their smartphones?
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If it dies, send it back. Not rocket science is it.
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Well, I think before RMA'ing it he should do some research and try to fix it, in such an occasion. Going straight for the RMA is a bit hasty, and makes Google not want to continue making such great devices for so cheap. I'm sure you didn't mean go straight for RMA, but I wanted to point that out for anyone else reading this.
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As many have pointed out, the battery has it's own circuits to make sure it doesn't reach 0, and to make sure it doesn't over-charge. That's on the battery itself, it has nothing to do with the Nexus 4, the OS, or anything else. You'll be fine. I would still advise in plugging it in at around 10% battery if you can, though.
Thanks for the feedback and help
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Well, I think before RMA'ing it he should do some research and try to fix it, in such an occasion. Going straight for the RMA is a bit hasty, and makes Google not want to continue making such great devices for so cheap. I'm sure you didn't mean go straight for RMA, but I wanted to point that out for anyone else reading this.
On-Topic:
As many have pointed out, the battery has it's own circuits to make sure it doesn't reach 0, and to make sure it doesn't over-charge. That's on the battery itself, it has nothing to do with the Nexus 4, the OS, or anything else. You'll be fine. I would still advise in plugging it in at around 10% battery if you can, though.
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My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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I agree with you that you shouldn't feel bad when RMA'ing legitimately. I was merely pointing out that when you have a problem, you should do some research to figure out whether it's a common problem with a common and easy fix before you jump right to RMA. Your post was heavily implying that RMA is the first stop fix-all. You probably didn't mean it to imply that, but to some other person coming here and reading it, they would feel nudged into RMA'ing right off. We are saying the same thing, I was just advising anyone else reading this thread to do a 30 second Google search on their problem before plunging right into the RMA process.
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My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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Well put... i couldn't have said it better.
N10AP said:
My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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Do you also tank gas in your car after the tank is bone dry, all gasfumes are used and the car stopped?
gee2012 said:
Do you also tank gas in your car after the tank is bone dry, all gasfumes are used and the car stopped?
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Sorry can you translate? Trouble understanding u my friend.
If you run out of fuel, you can put more in it and the car isn't dead. With more fuel it will be fine. Bit of a rubbish anology there mate.
I don't know what you are getting at.
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N10AP said:
Sorry can you translate? Trouble understanding u my friend.
If you run out of fuel, you can put more in it and the car isn't dead. With more fuel it will be fine. Bit of a rubbish anology there mate.
I don't know what you are getting at.
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My post looks quite clear to me
If you were to completely drain the battery , somehow. Either charge or replace it. Phone will turn on..
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Yep. It's true that nexus 4s are a little hard to revive after a dead battery. Some revive fine, some die instantly.
I'd say don't get it to 0 though. All batteries will suffer from it.
Sorry if these points have been said already, didn't read the whole thread.
Hi all.
Let me explain the situation. I have a galaxy y (cdma variant - sold in india). This has only been rooted. No custom roms, kernels, cwm or anything. Its used just to call a few numbers. It is charged every night and Tasker reboots the phone at 12 o'clock as it does with everybody elses phones in the house. Now, on one fine day, i had turned my phone off (i was on vacation) and the phone was simply lying there (with battery inside) and no charger connected. This is at 6:59 AM. The clock struck 7:00 AM and my weird phone......(wait for it)........powered itself on. Without any aid or support or charger. There are no settings for such a thing to happen nor any alarms for 7:00 AM. This phone is never on the internet and the same apps on it are on a variety of different phones in my house. It did this same thing for seven days in a row, exactly at 7:00 AM, no matter how i powered the phone off. Now, my experience with electronics has taught me that this kind of thing is impossible. Any ideas, theories, explanations?
xyancompgeek said:
Hi all.
Let me explain the situation. I have a galaxy y (cdma variant - sold in india). This has only been rooted. No custom roms, kernels, cwm or anything. Its used just to call a few numbers. It is charged every night and Tasker reboots the phone at 12 o'clock as it does with everybody elses phones in the house. Now, on one fine day, i had turned my phone off (i was on vacation) and the phone was simply lying there (with battery inside) and no charger connected. This is at 6:59 AM. The clock struck 7:00 AM and my weird phone......(wait for it)........powered itself on. Without any aid or support or charger. There are no settings for such a thing to happen nor any alarms for 7:00 AM. This phone is never on the internet and the same apps on it are on a variety of different phones in my house. It did this same thing for seven days in a row, exactly at 7:00 AM, no matter how i powered the phone off. Now, my experience with electronics has taught me that this kind of thing is impossible. Any ideas, theories, explanations?
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Maybe it's coincident
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7 days in a row?? heh....i dont think so.
Get your tin foil hat, "they" are coming. "They" may use your droid for the insidious purposes of tracking and enslaving you, the way it's acting you'd best smash it with at least an 8 lb. sledge...
LOL, really man? Ever hear of electrical resistance? Ever hear of resistance being the killer of all machinery... 2+2=?
GLITCH. Simple as that. No "phenomenon" unless you are reading too much into it...
Put it into perspective, it helps people a little. A car manufacturer makes millions of cars, a certain percentage are failures right off the line, some last longer than others. You're Galaxy is made of many millions (or billions) more parts all operating on a sub atomic level with electrons in place of gasoline, what's your chances of perfection there?
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Explain further man.........seems weird that an electrical resistance can cause my phone to power on at 7 o'clock dot. Btw....I've come back from vacation......still happening here. Isn't it a bit too precise to be malfunction? Ill admit though, the title is theatrical. Its what I was aiming for.
Sorry but furthermore I must add that an unwillingness to poison yourself with caffiene and debug millions of lines of code and a need to have something complex function exactly as you wish are two incompatible variables in your system... Good luck with that...
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So there aren't any ideas, theories or explanations. Thanks for clearing that up.....
Haha, no pleasing people these days, is there.. You want a device that somehow "magically" creates a touch controlled image on a display, contains gps, phone, SMS, wifi and mobile internet, oh and it has to do what you want right now if not sooner without a single error all while subject to infinitely variable environmental radiation at all different frequencies? Better get to work, it hasn't been done yet and you could make billions if you figure that out...
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I asked for an explanation buddy. I am 'pleased' with your answer and had already considered it before asking the community. Do everybody a favour, drop the sarcasm, it might actually help you. I'm not looking for an answer anymore. Its a software glitch.....as quoted from a boring person.
xyancompgeek said:
So there aren't any ideas, theories or explanations. Thanks for clearing that up.....
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Hrmm. Sarcasm met with sarcasm but you want to be offended.... ok...
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Correction......sarcasm neutralizes sarcasm. You seemed to be offended by the very idea of a phone malfunctioning in such a manner. So much so that you actually criticized the person who put it up. Atleast TomalinSGY had the decency to point it out without sarcasm. Yours is an answer, its not one that i havent considered. Im just checking if there is another... Whos to say that this software bug could be used by hackers to power on your phone when its clearly off. All hypothetical of course.
proof (video) or it didnt happen -,-
bcause this kind of thing is strange
no one has ever encntrd something like this before....
i dont know if u r trying to pull a prank or something
In usual cases the external interrupt needed to wake the proccy is provided by pressing and holding power but it seems that in your case a paranormal force is powering up the parallel plates of inbuilt micro capacitance which then buffer out voltage proportional to load current from source (batter) into mux and then to peripheral programming interface via an adc.
Hope I've explained everything
Keep Calm and Call the Ghost Hunters.
http://www.the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/
This CREEPS me out...
I think your phone is POSSESSED...:laugh::laugh:
Maybe it's just accidental
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Maybe someone should have this thread closed before it creeps out more visitors
Hi all.<br />
Let me explain the situation. I have a galaxy y (cdma variant - sold in india). This has only been rooted. No custom roms, kernels, cwm or anything. Its used just to call a few numbers. It is charged every night and Tasker reboots the phone at 12 o'clock as it does with everybody elses phones in the house. Now, on one fine day, i had turned my phone off (i was on vacation) and the phone was simply lying there (with battery inside) and no charger connected. This is at 6:59 AM. The clock struck 7:00 AM and my weird phone......(wait for it)........powered itself on. Without any aid or support or charger. There are no settings for such a thing to happen nor any alarms for 7:00 AM. This phone is never on the internet and the same apps on it are on a variety of different phones in my house. It did this same thing for seven days in a row, exactly at 7:00 AM, no matter how i powered the phone off. Now, my experience with electronics has taught me that this kind of thing is impossible. Any ideas, theories, explanations?
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Hahaha.... strange problem, i you think there's a software issue, just reflash the stock rom.
HIT LIKE IF I HELPED YOU.
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my 2 cents
most devices like phones and computers are actually on when they are 'off'. A small trickle of current remains to keep the clock ticking and detect when the power button is pressed. Now there are many phones (feature phones usually) that allow auto power on at certain times. so most likely it's a bug in the scripting or the programming of the OS. I would recommend restoring to factory, if that doesn't solve the problem then flash the stock rom again
Get that bloody phone , backup and flash it via Odin right away....Unless u are too scared to touch it too??
LOL....Dunno the reason , but if it bothers u , just format it....
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