I'm truly upset about this, because I think this phone is almost marvellous. But in the two weeks I've had it a few horrible problems have emerged, and I can't find solutions.
If anyone can help (REALLY help), I'd be very grateful.
So. Here I go:
1) The antennae (or whatever). I'm sitting here, in my study, which is in my garden, about 60 feet from the house. In the house (right on the kitchen window) I have a wi-fi AP, to boost the signal. In my study I have : a PS3; a desktop PC; a (Samsung) netbook; an iPhone 3gs; an HTC TP2, and the SGS2. Every single device has a good-to-excellent connection. Except the SGS2. Which says "poor", except that most of the time it can't get a signal at all - so that's not even as good as "poor";
2) I took a friend to hospital today. There were three of us in the waiting room. The SGS2 had no (phone) reception. The others did;
3) On the way to the hospital I needed to use Google Nav. I plugged the SGS2 into my car charger. It didn't charge. I've since tried three different chargers (and no, they weren't from Poundland). Same thing. The SGS2 just won't charge in my car if it needs plenty of juice. I've been trawling the webs and this seems to be a common issue - but nobody has a definite answer. I was about to spring for an official Sammy charger, but nobody seems to know for sure if it'll do the trick.
4) The sound isn't great, either in fidelity (and I'm using Shure SE530s, just so you know I care about good sound) or volume. It's tolerable, but only that. No comparison to my little Sansa clip, or even (I hate to say) the 3GS;
5) (though not as much as some, it would seem) the battery life is a bit meh. And I'm not a heavy user.
I read many people complaining about silly little things. A lot of them are down to software or simple ignorance. But a super-smartphone that has poor connectivity and can't be used as a satnav (whilst simultaneously charging). Well, I'm sorry, but...
As I said at the top, I'm genuinely miserable about this. I really, really thought that this was the Smartphone to Rule Them All.
And, again, if anyone can offer me hope that things will get better, please do. Sadly, I think I'll be going back to separate gadgets to fulfill my needs. A phone that works as a phone (and maybe a diary); a satnav that charges in the car; a music player that sounds good. Etc, etc.
ive got a crappy 8-in-1 car charger works fine.
I have none of the problems you said in your post so maybe you just got a **** phone, maybe return it for another.
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ive got a crappy 8-in-1 car charger works fine.
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Do you mean it works fine when you're also using satnav? Because there seem to be many, many people whose SGS2 won't charge when running satnav.
That's what I was thinking maybe one problem is tolerable but all those things you mentioned I would've been took that boy back for a swap out. Unless you brought it online.
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I have none of the problems you said in your post so maybe you just got a **** phone, maybe return it for another.
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Yes, maybe I have a "**** phone". Then again, lots of people seem to be having similar issues. Do you think there was a bad batch? Can you charge the phone in-car whilst using satnav? Is your wifi strength as good as your other devices?
I think I may call Vodafone now and see if a replacement helps. That's if they'll still swap it out.
If you arent happy with the phone, return it/exchange it.
simple as.
As for advice, read the threads.
I also have none of the problems you are suffering. My wifi works as well as any other device I have had. Phone signal is better on the same network a my htc desire. Sound quality is better than my desire. Battery life is so far pretty good and will get better with use and even better once 2.3.4 comes out very soon.
As for your charging issues while using nav this is a common thing with cheap chargers, you might not have got it from poundland but its just not supplying enough juice. Had exactly the same problem when I first got my desire over a year ago, ended up modifying my car charger by soldering the data wires together to force it to max out its current output. Use that same charger for my sg2.
The only problem ive had is the car charger one which i didnt realise untill yesterday. All your other problems dont exist on my phone so mabey exchange it
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Do you mean it works fine when you're also using satnav? Because there seem to be many, many people whose SGS2 won't charge when running satnav.
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just been out to the car and can confirm, it charges fine with google navigation running - seems to make no difference with mine navigation or not.
keep soldiering on dont give up on yer sgs2 yet!
With reference to the car charger problem while using satnav look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670702&highlight=car+charger&page=2
Thats the thread from the HTC desire doing the exact same thing. If your charger is 1000ma you should be able to mod it or a cable so that it will happily charge your sg2, if not make sure the next one you buy can supply enough current.
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1) The antennae (or whatever)
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The phone seems to have love/hate relationships with different routers. In the way I use it, it works as well as a G2 and G2X connecting in the same locations. I have a beast of a router and what I tend to connect to (airports, hotels, airplanes) have better than average equipment. People have had some luck by replacing their router. If it's software, the imminent 2.3.4. update may help.
The SGS2 had no (phone) reception. The others did
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There have been various postings on this. People with issues popped another carriers SIM in the phone and in a lot of cases the problem went away. Try replacing your SIM. If the phone's just not good reception wise in the areas you travel or on the network you use you may have to return it.
3) The SGS2 just won't charge in my car if it needs plenty of juice.
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I've been using the LG charger from my G2X and it keeps the phone battery-positive using Nav and Bluetooth audio streaming. There's a thread dedicated to this somewhere, do a search.
The sound isn't great I'm using Shure SE530s
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I have the same headphones and am quite pleased with the output. I also stream Bluetooth in my car and the phone easily outperforms the G2 and G2X. There's a long thread discussing audio and a couple of folks using Shure's were getting different results. It might be a hardware issue with your particular phone. But, judging audio is subjective so what's good for me may not be for you.
5) (though not as much as some, it would seem) the battery life is a bit meh. And I'm not a heavy user.
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There's an issue with the suspend process in 2.3.3. that drains the battery at idle. The imminent 2.3.4. update should correct this.
I also noted poor wifi signal. Changed my router to a better one and it fixed the issue, however I still have problems in my travels ( hotels, bars, airports ).
Regrading the navigation, I did a total of 2500km ( 2 long trips of 900 km each + other small and medium trips ) with the phone being in nav mode. I had the battery issue you described due to overheating, but as soon as I protected the phone from direct sunlight ( a small piece of paper over it ) or kept a small flow of air on it ( placed it near the AC vent and redirected the flow twoards it ) the issue got resolved. Using a 500mA car USB charger my phone stays cool at about 36 degrees C and the battery gets +1% every few mins ( navigation + wifi tethering on with Kies over wifi activated ). In regards to the software, I mainly use iGo or Copilot.
So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems.
rojdag said:
just been out to the car and can confirm, it charges fine with google navigation running - seems to make no difference with mine navigation or not.
keep soldiering on dont give up on yer sgs2 yet!
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Thanks for that, mate. Just to say: my phone "says" it's charging in the car; but when I do a drive with the satnav, then unplug the phone, it hasn't actually been charging. Again, I'm not the only one with this problem (or feature).
@azra2k
"So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems."
Thanks for those suggestions. Really, though: why should that be necessary? It's all a bit Heath-Robinson, is it not? I don't have to put pieces of paper over other satnav devices, or lodge them in the a/c vents.
I may buy the official Samsung charger but there are people elsewhere who've had no luck with that.
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Thanks for that, mate. Just to say: my phone "says" it's charging in the car; but when I do a drive with the satnav, then unplug the phone, it hasn't actually been charging. Again, I'm not the only one with this problem (or feature).
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Sat nav will max out the phones power draw, reducing charging to a trickle, it's just a case of taking out almost as much as you are putting in.
I find from using wifi analyser on a few devices what Samsung call two bars in signal strength, most other devices call 3.
Not sure why that is.
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@azra2k
"So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems."
Thanks for those suggestions. Really, though: why should that be necessary? It's all a bit Heath-Robinson, is it not? I don't have to put pieces of paper over other satnav devices, or lodge them in the a/c vents.
I may buy the official Samsung charger but there are people elsewhere who've had no luck with that.
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Well, I'm sorry, but I find it completely normal to say that some charger we got off eBay, third-party probably that's not even a brand name, isn't capable of feeding our next gen device that has not only a dual core processor, the most ram on the market on any phone, a GIANT screen, not enough dissipation space (for heat) to keep it thin as thin as thin. I'm worried about battery life as well, but oh well. It's the price we have to pay! hehe.
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And, again, if anyone can offer me hope that things will get better, please do. Sadly, I think I'll be going back to separate gadgets to fulfill my needs. A phone that works as a phone (and maybe a diary); a satnav that charges in the car; a music player that sounds good. Etc, etc.
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Sorry to hear this...but the problem isn't the "GS2" it's your specific GS2. The vast majority of users have maybe one of your problems, which either fixes it self, or fixed through an update. There are even more, who don't even have any of those problems.
I think that you have a faulty unit and if you are upset, get a replacement, because the GSII is one fine device and capable of doing all you need it to do.
Please read my last post for the correct answer to the satnav power supply problem. It has nothing to do with ventilation and everything to do with the type of charger you are using.
You could buy a 1000ma very expensive charger and it still might not charge your phone when under extreme load. Some chargers will only supply 500ma as that is the max that a usb socket on your motherboard is supposed to supply. Doing the mod I described earlier solves this.
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@azra2k
"So solution: make sure you have a little airflow on your phone and a little space between the back of the phone and the phone holder. Satisfy these 2 conditions and you will eliminate the charging problems."
Thanks for those suggestions. Really, though: why should that be necessary? It's all a bit Heath-Robinson, is it not? I don't have to put pieces of paper over other satnav devices, or lodge them in the a/c vents.
I may buy the official Samsung charger but there are people elsewhere who've had no luck with that.
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I only make sure that the AC is blowing through the defrost holes also... the airflow required is minimum. This applies to all phones and even other dark colored gps devices I owned before... In the summer, the sun heats up the phone and/or gps device a lot. As a test, try leaving the phone in the cradle in the car ( under direct sunlight ) for an hour. The phone can be kept at idle, or even closed. It will heat up a lot... I remember I threw away a compact photo camera cause I forgot it on the dashboard for a day, in the summer (it was pretty much melted and very deformed)...
So a bit of common sense will fix the temperature issues... the charging problems appear due to the temperature issues. If the batter temp is above 50 degrees it will stop charging. When you keep the batter under 50 degrees, a 500mA decent charger will be more than enough to keep the phone running and slowly charge the battery.
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I am going on a flight in two parts with an 8 hour wait in the middle - then onto a train for another four hours which is 5 hours after my flight arrives.
When I am waiting I am intending to access the net, and also use the phone to play films on the flights/train.
I had thought about getting a high capacity battery to use with the standard one, but I guess run times would go beyond their capacities as the total usage runs to over 24 hours even without delays.
I had seen solar chargers on ebay - but although I could probably use it on a train - i doubt if it could be used on a flight - but guess it could be fairly useful for camping etc.
I also saw a "powerpack" that charged USB devices by using 4 standard AA batteries, and thought this would be a better bet, as I am likely to be able to buy them at airports and stations etc so I can keep the phone running.
Any suggestions of the best way to do this - or errors in my idea?
With an 8 hour stopover, I'm sure you can find somewhere in the airport to re-charge without worrying about batteries.
How long are the flights ?
Maybe your flight will have power ports as well? I know some do, although typically not in economy, where I travel, whence one must "jack" into the bio-electrical discharges of our own thought processes to merely heat "dinner".
You can also get those new fangled ipod charging things as well. Charge em up overnight, then use them to recharge the ipod or any other usb/firewire device on the go. Might help. Can't remember where I saw it.
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1) Can you be specific about the airport(s) and train services involved?
2) How much power-related gear are you prepared to carry?
It is an ex soviet asian and eastern european air services and an ex soviet asian train.
It is likely there will be people carrying chickens with them on the asian ones before you start thinking technology!!
Everything needs to fit in a rucksack and hand luggage that gets carried in the rucksack once i come off the planes.
I start in heathrow - so everything should be OK there.
wizardragon said:
I start in heathrow - so everything should be OK there.
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Possibly with JFK the worst premier airport in the world.
Perhaps you should look at renewable energy sources. I haven't heard anything about power from chicken guano but I'm sure someone has a theory ;-)
(sorry tough day watching the football)
here you go wizardragon is this what you are looking for?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/O2-XDA-MINI-S...ryZ48674QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
havent used one on my wizard but my dad uses one on his mitac and gets 2 full charges out of a set of batteries.
have a look on ebay for xda battery extender there are some more.
I use the AA Battery method when I travel to china. On a good set of batteries, I get about 3-4 full charges. But I usually only use it to top off my battery when I am on the bus or train. It's nice and small, and the batteries you can buy anywhere, it's awsome.....
I reviewed Gomadic's road warrior kit on pocketnow.com here. It has a battery extender, which can also be purchased separately for $19.95. It works very well and with their swappable tips (TipExchange) can be used with many mobile devices.[/url]
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It is an ex soviet asian and eastern european air services and an ex soviet asian train.
It is likely there will be people carrying chickens with them on the asian ones before you start thinking technology!!
Everything needs to fit in a rucksack and hand luggage that gets carried in the rucksack once i come off the planes.
I start in heathrow - so everything should be OK there.
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are you coming to Moldova?
Further over - "Chernozhopayalandii" - I always though the station in Kishinev looked pretty modern for one where you need to walk over the rails.
I heard the train no longer runs to Tiraspol now though, or is it all of Transnistria?
I got a 4x AA battery extender on Ebay. It works pretty well and I guess the batteries are available almost anywhere.
Does anyone know if there is a USB extension cable that would match the charger and the phone?
Also I got a 6v rechargeable battery out a burgar alarm I was removing (from a friends house- honest!!!) which is about 7cm x 10cm x 15cm and was rated in double figures Ah. I guess this could be the start of the ultimate travel charger/extender.
Has anyone tried this http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3169 ?
solar charger
The solution here is a solar charger. I got one of a ebay that is strong enough on a sunny day that you can run the device without the battery depleting. It's about as big as a CD case with 2 cd's next to eachother. It has a zigarette lighter jack so you can use your car charger.
The charger worked unbelievably well. It had a small LED that got dimmer as the power was used up, which without there was no way of saying if it was still putting power into the phone.
I never used it to charge the phone as such as the phone was in my belt pouch - but plugged it in when I was using it so the power was kept at full all the time.
The solar charger someone mentioned would not really have been useful due to the low light levels inside the airport and after dark on the train, and I think the airline staff would have been looking a bit worried when someone tried to attach something against a window on a flying plane, but obviously would have been good for something like camping in the middle of nowhere where there were no power supply or shops.
Regarding the airline headset charger - I would guess these would run on a lowish voltage (3v i would guess without checking) so may not give the phone that good a charge.
I got it here...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Battery-Exten...ryZ48674QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
but for anyone not wanting the UK government to receive the tax on it try here...
http://search.stores.ebay.co.uk/ADD...fsooZ1QQfsopZ3QQftsZ2QQsaselZ36214385QQsofpZ0
and if you are not in a rush and are broke they tend to reduce individual models to about £1.50 + p&p every now and again.
Although there are a few threads on the X1 battery, none have addressed the real issue, in my view.
The 3.7v, 1500mAH battery specified and supplied with the X1 is underpowered for the processor (Qualcomm MSM7200A 528Mhz)
The defining symptoms for this are overheating when:
a) using wifi for over 60 minutes whilst on charge
b) using GPS for over 60 minutes whilst on charge
This 60 minute limit is somewhat arbitrary - it may be as low as 30 minutes, but within 60 minutes the overheating will definitely manifest itself. At the very least, this causes the device to behave erratically and if left unchecked may eventually cause the battery to explode.
I've tried 3 completely new batteries now - all carefully charged overnight before turning on the device in accordance with SE instruction manual. All chargers (both wall and car) have Sony Ericsson stamped all over them, as do the batteries.
I've owned these devices previously, none of which showed this problem:
HP HW6515
HP HW6910
Eten X500
HTC P3600i
HTC Polaris (still used as a totally reliable backup)
Useless to say "don't use wifi, use AS". This comment tacitly admits that my comment is accurate - ie. don't use the wifi for more than say 15 minutes, else the battery overheats
Useless to say "don't use the GPS for more than an hour" - again a tacit admission that the battery/charge system is unfit for its purpose. It has no value when I'm field mapping for 8-10 hours at a time.
My best guess is that the battery is underpowered for the system, so that when a large, constant drain on the battery such as using wifi or GPS is executed whilst charging, the balance of power within the battery is erratic. It certainly charges, but at the expense of heating the battery to unacceptable levels.
It's of interest to note that the original wall charger supplied in the box has a stamped output of 700mAH at 5V, while an SE-stamped spare wall charger I purchased has an output of 300mAH at 5V. It takes longer for the overheating to show on the lower charge rate than the higher, but eventually it does show.
Of course, some will reply "My device doesn't do that, your phone must be faulty" ... to which I ask: "What happens when you leave the device on wall or car charging and use wifi or GPS for an hour or two ?" This is a very specific question and requires a very specific and accurate answer ... not an evasive piece of generalised rhubarb.
I'm looking at two ways to resolve this serious issue, because the X1 as currently constituted is unfit for its purpose:
1) eBaying this and replacing it with an Acer DX900/X960/F900 as my experience with Eten devices have been positive (again, slagging these devices does not address the battery issue with the X1)
2) waiting in the hope that within 6 months or so, MugenBatteries or some other reliable manufacturer will produce a more powerful replacement battery that will tend to overcome the problem
I welcome constructive comments, especially those that read the post before replying. The X1 has some good points of course (eg. abundant Storage/RAM, high WVGA resolution), but the battery issue is a serious, fundamental flaw that makes the device unfit to rely on when in the field.
Perhaps it's your X1 itself? I myself and a couple of friends have X1i's and X1a's and we do not have such a problem.
not necessarily a design fault
saying that its a design fault that your battery warms up is a bit of a sweeping statement. WiFi is notoriously power hungry and just because that device warms up a bit doesn't necessarily mean its going to get worse and worse and explode. if you work on that principle then may be none of us should use wireless routers as they often get pretty warm too - I know mine does!
Also, even if some devices manage to give the impression of being cool, it doesn't necessarily mean they are. they might just have double walling around the batt area, etc.
If you are worried though, go ahead and sell your phone - its only you that looses out!
I've also noticed that it gets remarkably hot when charging but that's when charging from the USB port on my laptop. Haven't really considered how hot it gets when charging from the mains or in my car. Will test it out on a long journey in my car and get back to you.
My X1 works very well and has no battary problem. The durability of the battery is excellent!
If you say excellent, whats been your experience? I have to recharge my phone every second night, at the very least.
No problems here
Can't say I've had any issue with hot batteries on my black X1, my mate who has a silver X1 often mentions that his battery gets very hot.
This is exactly the type of issue that arouses the partisans ...
but the only sensible reply so far was Ruudford, who states he will test his X1 on a long car trip.
That's sensible - I've tried on an 10 hour field mapping trip and in the end had to use the Polaris to maintain mapping data integrity
The exact question is: "What happens when you use wifi or GPS for an extended time (>1 hour at least) while the device is on charge ?"
I've given my results - from three (3) new batteries. These results show that the device is underpowered.
No other answer apart from Ruudford so far has actually addressed this exact issue I've pointed out.
Yes, i completely agree that the phone becomes a bit HOT when using WiFi/GPS while on charger, and really this scared me for a while.
it even get's hotter when using WiFi/GPS and charging through USB Port of a PC!
this is surly serious issue, regardless of the heat that might explode the battery (i think it's still far from that level) but this really might cause some problems internally!
we all know that using hTourch on high beam has melted the LED Base of some devices and dammaged the vibrator (not pointing to hTourch or something, with respect to the great application and the author) but heat is a really scary issue that Might (and i say MIGHT) dammage the X1 on the long run.
how to solve this?
i have no clue, maybe some electonics engineers here will give some explaination of what's going on. after all, i'm just a software developer after all :S
i agree that this must be addressed and attended by SE (replacing batteries/chargers/anything else) or "could it be a software problem?" like the software is utilizing the CPU much to decrypt the WiFi signal? or maybe wasting the CPU cycles?
possible! but not as a hardware hunger for power.
btw,
have you tried to upgrade to R2A version of the ROM?
after all i noticed that in the R2A my battery lasts longer, mybe fixed some high current consumption bugs! the heat is still there but i think (not sure) it's less that before.
if i dont open the keyboard..it relly gets hot on wifi...so much so that i can smell the heat
so what would the ideal battery specs be?
my phone used to get hot but since the rom update i havent noticed it at all.
when your reception is low, your phone get hot easily when surfing internet.. More battery consumption for grab the line.
I have also noted my X1i overheat whilst charging and the GPS/WiFi is on use but considering the power usage by those two functions I assume it is the norm, especially with the X1i having a metal casing which allows the heat to flow more freely from the inside to the outside casing.
Coming back to the first post on here...if you wanted only people who have the same opinion with you to reply you could have at least made it a plain and clear. So dismissing replies that you simply don't like as non constructive is very silly.
If you ask other users about their experience in similar situations, the replies you are going to receive are bound to be different because the variables that come in to play are countless.
ianl8888, my phone has the same problem, now that you have pointed it out! Once or twice when plugged into the wall or charging via USB, I have mistakenly left the WiFi on. The back of the phone gets extremely hot. I haven't used GPS yet.
I have the same problem, about 2 weeks i just travel to the beach and near to 1:30 hr of trip, my mobile stop to work, I do soft reset, and I catch that was really hot, because I'm charging and using GPS at the same time, my mobile is X1a and I have R2A ROM version. I imagine can be touchflow, so I uninstall and leave phone like originally came, but when I return from the beach I have exactly the same problem, I can't do a trip of 2 hours using GPS. I hope some one can find a solution.
so what exactly needs to be done - software problem or battery problem????
Has it ever occurred to anyone that it may be the cooling system in the phone and that it isn't ventilated right? Let's open a few holes in the case and see what happens!
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that it may be the cooling system in the phone and that it isn't ventilated right? Let's open a few holes in the case and see what happens!
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afaik, no phone have ventelation nor cooling system!
Edit : Heat-sink? Maybe but i don't think so! these things are not supposed to generate much heat! too much heat = more wasted energy = lower battery life
Coming from a Nokia 95 that I used to have to charge every 2 days after using it for GPS and WiFi I am totally impressed with my X1i that lasts 4 to 5 days with similar useage.
I remember my first phone (A motorola tac in 1995) that had a battery lasting all of 6 hours...
Well, great times you got. My phone is empty with 3 hours of GPS on.
As to the heating of battery/phone, my phone gets quite HOT outside when I use anything for a period of time (1hour) while NOT on charge.
I am using media player a lot to listen to music and after half an hour the phone becomes hard to hold in the hand because it heats up outside/backside really strong. Again, while NOT on charge, just using the battery power. And frankly that is more of concern that when on outlet power.
I had this with 2 different X1i's and both Silver!
I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
I love my vibrant had it since release....
Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!
I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant
I want mine to do my chores
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.
Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.
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I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.
What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...
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you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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I`ve had the phone for 3 days now and before upgradin from the Iphone 6 ( my first and last iphone) i was really anxious about the many issues listed in the forums especially the touchscreen problem. When i initially got it i started testing everything and I`m glad to say that everything worked fine (sooo relieved) but when i charged it for the first time it charged very slowly, about 3 hours for a full charge, and it got really hot when using lightly the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot. From all this i belive that LG did e very good job hardware wise but i think like many other conapnies fell a little short on the software department and hopefully it will be fixed in the updates to come.
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the 3rd day a did a factory reset and immediately noticed the the battery charged way faster about 1% per minute ( i dont know how it compares to you other guys) and the phone didnt get nearly as hot.
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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Factory reset is the first thing which I do with any new Android device I ever owned
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It seems to fix some issues for alot of user so i think its worth a try for anyone whos experiencing any ☺
Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Mine will start getting hot and eating battery once in a while, but a reboot always fixes that. 1% charge per minute is about what I see on the stock LG charger.
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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I bought the Tronsmart QC 2.0 and its awesome. I go from 48% to close to 100% in the 45min car ride home. I do not notice any heat that is worrying. It does get warm when charging but normal.
My G4 was raging out of the box. Super hot. Brightness was being throttled back between 100, 90, and 80 pretty frequently and it went from 60% to dead in like 15minutes. After I wiped and setup as new, it has been running as one would expect.
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Glad to hear that ☺. I actually purchased the wall charger but i guess the performance will be similiar. The one thing i noticed today was the battery life, it seems it is not that great during very light usage but that may be due to the fact that these couple of days the reception has been awful because the carrier im using (Vodafone) is switching to 4G for the first time in my country and ,a little out of topic i know, the download speeds have shocked me, my home connection max download speed is about 400-500kbps and today i witnessed 15-20mbps.
Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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Battery does drain faster in low signal areas. I found that a slow charge at night yeilds longer charges throughout the day. I use fast charge in the car so I can use GPS and still get a charge. But at home and office I use Qi Wireless Charging. I use fast charging at home but only when I am doing heavy useage. I slow charge while I sleep.
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How much of a charge do you actually gain in the car with the fast charger while using nav and music with screen on?
Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
I'm using SanDisk class 10 and there's no noticeable difference in my end
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Is any of you guys using a micro sd? Im using a Samusng 64Gb class 10 and im experiencing a lot of battery drain even when the phone is on idle and i was thinking if the card has anything to do with it.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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It could be the phone is performing media scanning which keeps the phone awake. This should be completed in a day or two.
If you still experience battery drain after couple of days. I'd suggest performing a full format of the micro SD card on a computer. Incase there are bad sectors on the SD card that the phone is stuck on try to read them.
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The funny thing is that the the two buying factors for me were the removable back and the micro SD slot, and the only issue I have may or may not be with the micro SD and a slightly loose hinge on the left side of the battery cover but I have experienced that with every phone I had including the g2 and the iPhone 6 without a removable back that had this issue.
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Even my 1+1 is way snappier with blisspop installed. Snappier than s6, snappier than g4.
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kozjegyzo said:
Hey,
This is my first LG phone. I'm a bit disappointed, but the camera makes up for everything (mostly).
First of all, the device I'm using right now is the third one within a week. I got it from Vodafone, and the first two had the same issue. When the screen was on, and showing bright things, the front speaker would give out a high pitched whistle sound. You could only hear it initially if you held it to your ear. However in recorded videos it was clear and loud enough to be very very annoying. This third unit is ok it seems, but my advice to everyone is to try the G4 before leaving the shop. It might just be a bad batch that was made for Vodafone, a similar thing happened to me with my HTC One X, that had screen issues, and there too I had to go through several devices.
I did notice lag, Nova Launcher helps, but I'm really looking to root the thing and putting CM or some AOSP rom on it. My S5 seems way snappier with BlissPop on it. The only problem with that is I loose the camera app, the thing I bought it for in the first place.
The battery is ok, but I expect more. I haven't had heat issues. The GPS draines the battery though really bad. If you don't use a charger whilst navigating, you'll go flat within an hour,which is not stellar at all. If you use a normal 2.1A charger, you can keep it on level, or might even add a few %.
The camera is awesome, and the leather back too. Cool that at Vodafone you get the leather and a plastic back in the box.
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Thankfully I didn't have any hardware issues, I have the Hong Kong version because there's where most of retailers get the phones in my country, I think there's a lot room for improvement software wise and I'm hoping coming updates especially android M, will refine this device even more. I really hoped my I would get the plastic back cover in the box and I'm really jealous of those who did ??
Im starting to notice two more things with the G4, the battery cover (leather) is making a creacking noise when i press it on some areas, and the other one is the with the vibration motor that makes a little bit of noise compared to other phones ive had, has any of you guys experienced this?
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Glad to know its not only me. Have you used a QC with the phone? I ordered a Tronsmart 2.0 QC off ebay hopefully it will work faster without any issues.
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I have charged it using my wifes samsung QC. Don't notice much difference over the stock LG charger.
I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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I'm not going to resort to a factory data reset because I shouldn't have to
come to think of it maybe I will try a reset
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It's up to you, but as you have seen its much recommended if you have any issues.
So anyone else thinking what im thinking HARD MODS baby. im a anti-government privacy pirate android junkie so naturally i take the camera modules out and im working on the GPS modules but i hav an idea to hav 2 batterys present in the phone now ive alrdy figured out how to mak the room but i need help wit the proper wiring set up. note in order to mak room the wireless copper charging coil will need to b removed "MAYBE" and the originally backin will need a cut out to accommodate the second battery as well as the internal frame<---thats 4 sure then simply apply a slickwrap to cover up
ADDed info: my main concern is the voltage from 2 batterys i know enough that doubling the voltage is bad [rlly bad lol, kill main board etc kinda bad] but doubling the battery capacity from 3220mah to 6440mah isnt CONCERN FIXED ONLY A PROBLEM IF CONNECTED IN SERIES NOT WEN IN PARALLEL ALSO VOLTAGE ON BOTH BATTERIES NEEDS TO B DAM NEAR THE SAME DEAD NUTS THE SAME
Dual battery mods completed safely and successfully on:
nexus 4 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4200mah-nexus-4-internal-battery-t2239829
samsung s3 - https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/accessories/samsung-4200mah-battery-mod-t1800177
Next issue is a minor soft mod which we'll need insight on the software file on the device the lists the 3220mah will need to b changed these/thise file could b used to calculate the correct battery percent to b shown in status bar or battery stat page in settings IF WE'RE GONNA DO THIS LETS DO IT 169% BABY
so a OEM battery is thin and cheap enough that i mite add 2 batteries instead, 3 in total
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So anyone else thinking what im thinking HARD MODS baby. im a anti-government privacy pirate android junkie so naturally i take the camera modules out and im working on the GPS modules but i hav an idea to hav 2 batterys present in the phone now ive alrdy figured out how to mak the room but i need help wit the proper wiring set up. note in order to mak room the wireless copper charging coil will need to b removed "MAYBE" and the originally backin will need a cut out to accommodate the second battery as well as the internal frame<---thats 4 sure then simply apply a slickwrap to cover up
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
That being said... an extra battery would be cool
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Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
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agreed but ive done both alrdy to b safe, they could push/sideload wirelessly the files needed to use camera modules my main focus is the dual battery mod any input on the wiring set up unfortunately i dont no much bout batterys to pull this off
as of now with almst perfect conditions i can get round 8hrs SOT but i need more, mmmm battery whore, 8hrs SOT wit 23hrs phone idle, heavy use overclocked games PSP emulater 2.5hrs SOT wit 18hrs phone idle and min. use 3.5hrs SOT 7-9days phone idle not bad but i need better dual better
You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone
ozzmanj1 said:
Just a thought, but couldn't you just remove the camera.apks and any files related to GPS? I would imagine that if the files are either not present or disabled that relate to camera and GPS, I would imagine if those things do not work on your phone then big G would not be able to access them either as the files needed are present... hope this makes sense. That way no hardware removal needed.
That being said... an extra battery would be cool
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Not really too much. As all the fuctionality is still there. The only thing missing is the UI. You could still activate it by command line. Couldnt snap a pic or anything but you could activate the camera and then stream it to where ever if there is a data connection.
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You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone
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Not at all. There are some that really do think that the Government is too wrapped up in our lives. There are also companies that require your cell phone to not have a camera.
Too many people these days have no idea about privacy. They have freely given it up. It is good to see someone that looks around at the world he lives in.
Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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Lol
Atticuspoint6 said:
Why do you think the government cares about spying on you, specifically? You sound intelligent, did you discover something you weren't supposed to? The government probably isn't the entity you should be worrying about. Walmart secretly owns Google. They are trying to achieve consumer omnipotence. They watch and listen to everything you do and say just so they know what products to sell you.
If you are this worried about it, you should know that at any point, they could send a signal to your phone causing it to go into "kill mode". The battery will send out a high intensity discharge of 50amps causing your heart to stop. If you are lucky enough to survive this, the battery explodes in an attempt to destroy the evidence. They haven't got the system working perfectly yet, that's why we saw all those note 7s blowing up.
They can send the kill mode signal to any phone, even non smart phones, so you probably shouldn't carry a phone. Or just buy the products they advertise to appease them. Your choice, I've probably said too much.
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Guys a bunch of black vans just pulled up outside my house if you're reading this it's too late.
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As for me. IT is part of the job. I work in many places that requires them to check on you from time to time. Heck the types of places I work even can dictate what type of device you can own and have with you. You also have to understand that there are things you can do to put yourself on thier watch list. It really isnt to hard to do really.
I perfect example is I was helping my son with a presentation on religious history and after downloading the Quran and was questioned about it less then a week later
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As for me. IT is part of the job. I work in many places that requires them to check on you from time to time. Heck the types of places I work even can dictate what type of device you can own and have with you. You also have to understand that there are things you can do to put yourself on thier watch list. It really isnt to hard to do really.
I perfect example is I was helping my son with a presentation on religious history and after downloading the Quran and was questioned about it less then a week later
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What else were you searching for, roofing nails(for that pesky leak) and pressure cookers (I have tomatoes to can, OK)?
All kidding aside, the amount of information out there on your average cell user is insane. Even before smartphones they could obtain a massive amount of information just from metadata.
I totally have respect for OP. Thanks for taking this thing apart, seeing how it ticks and deciding to make it tick different. Kudos on your cajones, sir!
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Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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You really dont think that turning off GPS on a device with the FEMA chip in it does any good do you?
Sometimes it is amazing how much people really dont know goes on in the world.
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You really dont think that turning off GPS on a device with the FEMA chip in it does any good do you?
Sometimes it is amazing how much people really dont know goes on in the world.
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Lulwut, FEMA chip?
Just glad we're not down that far on the 1984 road as you guys are over there (just yet). But FEMA chip? Any serious sources for that?
And questioning because of Quran searches? That PATRIOT act sure messed up something about your democracy if that is even remotely true.
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Lulwut, FEMA chip?
Just glad we're not down that far on the 1984 road as you guys are over there (just yet). But FEMA chip? Any serious sources for that?
And questioning because of Quran searches? That PATRIOT act sure messed up something about your democracy if that is even remotely true.
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You have no idea. That act was the dumbest thing people did and all because of the heat of the moment. They didnt read it and then got mad about it when they saw they gave the gov the right to monitor them.
You have not been around for long huh? The FEMA chip has been in devices for years. Search around. There are plenty of talks about it. Not sure if the FCC blueprints are still on the site but worth a look. There was a huge deal about it as it showed at one time to be connected to the mic and GPS moduals. Mind you this only applies to the US. This is part of the reason why our devs here prefer to get the EU models of devices.
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestne...ecial-chip-in-cell-phones-to-send-out-alerts/
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lov n the feed back guys ok mayb i shouldnt hav included the anti-government stuff tho in the header we r gettin side tracked jus listed that 4 examples of hard mods i use now we need to conclude the project on hand dual battery somone has to no sombody who nos somthin bout batterys electrical components voltage regulators etc.
out source to friends and family
JUS IMAGINE UR F**KING AWESOME BELOVED SEXY NEXUS 6 WIT A 6440mah BATTERY GIV N HER JUICE
OK another side project while we wait for feedbac on dual battery
man name ur cars boats d**ks lol motorbikes w/e rite so if u had to pic a nick name 4 ur nexus 6 what would it b. b sides shamu [lol stupid name] or the use of "nexus"
pr0ndigy said:
You must be into some majorly illegal **** if you are doing all this paranoid bull**** to your phone
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actually nope jus dont thinks its rite that ppl can c where i am and what im doin simply as that
For the batteries, connect them in parallel. + to +, - to -. I've done it on other phones and it works fine. I'm not sure how it would react with quickcharge, but I think it would be fine. I've actually been considering doing it on this phone as my battery is starting to show it's age. If I do, I will 3D print a frame and soft outer case much like how the ZeroLemon battery kit for the Note 3 was done.
Since you seem unsure about parallel vs series wiring, please read up on proper handling for lipo cells. I would not want to see anyone make their own Note 7 firebomb.
If you put the charging coil behind a battery, it won't work. Might as well save space and remove it. You might be able to relocate it to the outside battery.
If you are really concerned about GPS and camera, you should disconnect them or otherwise damage them. Can't do much about the mic though. If the GPS is marked, you can probably find a datasheet for it, then just cut the trace for power. Practice on an old PCB if you haven't done this before, you can cause serious damage to the board if you do it wrong. If a state level actor or good hacker is involved, they can still get rough location via cell towers, wifi IDs, and Stingrays. If you are really concerned, you should probably not carry a phone at all, or keep a metalized pouch with you to put it in (faraday cage).
After Snowden, and having worked in some environments, I get where people are coming from with it. In some cases it's not that people are doing anything wrong, they just want to have more control over their privacy. Not everyone wants their lives all over the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
jagpoag said:
Camera: put a piece of electrical tape over the lens or buy a pack of colored round stickers from the dollar tree and put one of the black ones over the lens. OR just take black paint, black marker etc and black it out
Tracking: turn off GPS, uninstall any and all apps
Last step:
Seek medical help for your mental issues
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mental help hahahaha im unfixable
ttabbal said:
For the batteries, connect them in parallel. + to +, - to -. I've done it on other phones and it works fine. I'm not sure how it would react with quickcharge, but I think it would be fine. I've actually been considering doing it on this phone as my battery is starting to show it's age. If I do, I will 3D print a frame and soft outer case much like how the ZeroLemon battery kit for the Note 3 was done.
Since you seem unsure about parallel vs series wiring, please read up on proper handling for lipo cells. I would not want to see anyone make their own Note 7 firebomb.
If you put the charging coil behind a battery, it won't work. Might as well save space and remove it. You might be able to relocate it to the outside battery.
If you are really concerned about GPS and camera, you should disconnect them or otherwise damage them. Can't do much about the mic though. If the GPS is marked, you can probably find a datasheet for it, then just cut the trace for power. Practice on an old PCB if you haven't done this before, you can cause serious damage to the board if you do it wrong. If a state level actor or good hacker is involved, they can still get rough location via cell towers, wifi IDs, and Stingrays. If you are really concerned, you should probably not carry a phone at all, or keep a metalized pouch with you to put it in (faraday cage).
After Snowden, and having worked in some environments, I get where people are coming from with it. In some cases it's not that people are doing anything wrong, they just want to have more control over their privacy. Not everyone wants their lives all over the internet, and there's nothing wrong with that.
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"parallel" self explanatory
my question is where to put the bridge to hav both batteries usable do i bridge the batteries together which i think would create a charging loop [charging battery 1 would then charge battery 2 until both full] then wen disconnected the phone would still show charging state
[i think] until battery 2 was depleted
i could b wrong now what bout the voltage comin from 2 batteries the battery outputs 3.7v give or tak now doubling that 7.4v should fry the voltage regulators if any present no?
elite-NSX said:
"parallel" self explanatory
my question is where to put the bridge to hav both batteries usable do i bridge the batteries together which i think would create a charging loop [charging battery 1 would then charge battery 2 until both full] then wen disconnected the phone would still show charging state
[i think] until battery 2 was depleted
i could b wrong now what bout the voltage comin from 2 batteries the battery outputs 3.7v give or tak now doubling that 7.4v should fry the voltage regulators if any present no?
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That's not how it works. Batteries in parallel charge and discharge together. The voltage does not change. Batteries in series adds the voltages together. In parallel the voltage is the same but the current and capacity go up.
To the phone, batteries in parallel look like one battery. They do self-regulate/charge against each other, but the phone can't see that. For safety reasons, you need to make sure the voltage of the two batteries is similar, within about 0.1 volts, before connecting them. If you connected a fully charged battery to an empty one, the worst case, the full battery would dump power into the empty one trying to fill it to the same voltage. This would likely destroy the empty battery as it would not be able to handle a charge rate that high. It might also damage the full one, as cell phone batteries are not designed for high current discharge.