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New battery 5000mAh

Anyone had heard about this new battery if yes any feedback?
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/461721767/New_replacement_battery_for_Acer_A500.html
Thanks

What is the capacity of the stock battery? I am impressed by how long the stock one lasts, but would much rather have a super capacity battery in there for an even longer run time.

IIRC, the stock battery is 3260mAh.

FloatingFatMan said:
IIRC, the stock battery is 3260mAh.
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Correct, and there are actually 2 of them.
So does this mean we can have a pair of 5000mAh batteries? That would be awesome!

Bloodflame said:
Correct, and there are actually 2 of them.
So does this mean we can have a pair of 5000mAh batteries? That would be awesome!
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Actually there is only one, but this one is 2cell battery. Li-Po batteries come in cells, one cell is 3,7V. So you can build them like legos. You can add cells in series to increase voltage (1S 3,7V, 2S 7,4V, 3S 11,1V) or in parallel to increase endurance (1S 3,7V 2500mAh + in parallel 1S 3,7V 2500mAh = 1S2P 3,7V 5000mAh).

Is there a teardown guide for our tablet?

Yes, several of them.

So would this battery have a longer life than the stock battery?

kuhar2638 said:
Actually there is only one, but this one is 2cell battery. Li-Po batteries come in cells, one cell is 3,7V. So you can build them like legos. You can add cells in series to increase voltage (1S 3,7V, 2S 7,4V, 3S 11,1V) or in parallel to increase endurance (1S 3,7V 2500mAh + in parallel 1S 3,7V 2500mAh = 1S2P 3,7V 5000mAh).
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Theres two 3260 bats. In teardowns it looks as though its one because both are together.

Nop. Only one, but inside this one are two cells. So only one battery.

Theres two 3260s. Not one. If there is only one 3260 I doubt our tabs would last as long as it already does. Call it one or two batteries whatever, like the specs say, 3260x2

Look. There is only one battery 7,4V 3260mAh 24WH Li-Po in our Iconia. Inside this battery are two Li-Po cells each 3,7V 3260mAh connected in series so capacity remain the same only voltage is doubled. My laptop has 9 cell battery but I'm not saying that I have 9 batteries. You can google by yourself for battery code 934TA001F you'll see only one baterry.

Ok. Sorry. Geegz. I still love you.

kuhar2638 said:
Look. There is only one battery 7,4V 3260mAh 24WH Li-Po in our Iconia. Inside this battery are two Li-Po cells each 3,7V 3260mAh connected in series so capacity remain the same only voltage is doubled. My laptop has 9 cell battery but I'm not saying that I have 9 batteries. You can google by yourself for battery code 934TA001F you'll see only one baterry.
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It's annoying, isn't it? So many people today just don't know the difference between a cell and a battery. Makes you wonder what they hell they teach in science class these days...
For those who get confused... A battery is ONLY a battery when there are multiple cells inside, linked either in series for parallel. If there's just one cell, then it's NOT a battery, it's a cell.

has anyone tried buying this yet and see if it works

FloatingFatMan said:
It's annoying, isn't it? So many people today just don't know the difference between a cell and a battery. Makes you wonder what they hell they teach in science class these days...
For those who get confused... A battery is ONLY a battery when there are multiple cells inside, linked either in series for parallel. If there's just one cell, then it's NOT a battery, it's a cell.
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They didn't teach about batteries in my science classes in highschool, nor in college. That was all in an electronics class I took for my ANSI certification.
Good luck buying one, minimum order is 100. I wonder what price per unit is, I'll email them and check details. I've made orders through them before, it's not too bad.
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Anyone get this I'm thing in doing this as well as new wifi antenna as the stock one really bites a big one!
Just incase someone needed a teardown this is a great one
http://m.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-acer-iconia-tab-a500/6279615?seq=13#photo-frame
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dincdoes.me said:
Anyone get this I'm thing in doing this as well as new wifi antenna as the stock one really bites a big one!
Just incase someone needed a teardown this is a great one
http://m.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-acer-iconia-tab-a500/6279615?seq=13#photo-frame
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Do you know of of a USA supplier for a wifi antenna, I tried moving the antenna and yeah our antenna blows

Its it the forums somewhere .. sorry I can't help if I see it again ill post.
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This seller is fack ,the site admin removed the page.
However take care from Chines batteries most of them had no protection for the charging citrict & will keep charging till blow,for any one have a tab. Better option just had one external battery.
Look online about scam in china for phones
Have anice day
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How to get a full battery charge and improved life

For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

What do you basr yourself on for this??
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gemini002 said:
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
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i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days

CheesyNutz said:
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
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Actually it's not b.s I noticed that around 80% my phone would drop down quickly to 70% and 30% would drop 3% instead of 1 so I did this method knowing that my battery was not fully charged.since I have done this no more quick drops...instead of saying b.s why not try it first then come to a conclusion smh
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

I can vouch for this ...I am only trying to help those who gave bad battery drain...we do flash a lot on xda sometimes **** happens
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

Instead of clowing u guys should try it..listen phone says fully charged for some but in reality it is not it will rapidly drop for example 90% but drops to 79% rapidly or drops 3% for no reason while screen is on is due to battery not fully calibrated/charged ..This happens from flashing roms sometimes this happens if you have battery issues try this method ..
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

I used this method a couple of years ago on my DHD. It made a huge difference! i forgot all about this. I'll do it again later.

Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.

Yeah, I do this on my galaxy note and sometinmes on my new one.
When 100,% through normal charging turn phone off and begin charge again. It will charge just that bit further.
One thing the note does better is thaat when off and charging you get a battery indicator on screen, not so with the one.

WhatsAUsername said:
I'm pretty sure the only way to get a full battery charge is to hold the phone upside down in your right hand, put your left hand on the back, and spin in 3 circles, counter clockwise. You must then quickly plug the charger (within 1 second), and spin the phone around the cable 3 times, in a clockwise direction this time. Only then can you ever hope to have a fully charged battery.
I can vouch for this. :good:
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Man that's total bull...... only 2 circles required
To be real for a minute if I may..... if you monitor the current draw by the phone when charging you will see that when the green led lights the phone is still pulling 60-70mA from the charger so it's still charging and can take a while longer for that draw to fall to 0mA. At this point it's fully charged.
Charging it as the OP suggests does actually allow this extra top up.

I actually think this does help with proper calibration a bit. Not sure why people are acting like children here.
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The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.

NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?

NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
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I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
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gemini002 said:
I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
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actually i'm totally cool with doing this procedure every once in a while as a way to just what it says, get a few extra minutes of battery life. hell, if very precise runtime estimates are important to you and this helps calibrate that, great. i'm all for that too. i actually *have* tried something like this and my phone didnt die and i'm sure i got a little extra run time that day.
i just wouldn't do it *every* day.
one of the findings in another thread around here (something about battery "health") was the battery ages quicker at higher voltages such as those used towards the end of the charging cycle. if you are willing to constrain yourself to charging the phone to *less* than 80% capacity (ie the opposite of what this thread is about) you will double the useful life of the actual LiOn (or LiPolymer or whatever) material in the phone.
that is all. not trying to discourage anyone from *ever* doing this procedure, just explaining why i actually strive to do the opposite most of the time.
carry on.

Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.

veritasxe said:
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
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That's only because fast boot is most probably enabled...

Kahbrohn said:
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
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Ahhhh vindication ...
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

As fun as it is to mock, this most likely does work. HTC seem to be pretty bad at making battery algorithms, never found myself having to do this on the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. But my battery drops to 85 darn fast now and I'm pretty sure this will help. I remember this was helpful on the desire and desire HD too.
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A lot of people say this is merely a placebo effect, but I agree that it works very well for me with my device.
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How to change your battery capacity

(Must be rooted)
Use Root Explorer or Equivalent.
(Can adb or command pull/ push with line if your know how inside twrp or on pc)
DIRECTORY: /etc/floating_feature.xml
Open it and Scroll or search until you see the capacity String value ...
Change it to the MAH of your desired battery.
Disclaimer: Any edits being made to batteries, charge speeds, % values, etc , can cause fires,
Do these at your own risk.

What is the purpose of this?
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Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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I agree
Rapier said:
Theoretically, to make use of a larger capacity battery or else it'll show the same stock capacity regardless of it's real capacity.
Now I don't know how it is For S7/Edge or Samsung devices but I previously owned several HTC devices. The last I had was One S and it could accomodate the battery from One XL (same size but bigger capacity). Many have tried and replaced it but even the new capacity was shown correctly, phone wasn't using it at full. After researches it came out that, for effectively using a bigger capacity battery it was needed a new kernel compiled to make use of the new battery capacity.
My point is that, you might need that as well here and I really doubt that anyone can compile from source a kernel for Exynos that can contain such changes as I know that sources are proprietary not open. You might fit a bigger capacity battery but it could be that you won't benefit from it's increased size
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There are reference files in the kernel ...
They reference battery capacity...
They are based off of a capacity % value
Basically an of/if command ... so in theory...
(Update: the theory was correct)
And a framework.res edit did suffice.
The file inside of framework-res res/xml/power_profile.xml
referenced a 3600mah battery ...
And the purpose of this is of course...
an aftermarket , fully synced , and properly programmed battery @ larger capacity 4200mah
To track all stats natively in any android rom

I use my device pretty heavy with it....
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
battery life report...

Yamaha169 said:
I use my device pretty heavy with this 4200 mah...
Background youtube, pandora, games, etc...
Stock S7 edge kernel/boot.img , modified build.prop (TeKHd Rom)
Also calibrated battery after changing the capacity values
But heres a battery life report...
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omg how the hell did you manage to change for a bigger battery? can you explain? how and which one you bought? any links?

Vivacity said:
how and which one you bought?
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http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-Capacity-Gold-Replacement-Battery-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S7-Edge-NEW-/322221470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o

Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?

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anaya1213 said:
But can you really trust a 4200mah for 15 dollars?
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This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?

Yamaha169 said:
This is my second time purchasing the same aftermarket battery... first time I installed it into a G928A (s6 edge plus)
Now ive installed it in this device... ive gone several months without seeing charge/discharge loss...
But heres the next question... say... you go through 2 batteries a year... 15$ each....
Would that not be worth the extra phone on time anyways?
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Fair enough, but how do you really know it's 4200mah instead of the regular 3600mah?

After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...

Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed

Eezay said:
After the Note 7 fiasco, people tend to be more careful about aftermarket batteries.
My question regarding this modification ist: Is the phone still waterproof after opening the case?
i guess no...
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Any battery lithium... copper core... can overheat and cause what happened to the 7 line...
And this device claims to be water "resistant" ... but people were testing new units and ruining cameras... so...
I went with a ghostek atomic 2.0 case ...

Agreed... no matter how good you cut the adhesive
ingram10 said:
I would guess no also, as the glue sealing everything together is disturbed
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They do make the adheasive with backglass replacement... but im content with my device ...
Longer batter... no overheating issues (2nd phone using them)
After doing the edits and the battery swap with the battery sync... big gains..
I Would Do this Experiment Again

Update...
Batterylife update...

Yamaha169 said:
The guide to do so is explain in the images/ guide earlier in these pages...
The link to buy a battery like mine is
http://m.ebay.com/itm/4200mAh-High-...470195?hash=item4b05e571f3:g:jxsAAOSw9NdXqR3o
You will also need tools to do so... (watch youtube for a guide on the hardware change)
Once you have your battery installed... you need to be rooted to make the edits... there are two references you need to change (in images i posted)
After the edits... run your battery 99% dead... do a calibration (apk on app store can do this)
Then let it die.. charge it to 100% while the device is off
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Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking the written numbers on it

twinko said:
Did you even found bigger aftermarket batteries? And did you ever tried to test the battery and his capacity before implementing them? I often have the feeling they are faking their values.
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you can break out ohms law and calculate power
( find something that runs off the same voltage , and run the tests yourself for discharge rate @ hours )

Yamaha169 said:
Well, to me... thats arguing a moot point...
Thats like asking me how i know im getting a gallon of gas at the pump.
But... the evidence is in the calculation of the user ... because there are FAR too many variables ...
There are applications that track power loss by MAH (mili-amp hour) if you use over the stock MAH rating... it would have a larger storage capacity.
Or you can break out ohms law and calculate power , disect this battery and beat your head against a post ..
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im sorry my english isn't that good but i think the capacity of this battery is not related to the user nor there are many variables.
Probably i didnt used the right words but what i was asking for is for example:
Connect the battery to a constant current load and measure the time it takes to discharge the battery to a certain voltage.
Capacity in Ah = Current in Amperes * Time in hours​
that would give a good overview of the real capacity without using a fishy app or harassing a post

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Yamaha169 said:
If it comes down to having to buy another one... then yea.. ill run that test ..
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sounds great and lets see how long your battery needs to be replaced. really interested to do the same.

Nexus 6 Hard-Mods

So anyone else thinking what im thinking HARD MODS baby. im a anti-government privacy pirate android junkie so naturally i take the camera modules out and im working on the GPS modules but i hav an idea to hav 2 batterys present in the phone now ive alrdy figured out how to mak the room but i need help wit the proper wiring set up. note in order to mak room the wireless copper charging coil will need to b removed "MAYBE" and the originally backin will need a cut out to accommodate the second battery as well as the internal frame<---thats 4 sure then simply apply a slickwrap to cover up
ADDed info: my main concern is the voltage from 2 batterys i know enough that doubling the voltage is bad [rlly bad lol, kill main board etc kinda bad] but doubling the battery capacity from 3220mah to 6440mah isnt CONCERN FIXED ONLY A PROBLEM IF CONNECTED IN SERIES NOT WEN IN PARALLEL ALSO VOLTAGE ON BOTH BATTERIES NEEDS TO B DAM NEAR THE SAME DEAD NUTS THE SAME
Dual battery mods completed safely and successfully on:
nexus 4 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4200mah-nexus-4-internal-battery-t2239829
samsung s3 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/accessories/samsung-4200mah-battery-mod-t1800177
Next issue is a minor soft mod which we'll need insight on the software file on the device the lists the 3220mah will need to b changed these/thise file could b used to calculate the correct battery percent to b shown in status bar or battery stat page in settings IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS LETS DO IT 169% BABY
so a OEM battery is thin and cheap enough that i mite add 2 batteries instead, 3 in total

elite-NSX said:
So anyone else thinking what im thinking HARD MODS baby. im a anti-government privacy pirate android junkie so naturally i take the camera modules out and im working on the GPS modules but i hav an idea to hav 2 batterys present in the phone now ive alrdy figured out how to mak the room but i need help wit the proper wiring set up. note in order to mak room the wireless copper charging coil will need to b removed "MAYBE" and the originally backin will need a cut out to accommodate the second battery as well as the internal frame<---thats 4 sure then simply apply a slickwrap to cover up
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
That being said... an extra battery would be cool

ozzmanj1 said:
Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
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agreed but ive done both alrdy to b safe, they could push/sideload wirelessly the files needed to use camera modules my main focus is the dual battery mod any input on the wiring set up unfortunately i dont no much bout batterys to pull this off

as of now with almst perfect conditions i can get round 8hrs SOT but i need more, mmmm battery whore, 8hrs SOT wit 23hrs phone idle, heavy use overclocked games PSP emulater 2.5hrs SOT wit 18hrs phone idle and min. use 3.5hrs SOT 7-9days phone idle not bad but i need better dual better

You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone

ozzmanj1 said:
Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
That being said... an extra battery would be cool
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Not really too much. As all the fuctionality is still there. The only thing missing is the UI. You could still activate it by command line. Couldnt snap a pic or anything but you could activate the camera and then stream it to where ever if there is a data connection.
pr0ndigy said:
You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone
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Not at all. There are some that really do think that the Government is too wrapped up in our lives. There are also companies that require your cell phone to not have a camera.
Too many people these days have no idea about privacy. They have freely given it up. It is good to see someone that looks around at the world he lives in.

Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Atticuspoint6 said:
Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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Lol

Atticuspoint6 said:
Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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As for me. IT is part of the job. I work in many places that requires them to check on you from time to time. Heck the types of places I work even can dictate what type of device you can own and have with you. You also have to understand that there are things you can do to put yourself on thier watch list. It really isnt to hard to do really.
I perfect example is I was helping my son with a presentation on religious history and after downloading the Quran and was questioned about it less then a week later

zelendel said:
As for me. IT is part of the job. I work in many places that requires them to check on you from time to time. Heck the types of places I work even can dictate what type of device you can own and have with you. You also have to understand that there are things you can do to put yourself on thier watch list. It really isnt to hard to do really.
I perfect example is I was helping my son with a presentation on religious history and after downloading the Quran and was questioned about it less then a week later
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What else were you searching for, roofing nails(for that pesky leak) and pressure cookers (I have tomatoes to can, OK)?
All kidding aside, the amount of information out there on your average cell user is insane. Even before smartphones they could obtain a massive amount of information just from metadata.
I totally have respect for OP. Thanks for taking this thing apart, seeing how it ticks and deciding to make it tick different. Kudos on your cajones, sir!
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Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues

jagpoag said:
Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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You really dont think that turning off GPS on a device with the FEMA chip in it does any good do you?
Sometimes it is amazing how much people really dont know goes on in the world.

zelendel said:
You really dont think that turning off GPS on a device with the FEMA chip in it does any good do you?
Sometimes it is amazing how much people really dont know goes on in the world.
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Lulwut, FEMA chip?
Just glad we're not down that far on the 1984 road as you guys are over there (just yet). But FEMA chip? Any serious sources for that?
And questioning because of Quran searches? That PATRIOT act sure messed up something about your democracy if that is even remotely true.

nazfalas said:
Lulwut, FEMA chip?
Just glad we're not down that far on the 1984 road as you guys are over there (just yet). But FEMA chip? Any serious sources for that?
And questioning because of Quran searches? That PATRIOT act sure messed up something about your democracy if that is even remotely true.
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You have no idea. That act was the dumbest thing people did and all because of the heat of the moment. They didnt read it and then got mad about it when they saw they gave the gov the right to monitor them.
You have not been around for long huh? The FEMA chip has been in devices for years. Search around. There are plenty of talks about it. Not sure if the FCC blueprints are still on the site but worth a look. There was a huge deal about it as it showed at one time to be connected to the mic and GPS moduals. Mind you this only applies to the US. This is part of the reason why our devs here prefer to get the EU models of devices.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestne...ecial-chip-in-cell-phones-to-send-out-alerts/

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lov n the feed back guys ok mayb i shouldnt hav included the anti-government stuff tho in the header we r gettin side tracked jus listed that 4 examples of hard mods i use now we need to conclude the project on hand dual battery somone has to no sombody who nos somthin bout batterys electrical components voltage regulators etc.
out source to friends and family
JUS IMAGINE UR F**KING AWESOME BELOVED SEXY NEXUS 6 WIT A 6440mah BATTERY GIV N HER JUICE
OK another side project while we wait for feedbac on dual battery
man name ur cars boats d**ks lol motorbikes w/e rite so if u had to pic a nick name 4 ur nexus 6 what would it b. b sides shamu [lol stupid name] or the use of "nexus"

pr0ndigy said:
You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone
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actually nope jus dont thinks its rite that ppl can c where i am and what im doin simply as that

For the batteries, connect them in parallel. + to +, - to -. I've done it on other phones and it works fine. I'm not sure how it would react with quickcharge, but I think it would be fine. I've actually been considering doing it on this phone as my battery is starting to show it's age. If I do, I will 3D print a frame and soft outer case much like how the ZeroLemon battery kit for the Note 3 was done.
Since you seem unsure about parallel vs series wiring, please read up on proper handling for lipo cells. I would not want to see anyone make their own Note 7 firebomb.
If you put the charging coil behind a battery, it won't work. Might as well save space and remove it. You might be able to relocate it to the outside battery.
If you are really concerned about GPS and camera, you should disconnect them or otherwise damage them. Can't do much about the mic though. If the GPS is marked, you can probably find a datasheet for it, then just cut the trace for power. Practice on an old PCB if you haven't done this before, you can cause serious damage to the board if you do it wrong. If a state level actor or good hacker is involved, they can still get rough location via cell towers, wifi IDs, and Stingrays. If you are really concerned, you should probably not carry a phone at all, or keep a metalized pouch with you to put it in (faraday cage).
After Snowden, and having worked in some environments, I get where people are coming from with it. In some cases it's not that people are doing anything wrong, they just want to have more control over their privacy. Not everyone wants their lives all over the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that.

jagpoag said:
Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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mental help hahahaha im unfixable

ttabbal said:
For the batteries, connect them in parallel. + to +, - to -. I've done it on other phones and it works fine. I'm not sure how it would react with quickcharge, but I think it would be fine. I've actually been considering doing it on this phone as my battery is starting to show it's age. If I do, I will 3D print a frame and soft outer case much like how the ZeroLemon battery kit for the Note 3 was done.
Since you seem unsure about parallel vs series wiring, please read up on proper handling for lipo cells. I would not want to see anyone make their own Note 7 firebomb.
If you put the charging coil behind a battery, it won't work. Might as well save space and remove it. You might be able to relocate it to the outside battery.
If you are really concerned about GPS and camera, you should disconnect them or otherwise damage them. Can't do much about the mic though. If the GPS is marked, you can probably find a datasheet for it, then just cut the trace for power. Practice on an old PCB if you haven't done this before, you can cause serious damage to the board if you do it wrong. If a state level actor or good hacker is involved, they can still get rough location via cell towers, wifi IDs, and Stingrays. If you are really concerned, you should probably not carry a phone at all, or keep a metalized pouch with you to put it in (faraday cage).
After Snowden, and having worked in some environments, I get where people are coming from with it. In some cases it's not that people are doing anything wrong, they just want to have more control over their privacy. Not everyone wants their lives all over the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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"parallel" self explanatory
my question is where to put the bridge to hav both batteries usable do i bridge the batteries together which i think would create a charging loop [charging battery 1 would then charge battery 2 until both full] then wen disconnected the phone would still show charging state
[i think] until battery 2 was depleted
i could b wrong now what bout the voltage comin from 2 batteries the battery outputs 3.7v give or tak now doubling that 7.4v should fry the voltage regulators if any present no?

elite-NSX said:
"parallel" self explanatory
my question is where to put the bridge to hav both batteries usable do i bridge the batteries together which i think would create a charging loop [charging battery 1 would then charge battery 2 until both full] then wen disconnected the phone would still show charging state
[i think] until battery 2 was depleted
i could b wrong now what bout the voltage comin from 2 batteries the battery outputs 3.7v give or tak now doubling that 7.4v should fry the voltage regulators if any present no?
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That's not how it works. Batteries in parallel charge and discharge together. The voltage does not change. Batteries in series adds the voltages together. In parallel the voltage is the same but the current and capacity go up.
To the phone, batteries in parallel look like one battery. They do self-regulate/charge against each other, but the phone can't see that. For safety reasons, you need to make sure the voltage of the two batteries is similar, within about 0.1 volts, before connecting them. If you connected a fully charged battery to an empty one, the worst case, the full battery would dump power into the empty one trying to fill it to the same voltage. This would likely destroy the empty battery as it would not be able to handle a charge rate that high. It might also damage the full one, as cell phone batteries are not designed for high current discharge.

Is ZTE lying about Axon's 7 battery capacity?

I have installed many apps to find out the capacity of the battery all say 3100mAh. I installed and updated several versions of the O.S. from Marshmallow to Nougat thinking that maybe the OS were not showing the accurate battery size. But nothing...
As I've seen some videos tearing the phone apart and shows that indeed it has a 3100mAh only INSTEAD OF THE 3250mAh that ZTE claims it to have.
I am using the A2017G version bought from Amazon Germany. And it bugs and find it irritating that ZTE might be lying to us Axon users. Perhaps I'm wrong but.... I had to check with them.
After several emails and communication with ZTE they sent me this reply, which still DOESN'T ANSWER MY CONCERNS and their reply MAKES NO SENSE to me and I am an electronic engineer. I would like to hear from anyone who might have the same issue and/or just want to add some info. Thanks guys. Here's the reply from ZTE:
"Dear Valued ZTE Customer,
Thanks for contacting ZTE.
We are really sorry for the delay in response.
This email is with regards to the issue you had forwarded us about the wrong capacity battery that you have received.
We would like to inform you that, perhaps our concerned team has already informed you about the results they found from the test they performed.
However incase they haven't then, this is what they had to say about the battery issue.
The battery has two nominal values, one is the nominal value and the typical value. The A7 battery has a nominal value of 3250 mHA and a typical value of 3140 mHa.
As you mentioned by applying the check to the battery is 3100mhA, the possible reason:
1. Battery inspection application of the inspection program related to the application of detection methods affect the detection accuracy, the most accurate battery test is through a professional battery capacity test equipment to check, A7 battery capacity. The amount is measured by the battery capacity test equipment capacity, capacity is no problem.
2, The battery capacity itself will increase with the use of time, the battery capacity will drop, according to the standard battery cycle 500 times, the battery capacity reduced to 80% of the original qualified.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us."

Monk09 said:
I have installed many apps to find out the capacity of the battery all say 3100mAh. I installed and updated several versions of the O.S. from Marshmallow to Nougat thinking that maybe the OS were not showing the accurate battery size. But nothing...
As I've seen some videos tearing the phone apart and shows that indeed it has a 3100mAh only INSTEAD OF THE 3250mAh that ZTE claims it to have.
I am using the A2017G version bought from Amazon Germany. And it bugs and find it irritating that ZTE might be lying to us Axon users. Perhaps I'm wrong but.... I had to check with them.
After several emails and communication with ZTE they sent me this reply, which still DOESN'T ANSWER MY CONCERNS and their reply MAKES NO SENSE to me and I am an electronic engineer. I would like to hear from anyone who might have the same issue and/or just want to add some info. Thanks guys. Here's the reply from ZTE:
"Dear Valued ZTE Customer,
Thanks for contacting ZTE.
We are really sorry for the delay in response.
This email is with regards to the issue you had forwarded us about the wrong capacity battery that you have received.
We would like to inform you that, perhaps our concerned team has already informed you about the results they found from the test they performed.
However incase they haven't then, this is what they had to say about the battery issue.
The battery has two nominal values, one is the nominal value and the typical value. The A7 battery has a nominal value of 3250 mHA and a typical value of 3140 mHa.
As you mentioned by applying the check to the battery is 3100mhA, the possible reason:
1. Battery inspection application of the inspection program related to the application of detection methods affect the detection accuracy, the most accurate battery test is through a professional battery capacity test equipment to check, A7 battery capacity. The amount is measured by the battery capacity test equipment capacity, capacity is no problem.
2, The battery capacity itself will increase with the use of time, the battery capacity will drop, according to the standard battery cycle 500 times, the battery capacity reduced to 80% of the original qualified.
Should you require any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us."
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Oh my dear God you get 150 mAh less! What is this madness?
Okay jokes aside, the battery capacity is actually 3140 mAh. I've seen this number before buying the phone, on reviews and one of the official pages, and when I bricked it, I took it apart and the battery says 3140.
Now a couple of things. assuming that the battery is actually 3140, they are saying that the battery has 110 mAh more. They are stating that the battery is 3.5% bigger than it is in reality. Is it worth spending all that time and effort writing the OP, asking ZTE for explanations, even watching disassembly videos, because the battery is 3.5% smaller?
And what do you plan to do, turn it back because you'll have 12.6 minutes less SOT?

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Yes, your jokes are hilarious indeed. I'm talking about the principles here man. They're claiming something it isn't true. False advertising.
When you go to a McDonald's and they give you a half empty box of fries (which sometimes happens) do you just take it? At then end of the day, you, me and the buyers in general pay for the price that a company asks for. I don't know about you but when I buy something I expect it to be in good condition and fit for purpose. Or at least with the same specs as they advertise...
Whether it has 3.5% less capacity or not - that is NOT THE POINT. Point is they are advertising it incorrectly. And I HAVE TIME TO WRITE AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE TO THEM.
Yes, usually what I would do is return it, I have no problem returning stuff if they don't meet my expectations and Amazon is usually good regarding refunds. But I would not return it in this case, because as you correctly said, 110mAh less won't make a huge difference. But again, it's the principles man.
One other thing is if you read ZTE's reply, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It all sounds a bunch of excuses to me. Oh! Sorry, unlike me, you probably won't have time to read it.

Monk09 said:
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Yes, your jokes are hilarious indeed. I'm talking about the principles here man. They're claiming something it isn't true. False advertising.
When you go to a McDonald's and they give you a half empty box of fries (which sometimes happens) do you just take it? At then end of the day, you, me and the buyers in general pay for the price that a company asks for. I don't know about you but when I buy something I expect it to be in good condition and fit for purpose. Or at least with the same specs as they advertise...
Whether it has 3.5% less capacity or not - that is NOT THE POINT. Point is they are advertising it incorrectly. And I HAVE TIME TO WRITE AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE TO THEM.
Yes, usually what I would do is return it, I have no problem returning stuff if they don't meet my expectations and Amazon is usually good regarding refunds. But I would not return it in this case, because as you correctly said, 110mAh less won't make a huge difference. But again, it's the principles man.
One other thing is if you read ZTE's reply, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It all sounds a bunch of excuses to me. Oh! Sorry, unlike me, you probably won't have time to read it.
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Hell they're not giving you half the capacity advertised - just 3.5% less, that's my point. You wouldn't bother if they gave you 3.5% less fries would you. i guess that this would be relevant if they actually shipped with 3000 mAh. False advertisement would be more like what has been going down with the OnePlus 3 and 5. They make their phones go full throttle to get the best results on benchmark apps, and they appear at the top of the list because most new phones have the same 835 anyways. Or with the Huawei P10s where they claimed UFS 2.1 and changed that on the last week, and you could even get eMMC storage

Monk09 said:
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Yes, your jokes are hilarious indeed. I'm talking about the principles here man. They're claiming something it isn't true. False advertising.
When you go to a McDonald's and they give you a half empty box of fries (which sometimes happens) do you just take it? At then end of the day, you, me and the buyers in general pay for the price that a company asks for. I don't know about you but when I buy something I expect it to be in good condition and fit for purpose. Or at least with the same specs as they advertise...
Whether it has 3.5% less capacity or not - that is NOT THE POINT. Point is they are advertising it incorrectly. And I HAVE TIME TO WRITE AND ADDRESS THE ISSUE TO THEM.
Yes, usually what I would do is return it, I have no problem returning stuff if they don't meet my expectations and Amazon is usually good regarding refunds. But I would not return it in this case, because as you correctly said, 110mAh less won't make a huge difference. But again, it's the principles man.
One other thing is if you read ZTE's reply, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It all sounds a bunch of excuses to me. Oh! Sorry, unlike me, you probably won't have time to read it.
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Both capacities are correct. If you fill it up with, say, QC3 or a 2A charger, it will go closer to the 3140 mark, but if you charge it with a 1A charger, it will go closer to the 3250 mark. All modern lithium-ion batteries do this. Using you analogy, it would be like filling the fry container (? whatever it's called) with the fry container filler (? I know this is wrong) really fast and getting, say, 100 fries, versus taking 10 seconds and getting 104.

I feel like as this device gets older, the expectations in general get unrealistically higher and higher... Especially for a device that's less than $300 with a 2K super amoled display and periodic fw updates... ?

awsomjgp said:
Using you analogy, it would be like filling the fry container (? whatever it's called) with the fry container filler (? I know this is wrong) really fast and getting, say, 100 fries, versus taking 10 seconds and getting 104.
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Whoa that was a deep analogy

Batteries typically have two capacities listed: a minimum (min) and a typical (typ). All companies tend to advertise the typical capacity, even if the battery you have is closer to the minimum.
For example, the LG G3 is advertised everywhere as having a 3000mAh battery (the typ size), while the battery itself has a min of 2940mAh printed on it.
Another example is the Moto G4 Play, which has a typ size of 2800mAh (which is what gets advertised), but has a 2685mAh min printed on the battery itself.
ZTE seems to have only listed the minimum capacity on the battery itself, not the typical capacity.