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Hey guys! So i've narrowed down my choices for a new phone:
Huawei Mate 7 or Xperia Z3. Both are great sexy phones but I like the larger screen, fingerprint, and less bezel on the mate 7. Both have around the same screen on time (around 10 hrs).
For Mate 7:
- Screen looks washed out compared to other flagships, Z3 gets brighter
+ Bigger screen, smaller bezels
+ Fingerprint scanner
? Kirin 925 (I've heard its worse than the 801 and has lags and micro stutters when scrolling in browser, is the phone laggy?)
For Xperia Z3:
+ Bright, colorful screen
- Smaller screen, bigger bezels
+ Front facing stereo speakers
+ Faster updates (It's nice but I don't really mind that much about updates, as long as the mate7 eventually gets lollipop)
Is there some way to adjust the colors and make it more saturated/vivid on the Mate 7? and are the reports of the Mate 7 lagging in browser etc true? Please help me decide what you would go for if you had the choice between these two

It would depend on how you would use the phone. If you are just a regular user and a non techy one. Mate7 is good enough. But keep in mind that Emui has no app drawer. Updates are slow compared to Sony. Limited custom Roms if you are in to that. I would suggest reading the owner's impressions thread to see how others like the phone and the pros and cons for them.
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Easy Computer said:
It would depend on how you would use the phone. If you are just a regular user and a non techy one. Mate7 is good enough. But keep in mind that Emui has no app drawer. Updates are slow compared to Sony. Limited custom Roms if you are in to that. I would suggest reading the owner's impressions thread to see how others like the phone and the pros and cons for them.
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Thanks. I primarily use my phone for social stuff like Facebook and Whatsapp (though barely use the camera), listening to Music, and heavy gaming, like GTA San Andreas (which i've heard runs extremely well on max settings (because of the mali GPU in the mate 7) compared to Snapdragon devices, where they lag on max,) and Asphalt 8. I don't care about updates or custom roms ever since Xposed. Can always stick an AOSP based launcher on top, and that would probably be the first thing I do if I do this device. Don't care about updates that much. My main, biggest gripe of the Huawei is the screen color saturation, they look bland compared to other flagships. Anybody figure out anything to fix that? My Nexus 4 had the same problem, but after using a custom kernel with gamma controls the screen just felt like something else completely. I got spoiled by the beautifully saturated colors of my N4 after calibration, and don't want a bland screen. The Z3 is better in this regard - its not the most saturated screen but its miles better than the mate 7 in that regard. Why can't Huawei calibrate their screens properly out of the box!

Colors are great, Screen doesn't look washed at all. First go and see the phone live in a showroom.
The phone it's not laggy.
But if you are a heavy gamer don't expect to get 10 hours screen on time with neither one. 5-6 hours maybe, and with brightness set on auto.
8 hours screen on time it't the best that I got with mate7( dual sim version).
Sony are not quick to update their phones also, just one month ago they updated z3 to lolipop.

The warmth/colour tone can be adjusted via settings slider
Screen is excellent, my last phone was a z2

roy8846 said:
The warmth/colour tone can be adjusted via settings slider
Screen is excellent, my last phone was a z2
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I saw the Mate 7 irl for some reason I think it was washed out... maybe it's just my imagination :silly: i'll try to check it out again in a store

In all honesty wait for Mate 8 it will be released soon most likely.
And also I heard news today that Note 5 most likely will be released in July too...
Mate 7 will most likely drop even more in price for that reason It might be attractive for some though.
It still a good phone for the price.

If you wait for a bit more... You can get almost all of the last years flagships for less after july or august.
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Please tell me after Note 5 and mate 8 and D8 what the hell other devices are worth waiting for ?
as what I know there are known.. unless you want an iphone 6s
The reason Note 5 will be released more early is that they want to get it out before Iphone 6s the big version.
Also Samsung have said the development has gone faster the expected with Note 5.
Do you mean paper releases like oneplus1 ?
or the new bezelless oppo find ?

Easy Computer said:
If you wait for a bit more... You can get almost all of the last years flagships for less after july or august.
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The prices have already come down enough for them to be in my price range for all of last year's flagships, so that doesn't matter to me anymore. Its just these three phones which I have narrowed it down to because of my personal preferences
If some sort of confirmation or leak about a huawei nexus, or mate 8 or oneplus two gets released by the end of June then I think i'll wait if I like, otherwise i'll just take one of these phones, because right now i've been with a Lenovo A706 (some cheap budget android phone that came free with my new laptop) because my nexus 4 crapped out on me a year ago, and this lenovo is horrendously slow, bad battery life bad everything basically :laugh:
Note 5 (and iPhone 6/6S) will be too expensive for my price range (my price range is ~1700 AED), and I haven't liked Samsung's designs since the S2/Galaxy Nexus, because of the colored, pattern bezels, (just want deep black) which is also the main reason why I won't consider the Note 4, even though it has better specs overall (and that LOVELY amoled screen) and is in my price range. I'm very picky with my devices, because I only change once every 3-4 years.

Mate 9 have better performance than Huawei P10 Flagship.

You can see a benchmark on GSM:
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mwc_2017_p10_p10_plus_watch_2-review-1577p3.php

The p10 doesn't have final software yet. And the differences in benchmarks right now are minimal.

The difference is negligible and will definitely not be noticed in real world scenarios. However, why is this surprising or even a topic of discussion? The SoC is identical. Therefore it has the same performance. Then there is software. The software is newer but not final on the P10. Finally: the Mate 9 has a bigger enclosure and more surface area to distribute the heat and therefore will always be slightly 'better'. The same reason why the Mate 9 beats the Mate 9 Pro in non-graphical benchmarks.

P10 was really underwhelming for me. P10 plus even more so. Basically a Mate 9 Pro with a smaller battery, no?

Mate series is the Huawei flagship device. The P series is below it

duraaraa said:
P10 was really underwhelming for me. P10 plus even more so. Basically a Mate 9 Pro with a smaller battery, no?
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P10 has a better lens assembly (dual f1.8 both with OIS), 4x4 MIMO antenna for better reception and sd-card slot (mate 9 pro has none). Yes, minor changes, but may be important for camera centric users (like myself).
Let's see how P10 plus performs first.

vasra said:
P10 has a better lens assembly (dual f1.8 both with OIS), 4x4 MIMO antenna for better reception and sd-card slot (mate 9 pro has none). Yes, minor changes, but may be important for camera centric users (like myself).
Let's see how P10 plus performs first.
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The sd card slot is very nice, indeed. 256GB internal + SD card (albeit Chinese version only, which has somewhat limited LTE bands compared to int'l version) is a dream.
But if the battery life is worse than the Mate 9/Pro, that will be a sad thing. If you compare the Mate 8 to the P9, the difference in battery life is absolutely huge.
Luckily, it seems EMUI 5.1 has some decent battery optimizations. When I had it on my Mate 9, the battery didn't drain, at all, for quite a long time. Can't be sure until official release, of course.

duraaraa said:
The sd card slot is very nice, indeed. 256GB internal + SD card (albeit Chinese version only, which has somewhat limited LTE bands compared to int'l version) is a dream.
But if the battery life is worse than the Mate 9/Pro, that will be a sad thing. If you compare the Mate 8 to the P9, the difference in battery life is absolutely huge.
Luckily, it seems EMUI 5.1 has some decent battery optimizations. When I had it on my Mate 9, the battery didn't drain, at all, for quite a long time. Can't be sure until official release, of course.
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The Mate 9 will have better battery life for obvious reasons and the devices aren't really meant replace one another, so I don't really see the point in making a 1:1 comparison. They're aimed at different customers with the P series being more 'mainstream'.
The bigger battery on the Mate series will in most cases trounce the P series and that's the point. However you get a smaller device with the P series.
So pick one. You can't have both.
The camera and signal reception will be superior on the P10P. The P series also has some interesting color/design options. The camera being flush with the chassis is also great.
Only thing they could have done differently is SoC (TSMC isn't ready with 10nm just yet, so Huawei is forced to wait for a Kirin 970 that hopefully has a bigger GPU and updated IP blocks on the SoC) or update the camera sensors.
I also don't think comparing older devices with new ones serve any purpose. A lot has changed since then. The difference will be smaller in battery life this time but you can't fight physics on this.

Trixanity said:
The Mate 9 will have better battery life for obvious reasons and the devices aren't really meant replace one another, so I don't really see the point in making a 1:1 comparison. They're aimed at different customers with the P series being more 'mainstream'.
The bigger battery on the Mate series will in most cases trounce the P series and that's the point. However you get a smaller device with the P series.
So pick one. You can't have both.
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My disappointment is mainly aimed at the larger P10 Plus. 5.5 inch screen, same as Mate 9 pro, but a smaller battery. Although the difference in the battery size is not huge, I'm surprised they didn't go with 4000, since they managed to fit that in the M9 Pro.
Of course with the smaller P10, it can't be helped.

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My disappointment is mainly aimed at the larger P10 Plus. 5.5 inch screen, same as Mate 9 pro, but a smaller battery. Although the difference in the battery size is not huge, I'm surprised they didn't go with 4000, since they managed to fit that in the M9 Pro.
Of course with the smaller P10, it can't be helped.
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The Mate 9 Pro is 0.5mm thicker. That's probably where the 250 mAh comes from. They went with the more 'aesthetically pleasing' design for the P series (aka thin is better than battery life). I also think the display assembly for AMOLED displays is thinner and overall smaller, so probably a fair bit more internal volume for battery when all factors are accounted for.

same SOC doesn't means same performance all the time. thin body means it need to sacrifices some performance to keep it cool and less power consumption. same SOC yes, but different turning, result of different performance.

Honor 8 outperformed my S8

So I found my Honor 8 in the drawer this morning and for fun I tried booting it up. So imagine my suprise when my Kirin 950 just about blasted through every freaking app I had.
How can this be
I know the S8 has some layers of software on top of Android but so does Honor's EMUI. Apps and webpages loads faster on the Kirin than the Exynos...
Did I pay 3-400$ just for the bigger screen?
Anyone have any opinions?

KazuhiraDokky said:
So imagine my suprise when my Kirin 950 just about blasted through every freaking app I had.
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If "blasting through every freaking app you have" is what you typically use your phone for save some money and sell your S8 and use the Huawei phone. I'm guessing most people spend their time in a couple of apps for some duration. I'd find it hard to believe there's a noticeable difference between contemporary phones in those scenarios. That's where things like design, the display, and other features set phones apart. Buy what makes you happy.

How does it handle Dolphin emulator and ppsspp? ?

Huawei has better optimised software

For real , I feel my wife honor 8 more smooth than my s8

I have both and used both for at least a few weeks. I'd say it really shows how smart phone is gradually saturating in features and hardware vs need.
The honor 8 was a replacement for my previous gone-with-the-river phone (zuk Z2, another great one in SOC wise, super cheap but lacks good build and good ROM support), I did not expect much and it's surprisingly good in general, especially considering the price (32GB, sub $300 typically, $240-260 a few times). It's well built, and while no spec shines, it really lacks nothing IMO. Maybe a multi function finger print sensor button will be a good additional feature.
When comparing to the S8, I don't feel much difference in real experience, including smoothness. S8 got a better camera and gorgeous design/screen, and that's about it for me. For mere performance, S8 loads game/graphics faster. Actually I feel the interfaces/function layouts are kinds of similar to each other, and different from Zuk's ZUI and native android. The overall futuristic design is about the only true reason for me to keep the S8, at a much higher price.

I had an Honor 8 and prefer my S8+ in every aspect, it plays games better at a much higher resolution which makes them look much better. It has Gear VR which if you have not used the new one with the controller is actually awesome, the camera is a lot better despite Huwei's claims and whats on paper, in the real world the camera is much much better and faster.

I've owned previously and mate 9 with more powerfull hardware than honor 8, and maybe mate 9 can be fast in some task than the s8, but I won't go back to mate 9, like someone said before there is a very little difference in nowadays phones, and its almost impossible to feel the difference in day use.. So the choice reduces to individual preferences and small details, for example maybe Oneplus 3t can be faster and better optimized than s8, but I love the screen ratio on s8 and now even I like very much Samsung UX.

neeviour said:
I have both and used both for at least a few weeks. I'd say it really shows how smart phone is gradually saturating in features and hardware vs need.
The honor 8 was a replacement for my previous gone-with-the-river phone (zuk Z2, another great one in SOC wise, super cheap but lacks good build and good ROM support), I did not expect much and it's surprisingly good in general, especially considering the price (32GB, sub $300 typically, $240-260 a few times). It's well built, and while no spec shines, it really lacks nothing IMO. Maybe a multi function finger print sensor button will be a good additional feature.
When comparing to the S8, I don't feel much difference in real experience, including smoothness. S8 got a better camera and gorgeous design/screen, and that's about it for me. For mere performance, S8 loads game/graphics faster. Actually I feel the interfaces/function layouts are kinds of similar to each other, and different from Zuk's ZUI and native android. The overall futuristic design is about the only true reason for me to keep the S8, at a much higher price.
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Honor 8 has built in mult function fingerprint sensor. You can turn on the feature in settings and even program it to do what you want right out the box.
You can even swipe thru the photos in the gallery..if you still have the Honor 8 play with this feature...it's definitely a big reason to have the phone!

tiguy99 said:
Honor 8 has built in mult function fingerprint sensor. You can turn on the feature in settings and even program it to do what you want right out the box.
You can even swipe thru the photos in the gallery..if you still have the Honor 8 play with this feature...it's definitely a big reason to have the phone!
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yes, Honor 8 finger print sensor has some gesture support
by saying "multi function finger print sensor", I meant such as the one on the Zuk Z2, which can replace the navigation bar (back/home/menu keys). That saves some screen space and makes full screen display intact.

I have an Xiaomi Mi A1 with custom kernel and Lineage 15.1 with the latest nightly and it outperforms my S8 in so many ways. Samsungs bloat totally bottlenecks their hardware. There should be an Android One version.

Will you buy another 6 inch phone.. Mate 10 maybe?

With the mate 10 on the horizon, will you stick with Huawei or a different brand. Could you get a similar spec with a budget Chinese phone like Xiaomi?
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Phablet category will be dead soon since all including mate 10 will go over too 18:9 aspect ratio which means a lot smaller screen area...

blackinfinity said:
Phablet category will be dead soon since all including mate 10 will go over too 18:9 aspect ratio which means a lot smaller screen area...
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We are seeing some big players (Samsung, LG, Google) experimenting with 18:9 (2:1) but it will be down to the consumer i guess if these phones are as popular as previous other aspect ratio models.
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First of, I bought my mate 8 less than a year ago, and have no intention of changing it before 2/3 years. It would be a poor choice of a phone if I felt the need to change it every year.
But if by accident I HAD to change it, I think I would look toward the note note 8 rather than than the mate 10. The plus being stylus and waterproof. And since none of those are things are really must-have, I would most probably look for a cheaper large screen phone. Maybe another used mate 8 or mate 7. Or whatever good occasion I can find.
I mean, I can't really see what the mate 10 would do better.
Battery life ? Haven't seen any real gain for years.
Photo quality ? Some progress, but the mate 8 is more than enough for me.
Raw power ? I don't use it much. Mate 8 has more than enough for years to come.
VR ? It's still not good on a smartphone, mate 8 or otherwise..
What I'm trying ot say is that I'm satisfied by my mate 8. But the question is more "are recent phones bringing anything worth the change ?"
For a few years now, phones makers have been strugling to bring anything new of value to the table. Raw power and screen quality have reached a level where they are already beyond what you need for the use of a smartphone. There has been nothing new in battery for years. Photo quality can still get better, with better low light and/or zoom. But it's far from being enough to motivate a change. And soldity/reliability has been progressing very slowly.
Today, I think I could have a Mate 7 or a mate 10 and barely see the difference in everyday use. Both phone would be smooth, have pretty much the same software (with a few tweaks for the mate 7) same battery life, pretty much same internet speed ... one would take slightly better photo, and that's it.

Both mare 8 and 9 I one of the phones that have aged best. Pocketnow did a video about the 9 recently.
Mate 8 does not feel obsolete at all despite being from 2015

6 inch yes... mate/Huawei no..

nice thread and perfect timing id say, kudos to rhe OP!
after the mate 8 (which i will most likely keep for another year at least, especially since there is nothing interesting on the market atm or in the near future, except maybe the xiaomi mi mix 2), i will not be able to go back to anything smaller than 6 inches. it is just so damn nice to have so much screen real estate! and ive gotten used to the size, everything smaller seems tiny in comparison, whereas my mate 8 just seems "normal" in size
i agree with above posters concerning the 2:1 screen ratio that is becoming more popular lately: the diagonal numbers seem to get larger (i.e. S8+ at 6.2 inches) but the actual screen area is actually identical to the mate 8 with 0.2 inches LESS diagonal screen size! so thats something to keep an eye out for when buying a new phone these days.
looking at the bezels of the mate 8 id say a phone with a 16:9 screen of around 6.4-6.5 inches and sporting razorthin bezels on all four sides would be absolutely perfect in screen/overall size and -to-body-ratio
in retrospect, my mate 8 experience so far (about 17 months ownership) has been quite pleasant! its a great phone, excellent battery life (10h sot on average with a range of 8-12h depending on usage intensity), super solid built (feels like a tank but still very graceful and sexy), awesome screen and lots of real estate on it and last, but not least, fluid stable software.
the only real gripe i have with it is that we are dependant on basically one or two major devs, namely kangvip and hrt team, thats it. otherwise we will be EOL once huawei stops publishing firmware upgrades.
nevertheless, i will keep an eye out for the mate 10 and see what it brings to the table
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YOU BET
In 2010, I started with the Dell Streak 5. Oh the looks I got from people "THAT is your phone?" "What do you need
a screen THAT big". This was in the day that 3.5" was the NORMAL size or a smartphone.
Then, I went with the Samsung Galaxy Note1, then the Mate2, and now the Mate8.
I PREFER the larger screen, mostly because my eyesight isn't what it once was, and, because the larger screen
phones usually have larger batteries.
If they make one with smaller bezels, but not 100% bezel-less, with a 4,000mAH or larger battery, that is about or
a little thicker than the Mate2/8, I'll get one.

My mate 8 still works fine.

p51d007 said:
In 2010, I started with the Dell Streak 5. Oh the looks I got from people "THAT is your phone?" "What do you need
a screen THAT big". This was in the day that 3.5" was the NORMAL size or a smartphone.
Then, I went with the Samsung Galaxy Note1, then the Mate2, and now the Mate8.
I PREFER the larger screen, mostly because my eyesight isn't what it once was, and, because the larger screen
phones usually have larger batteries.
If they make one with smaller bezels, but not 100% bezel-less, with a 4,000mAH or larger battery, that is about or
a little thicker than the Mate2/8, I'll get one.
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haha so true! i still remember when the streak came out, it looked HUGE to me nowadays its on the lower half of screen sizes, hahaha. how times change
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kaceps said:
First of, I bought my mate 8 less than a year ago, and have no intention of changing it before 2/3 years. It would be a poor choice of a phone if I felt the need to change it every year.
But if by accident I HAD to change it, I think I would look toward the note note 8 rather than than the mate 10. The plus being stylus and waterproof. And since none of those are things are really must-have, I would most probably look for a cheaper large screen phone. Maybe another used mate 8 or mate 7. Or whatever good occasion I can find.
I mean, I can't really see what the mate 10 would do better.
Battery life ? Haven't seen any real gain for years.
Photo quality ? Some progress, but the mate 8 is more than enough for me.
Raw power ? I don't use it much. Mate 8 has more than enough for years to come.
VR ? It's still not good on a smartphone, mate 8 or otherwise..
What I'm trying ot say is that I'm satisfied by my mate 8. But the question is more "are recent phones bringing anything worth the change ?"
For a few years now, phones makers have been strugling to bring anything new of value to the table. Raw power and screen quality have reached a level where they are already beyond what you need for the use of a smartphone. There has been nothing new in battery for years. Photo quality can still get better, with better low light and/or zoom. But it's far from being enough to motivate a change. And soldity/reliability has been progressing very slowly.
Today, I think I could have a Mate 7 or a mate 10 and barely see the difference in everyday use. Both phone would be smooth, have pretty much the same software (with a few tweaks for the mate 7) same battery life, pretty much same internet speed ... one would take slightly better photo, and that's it.
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Totally agree with this

vervester said:
With the mate 10 on the horizon, will you stick with Huawei or a different brand. Could you get a similar spec with a budget Chinese phone like Xiaomi?
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i don't stick huawei.
i'll buy xiaomi if they release gooe one.
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i don't stick huawei.
i'll buy xiaomi if they release gooe one.
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yeah im curious about their upcoming mi mix 2, should be interesting

Speculations about Mate 10.
Kirin 970 chipset, 18:9 6-inch 2160x1080px screen, 3D sensing dual cameras.
http://www.gsmarena.com/due_in_the_...will_have_an_edgetoedge_screen-news-26022.php

6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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anwedr said:
6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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we dont i just said its important to consider that with 18:9 screens we actually get less screen area than with 16:9 screens at identical inches.

I think the strategy behind 9:18 is that its different to what the last generation of phones have, it will look a bit different, so seem attractive. We have had super high res screens before for a while (LG G3 etc) but 9:18 is something new. Thing is we keep falling for it :-/
in a perfect world id like something with a similar sized screen to the mate 8, significantly lighter (feels a bit of a tank in the hand if I'm honest) excellent battery life ( 16 SOT) and a camera that could really produce stunning shots in all conditions. Ok, maybe a few years away with all that but the upgrades we now have are pretty marginal and I think the mobile phone companies are clutching at straws in terms of upgrade possibilities with todays technology.
Like most I'm in no rush to upgrade the Mate 8, if rumor is to be believed we will see Android O at some point but I wont hold my breath, having said that, Battery life has took a major hit since upgrading from marshmallow to Nougat.

vervester said:
I think the strategy behind 9:18 is that its different to what the last generation of phones have, it will look a bit different, so seem attractive. We have had super high res screens before for a while (LG G3 etc) but 9:18 is something new. Thing is we keep falling for it :-/
in a perfect world id like something with a similar sized screen to the mate 8, significantly lighter (feels a bit of a tank in the hand if I'm honest) excellent battery life ( 16 SOT) and a camera that could really produce stunning shots in all conditions. Ok, maybe a few years away with all that but the upgrades we now have are pretty marginal and I think the mobile phone companies are clutching at straws in terms of upgrade possibilities with todays technology.
Like most I'm in no rush to upgrade the Mate 8, if rumor is to be believed we will see Android O at some point but I wont hold my breath, having said that, Battery life has took a major hit since upgrading from marshmallow to Nougat.
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mmm yes and no. actually, its our own (the consumer`s) fault: samsung, LG and others did their market research including consumer questioning and the result was this: consumer wants bigger screens but without the hassle of a phone too wide to hold in one hand! solution? easy: make the screens longer but stick to the same width! thus we get 18:9 screens, voila
nice benefit for the manufacturers / for marketing: diagonal size in inches increases by a LOT (i.e. friggin 6.2 inches diagonal on S8+) but screen real estate doesnt increase as much as with 16:9 screens! (again: mate 8 with 6.0 inch screen has same display area as S8+ with "bigger" 6.2 inch screen )

jbmc83 said:
mmm yes and no. actually, its our own (the consumer`s) fault: samsung, LG and others did their market research including consumer questioning and the result was this: consumer wants bigger screens but without the hassle of a phone too wide to hold in one hand! solution? easy: make the screens longer but stick to the same width! thus we get 18:9 screens, viola
nice benefit: diagonal size in inches increases by a LOT (i.e. friggin 6.2 inches diagonal on S8+) but screen real estate doesnt increase as much as with 16:9 screens! (again: mate 8 with 6.0 inch screen has same display area as S8+ with "bigger" 6.2 inch screen )
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That's a fair comment, and I can see why a narrower phone with similar screen size would appeal to some. Also I guess it's a bit more pocketable. Personally tho I like 16:9 but guess I wouldn't rule out something slightly easier in the pocket.
Xiaomi Chiron anyone?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/07/rumor-xiaomi-chiron-flagship-sport-6-inch-189-screen.html
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anwedr said:
6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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18:9 is the new cancer that we have to live with.. People are stupid they think 6 inches with 18:9 is bigger then on 16:9 for instance..
screeb area is actually less with the same inch size on 18:9.
People still when talking about phone sizes mostly talk about "inches" but you need to know the aspect ratio now also..

Mate 10

Anyone watching the keynote? I really love my mate 9 but I'm already doing my financials, mate 10 Pro on the way!!!

I prefer mate 10 with the headphone jack and microsd card slot. Also I don't really like the 18:9 ratio... but I still need time to consider.

I am going back to Nokia after my mate 9... EMUI sucks.

dlhak said:
I am going back to Nokia after my mate 9... EMUI sucks.
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HAHA! Good luck with that! Why does EMUI suck tho? I think it's really good... Have fun with Nokia

I really want to see the LTE band support of the Chinese model. I need Band 41, and for some reason even though they had support for it for non-Chinese Mate 9's, they don't for Mate 10's.
Regardless I have to buy one. After all, my business depends on it

The new mate 10 versions are a disaster. If they combined them into one phone at the price of around 600 bucks it would kill all other phones like this just meh.

arminbih said:
The new mate 10 versions are a disaster. If they combined them into one phone at the price of around 600 bucks it would kill all other phones like this just meh.
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Yes.
I don't know what they were thinking for those design/specs/features decisions.
No matter which one you take - Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro, there are trade-offs that are not acceptable - at all.
I will keep checking on xdadevelopers to see everyone's feedback on the Mate 9 with Oreo (once that is rolled out).
Based on that, I may go pick up a Mate 9.
Otherwise, I have money that I had (planned) to spend on a Mate 10 (16:9 version) - but now, I am not sure it is worth it.
One last thing. Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
Too many compromises for me to swallow - if I am expected to pay flagship prices for this.

icemankent said:
Yes.
I don't know what they were thinking for those design/specs/features decisions.
No matter which one you take - Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro, there are trade-offs that are not acceptable - at all.
I will keep checking on xdadevelopers to see everyone's feedback on the Mate 9 with Oreo (once that is rolled out).
Based on that, I may go pick up a Mate 9.
Otherwise, I have money that I had (planned) to spend on a Mate 10 (16:9 version) - but now, I am not sure it is worth it.
One last thing. Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
Too many compromises for me to swallow - if I am expected to pay flagship prices for this.
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Mate 9 is good if you can get it for a good price. I wouldn't pay more than 400 for mate 9. The biggest advantage this phones have is their battery and on this 1080p display on mate 9 it will last u 7 hours min. No other phone can do that. Software support is lacking even though you really don't need the newest all the time since there will always be bugs and flaws. Gaming is great even if the GPU is weaker then it's competition. Display is good on accuracy but you need to play a bit with it and set it more to red tint zone since it is naturally set to too much blue. Overall good phone with it's flaws like any other.

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When the Mate 9 came out, I wanted to go for the pro cos of the amoled screen, but disliked it for two reasons (front-facing fps and smaller screen size). Now, I wanted to go for the mate 10 and they switch the location of the fps.
I'm in a bind;
1. I hate fps on front so it has to be the pro for me
2. As an audiophile, I love wired headsets (pro doesn't have it) so, Mate 10
3. I want a 6GB ram
4. I want an oled screen but just found out that the Mate 10 screen has 499 ppi while the pro has 402 ppi which means that the Mate 10 is sharper but the pro has more vivid colours.
This leaves me in a conundrum cos each phone has something I dislike and like.
I would have loved the pro as it is, with its features but have a 3.5mm audio jack, and at least a 499ppi

I feel all what you feel? Idiot decisions. I really don't know which one to go for? And it's making me dislike both. Damn

Over all I think there many nice, some subtle, improvements. Worry a little about the AI. Especially as data is gathered about you.
My Chinese version of Mate 9 has 6GB ram. Will there be a similar Chinese Version of Mate 10? Don't know why only offer 4GB Mate 10.
How does performance compare for 4GB vs 6GB on Mate 9? Not interested in pro version. Hate 18:9 ratio. Too thin. More like candy bar...
Might get Mate 10 although not currently offered in US.

Unbelievable, after hyping it up so much, this is the best Huawei can do. I love the mate 9 and was looking forward to the Mate 10 but with all the [email protected] they are doing with this release, I probably will wait till next year for something better. I got to say this is one of the more disappointing releases ever.

To be honest, i came here to see the opinion of mate 9 users about mate 10, because i thoughts it is really bad... i was thinking between note 8 and mate 10... but after seeing mate 10, i was really disappointed. tho, i appreciate the speed and performance, but also not on the behalf of features. who needs so fast smart chip if it is not going to be used or not enough features to use it.
i might probably go for note 8.

zayidhs said:
When the Mate 9 came out, I wanted to go for the pro cos of the amoled screen, but disliked it for two reasons (front-facing fps and smaller screen size). Now, I wanted to go for the mate 10 and they switch the location of the fps.
I'm in a bind;
1. I hate fps on front so it has to be the pro for me
2. As an audiophile, I love wired headsets (pro doesn't have it) so, Mate 10
3. I want a 6GB ram
4. I want an old screen but just found out that the Mate 10 screen has 499 ppi while the pro has 402 ppi which means that the Mate 10 is sharper.
This leaves me in a conundrum cos each phone has something I dislike and like.
I would have loved the pro to as it is with other features but a 3.5mm audio jack, and at least a 499ppi
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There will be a Mate 10 version with more storage and more RAM released in China. Not sure if there will be a 256 but there will be a 128/6 at least from what I hear. So you could buy a Chinese one and rebrand it, and it would solve #3 at least.

Happy that I got my Mate 9 for $500. Although the Mate 10 is tempting, The pricing of the mate 10 is ridiculous

I actually like the new designs but won't get it. The mate 9 is still a great phone.
The mate 11 will be my next mate imo.

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Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
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Funny, that's one of the things that would make me want to switch to the Mate 10. Mate 9 was the first phone I've had with a rear sensor. It's just not as natural to me as a front sensor, especially when it's sitting near me on a desk. Having to pick it up just to get to the sensor is a PITA. I haven't read much about the Mate 10, but if they did the thing where the sensor replaces all of the on-screen controls (swipe to go back, etc.), that would be great. Though it would still take a lot more than a new fingerprint sensor to get me to upgrade phones.

Picking between the Mate 10 and 10 Pro, seems like the Mate 10 is the best value. If you can live without wireless charging and fps on back of phone, and, resign yourself to the likelihood that development will likely be slower than some Qualcomm based phone, the Mate 10 is probably the best all round Android phone out there. If you know of a better one please chime in and say why!
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_10_pro_porsche-review-1669p8.php

HOPEFULLY the era of overpriced phones is hitting its peak. Already I've heard many say they are skipping the iPhoneX because of the price. I think the silly price of phones, considering each phone within the past few years is basically the same as last years model, with sideways improvements, or gimmicks. First words out of most presenters mouths when shown is "colorful, stylish, slim".
Who cares. Apple was the really screwy one putting SLICK glass on the BACK of a phone, that many people will put a case on anyway, or, run it naked, drop it and shatter the front AND the back.
At least Huawei has kept the 4,000mAH battery from the Mate2, through the 10. If they would have kept the price down a bit, they could clean up. I'm not one of the "gotta buy the latest/greatest" because I find a better bang for the buck, of buying last years latest & greatest thing, typically for 1/2 price.
Then you'll hear the "but you won't get the latest updates"....For me, it doesn't matter. Heck, in my experience, except for kit-kat, everything from Jelly Bean on up has been stable enough that I had no need to root, hack, custom flash my 3 Huawei phones.