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Help me decide!

Hey guys! So i've narrowed down my choices for a new phone:
Huawei Mate 7 or Xperia Z3. Both are great sexy phones but I like the larger screen, fingerprint, and less bezel on the mate 7. Both have around the same screen on time (around 10 hrs).
For Mate 7:
- Screen looks washed out compared to other flagships, Z3 gets brighter
+ Bigger screen, smaller bezels
+ Fingerprint scanner
? Kirin 925 (I've heard its worse than the 801 and has lags and micro stutters when scrolling in browser, is the phone laggy?)
For Xperia Z3:
+ Bright, colorful screen
- Smaller screen, bigger bezels
+ Front facing stereo speakers
+ Faster updates (It's nice but I don't really mind that much about updates, as long as the mate7 eventually gets lollipop)
Is there some way to adjust the colors and make it more saturated/vivid on the Mate 7? and are the reports of the Mate 7 lagging in browser etc true? Please help me decide what you would go for if you had the choice between these two

It would depend on how you would use the phone. If you are just a regular user and a non techy one. Mate7 is good enough. But keep in mind that Emui has no app drawer. Updates are slow compared to Sony. Limited custom Roms if you are in to that. I would suggest reading the owner's impressions thread to see how others like the phone and the pros and cons for them.
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Easy Computer said:
It would depend on how you would use the phone. If you are just a regular user and a non techy one. Mate7 is good enough. But keep in mind that Emui has no app drawer. Updates are slow compared to Sony. Limited custom Roms if you are in to that. I would suggest reading the owner's impressions thread to see how others like the phone and the pros and cons for them.
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Thanks. I primarily use my phone for social stuff like Facebook and Whatsapp (though barely use the camera), listening to Music, and heavy gaming, like GTA San Andreas (which i've heard runs extremely well on max settings (because of the mali GPU in the mate 7) compared to Snapdragon devices, where they lag on max,) and Asphalt 8. I don't care about updates or custom roms ever since Xposed. Can always stick an AOSP based launcher on top, and that would probably be the first thing I do if I do this device. Don't care about updates that much. My main, biggest gripe of the Huawei is the screen color saturation, they look bland compared to other flagships. Anybody figure out anything to fix that? My Nexus 4 had the same problem, but after using a custom kernel with gamma controls the screen just felt like something else completely. I got spoiled by the beautifully saturated colors of my N4 after calibration, and don't want a bland screen. The Z3 is better in this regard - its not the most saturated screen but its miles better than the mate 7 in that regard. Why can't Huawei calibrate their screens properly out of the box!

Colors are great, Screen doesn't look washed at all. First go and see the phone live in a showroom.
The phone it's not laggy.
But if you are a heavy gamer don't expect to get 10 hours screen on time with neither one. 5-6 hours maybe, and with brightness set on auto.
8 hours screen on time it't the best that I got with mate7( dual sim version).
Sony are not quick to update their phones also, just one month ago they updated z3 to lolipop.

The warmth/colour tone can be adjusted via settings slider
Screen is excellent, my last phone was a z2

roy8846 said:
The warmth/colour tone can be adjusted via settings slider
Screen is excellent, my last phone was a z2
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I saw the Mate 7 irl for some reason I think it was washed out... maybe it's just my imagination :silly: i'll try to check it out again in a store

In all honesty wait for Mate 8 it will be released soon most likely.
And also I heard news today that Note 5 most likely will be released in July too...
Mate 7 will most likely drop even more in price for that reason It might be attractive for some though.
It still a good phone for the price.

If you wait for a bit more... You can get almost all of the last years flagships for less after july or august.
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Please tell me after Note 5 and mate 8 and D8 what the hell other devices are worth waiting for ?
as what I know there are known.. unless you want an iphone 6s
The reason Note 5 will be released more early is that they want to get it out before Iphone 6s the big version.
Also Samsung have said the development has gone faster the expected with Note 5.
Do you mean paper releases like oneplus1 ?
or the new bezelless oppo find ?

Easy Computer said:
If you wait for a bit more... You can get almost all of the last years flagships for less after july or august.
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The prices have already come down enough for them to be in my price range for all of last year's flagships, so that doesn't matter to me anymore. Its just these three phones which I have narrowed it down to because of my personal preferences
If some sort of confirmation or leak about a huawei nexus, or mate 8 or oneplus two gets released by the end of June then I think i'll wait if I like, otherwise i'll just take one of these phones, because right now i've been with a Lenovo A706 (some cheap budget android phone that came free with my new laptop) because my nexus 4 crapped out on me a year ago, and this lenovo is horrendously slow, bad battery life bad everything basically :laugh:
Note 5 (and iPhone 6/6S) will be too expensive for my price range (my price range is ~1700 AED), and I haven't liked Samsung's designs since the S2/Galaxy Nexus, because of the colored, pattern bezels, (just want deep black) which is also the main reason why I won't consider the Note 4, even though it has better specs overall (and that LOVELY amoled screen) and is in my price range. I'm very picky with my devices, because I only change once every 3-4 years.

How many of you upgrading to Honor 7 ?

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Meta...-phase-detection-camera-starts-at-322_id70977

Not sure .. rumors have that the dual sim version has the second sim slot as also the micro sd slot - so you have to choose. The H60-L12 can do dual sim and micro sd.
Of course that could be outdated information ..
The H60 is fast enough for everyday use. Would love to see some custom kernels built though for better battery life.

no thanks, slow updates is not for me.

I won't upgrade too....
I'm think on an upgrade, but to what?

mrengineer said:
no thanks, slow updates is not for me.
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Ditto!! I really used to like huawei but slow updates and not open sourcing drivers kind of killed it for me! I also don't like how different emui is from aosp code, due to which its really hard for the devs to support the device.
So no more huawei for me! I'm gonna stick with Qualcomm from now on.
I really wish these companies were more like Texas Instruments which had up to date drivers. Too bad it moved out of chipset buisness

And me too, i was waiting for Honor 7 Presentation, and was expecting smth more interesting. Yes, new cam is cool, finger sensor, yeah, but that's all. Cant see the reasone to switch from Honor 6 to Honor 7. But i'm going to switch to smth else, and now just need to decide, would it be Meizu MX5 or Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML). I'm thinking about Asus, but still waiting for official price for Meizu

The following are upgrades for Honor 7 over Honor 6 :
- Built quality
- Top of the line rear camera
- Top of line Finger print scanner that also has touch panel functions
- 64bit A53 chip clocked at 2.2Ghz. (Lesser battery consuming and around 12K higher antutu score compared to Honor 6).
- Better display (hence you can also get that tap to wake feature)
- Has a dedicated hardware key for voice control
- Faster charging that Honor 6.
- NFC
- Bluetooth 4.1
Only cons would be that phone is 10mm thicker, as well as don't seem to have three slots as the Honor 6 L02 had.
I like the phone and find it as a good upgrade which is tuned to all the new features as opposed to being a after thought software upgrade. But as is usual the phone will take couple months before you can buy it internationally at proper price. By that time, Huawei will release the Huawei D8 and i would wait for that before i finalize to buy the Honor 7. Just don't want to get the feeling of Huawei releasing some heavy mind blowing beast on Huawei D8 that makes the Honor 7 feel outdated.
The other issue is also that Honor 6 has dropped about 100$ in last couple months, from resale value point of view i would sell it off before it drops further. Ofcourse my use of phone is nearing a year and this doesn't apply to others.

I won't upgrade too, i focus on upcoming windows 10 phone.

I only just got mine, but even still, I would not upgrade to the Honor 7. If Windows 10 got released for all phones, I may go back to my Ativ S. If this lollipop update goes OK and we get a decent AOSP/CM rom out of it, I am just going to keep my Honor 6 and try compiling Slim or Omni for this phone. If it is a bad update like some of the previous Huawei updates I have had, I will wait for the 2015 LG nexus and get that.
I still feel like I should have stuck with my resolution I made after the u8800 and not bought Huawei again, but here we are.

i will NOT buy huawei again or any Chinese phone .
i will stay with phone supported well .
i will wait for Sony Or Samsung Or new Nexus phone .

Well obviously those interested in plain stock android, then Chinese phones aren't for you. Even One plus One switched to Oxygen rom. Unless you buy a phone with a huge user base then obviously you will find more rom developers and get all the CM, OMNI rom and so on.
If you want skinned android but more faster updates, then you should buy the chinese version and they get updates every 15/30 days.

warea said:
Well obviously those interested in plain stock android, then Chinese phones aren't for you. Even One plus One switched to Oxygen rom. Unless you buy a phone with a huge user base then obviously you will find more rom developers and get all the CM, OMNI rom and so on.
If you want skinned android but more faster updates, then you should buy the chinese version and they get updates every 15/30 days.
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even huawei china set doesn't receive updates every 15/30 days.

mrengineer said:
even huawei china set doesn't receive updates every 15/30 days.
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Im using china version and always got updates with that frequency. In fact just got an OTA update today.

What im not liking or skeptical on the Honor 7:
- The phone does not have the sexyness of P8 which is on a whole different level, atleast for me.
- The camera has an ugly bump, but can be excused that its a new 20mp lens and to differentiate camera from fingerprint.
- The phone is 10mm thicker than honor 6 as well as larger size, but yet battery is still 3100mAh.
- I am skeptical if those advertised voice control features and some other new features like an auto useful information provider, which are being shown as main features on China advertising of the Honor 7, would function in English. That the control switch is on the hardware does mean there will be a English version of the app, but also means buying the Chinese version makes some of them features useless. Will have to wait for handson reviews.
According to techradar:
Update: We've spoken to Huawei and confirmed that the Honor 7 will be available in Europe later this year.
Huawei also told us that there will be certain revisions to the hardware and software for the European market, so the specifications below might not reflect what we'll see later in the year.
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- Whether GPU is too outdated for 2015 phone. I don't play games but GPU does effect battery life in important aspects like browsing, as well as responsible for stutter. For a Honor 6 upgrade which was underdog beast back in 2014, the upgrade to Honor 7 should have also upgraded the chip to something that meets upper high end on an underdog level.
- The screen has a very noticeable black border that feels like even larger than on the Honor 6.
Having to pick between P8 and H7, it seems to come down to the fingerprint scanner (which is more advanced & more features than that on Mate7), larger battery, and the pricing. The camera of P8 is known for high quality and it remains to see if Honor 7 has their 20mp camera optimized enough to take full potential of the lens. See H7 camera samples: http://weibo.com/2776631980/Cp6kWbc...57185170404021&type=comment#_rnd1435820156571

ronieta said:
I won't upgrade too....
I'm think on an upgrade, but to what?
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LG Nexus 2015
5,2" etc..

Honor 7 unboxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RtoY4C_TL8

Go for oneplus two..
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Last Chinese phone for me unless Chinese companies start supporting developers. Probably I'll buy a nexus after 2 years. As this phone will be good enough till then.

not Honor 7, thinking of OnePlue 2.

MX5 vs Honor 7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_xHV0fjKa4

Will you update to Mate 9 ?

Huawei Mate 9 have been officially presented, did it meet your expectations will you upgrade to it from your mate 8 ?

For me, it's a No
The pro version is simply too expensive and I personally dislike the front button
The normal version, camera aside, is more software improvement than hardware. For me the double leica camera is not enough reason for changing

jborbonv said:
For me, it's a No
The pro version is simply too expensive and I personally dislike the front button
The normal version, camera aside, is more software improvement than hardware. For me the double leica camera is not enough reason for changing
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Good said, I agree with you, they have done a lot with the software this year, the physical look on mate 9 looks very uninspiring, even their honor 8 looks superior, I would prefer the same back as honor 8.
The camera bump looks disgusting.. it is much about how the camere will live up to the expectations.
I wish it had 3 in one sim/sd slot like they have in some honor devices, most people most use SD card so then they can not use the dual sim functionality.
i am disspointed there is no amoled screen, to be honest I expected 2k amoled this time.. to make it daydream and VR ready.
They could make the smartphone thicker to make bigger battery to compensate for a more high resolution screen and also to get rid of the camera bump.
Personally I have not decided what to buy, it is this against Mi Mix for me, mi mix have **** camera.. that is the main difference..I also think EMUI 5.0 is better in the software department then MIUI.
I wish the price would be little better.
I do not like the Porshe version that much despite the price, 5.5 is way to small, I had a 5.5 before and it is a big difference in experience during the 3 month I had it I bought a tablet, when I get a 6 inch I have no need for tablet.
as I said we will see about the camera.. it is the camera that will decide the true caliber of this device.
if not that Mate series is still one of the very few devices that have an acceptably battery time, not every one want to have a battery back always with you ..
I am extreme heavy user, with a screen on time with about 8 hours per day sometimes more..
I bought mate 8 only about 3 months ago, and I feel if Mate 8 get EMUI 5.0 it would feel reborn again..so not sure how I will do..
I know from past experience the prices of Mate devices are kind of static so there is no reason to wait 6 months to buy it, if you are going to buy it, buy it as soon as possible since the price will not get lower with time.

Just for cpu upgrade, I won't upgrade to Mate 9
Porche edition, out of reach

You should become their designer..hehehe
blackinfinity said:
Good said, I agree with you, they have done a lot with the software this year, the physical look on mate 9 looks very uninspiring, even their honor 8 looks superior, I would prefer the same back as honor 8.
The camera bump looks disgusting.. it is much about how the camere will live up to the expectations.
I wish it had 3 in one sim/sd slot like they have in some honor devices, most people most use SD card so then they can not use the dual sim functionality.
i am disspointed there is no amoled screen, to be honest I expected 2k amoled this time.. to make it daydream and VR ready.
They could make the smartphone thicker to make bigger battery to compensate for a more high resolution screen and also to get rid of the camera bump.
Personally I have not decided what to buy, it is this against Mi Mix for me, mi mix have **** camera.. that is the main difference..I also think EMUI 5.0 is better in the software department then MIUI.
I wish the price would be little better.
I do not like the Porshe version that much despite the price, 5.5 is way to small, I had a 5.5 before and it is a big difference in experience during the 3 month I had it I bought a tablet, when I get a 6 inch I have no need for tablet.
as I said we will see about the camera.. it is the camera that will decide the true caliber of this device.
if not that Mate series is still one of the very few devices that have an acceptably battery time, not every one want to have a battery back always with you ..
I am extreme heavy user, with a screen on time with about 8 hours per day sometimes more..
I bought mate 8 only about 3 months ago, and I feel if Mate 8 get EMUI 5.0 it would feel reborn again..so not sure how I will do..
I know from past experience the prices of Mate devices are kind of static so there is no reason to wait 6 months to buy it, if you are going to buy it, buy it as soon as possible since the price will not get lower with time.
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Not worth for now. Its not Samsung that you HAVE TO upgrade ahahha
Mate 8 still my no.1 !

I am waiting on my Phab 2 Pro to come Tuesday..I have the Mate 8, then got Mi Max, and then got Honor Note 8..sold both of them and went back to the Mate 8 only because of 4G coverage and the Mate 8 is definitely a top phone but I wanted a bigger phone that have great specs as well as full LTE coverage..I can honestly say the Mate 8 is probably the best phone I ever had

Agree
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reasons for upgrading would be restricted to: significantly higher gpu performance / double camera. thats it. and if youre a user focussing on those two departments, u wouldnt have gotten the mate 8 in the first place so its kind of a moot point to go from mate 8 to mate 9, unless ure just OCD about having the latest and greatest while not giving a crap about cost ^^
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Too pricey for now. Maybe next year when the price drops. Our Mate 8 will be revitalized once it gets EMUI 5.
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Sure! By end of December, emui 5 for sure

danterape said:
Not worth for now. Its not Samsung that you HAVE TO upgrade ahahha
Mate 8 still my no.1 !
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I paid 300 euros for this Mate 8 yesterday... it was new..only NXT-DL00... but with your help (thanks again!!) I hope to 'convert' it to an International one... I knew there would be a catch for 300...oh well
Mate 9? Hmm maybe next year when the prices drop hahah... the Porsche Edition is definitely NOT worth it if you ask me, that even makes Apple phones seem cheap lol...

No, because I just bought the 8.
I used the Mate2 for over 2 years, because I thought it was a good value.
When the 8 was talked about last summer, I looked at it, but when the price was announced,
I said nope, too expensive. I waited...
Late this summer, with the 9 coming, I started watching the price on the 8 drop. When it reached a
level I thought for me, was a good value, I bought it.
"But, you didn't get the newest software, newest camera bla bla bla."
So? I ran the Mate2 on JB for over a year before LL came around, and still have LL on it now. Latest
and greatest doesn't concern me. As for the camera on the 9? If I really want to take a photograph,
I'll grab my dSLR. I only use the smartphone camera to record work related stuff, mainly close up
photos. I don't play games on my phone, so super duper graphics pixel peeping stuff doesn't concern
me. Oh, 10 years ago, I flashed every new rom that came along for my HTC phones, but things are
so stable today, that to me, a smartphone is a "toaster oven". You turn it on and use it. I don't bother
rooting or anything else. If stock is stable, I leave it alone.
My phone is my job lifeline. All of my service tickets are done on a web based app, as are remote connections
to the machines I work on and monitor. I'm a field service supervisor, so I'm constantly on the phone with
other techs, and factory reps. Around 2,000 minutes on the phone, hundreds of emails, texts, photos, along
with a lot of streaming audio. It has to be a good value, and have a good battery, which is why I got the
Mate2 when I did.
The 9 looks like a good phone, but it is priced like a lot of "flagships"....to high for reality. In a year, if I've
got an itch for something new, when the mate10 is announced, I'll start watching the price of the 9. If it falls
to what I think it is worth to me, I'll buy one.

No, mate 8 was my first Android after iPhone 3,4 and 5 and lumia 930. I liked the big screen of the mate 8 a lot, but i don't like that googles only reason for making android is user data.
And the apps want way to much permissions.
In may i updated to b320. because i didn't get ota updates and i read articles, stating b320 would be the next ota.
Well it wasn't and i didn't get any update since may.
The going back to mui 4.0 routine, is to much for me, i have so many offline maps on the device for example, that it would take several hours to download them again.
And where to go? There isn't any update for mui 4.1 at all, for six month now.
So the main reasons for leaving Huawei is, that i just see regular updates for other regions in the world and nothing here. L29.
I live in Germany and all companies including, huawei, lg, htc samsung only sell the smaller Ram versions here, like 32 gb and 64 next year if i am lucky.
So i am thinking about a wopping 256 gb iphone 7 plus and never messing with small ram and sd card again.

it looks like Huawei will compete with Mi Mix , wow what a dream, maybe it will be what Mi Mix should have been since it have some flaws..such as bad camera.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Huaw...te-9-Pro-to-be-unveiled-November-14th_id87507

No upgrade. The Mate 8 battery life is amazing as it is. Plus, conversion rate to CAD will probably cost $1k after taxes for the top model. If you already own the mate 8, I see no need to upgrade.
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sure.
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I guess maybe I will swap my Mate 8 now for a brand new Xiaomi Mi Mix or Mi Note 2... These phones looks astonishing... And the MIUI...

Will.stay with Mate8 till Mate10 is out

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Will.stay with Mate8 till Mate10 is out
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Mate 10

Anyone watching the keynote? I really love my mate 9 but I'm already doing my financials, mate 10 Pro on the way!!!

I prefer mate 10 with the headphone jack and microsd card slot. Also I don't really like the 18:9 ratio... but I still need time to consider.

I am going back to Nokia after my mate 9... EMUI sucks.

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I am going back to Nokia after my mate 9... EMUI sucks.
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HAHA! Good luck with that! Why does EMUI suck tho? I think it's really good... Have fun with Nokia

I really want to see the LTE band support of the Chinese model. I need Band 41, and for some reason even though they had support for it for non-Chinese Mate 9's, they don't for Mate 10's.
Regardless I have to buy one. After all, my business depends on it

The new mate 10 versions are a disaster. If they combined them into one phone at the price of around 600 bucks it would kill all other phones like this just meh.

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The new mate 10 versions are a disaster. If they combined them into one phone at the price of around 600 bucks it would kill all other phones like this just meh.
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Yes.
I don't know what they were thinking for those design/specs/features decisions.
No matter which one you take - Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro, there are trade-offs that are not acceptable - at all.
I will keep checking on xdadevelopers to see everyone's feedback on the Mate 9 with Oreo (once that is rolled out).
Based on that, I may go pick up a Mate 9.
Otherwise, I have money that I had (planned) to spend on a Mate 10 (16:9 version) - but now, I am not sure it is worth it.
One last thing. Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
Too many compromises for me to swallow - if I am expected to pay flagship prices for this.

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Yes.
I don't know what they were thinking for those design/specs/features decisions.
No matter which one you take - Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro, there are trade-offs that are not acceptable - at all.
I will keep checking on xdadevelopers to see everyone's feedback on the Mate 9 with Oreo (once that is rolled out).
Based on that, I may go pick up a Mate 9.
Otherwise, I have money that I had (planned) to spend on a Mate 10 (16:9 version) - but now, I am not sure it is worth it.
One last thing. Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
Too many compromises for me to swallow - if I am expected to pay flagship prices for this.
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Mate 9 is good if you can get it for a good price. I wouldn't pay more than 400 for mate 9. The biggest advantage this phones have is their battery and on this 1080p display on mate 9 it will last u 7 hours min. No other phone can do that. Software support is lacking even though you really don't need the newest all the time since there will always be bugs and flaws. Gaming is great even if the GPU is weaker then it's competition. Display is good on accuracy but you need to play a bit with it and set it more to red tint zone since it is naturally set to too much blue. Overall good phone with it's flaws like any other.

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When the Mate 9 came out, I wanted to go for the pro cos of the amoled screen, but disliked it for two reasons (front-facing fps and smaller screen size). Now, I wanted to go for the mate 10 and they switch the location of the fps.
I'm in a bind;
1. I hate fps on front so it has to be the pro for me
2. As an audiophile, I love wired headsets (pro doesn't have it) so, Mate 10
3. I want a 6GB ram
4. I want an oled screen but just found out that the Mate 10 screen has 499 ppi while the pro has 402 ppi which means that the Mate 10 is sharper but the pro has more vivid colours.
This leaves me in a conundrum cos each phone has something I dislike and like.
I would have loved the pro as it is, with its features but have a 3.5mm audio jack, and at least a 499ppi

I feel all what you feel? Idiot decisions. I really don't know which one to go for? And it's making me dislike both. Damn

Over all I think there many nice, some subtle, improvements. Worry a little about the AI. Especially as data is gathered about you.
My Chinese version of Mate 9 has 6GB ram. Will there be a similar Chinese Version of Mate 10? Don't know why only offer 4GB Mate 10.
How does performance compare for 4GB vs 6GB on Mate 9? Not interested in pro version. Hate 18:9 ratio. Too thin. More like candy bar...
Might get Mate 10 although not currently offered in US.

Unbelievable, after hyping it up so much, this is the best Huawei can do. I love the mate 9 and was looking forward to the Mate 10 but with all the [email protected] they are doing with this release, I probably will wait till next year for something better. I got to say this is one of the more disappointing releases ever.

To be honest, i came here to see the opinion of mate 9 users about mate 10, because i thoughts it is really bad... i was thinking between note 8 and mate 10... but after seeing mate 10, i was really disappointed. tho, i appreciate the speed and performance, but also not on the behalf of features. who needs so fast smart chip if it is not going to be used or not enough features to use it.
i might probably go for note 8.

zayidhs said:
When the Mate 9 came out, I wanted to go for the pro cos of the amoled screen, but disliked it for two reasons (front-facing fps and smaller screen size). Now, I wanted to go for the mate 10 and they switch the location of the fps.
I'm in a bind;
1. I hate fps on front so it has to be the pro for me
2. As an audiophile, I love wired headsets (pro doesn't have it) so, Mate 10
3. I want a 6GB ram
4. I want an old screen but just found out that the Mate 10 screen has 499 ppi while the pro has 402 ppi which means that the Mate 10 is sharper.
This leaves me in a conundrum cos each phone has something I dislike and like.
I would have loved the pro to as it is with other features but a 3.5mm audio jack, and at least a 499ppi
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There will be a Mate 10 version with more storage and more RAM released in China. Not sure if there will be a 256 but there will be a 128/6 at least from what I hear. So you could buy a Chinese one and rebrand it, and it would solve #3 at least.

Happy that I got my Mate 9 for $500. Although the Mate 10 is tempting, The pricing of the mate 10 is ridiculous

I actually like the new designs but won't get it. The mate 9 is still a great phone.
The mate 11 will be my next mate imo.

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Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
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Funny, that's one of the things that would make me want to switch to the Mate 10. Mate 9 was the first phone I've had with a rear sensor. It's just not as natural to me as a front sensor, especially when it's sitting near me on a desk. Having to pick it up just to get to the sensor is a PITA. I haven't read much about the Mate 10, but if they did the thing where the sensor replaces all of the on-screen controls (swipe to go back, etc.), that would be great. Though it would still take a lot more than a new fingerprint sensor to get me to upgrade phones.

Picking between the Mate 10 and 10 Pro, seems like the Mate 10 is the best value. If you can live without wireless charging and fps on back of phone, and, resign yourself to the likelihood that development will likely be slower than some Qualcomm based phone, the Mate 10 is probably the best all round Android phone out there. If you know of a better one please chime in and say why!
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_10_pro_porsche-review-1669p8.php

HOPEFULLY the era of overpriced phones is hitting its peak. Already I've heard many say they are skipping the iPhoneX because of the price. I think the silly price of phones, considering each phone within the past few years is basically the same as last years model, with sideways improvements, or gimmicks. First words out of most presenters mouths when shown is "colorful, stylish, slim".
Who cares. Apple was the really screwy one putting SLICK glass on the BACK of a phone, that many people will put a case on anyway, or, run it naked, drop it and shatter the front AND the back.
At least Huawei has kept the 4,000mAH battery from the Mate2, through the 10. If they would have kept the price down a bit, they could clean up. I'm not one of the "gotta buy the latest/greatest" because I find a better bang for the buck, of buying last years latest & greatest thing, typically for 1/2 price.
Then you'll hear the "but you won't get the latest updates"....For me, it doesn't matter. Heck, in my experience, except for kit-kat, everything from Jelly Bean on up has been stable enough that I had no need to root, hack, custom flash my 3 Huawei phones.

Huawei vs Samsung – question about your experiences

The question goes to those who have experience with both the Huawei mate 20 Pro and the Samsung S10 +.
I myself come from Oneplus 6 and have preordered the S10 + (Exynos, Ceramic black, 512 GB) to get the additional earbuds. Now Samsung has informed me that this preorder - promotion cannot be claimed for me, because I ordered via Amazon (although this was advertised on Amazon). "Relatively" seen the S10 + is therefore still too expensive (in fact that I now have to buy the ear buds additional). On the other hand the price of the S10+ has already fallen by about 100 €, so the "preorder" was without any sense for me.
Now I've considered two options. Either return the S10 + and buy it later (when it's cheaper) or consider the upcoming Huawei P30 pro.
Therefore I´m interested in experiences from those, who know Samsung and Huawei. I have to say that I am very satisfied with the S10 + itself. In particular, in the following points:
+ great feel and look, in Ceramic black it looks just fantastic and feels very high quality
+ display just great
+ battery drain (8-10h SOT over 1 1/2 days or about 5h SOT over 2 1/2 days)
+ All around functionality
+ beautiful user interface (dark theme, dialer...) and intuitive menu
+ camera. The raw files are only slightly better than the O6. The jpegs are more than ok.
+ Stereo sound and sound quality (especially sound enhancement setting for listening to music - not as good as viper4android, but sufficient and noticeably better than what I've known before)
+/- Overall speed, but only marginally faster than my OP6, wifi even much slower, but I can live with that.
+/- "bloat ware" incl. Bixby, in total not so useless
How does the Huawei mate 20 pro behave in these points - haptic, display, colors, user interface, quality, functionality, sound quality etc in terms of what I would expect with a Huawei 30 pro. Although this will certainly be a great smartphone, I'm a bit skeptical. Just because I'm really excited about Samsung for the first time.
Root is required for my choice (titanium backup and some other apps that require root). I really want to get away from custom roms. In this regard, I feel at Samsung for the first time really arrived - hence the interest or the question of the overall feeling at Huawei. I do not really care about the brands themselves, so I do not want to start any "fan boy" discussions.
I would be very thankful about your opinion or your experiences!

Flying Fox said:
The question goes to those who have experience with both the Huawei mate 20 Pro and the Samsung S10 +.
I myself come from Oneplus 6 and have preordered the S10 + (Exynos, Ceramic black, 512 GB) to get the additional earbuds. Now Samsung has informed me that this preorder - promotion cannot be claimed for me, because I ordered via Amazon (although this was advertised on Amazon). "Relatively" seen the S10 + is therefore still too expensive (in fact that I now have to buy the ear buds additional). On the other hand the price of the S10+ has already fallen by about 100 €, so the "preorder" was without any sense for me.
Now I've considered two options. Either return the S10 + and buy it later (when it's cheaper) or consider the upcoming Huawei P30 pro.
Therefore I´m interested in experiences from those, who know Samsung and Huawei. I have to say that I am very satisfied with the S10 + itself. In particular, in the following points:
+ great feel and look, in Ceramic black it looks just fantastic and feels very high quality Ceramic Black is 1500 Euros (so is white) ; on the other hand, the rugged feel of Blue and Greeen Mate 20 Pro feel great , no prints , no grease
+ display just great I also like the S10 plus display, but I like Note 9 more and also Mate 20 Pro feels more vibrant (it totally depends on preference)
+ battery drain (8-10h SOT over 1 1/2 days or about 5h SOT over 2 1/2 days) : no flagship beats Mate 20 Pro in terms of battery life (this is kind of end of story, no BUTS), never feared I could remain uncovered
+ All around functionality Samsung is Better here, everything is done directly, no tweaks needed (except for the Infrared remote of the Huwaei, which I used)
+ beautiful user interface (dark theme, dialer...) and intuitive menu : Samsung better here, no doubt (except for the fact that Huawei supports large almost full screen caller images, while Samsung is stubborn again)
+ camera. The raw files are only slightly better than the O6. The jpegs are more than ok. : camera on Mate 20 Pro has no match. You should personally have both phones and see for yourself. The portraits dont have a match on any phone.
+ Stereo sound and sound quality (especially sound enhancement setting for listening to music - not as good as viper4android, but sufficient and noticeably better than what I've known before) : Sound quality better on S10 plus, finally fixed the loudness, now you can here the notifications ( I had to use Volume booster on Note 9)
+/- Overall speed, but only marginally faster than my OP6, wifi even much slower, but I can live with that. : Unnoticeable , both feel great and move fast
+/- "bloat ware" incl. Bixby, in total not so useless : Huawei doesnt have this issue.
How does the Huawei mate 20 pro behave in these points - haptic, display, colors, user interface, quality, functionality, sound quality etc in terms of what I would expect with a Huawei 30 pro. Although this will certainly be a great smartphone, I'm a bit skeptical. Just because I'm really excited about Samsung for the first time.
Hey there man, I have answered point by point to your questions. I should also add a few "small" things :
- Huawei has better notifications: way better! With Samsung , when you dismiss the notifications from the bar, ALL app badges clear and you soon forget (of course) where you had unread notifs. This is the most annoying thing about Android 9 on Samsung. You can work around this by installing Microsoft Launcher.
- In my opinion the fingerprint reader on Mate 20 Pro is better (even if it is optical) and better placed. With Samsung you have to lower you finger too much and lose the grip on the phone
- on S10 family there is no notification LED , Samsung gave that up. I hope Huawei will not be that dumb with the P30. There is a workaround as well called Always on Edge.
In conclusion, I now have the S10 plus, selling the Mate 20 Pro. For MY needs (and only for that), Mate 20 Pro is the better phone. But I get bored from time to time, so here I am )
Cheers and good luck!
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leoking3 said:
Hey there man, I have answered point by point to your questions. I should also add a few "small" things :
- Huawei has better notifications: way better! With Samsung , when you dismiss the notifications from the bar, ALL app badges clear and you soon forget (of course) where you had unread notifs. This is the most annoying thing about Android 9 on Samsung. You can work around this by installing Microsoft Launcher.
- In my opinion the fingerprint reader on Mate 20 Pro is better (even if it is optical) and better placed. With Samsung you have to lower you finger too much and lose the grip on the phone
- on S10 family there is no notification LED , Samsung gave that up. I hope Huawei will not be that dumb with the P30. There is a workaround as well called Always on Edge.
In conclusion, I now have the S10 plus, selling the Mate 20 Pro. For MY needs (and only for that), Mate 20 Pro is the better phone. But I get bored from time to time, so here I am )
Cheers and good luck!
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Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault

Flying Fox said:
Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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Hey man no worries, glad we share the same opinion to some point. Anyway, I am sure P30 pro will still have a better camera, cause once they started an algorithm, they will most probably stick to it. As for Samsung, the notifications stuff is driving me nuts, as it is the only manufacturer to do that and dismiss all/clear all BS. Other than that goodlooking and great phone , the S10 plus.

leoking3 said:
Hey man no worries, glad we share the same opinion to some point. Anyway, I am sure P30 pro will still have a better camera, cause once they started an algorithm, they will most probably stick to it. As for Samsung, the notifications stuff is driving me nuts, as it is the only manufacturer to do that and dismiss all/clear all BS. Other than that goodlooking and great phone , the S10 plus.
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Once again your answers reflected, I would like to thank you for your effort. They confirm my assumptions.
On the battery life: I had never really problems and that of the S10 + is more than sufficient.
To the camera: this is really very important to me, but not at the expense of the overall package. I do not understand the good picture quality of the Huawei´s completely. How can it be so good with such a high-resolution sensor? I usually shoot with a Nikon D850, similar pixel count, but correspondingly large full-frame sensor. And apart from that, no smartphone lens can put that resolution on a sheet of paper. The Huawei P30 will have a 10x optical zoom. That's nice, but it also means that light has to pass through more lenses. All the more surprising how Huawei software succeeds in getting such good results.
The overall package: if there scores the S10 +, then the decision should be clear to me. I'll wait for the 26th of May and the following reviews; but for the first time I'm really impressed with Samsung's operating system. By that I mean the functionality as a whole, the display and sound quality. The latter is even with Bluetooth headphones better than anything I've ever known (as I said, except for viper4android).
Let's wait and see. What a pity that I do not have the opportunity to take a Huawei in my own hands.

Correct, not much else to add. As for the lenses, I dont understand the whole process, and the whole aperture stuff (I do, but not in detail), but I see the final result, which is great. And yes, that is what excited me too, cause last year was boring from the Samsung perspective...this series of new phones, they did it! And I ve been using the Galaxy series since S1. So...we ll see what happens on 26Mar and after . Take care!

I would wait and see for the p30pro.
I use both at the moment. Honestly aside from the crazy Samsung display I'm kind of disappointed...
Almost the same camera setup as s9+ and note9.
8nm (exynose) Vs 7nm on the SD and m20p version.
Battery is not really stable (I've had mine since the 8th: you can see various reports on this here on XDA and Reddit (apparently the SD doesn't have that much issues).
Overall a good package, honestly. But I also think they could of done better...and still the same 15w charger!! Coming from a 6T and M20p....it's crazy they don't have more powerful chargers today!
Huawei is really innovating now (taking risks), Sammy is securing their position and oneplus is growing fast and being very open minded. Three different approaches.
Root...apparently there are issues with the new rooting procedure on exynos. But I guess we'll have to wait on JohnWu. Forget that on Huawei's side...getting root is hell, even bootloader unlocked. Only some can do it, but you need to go the funkyhuawei path.
Honestly, I don't need root anymore, phones are mostly optimized, not like in the past. And endurance is better every year. It takes me around 1h30 configure/reload all.my apps on a new phone.
Camera...hmm, that was my only weak point on the 6T, tried all the versions of the gcam, the sensor was to small, lenses not good...so even if you put a Porsche engine in a fiat500, it's a fiat500.
Huawei cameras you or love them or hate them. BUT apparently Huawei is coming out with the new Sony sensor, ToF, 10x optical, and most probably some other surprises...I just hoped OEMs would understand how important is a monochrome lense for all that it could bring in. Till today portraits are better on the p20pro than the m20pro...but that's my opinion, except of course the pixel 3XL. Which for me must have a voodoo magic camera processing system.
Notifications, i was really pissed with the m20p...but at least it has a led (lol). There were bugs here in there..but Voilà, no perfect phones exist. Annoyed to double tap on my screen on the S10+ to see my notifications (I don't use AOD, 1% battery/hour).
Battery, CPU. I've realised that a phone today needs to learn from you (your habits, app usage, etc..) and here the Kirin 980 & pie is a monster setup...it really does something in the back ground. Not sure about the S10+ yet...I need to give it time. But battery, till.today nothing gets close to me m20p.
The new display on the p30p is reported to be a Samsung...so it might be great. Let's see.. 4 days to go.
In the meantime check this out, people are saying it was done on the p30p (no idea how long they took.on post processing, but still..impressive!)
No idea why the YouTube link isn't working...

Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Flying Fox said:
Thanks, where can I find your point by point answer? Searched the forum (of course), but without success.
Yes, I know about the other "issues" as I still have the S10+. Fingerprint reader is ok for me, and notification LED not that important for me. As I said I am very satisfied with the S10 +. Apart from the fact that my pre-order at the corresponding starting price was a flop I now also consider the Huawei flagship. Hence my interest explicitly in the above points.
Thanks again
EDIT: sorry, just saw your answers in your quote above - my fault
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I have Android Pie on my S8+ and notifications don't behave like that. If i clear a new message notifaction I still have app icon badges that show me the number of messages I have not read.

SAO said:
I would wait and see for the p30pro.
I use both at the moment. Honestly aside from the crazy Samsung display I'm kind of disappointed...
Almost the same camera setup as s9+ and note9.
8nm (exynose) Vs 7nm on the SD and m20p version.
Battery is not really stable (I've had mine since the 8th: you can see various reports on this here on XDA and Reddit (apparently the SD doesn't have that much issues).
Overall a good package, honestly. But I also think they could of done better...and still the same 15w charger!! Coming from a 6T and M20p....it's crazy they don't have more powerful chargers today!
Huawei is really innovating now (taking risks), Sammy is securing their position and oneplus is growing fast and being very open minded. Three different approaches.
Root...apparently there are issues with the new rooting procedure on exynos. But I guess we'll have to wait on JohnWu. Forget that on Huawei's side...getting root is hell, even bootloader unlocked. Only some can do it, but you need to go the funkyhuawei path.
Honestly, I don't need root anymore, phones are mostly optimized, not like in the past. And endurance is better every year. It takes me around 1h30 configure/reload all.my apps on a new phone.
Camera...hmm, that was my only weak point on the 6T, tried all the versions of the gcam, the sensor was to small, lenses not good...so even if you put a Porsche engine in a fiat500, it's a fiat500.
Huawei cameras you or love them or hate them. BUT apparently Huawei is coming out with the new Sony sensor, ToF, 10x optical, and most probably some other surprises...I just hoped OEMs would understand how important is a monochrome lense for all that it could bring in. Till today portraits are better on the p20pro than the m20pro...but that's my opinion, except of course the pixel 3XL. Which for me must have a voodoo magic camera processing system.
Notifications, i was really pissed with the m20p...but at least it has a led (lol). There were bugs here in there..but Voilà, no perfect phones exist. Annoyed to double tap on my screen on the S10+ to see my notifications (I don't use AOD, 1% battery/hour).
Battery, CPU. I've realised that a phone today needs to learn from you (your habits, app usage, etc..) and here the Kirin 980 & pie is a monster setup...it really does something in the back ground. Not sure about the S10+ yet...I need to give it time. But battery, till.today nothing gets close to me m20p.
The new display on the p30p is reported to be a Samsung...so it might be great. Let's see.. 4 days to go.
In the meantime check this out, people are saying it was done on the p30p (no idea how long they took.on post processing, but still..impressive!)
No idea why the YouTube link isn't working...
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Thank you for this detailed review of your experiences. Yes, link doesn't´t work. But I just had time to take pictures in raw for post processing via lightroom. I must really say, not that big step coming from OP 6 a I had expected. So I will keep your opinion in mind. Thx!!

Norsehawk said:
Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Could I ask you what was wrong with Huawei (and which model) in your opinion?

The P30 pro comes in at 999 euro with a year old SoC, widely hated skin, a second class Samsung 1080p display(no excuse for the price).
Even ignoring the fact that the S10+ is a superior all-round package (even more with the 10% student discount) I think Huawei is shooting itself in the foot by trying to jump on the ultra flagship pricing train, their reputation has been thanks to the good value they offered, which is gone.
I spent a day comparing my phone with a relative's mate 20 pro, the latter is a very ambitious device but it falls short in every category except face recognition, which I don't use and has been proven to be a flawed protocol on even the most secured devices.
If you check my guide you can see my 15h SoT result and how it can be achieved, the p20 pro has a theoretically bigger(100mah) battery yet it gets nowhere close due to the uncompetitive SoC and software.
Huawei doesn't and never will allow unlocked bootloaders, I wouldn't recommend their services even if they offered the best choices, they're still far from that and their anti-consumer behaviour needs to be heavily punished.

Flying Fox said:
Could I ask you what was wrong with Huawei (and which model) in your opinion?
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I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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Flying Fox said:
Thank you for this detailed review of your experiences. Yes, link doesn't´t work. But I just had time to take pictures in raw for post processing via lightroom. I must really say, not that big step coming from OP 6 a I had expected. So I will keep your opinion in mind. Thx!!
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
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Norsehawk said:
Just in short summary: after Huawei Honor 7 and P10 I will never everly ever go back to Huawei absolutely ever again. Not in this lifetime anyway...
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Norsehawk said:
I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that you are projecting so much negativity...everyone has their opinion. But just my 2cents : Huawei since the p10 or H7 have gone a long way. Thus the reason that they are the second biggest selling phone company today.. and heading up quickly to bite on Samsung in the next 2 years. Huawei's P20P, M20P & Kirin 980 have been hailed for innovation, build quality and picture quality. Now, if i could have Oxygen OS on a Huawei, that would be a dream come true.
Last point : the ones that had "confirmed" spying issues last year was not Huawei but Oneplus (i company that i really like NDLR). Also, just "FYI", Samsung sells Snapdragon phones right? Only in the US. Exynos in the rest (except China). Oneplus, also a chinese company, who also should abide by the so called chinese law : "that companies need to help the government if needed". Are in the USA... ask yourself this : "oneplus + snapdragon = US, Huawei + Kirin = not US". Why? And hum, i think that there is a kind of "Trade War" happening right now, right? When you want to hurt a country : hit it's economy, who's one of the biggest company in China? Huawei. And this week Huawei filled for a lawsuit against the US government, that their restrictions are non "constitutional".
Any how, sorry i hijacked your thread to clarify some things about this "China is spying on us" BS. All government are spying on everyone.
Now let's see this p30p, there are gonna be haters and lovers... like every brand.
Peace out.

Corv0 said:
The P30 pro comes in at 999 euro with a year old SoC, widely hated skin, a second class Samsung 1080p display(no excuse for the price).
Even ignoring the fact that the S10+ is a superior all-round package (even more with the 10% student discount) I think Huawei is shooting itself in the foot by trying to jump on the ultra flagship pricing train, their reputation has been thanks to the good value they offered, which is gone.
I spent a day comparing my phone with a relative's mate 20 pro, the latter is a very ambitious device but it falls short in every category except face recognition, which I don't use and has been proven to be a flawed protocol on even the most secured devices.
If you check my guide you can see my 15h SoT result and how it can be achieved, the p20 pro has a theoretically bigger(100mah) battery yet it gets nowhere close due to the uncompetitive SoC and software.
Huawei doesn't and never will allow unlocked bootloaders, I wouldn't recommend their services even if they offered the best choices, they're still far from that and their anti-consumer behaviour needs to be heavily punished.
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Ok, understood. These are the reasons, why I´m (still) skeptical with the brand Huawei.
And yes, I checked your guide, just haven´t hit the thanks bottom yet .
Norsehawk said:
I only had bad experience with Huawei Honor 7 and P10. Not only did the hardware made my life into misery, but also the software (read EMUI). Honor 7 was an unfinished phone as it was beta, and P10s hardware went first crap (the battery bulked over time in my pocket so bad that you could see the battery cells because of the gap). So the Swedish repaircompany fixed it by replacing with new screen and battery but screwed up the dualcamera so it takes blurry pics which means shipping to service one extra time.
This Samsung, which is my first Samsung phone, is probably the best phone so far I ever had. I only can remember one phone that was this good (out of all phones I've had), and that was iPhone 5s. Had also Nexus 4 but here in Europe Google was cheap with only 16 GB ROM instead of 32. Shame...
Also, I'm still waiting for Android Pie for my Huawei P10 which will probably never come. And it doesn't matter since the EMUI would still get crap. And I'm questioning the Chinese company privacy for us users especially for that little storm last year. Not saying they are spying but I don't trust them on where my personal data will end up: in the hands of the company or their government.
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Essentially, I agree with you. However, I think that a lot has happened since the P10. Anyway, I agree that from a price point of view, Huawei's move is more than brave, even though I think you already get what you pay for. After all, with the P30 pro seems to come a sonos speaker for free (pre-order) .. if you need it. Yes, I know, this argument is rather weak ..
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that you are projecting so much negativity...everyone has their opinion. But just my 2cents : Huawei since the p10 or H7 have gone a long way. Thus the reason that they are the second biggest selling phone company today.. and heading up quickly to bite on Samsung in the next 2 years. Huawei's P20P, M20P & Kirin 980 have been hailed for innovation, build quality and picture quality. Now, if i could have Oxygen OS on a Huawei, that would be a dream come true.
Last point : the ones that had "confirmed" spying issues last year was not Huawei but Oneplus (i company that i really like NDLR). Also, just "FYI", Samsung sells Snapdragon phones right? Only in the US. Exynos in the rest (except China). Oneplus, also a chinese company, who also should abide by the so called chinese law : "that companies need to help the government if needed". Are in the USA... ask yourself this : "oneplus + snapdragon = US, Huawei + Kirin = not US". Why? And hum, i think that there is a kind of "Trade War" happening right now, right? When you want to hurt a country : hit it's economy, who's one of the biggest company in China? Huawei. And this week Huawei filled for a lawsuit against the US government, that their restrictions are non "constitutional".
Any how, sorry i hijacked your thread to clarify some things about this "China is spying on us" BS. All government are spying on everyone.
Now let's see this p30p, there are gonna be haters and lovers... like every brand.
Peace out.
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I know that many do espionage. Where do you think your fingerprints have been storaged since the iPhone 5s and up? Not at Foxconn or China... But I rather give my fingerprints to US and South Korea than China - if I need to choose.
Well, I have tasted two Huawei-models, also P9. P20 just a bit, not bad phone but the camera wasn't captured natural photos. Seemed like they were afteredited with layers automatically which they are (if you read some reviews). If I want to edit photos I refuse that the phone edit it FOR me. And some photos don't need to be edited at all because you will ruin them.
My P10 was an OK phone, but comparing with this Samsung it's like having a phone out of completely different galaxy. And one more thing to clarify: I don't hate Huawei, but I don't like shady business no matter what company.
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https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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Huawei has a history of lying about video footages or photos they made their brand ambassadors advertise, we as users have absolutely no reason to trust anything, they kept using DSLR content and splashing "taken with Huawei" on it, unacceptable.
The video in the link is just an example of reverse advertising, I expect the upcoming Huawei P30 pro's camera to be criticized in every single comparison that isn't sponsored, as it happened every time.

Flying Fox said:
Ok, understood. These are the reasons, why I´m (still) skeptical with the brand Huawei.
And yes, I checked your guide, just haven´t hit the thanks bottom yet .
Essentially, I agree with you. However, I think that a lot has happened since the P10. Anyway, I agree that from a price point of view, Huawei's move is more than brave, even though I think you already get what you pay for. After all, with the P30 pro seems to come a sonos speaker for free (pre-order) .. if you need it. Yes, I know, this argument is rather weak ..
SAO said:
https://youtu.be/S4UHq_4jAGM
Try this....
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Thank you for the link again.
As the question arises, when the first movies are made with the Pro XX - as once with the Canon 5D Mark II (or III?). Anyway, this quality goes beyond my mind and what I learned in physics lessons decades ago - but really good video! Thx!
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I just want premium, and now that also Huawei-phones costs almost as same amount as Samsung's, I would be silly if I picked Huawei imo. Surely have Huawei evolved since the P10 but I simply can't live with the EMUI anymore. And bringing Nova-launcher won't make me 100% satisfied either...
I really love new SGS10+ even with Exynos-chip that entire world have due to licensing issue (read 1993 contract between Sammy and Qualcy). Can say it works well, not bad att all. Fast too. [emoji6]
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My previous phone is mate 20 battery life is perfect like 8 hours sot and not warm now I have s10 plus us version screen time only 6 hours and phone feel very warm

Huawei Emui is awful. They make the bootloader unlockable. Screen not as good with issues