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Will you update to Mate 9 ?

Huawei Mate 9 have been officially presented, did it meet your expectations will you upgrade to it from your mate 8 ?

For me, it's a No
The pro version is simply too expensive and I personally dislike the front button
The normal version, camera aside, is more software improvement than hardware. For me the double leica camera is not enough reason for changing

jborbonv said:
For me, it's a No
The pro version is simply too expensive and I personally dislike the front button
The normal version, camera aside, is more software improvement than hardware. For me the double leica camera is not enough reason for changing
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Good said, I agree with you, they have done a lot with the software this year, the physical look on mate 9 looks very uninspiring, even their honor 8 looks superior, I would prefer the same back as honor 8.
The camera bump looks disgusting.. it is much about how the camere will live up to the expectations.
I wish it had 3 in one sim/sd slot like they have in some honor devices, most people most use SD card so then they can not use the dual sim functionality.
i am disspointed there is no amoled screen, to be honest I expected 2k amoled this time.. to make it daydream and VR ready.
They could make the smartphone thicker to make bigger battery to compensate for a more high resolution screen and also to get rid of the camera bump.
Personally I have not decided what to buy, it is this against Mi Mix for me, mi mix have **** camera.. that is the main difference..I also think EMUI 5.0 is better in the software department then MIUI.
I wish the price would be little better.
I do not like the Porshe version that much despite the price, 5.5 is way to small, I had a 5.5 before and it is a big difference in experience during the 3 month I had it I bought a tablet, when I get a 6 inch I have no need for tablet.
as I said we will see about the camera.. it is the camera that will decide the true caliber of this device.
if not that Mate series is still one of the very few devices that have an acceptably battery time, not every one want to have a battery back always with you ..
I am extreme heavy user, with a screen on time with about 8 hours per day sometimes more..
I bought mate 8 only about 3 months ago, and I feel if Mate 8 get EMUI 5.0 it would feel reborn again..so not sure how I will do..
I know from past experience the prices of Mate devices are kind of static so there is no reason to wait 6 months to buy it, if you are going to buy it, buy it as soon as possible since the price will not get lower with time.

Just for cpu upgrade, I won't upgrade to Mate 9
Porche edition, out of reach

You should become their designer..hehehe
blackinfinity said:
Good said, I agree with you, they have done a lot with the software this year, the physical look on mate 9 looks very uninspiring, even their honor 8 looks superior, I would prefer the same back as honor 8.
The camera bump looks disgusting.. it is much about how the camere will live up to the expectations.
I wish it had 3 in one sim/sd slot like they have in some honor devices, most people most use SD card so then they can not use the dual sim functionality.
i am disspointed there is no amoled screen, to be honest I expected 2k amoled this time.. to make it daydream and VR ready.
They could make the smartphone thicker to make bigger battery to compensate for a more high resolution screen and also to get rid of the camera bump.
Personally I have not decided what to buy, it is this against Mi Mix for me, mi mix have **** camera.. that is the main difference..I also think EMUI 5.0 is better in the software department then MIUI.
I wish the price would be little better.
I do not like the Porshe version that much despite the price, 5.5 is way to small, I had a 5.5 before and it is a big difference in experience during the 3 month I had it I bought a tablet, when I get a 6 inch I have no need for tablet.
as I said we will see about the camera.. it is the camera that will decide the true caliber of this device.
if not that Mate series is still one of the very few devices that have an acceptably battery time, not every one want to have a battery back always with you ..
I am extreme heavy user, with a screen on time with about 8 hours per day sometimes more..
I bought mate 8 only about 3 months ago, and I feel if Mate 8 get EMUI 5.0 it would feel reborn again..so not sure how I will do..
I know from past experience the prices of Mate devices are kind of static so there is no reason to wait 6 months to buy it, if you are going to buy it, buy it as soon as possible since the price will not get lower with time.
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Not worth for now. Its not Samsung that you HAVE TO upgrade ahahha
Mate 8 still my no.1 !

I am waiting on my Phab 2 Pro to come Tuesday..I have the Mate 8, then got Mi Max, and then got Honor Note 8..sold both of them and went back to the Mate 8 only because of 4G coverage and the Mate 8 is definitely a top phone but I wanted a bigger phone that have great specs as well as full LTE coverage..I can honestly say the Mate 8 is probably the best phone I ever had

Agree
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reasons for upgrading would be restricted to: significantly higher gpu performance / double camera. thats it. and if youre a user focussing on those two departments, u wouldnt have gotten the mate 8 in the first place so its kind of a moot point to go from mate 8 to mate 9, unless ure just OCD about having the latest and greatest while not giving a crap about cost ^^
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Too pricey for now. Maybe next year when the price drops. Our Mate 8 will be revitalized once it gets EMUI 5.
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Sure! By end of December, emui 5 for sure

danterape said:
Not worth for now. Its not Samsung that you HAVE TO upgrade ahahha
Mate 8 still my no.1 !
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I paid 300 euros for this Mate 8 yesterday... it was new..only NXT-DL00... but with your help (thanks again!!) I hope to 'convert' it to an International one... I knew there would be a catch for 300...oh well
Mate 9? Hmm maybe next year when the prices drop hahah... the Porsche Edition is definitely NOT worth it if you ask me, that even makes Apple phones seem cheap lol...

No, because I just bought the 8.
I used the Mate2 for over 2 years, because I thought it was a good value.
When the 8 was talked about last summer, I looked at it, but when the price was announced,
I said nope, too expensive. I waited...
Late this summer, with the 9 coming, I started watching the price on the 8 drop. When it reached a
level I thought for me, was a good value, I bought it.
"But, you didn't get the newest software, newest camera bla bla bla."
So? I ran the Mate2 on JB for over a year before LL came around, and still have LL on it now. Latest
and greatest doesn't concern me. As for the camera on the 9? If I really want to take a photograph,
I'll grab my dSLR. I only use the smartphone camera to record work related stuff, mainly close up
photos. I don't play games on my phone, so super duper graphics pixel peeping stuff doesn't concern
me. Oh, 10 years ago, I flashed every new rom that came along for my HTC phones, but things are
so stable today, that to me, a smartphone is a "toaster oven". You turn it on and use it. I don't bother
rooting or anything else. If stock is stable, I leave it alone.
My phone is my job lifeline. All of my service tickets are done on a web based app, as are remote connections
to the machines I work on and monitor. I'm a field service supervisor, so I'm constantly on the phone with
other techs, and factory reps. Around 2,000 minutes on the phone, hundreds of emails, texts, photos, along
with a lot of streaming audio. It has to be a good value, and have a good battery, which is why I got the
Mate2 when I did.
The 9 looks like a good phone, but it is priced like a lot of "flagships"....to high for reality. In a year, if I've
got an itch for something new, when the mate10 is announced, I'll start watching the price of the 9. If it falls
to what I think it is worth to me, I'll buy one.

No, mate 8 was my first Android after iPhone 3,4 and 5 and lumia 930. I liked the big screen of the mate 8 a lot, but i don't like that googles only reason for making android is user data.
And the apps want way to much permissions.
In may i updated to b320. because i didn't get ota updates and i read articles, stating b320 would be the next ota.
Well it wasn't and i didn't get any update since may.
The going back to mui 4.0 routine, is to much for me, i have so many offline maps on the device for example, that it would take several hours to download them again.
And where to go? There isn't any update for mui 4.1 at all, for six month now.
So the main reasons for leaving Huawei is, that i just see regular updates for other regions in the world and nothing here. L29.
I live in Germany and all companies including, huawei, lg, htc samsung only sell the smaller Ram versions here, like 32 gb and 64 next year if i am lucky.
So i am thinking about a wopping 256 gb iphone 7 plus and never messing with small ram and sd card again.

it looks like Huawei will compete with Mi Mix , wow what a dream, maybe it will be what Mi Mix should have been since it have some flaws..such as bad camera.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Huaw...te-9-Pro-to-be-unveiled-November-14th_id87507

No upgrade. The Mate 8 battery life is amazing as it is. Plus, conversion rate to CAD will probably cost $1k after taxes for the top model. If you already own the mate 8, I see no need to upgrade.
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sure.
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I guess maybe I will swap my Mate 8 now for a brand new Xiaomi Mi Mix or Mi Note 2... These phones looks astonishing... And the MIUI...

Will.stay with Mate8 till Mate10 is out

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Will.stay with Mate8 till Mate10 is out
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now THAT sounds like a plan to me
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Will you buy another 6 inch phone.. Mate 10 maybe?

With the mate 10 on the horizon, will you stick with Huawei or a different brand. Could you get a similar spec with a budget Chinese phone like Xiaomi?
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Phablet category will be dead soon since all including mate 10 will go over too 18:9 aspect ratio which means a lot smaller screen area...

blackinfinity said:
Phablet category will be dead soon since all including mate 10 will go over too 18:9 aspect ratio which means a lot smaller screen area...
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We are seeing some big players (Samsung, LG, Google) experimenting with 18:9 (2:1) but it will be down to the consumer i guess if these phones are as popular as previous other aspect ratio models.
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First of, I bought my mate 8 less than a year ago, and have no intention of changing it before 2/3 years. It would be a poor choice of a phone if I felt the need to change it every year.
But if by accident I HAD to change it, I think I would look toward the note note 8 rather than than the mate 10. The plus being stylus and waterproof. And since none of those are things are really must-have, I would most probably look for a cheaper large screen phone. Maybe another used mate 8 or mate 7. Or whatever good occasion I can find.
I mean, I can't really see what the mate 10 would do better.
Battery life ? Haven't seen any real gain for years.
Photo quality ? Some progress, but the mate 8 is more than enough for me.
Raw power ? I don't use it much. Mate 8 has more than enough for years to come.
VR ? It's still not good on a smartphone, mate 8 or otherwise..
What I'm trying ot say is that I'm satisfied by my mate 8. But the question is more "are recent phones bringing anything worth the change ?"
For a few years now, phones makers have been strugling to bring anything new of value to the table. Raw power and screen quality have reached a level where they are already beyond what you need for the use of a smartphone. There has been nothing new in battery for years. Photo quality can still get better, with better low light and/or zoom. But it's far from being enough to motivate a change. And soldity/reliability has been progressing very slowly.
Today, I think I could have a Mate 7 or a mate 10 and barely see the difference in everyday use. Both phone would be smooth, have pretty much the same software (with a few tweaks for the mate 7) same battery life, pretty much same internet speed ... one would take slightly better photo, and that's it.

Both mare 8 and 9 I one of the phones that have aged best. Pocketnow did a video about the 9 recently.
Mate 8 does not feel obsolete at all despite being from 2015

6 inch yes... mate/Huawei no..

nice thread and perfect timing id say, kudos to rhe OP!
after the mate 8 (which i will most likely keep for another year at least, especially since there is nothing interesting on the market atm or in the near future, except maybe the xiaomi mi mix 2), i will not be able to go back to anything smaller than 6 inches. it is just so damn nice to have so much screen real estate! and ive gotten used to the size, everything smaller seems tiny in comparison, whereas my mate 8 just seems "normal" in size
i agree with above posters concerning the 2:1 screen ratio that is becoming more popular lately: the diagonal numbers seem to get larger (i.e. S8+ at 6.2 inches) but the actual screen area is actually identical to the mate 8 with 0.2 inches LESS diagonal screen size! so thats something to keep an eye out for when buying a new phone these days.
looking at the bezels of the mate 8 id say a phone with a 16:9 screen of around 6.4-6.5 inches and sporting razorthin bezels on all four sides would be absolutely perfect in screen/overall size and -to-body-ratio
in retrospect, my mate 8 experience so far (about 17 months ownership) has been quite pleasant! its a great phone, excellent battery life (10h sot on average with a range of 8-12h depending on usage intensity), super solid built (feels like a tank but still very graceful and sexy), awesome screen and lots of real estate on it and last, but not least, fluid stable software.
the only real gripe i have with it is that we are dependant on basically one or two major devs, namely kangvip and hrt team, thats it. otherwise we will be EOL once huawei stops publishing firmware upgrades.
nevertheless, i will keep an eye out for the mate 10 and see what it brings to the table
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YOU BET
In 2010, I started with the Dell Streak 5. Oh the looks I got from people "THAT is your phone?" "What do you need
a screen THAT big". This was in the day that 3.5" was the NORMAL size or a smartphone.
Then, I went with the Samsung Galaxy Note1, then the Mate2, and now the Mate8.
I PREFER the larger screen, mostly because my eyesight isn't what it once was, and, because the larger screen
phones usually have larger batteries.
If they make one with smaller bezels, but not 100% bezel-less, with a 4,000mAH or larger battery, that is about or
a little thicker than the Mate2/8, I'll get one.

My mate 8 still works fine.

p51d007 said:
In 2010, I started with the Dell Streak 5. Oh the looks I got from people "THAT is your phone?" "What do you need
a screen THAT big". This was in the day that 3.5" was the NORMAL size or a smartphone.
Then, I went with the Samsung Galaxy Note1, then the Mate2, and now the Mate8.
I PREFER the larger screen, mostly because my eyesight isn't what it once was, and, because the larger screen
phones usually have larger batteries.
If they make one with smaller bezels, but not 100% bezel-less, with a 4,000mAH or larger battery, that is about or
a little thicker than the Mate2/8, I'll get one.
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haha so true! i still remember when the streak came out, it looked HUGE to me nowadays its on the lower half of screen sizes, hahaha. how times change
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kaceps said:
First of, I bought my mate 8 less than a year ago, and have no intention of changing it before 2/3 years. It would be a poor choice of a phone if I felt the need to change it every year.
But if by accident I HAD to change it, I think I would look toward the note note 8 rather than than the mate 10. The plus being stylus and waterproof. And since none of those are things are really must-have, I would most probably look for a cheaper large screen phone. Maybe another used mate 8 or mate 7. Or whatever good occasion I can find.
I mean, I can't really see what the mate 10 would do better.
Battery life ? Haven't seen any real gain for years.
Photo quality ? Some progress, but the mate 8 is more than enough for me.
Raw power ? I don't use it much. Mate 8 has more than enough for years to come.
VR ? It's still not good on a smartphone, mate 8 or otherwise..
What I'm trying ot say is that I'm satisfied by my mate 8. But the question is more "are recent phones bringing anything worth the change ?"
For a few years now, phones makers have been strugling to bring anything new of value to the table. Raw power and screen quality have reached a level where they are already beyond what you need for the use of a smartphone. There has been nothing new in battery for years. Photo quality can still get better, with better low light and/or zoom. But it's far from being enough to motivate a change. And soldity/reliability has been progressing very slowly.
Today, I think I could have a Mate 7 or a mate 10 and barely see the difference in everyday use. Both phone would be smooth, have pretty much the same software (with a few tweaks for the mate 7) same battery life, pretty much same internet speed ... one would take slightly better photo, and that's it.
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Totally agree with this

vervester said:
With the mate 10 on the horizon, will you stick with Huawei or a different brand. Could you get a similar spec with a budget Chinese phone like Xiaomi?
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i don't stick huawei.
i'll buy xiaomi if they release gooe one.
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i don't stick huawei.
i'll buy xiaomi if they release gooe one.
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yeah im curious about their upcoming mi mix 2, should be interesting

Speculations about Mate 10.
Kirin 970 chipset, 18:9 6-inch 2160x1080px screen, 3D sensing dual cameras.
http://www.gsmarena.com/due_in_the_...will_have_an_edgetoedge_screen-news-26022.php

6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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anwedr said:
6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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we dont i just said its important to consider that with 18:9 screens we actually get less screen area than with 16:9 screens at identical inches.

I think the strategy behind 9:18 is that its different to what the last generation of phones have, it will look a bit different, so seem attractive. We have had super high res screens before for a while (LG G3 etc) but 9:18 is something new. Thing is we keep falling for it :-/
in a perfect world id like something with a similar sized screen to the mate 8, significantly lighter (feels a bit of a tank in the hand if I'm honest) excellent battery life ( 16 SOT) and a camera that could really produce stunning shots in all conditions. Ok, maybe a few years away with all that but the upgrades we now have are pretty marginal and I think the mobile phone companies are clutching at straws in terms of upgrade possibilities with todays technology.
Like most I'm in no rush to upgrade the Mate 8, if rumor is to be believed we will see Android O at some point but I wont hold my breath, having said that, Battery life has took a major hit since upgrading from marshmallow to Nougat.

vervester said:
I think the strategy behind 9:18 is that its different to what the last generation of phones have, it will look a bit different, so seem attractive. We have had super high res screens before for a while (LG G3 etc) but 9:18 is something new. Thing is we keep falling for it :-/
in a perfect world id like something with a similar sized screen to the mate 8, significantly lighter (feels a bit of a tank in the hand if I'm honest) excellent battery life ( 16 SOT) and a camera that could really produce stunning shots in all conditions. Ok, maybe a few years away with all that but the upgrades we now have are pretty marginal and I think the mobile phone companies are clutching at straws in terms of upgrade possibilities with todays technology.
Like most I'm in no rush to upgrade the Mate 8, if rumor is to be believed we will see Android O at some point but I wont hold my breath, having said that, Battery life has took a major hit since upgrading from marshmallow to Nougat.
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mmm yes and no. actually, its our own (the consumer`s) fault: samsung, LG and others did their market research including consumer questioning and the result was this: consumer wants bigger screens but without the hassle of a phone too wide to hold in one hand! solution? easy: make the screens longer but stick to the same width! thus we get 18:9 screens, voila
nice benefit for the manufacturers / for marketing: diagonal size in inches increases by a LOT (i.e. friggin 6.2 inches diagonal on S8+) but screen real estate doesnt increase as much as with 16:9 screens! (again: mate 8 with 6.0 inch screen has same display area as S8+ with "bigger" 6.2 inch screen )

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mmm yes and no. actually, its our own (the consumer`s) fault: samsung, LG and others did their market research including consumer questioning and the result was this: consumer wants bigger screens but without the hassle of a phone too wide to hold in one hand! solution? easy: make the screens longer but stick to the same width! thus we get 18:9 screens, viola
nice benefit: diagonal size in inches increases by a LOT (i.e. friggin 6.2 inches diagonal on S8+) but screen real estate doesnt increase as much as with 16:9 screens! (again: mate 8 with 6.0 inch screen has same display area as S8+ with "bigger" 6.2 inch screen )
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That's a fair comment, and I can see why a narrower phone with similar screen size would appeal to some. Also I guess it's a bit more pocketable. Personally tho I like 16:9 but guess I wouldn't rule out something slightly easier in the pocket.
Xiaomi Chiron anyone?
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/07/rumor-xiaomi-chiron-flagship-sport-6-inch-189-screen.html
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anwedr said:
6"? Yes.
Huawei? No. The build and quality are fantastic. Though, EMUI still needs a lot of bug fixes.
I didn't realize people cared (so much) about aspect ratio over hardware and software.
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18:9 is the new cancer that we have to live with.. People are stupid they think 6 inches with 18:9 is bigger then on 16:9 for instance..
screeb area is actually less with the same inch size on 18:9.
People still when talking about phone sizes mostly talk about "inches" but you need to know the aspect ratio now also..

A word on the 9

Had this device quite a few times. Always liked it.
Ultimately moved to the s8+ but had an issue with it so while waiting for my Note 8 I bought the Mate 9 again... And I FORGOT JUST HOW FANTASTIC THIS DEVICE IS! Fast, clear, solid, inexpensive, fantastic battery (I feel a sense of security that I FORGOT!) And I dont know how Apple and Samsung (including on the Note 8) talk like they have the best camera app when this app is so by far the best. I can do Bokeh without zooming in (unique) and then adjust, AND I can uniquely pick the aperture which you can't do on apple or Note 8. It's by far the most creative.
Software has improved since I last had it. It is now a rocket. Love it. And fast charging. Really fast.
There's nothing it doesn't have that I actually miss or need.
So I'm keeping this and selling the Samsungs!!! And I'm going to wait for the Mate 10 which I anticipate will be the best device of 2017.

I like you, am continually dazzled every time I return to the Mate 9. So fluid, so swishy, so quick.
I cannot wait to go out and buy the Mate 10.
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End of the day, device on since 7am, full day using it, and I still have 23% at nearly 7pm. My Samsungs need juice by 3pm. Love it.

And the only phone that can do this (Bokeh without a zoom)

True, the Mate 9 is the real champion, shame it's name isn't as big as Galaxy's, but well the Mate 10 looking good , can't wait for it, second phone i'll preorder almost for sure.

Derpling said:
True, the Mate 9 is the real champion, shame it's name isn't as big as Galaxy's, but well the Mate 10 looking good , can't wait for it, second phone i'll preorder almost for sure.
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IMO I rather have the phone be underrated, compare to others, that's what gives it the special kick, can't stand it when all around you everyone has a galaxy or an iPhone, I like to be different from the rest

Mate 8 and 9 have been the best overall phone in my personal opinion.
Does everything well.

I really needed a new phone, my LG G3 had a broken screen for the 3rd time. I wanted to wait for the Mate 10, but no real idea on pricing or when it would be available, same with the LG V30. So I had to do something and one of my decisions is the ability to root the device. Samsung has been making that harder and harder, same for LG. So I decided the Mate 9 would do for the next year or so.
Also, this trend towards long skinny phones is not to my liking. I guess there are a lot of people turning their phones sideways to watch videos and play games. I prefer to have a little bit wider phone and the Mate 9 is perfect.
I am extremely happy that I bought this phone, it is by far the best phone I have owned.

Always had iPhone as daily driver and would get a Android from time to time to play around, had S8+, Note 9, Pixel XL and always went back to the Mate 9. Packed with features and options, I love dual sim, Leica camera is awesome, I LOVE IR blaster, IMO the best/most underrated phone. Can't wait for Mate 10, I hope they keep the IR blaster!

Get one before they're gone?

My Nexus 5x was replaced with a refurb by Google and now the refurb is starting to act up, so I'm of course thinking new phone. I've always wanted to have the latest (non-Samsung!) flagship type phone and was looking at a OnePlus 5T and similar ones, but after going to a store and looking at similar-size 6" phones, I decided that the "phablet" phones are just not what I want. I like the way the 5x fits my pocket, goes nicely into a small bag on my bike, etc. Plus I wouldn't be able any more to laugh at people when they pull out some humongous phone! I considered the Pixel 3 even though it's a bit smaller (the size of my Nexus 5), but it's overpriced IMO and my recent experience with the 5x doesn't make me want to trust Google again.
So I was really glad to find the Honor 8, which has all of the standard expected features plus my must-haves that are not on a lot of cheaper phones such as NFC, fingerprint reader on the back, at least 32Gb storage, and others. The camera is not a big deal to me, but it seem like a good one. The best thing about it is that it's still available for purchase at a good price! With the rate that some mfrs -- especially Huawei -- seem to churn out new phones, many drop out of production/availability in just over a year or so. It might not be in the "flagship" category, but when I look realistically at what I use a smartphone for, the Honor 8 checks all the boxes and then some.
Unless someone wants to warn me off from this phone, I'll probably be ordering one within a few days!

The camera is one of the best. The performance is very good. Some people say that they are having problems with the gyroscope, but mine works perfectly.

Although I love my Honor 8, I would advice going for something like the Redmi Note 4 (SD625). It has much better battery life and custom ROMs will be supported for much longer. Hence a more future proof device.

The only thing i dont like about this phone are the very slow updates/patches and the nearly dead custom rom development. But I think at least the custom rom development should be a bit better after the phone receives the official oreo update that makes it easier for developers to create custom roms. Everything else about this phone is absolutely perfect, like the great camera, performance, etc. The battery isnt super great, but above average/average in my opinion.

If you don't care much about development, this device is really good for it's price. I paid $260 for mine 64GB blue from Newegg.
If you want development, I recommend OP5T or OP5 although those will be much more expensive and larger.

What's it going for these days?
I'm planning on keeping it for another year as long as it receives patches.
It's still fast and keeps up with newer flagship devices.
Only thing that annoys me if the Bluetooth disconnecting all of a sudden.

For a bit more, you can get the Honor 9 which will get Oreo and after that it's already custom rom future proof.

Leon Lambra said:
For a bit more, you can get the Honor 9 which will get Oreo and after that it's already custom rom future proof.
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Honor 8 will get it, too.
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But I agree that Honor 9 is better

Leon Lambra said:
For a bit more, you can get the Honor 9 which will get Oreo and after that it's already custom rom future proof.
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Honor 8 will get it, too.
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But I agree that Honor 9 is better
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Honor 9 is just a refreshed honor 8, like cars get facelifts.. in my opinion its not worth it to get honor 9 for the price, at least in my country. You get 90% of honor 8 in there. And that front fingerprint reader.. pass.. haha.
Pure Honor 8

alen1901 said:
Honor 9 is just a refreshed honor 8, like cars get facelifts.. in my opinion its not worth it to get honor 9 for the price, at least in my country. You get 90% of honor 8 in there. And that front fingerprint reader.. pass.. haha.
Pure Honor 8
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I didn't say it was worth the price. I just said that it is better than Honor 8. Of course that fingerprint reader location ain't so good, but that phone is slightly faster and has some other improvements. iPhone 4 isn't better than iPhone X because it has a headphone jack.

I just mentioned the honor 9 because right now in my country, it's just 50 bucks more compared to the honor 8, which for me would be a no brainier then, it's the overall better device.

Leon Lambra said:
I just mentioned the honor 9 because right now in my country, it's just 50 bucks more compared to the honor 8, which for me would be a no brainier then, it's the overall better device.
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In here it is like that but I won't upgrade my Honor 8 to it.

alen1901 said:
Honor 9 is just a refreshed honor 8, like cars get facelifts.. in my opinion its not worth it to get honor 9 for the price, at least in my country. You get 90% of honor 8 in there. And that front fingerprint reader.. pass.. haha.
Pure Honor 8
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I agree. Plus Honor 9 isn't a true world unlocked phone like the 8 was.
The 9 has less UTMS/LTE bands vs the Honor 8?.. And the smaller screen and front fingerprint reader..What's up with that?

tiguy99 said:
I agree. Plus Honor 9 isn't a true world unlocked phone like the 8 was.
The 9 has less UTMS/LTE bands vs the Honor 8?.. And the smaller screen and front fingerprint reader..What's up with that?
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With the screen size and front fingerprint scanner location they are aiming for a different type of customers. A lot of people prefer smaller screens and front fingerprint scanner. You can unlock ur device with fingerprint without lifting the device up with the scanner at the front. I still prefer it in the back (apart from galaxy s8 and note 8 since that positioning is awful).

This is also something I think about!
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...

bvrulez said:
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...
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Expect no one apart from you would actually mind those things since it is a pretty common thing with phones. Some people care about the performance and other things as well.

Of course people mind. That's why iPhones and Samsung phones have had a physical button on the front. It allows you to switch the device on and off with the thumb which isn't possible otherwise (exept if you include a software off button like the one the HTC has in the navigation bar).

bvrulez said:
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...
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Sounds like LG G6 might be your best bet. But all phones are getting bigger which is a trend I'd wish stopped.

Ascertion said:
Sounds like LG G6 might be your best bet. But all phones are getting bigger which is a trend I'd wish stopped.
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Not the Galaxy s8. It's really a small device with a big screen, easy to use with one hand comparing to others. I would have bought it instantly if finger sensor wasn't screwed. Waiting for Galaxy s9. It's actually second Galaxy phone i considered to buy, the first one was Galaxy s2 haha. And now Galaxy s8/s9.
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bvrulez said:
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...
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I actually think this phone is small and regret that i bought honor 8 instead of oneplus 3T which is a little bit bigger , I really don t mind that i have to press the button to open it , i had an lg g flex 2 and yea i liked that double tap feature but i can live without it , the thing that really bothers me is EMUI , it just sucks , that s why i regret that i bought this one instead of the oneplus but changed the theme and put the pixel launcher and now i can live with it , oh and for the guy that started this topic , go for oneplus 5T man , it s the most complete phone and cheaper than most of the flagships , if you have the money pixel 2

Mate 10 Pro

Hello guys,
I know this has been done several times but I'll drop a few lines.
Like everyone here, I'm a Mate 9 user; 4GB/64GB Mocha Brown (of course). I've been in love with it but decided to skip its successor and go for the subsequent version (Mate 20).
Unfortunately, due to some financial reasons I realized it's better I get any one for now. Almost went for P20 Pro but picked the Mate 10 Pro (Mocha Brown also) 6GB/128GB for just over $500.
First annoying thing was I had to stash away my 128GB SanDisk Extreme PLUS microSDXC.
Then the most annoying thing, the glass back makes it feel cheap. The Mate 9 has a very premium feel to it but the Mate 10 Pro is a nay in that department.
Overall big improvements in camera, task execution, beautiful punchy AMOLED, better SoC & GPU (especially when playing PUBG) and battery lasts longer - or maybe cos it's new but I expect a 10nm to consume less than a 14nm SoC.
Mate 9 is brighter, speaker seems louder, wider screen.
To be honest, I would have gone for the Mate 10 if I could get my hands on the 6GB but I couldn't wait another 2 weeks to ship from China + I don't want to risk rebranding.
My wife is using an S7 edge & I told her she'll take over the Mate 9 when the Mate 10 Pro comes but I told her to take the Mate 10 Pro.
Regardless of the improvements it doesn't feel good in my hands - even LG V10 feels more premium.

thanks for the update. Im also mate 9 user, and Im planing to buy a p20 or mate 10 pro. I would like to stay away from huawei since their system is giving me a lot of problems, but I dont know what else to buy :/

Brontok said:
thanks for the update. Im also mate 9 user, and Im planing to buy a p20 or mate 10 pro. I would like to stay away from huawei since their system is giving me a lot of problems, but I dont know what else to buy :/
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You should buy P20 because their specs are almost the same with Mate 10 Pro but there is a big improvement in the camera (which is much better than the Mate 9).
About the feel, almost all phones are made with glass back these days so, it's the same all through.
I just wish the specs were put into the Mate 9 body; feels good.

I'm torn as well...being a U.S. phone user, I have had GREAT usage and pretty much NO problems with the 3 mates I've had (2,8,9), but after our government tossed Huawei out, I just don't see them spending the time & resources to support the phones via updates, in the U.S. market. I picked up an Essential PH-1 on Amazon a couple weeks ago, and so far, haven't had any problems, and it got the update to 9 immediately. Even with all of the talk of signal issues, 3 weeks in, I've had no drop outs or any problems at all. I've been a steady fan of the Huawei phones, but going forward, I don't know...I just don't want to screw with an international version, unlocking, rooting, flashing etc. Those days are behind me. It's just "a phone"...I run them stock and after work, I don't even touch them.

p51d007 said:
I'm torn as well...being a U.S. phone user, I have had GREAT usage and pretty much NO problems with the 3 mates I've had (2,8,9), but after our government tossed Huawei out, I just don't see them spending the time & resources to support the phones via updates, in the U.S. market. I picked up an Essential PH-1 on Amazon a couple weeks ago, and so far, haven't had any problems, and it got the update to 9 immediately. Even with all of the talk of signal issues, 3 weeks in, I've had no drop outs or any problems at all. I've been a steady fan of the Huawei phones, but going forward, I don't know...I just don't want to screw with an international version, unlocking, rooting, flashing etc. Those days are behind me. It's just "a phone"...I run them stock and after work, I don't even touch them.
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Well no more rooting since huawei has stopped giving away bootloader unlock codes. Anyway, I bought a p20.. So far I have mixed feelings. It is noticeably faster than the mate 9, but the front camera is trash. No manual mode, meaning nothing you can change about the photo, and each snd every photo is waaaay blown out. You end up looking like a ghost..