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Will you update to Mate 9 ?

Huawei Mate 9 have been officially presented, did it meet your expectations will you upgrade to it from your mate 8 ?

For me, it's a No
The pro version is simply too expensive and I personally dislike the front button
The normal version, camera aside, is more software improvement than hardware. For me the double leica camera is not enough reason for changing

jborbonv said:
For me, it's a No
The pro version is simply too expensive and I personally dislike the front button
The normal version, camera aside, is more software improvement than hardware. For me the double leica camera is not enough reason for changing
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Good said, I agree with you, they have done a lot with the software this year, the physical look on mate 9 looks very uninspiring, even their honor 8 looks superior, I would prefer the same back as honor 8.
The camera bump looks disgusting.. it is much about how the camere will live up to the expectations.
I wish it had 3 in one sim/sd slot like they have in some honor devices, most people most use SD card so then they can not use the dual sim functionality.
i am disspointed there is no amoled screen, to be honest I expected 2k amoled this time.. to make it daydream and VR ready.
They could make the smartphone thicker to make bigger battery to compensate for a more high resolution screen and also to get rid of the camera bump.
Personally I have not decided what to buy, it is this against Mi Mix for me, mi mix have **** camera.. that is the main difference..I also think EMUI 5.0 is better in the software department then MIUI.
I wish the price would be little better.
I do not like the Porshe version that much despite the price, 5.5 is way to small, I had a 5.5 before and it is a big difference in experience during the 3 month I had it I bought a tablet, when I get a 6 inch I have no need for tablet.
as I said we will see about the camera.. it is the camera that will decide the true caliber of this device.
if not that Mate series is still one of the very few devices that have an acceptably battery time, not every one want to have a battery back always with you ..
I am extreme heavy user, with a screen on time with about 8 hours per day sometimes more..
I bought mate 8 only about 3 months ago, and I feel if Mate 8 get EMUI 5.0 it would feel reborn again..so not sure how I will do..
I know from past experience the prices of Mate devices are kind of static so there is no reason to wait 6 months to buy it, if you are going to buy it, buy it as soon as possible since the price will not get lower with time.

Just for cpu upgrade, I won't upgrade to Mate 9
Porche edition, out of reach

You should become their designer..hehehe
blackinfinity said:
Good said, I agree with you, they have done a lot with the software this year, the physical look on mate 9 looks very uninspiring, even their honor 8 looks superior, I would prefer the same back as honor 8.
The camera bump looks disgusting.. it is much about how the camere will live up to the expectations.
I wish it had 3 in one sim/sd slot like they have in some honor devices, most people most use SD card so then they can not use the dual sim functionality.
i am disspointed there is no amoled screen, to be honest I expected 2k amoled this time.. to make it daydream and VR ready.
They could make the smartphone thicker to make bigger battery to compensate for a more high resolution screen and also to get rid of the camera bump.
Personally I have not decided what to buy, it is this against Mi Mix for me, mi mix have **** camera.. that is the main difference..I also think EMUI 5.0 is better in the software department then MIUI.
I wish the price would be little better.
I do not like the Porshe version that much despite the price, 5.5 is way to small, I had a 5.5 before and it is a big difference in experience during the 3 month I had it I bought a tablet, when I get a 6 inch I have no need for tablet.
as I said we will see about the camera.. it is the camera that will decide the true caliber of this device.
if not that Mate series is still one of the very few devices that have an acceptably battery time, not every one want to have a battery back always with you ..
I am extreme heavy user, with a screen on time with about 8 hours per day sometimes more..
I bought mate 8 only about 3 months ago, and I feel if Mate 8 get EMUI 5.0 it would feel reborn again..so not sure how I will do..
I know from past experience the prices of Mate devices are kind of static so there is no reason to wait 6 months to buy it, if you are going to buy it, buy it as soon as possible since the price will not get lower with time.
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Not worth for now. Its not Samsung that you HAVE TO upgrade ahahha
Mate 8 still my no.1 !

I am waiting on my Phab 2 Pro to come Tuesday..I have the Mate 8, then got Mi Max, and then got Honor Note 8..sold both of them and went back to the Mate 8 only because of 4G coverage and the Mate 8 is definitely a top phone but I wanted a bigger phone that have great specs as well as full LTE coverage..I can honestly say the Mate 8 is probably the best phone I ever had

Agree
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reasons for upgrading would be restricted to: significantly higher gpu performance / double camera. thats it. and if youre a user focussing on those two departments, u wouldnt have gotten the mate 8 in the first place so its kind of a moot point to go from mate 8 to mate 9, unless ure just OCD about having the latest and greatest while not giving a crap about cost ^^
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Too pricey for now. Maybe next year when the price drops. Our Mate 8 will be revitalized once it gets EMUI 5.
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Sure! By end of December, emui 5 for sure

danterape said:
Not worth for now. Its not Samsung that you HAVE TO upgrade ahahha
Mate 8 still my no.1 !
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I paid 300 euros for this Mate 8 yesterday... it was new..only NXT-DL00... but with your help (thanks again!!) I hope to 'convert' it to an International one... I knew there would be a catch for 300...oh well
Mate 9? Hmm maybe next year when the prices drop hahah... the Porsche Edition is definitely NOT worth it if you ask me, that even makes Apple phones seem cheap lol...

No, because I just bought the 8.
I used the Mate2 for over 2 years, because I thought it was a good value.
When the 8 was talked about last summer, I looked at it, but when the price was announced,
I said nope, too expensive. I waited...
Late this summer, with the 9 coming, I started watching the price on the 8 drop. When it reached a
level I thought for me, was a good value, I bought it.
"But, you didn't get the newest software, newest camera bla bla bla."
So? I ran the Mate2 on JB for over a year before LL came around, and still have LL on it now. Latest
and greatest doesn't concern me. As for the camera on the 9? If I really want to take a photograph,
I'll grab my dSLR. I only use the smartphone camera to record work related stuff, mainly close up
photos. I don't play games on my phone, so super duper graphics pixel peeping stuff doesn't concern
me. Oh, 10 years ago, I flashed every new rom that came along for my HTC phones, but things are
so stable today, that to me, a smartphone is a "toaster oven". You turn it on and use it. I don't bother
rooting or anything else. If stock is stable, I leave it alone.
My phone is my job lifeline. All of my service tickets are done on a web based app, as are remote connections
to the machines I work on and monitor. I'm a field service supervisor, so I'm constantly on the phone with
other techs, and factory reps. Around 2,000 minutes on the phone, hundreds of emails, texts, photos, along
with a lot of streaming audio. It has to be a good value, and have a good battery, which is why I got the
Mate2 when I did.
The 9 looks like a good phone, but it is priced like a lot of "flagships"....to high for reality. In a year, if I've
got an itch for something new, when the mate10 is announced, I'll start watching the price of the 9. If it falls
to what I think it is worth to me, I'll buy one.

No, mate 8 was my first Android after iPhone 3,4 and 5 and lumia 930. I liked the big screen of the mate 8 a lot, but i don't like that googles only reason for making android is user data.
And the apps want way to much permissions.
In may i updated to b320. because i didn't get ota updates and i read articles, stating b320 would be the next ota.
Well it wasn't and i didn't get any update since may.
The going back to mui 4.0 routine, is to much for me, i have so many offline maps on the device for example, that it would take several hours to download them again.
And where to go? There isn't any update for mui 4.1 at all, for six month now.
So the main reasons for leaving Huawei is, that i just see regular updates for other regions in the world and nothing here. L29.
I live in Germany and all companies including, huawei, lg, htc samsung only sell the smaller Ram versions here, like 32 gb and 64 next year if i am lucky.
So i am thinking about a wopping 256 gb iphone 7 plus and never messing with small ram and sd card again.

it looks like Huawei will compete with Mi Mix , wow what a dream, maybe it will be what Mi Mix should have been since it have some flaws..such as bad camera.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Huaw...te-9-Pro-to-be-unveiled-November-14th_id87507

No upgrade. The Mate 8 battery life is amazing as it is. Plus, conversion rate to CAD will probably cost $1k after taxes for the top model. If you already own the mate 8, I see no need to upgrade.
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sure.
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I guess maybe I will swap my Mate 8 now for a brand new Xiaomi Mi Mix or Mi Note 2... These phones looks astonishing... And the MIUI...

Will.stay with Mate8 till Mate10 is out

bluheart said:
Will.stay with Mate8 till Mate10 is out
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now THAT sounds like a plan to me
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Mate 10

Anyone watching the keynote? I really love my mate 9 but I'm already doing my financials, mate 10 Pro on the way!!!

I prefer mate 10 with the headphone jack and microsd card slot. Also I don't really like the 18:9 ratio... but I still need time to consider.

I am going back to Nokia after my mate 9... EMUI sucks.

dlhak said:
I am going back to Nokia after my mate 9... EMUI sucks.
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HAHA! Good luck with that! Why does EMUI suck tho? I think it's really good... Have fun with Nokia

I really want to see the LTE band support of the Chinese model. I need Band 41, and for some reason even though they had support for it for non-Chinese Mate 9's, they don't for Mate 10's.
Regardless I have to buy one. After all, my business depends on it

The new mate 10 versions are a disaster. If they combined them into one phone at the price of around 600 bucks it would kill all other phones like this just meh.

arminbih said:
The new mate 10 versions are a disaster. If they combined them into one phone at the price of around 600 bucks it would kill all other phones like this just meh.
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Yes.
I don't know what they were thinking for those design/specs/features decisions.
No matter which one you take - Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro, there are trade-offs that are not acceptable - at all.
I will keep checking on xdadevelopers to see everyone's feedback on the Mate 9 with Oreo (once that is rolled out).
Based on that, I may go pick up a Mate 9.
Otherwise, I have money that I had (planned) to spend on a Mate 10 (16:9 version) - but now, I am not sure it is worth it.
One last thing. Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
Too many compromises for me to swallow - if I am expected to pay flagship prices for this.

icemankent said:
Yes.
I don't know what they were thinking for those design/specs/features decisions.
No matter which one you take - Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro, there are trade-offs that are not acceptable - at all.
I will keep checking on xdadevelopers to see everyone's feedback on the Mate 9 with Oreo (once that is rolled out).
Based on that, I may go pick up a Mate 9.
Otherwise, I have money that I had (planned) to spend on a Mate 10 (16:9 version) - but now, I am not sure it is worth it.
One last thing. Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
Too many compromises for me to swallow - if I am expected to pay flagship prices for this.
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Mate 9 is good if you can get it for a good price. I wouldn't pay more than 400 for mate 9. The biggest advantage this phones have is their battery and on this 1080p display on mate 9 it will last u 7 hours min. No other phone can do that. Software support is lacking even though you really don't need the newest all the time since there will always be bugs and flaws. Gaming is great even if the GPU is weaker then it's competition. Display is good on accuracy but you need to play a bit with it and set it more to red tint zone since it is naturally set to too much blue. Overall good phone with it's flaws like any other.

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When the Mate 9 came out, I wanted to go for the pro cos of the amoled screen, but disliked it for two reasons (front-facing fps and smaller screen size). Now, I wanted to go for the mate 10 and they switch the location of the fps.
I'm in a bind;
1. I hate fps on front so it has to be the pro for me
2. As an audiophile, I love wired headsets (pro doesn't have it) so, Mate 10
3. I want a 6GB ram
4. I want an oled screen but just found out that the Mate 10 screen has 499 ppi while the pro has 402 ppi which means that the Mate 10 is sharper but the pro has more vivid colours.
This leaves me in a conundrum cos each phone has something I dislike and like.
I would have loved the pro as it is, with its features but have a 3.5mm audio jack, and at least a 499ppi

I feel all what you feel? Idiot decisions. I really don't know which one to go for? And it's making me dislike both. Damn

Over all I think there many nice, some subtle, improvements. Worry a little about the AI. Especially as data is gathered about you.
My Chinese version of Mate 9 has 6GB ram. Will there be a similar Chinese Version of Mate 10? Don't know why only offer 4GB Mate 10.
How does performance compare for 4GB vs 6GB on Mate 9? Not interested in pro version. Hate 18:9 ratio. Too thin. More like candy bar...
Might get Mate 10 although not currently offered in US.

Unbelievable, after hyping it up so much, this is the best Huawei can do. I love the mate 9 and was looking forward to the Mate 10 but with all the [email protected] they are doing with this release, I probably will wait till next year for something better. I got to say this is one of the more disappointing releases ever.

To be honest, i came here to see the opinion of mate 9 users about mate 10, because i thoughts it is really bad... i was thinking between note 8 and mate 10... but after seeing mate 10, i was really disappointed. tho, i appreciate the speed and performance, but also not on the behalf of features. who needs so fast smart chip if it is not going to be used or not enough features to use it.
i might probably go for note 8.

zayidhs said:
When the Mate 9 came out, I wanted to go for the pro cos of the amoled screen, but disliked it for two reasons (front-facing fps and smaller screen size). Now, I wanted to go for the mate 10 and they switch the location of the fps.
I'm in a bind;
1. I hate fps on front so it has to be the pro for me
2. As an audiophile, I love wired headsets (pro doesn't have it) so, Mate 10
3. I want a 6GB ram
4. I want an old screen but just found out that the Mate 10 screen has 499 ppi while the pro has 402 ppi which means that the Mate 10 is sharper.
This leaves me in a conundrum cos each phone has something I dislike and like.
I would have loved the pro to as it is with other features but a 3.5mm audio jack, and at least a 499ppi
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There will be a Mate 10 version with more storage and more RAM released in China. Not sure if there will be a 256 but there will be a 128/6 at least from what I hear. So you could buy a Chinese one and rebrand it, and it would solve #3 at least.

Happy that I got my Mate 9 for $500. Although the Mate 10 is tempting, The pricing of the mate 10 is ridiculous

I actually like the new designs but won't get it. The mate 9 is still a great phone.
The mate 11 will be my next mate imo.

icemankent said:
Why on earth did Huawei go and place the fingerprint sensor on the FRONT of the phone ???
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Funny, that's one of the things that would make me want to switch to the Mate 10. Mate 9 was the first phone I've had with a rear sensor. It's just not as natural to me as a front sensor, especially when it's sitting near me on a desk. Having to pick it up just to get to the sensor is a PITA. I haven't read much about the Mate 10, but if they did the thing where the sensor replaces all of the on-screen controls (swipe to go back, etc.), that would be great. Though it would still take a lot more than a new fingerprint sensor to get me to upgrade phones.

Picking between the Mate 10 and 10 Pro, seems like the Mate 10 is the best value. If you can live without wireless charging and fps on back of phone, and, resign yourself to the likelihood that development will likely be slower than some Qualcomm based phone, the Mate 10 is probably the best all round Android phone out there. If you know of a better one please chime in and say why!
https://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate_10_pro_porsche-review-1669p8.php

HOPEFULLY the era of overpriced phones is hitting its peak. Already I've heard many say they are skipping the iPhoneX because of the price. I think the silly price of phones, considering each phone within the past few years is basically the same as last years model, with sideways improvements, or gimmicks. First words out of most presenters mouths when shown is "colorful, stylish, slim".
Who cares. Apple was the really screwy one putting SLICK glass on the BACK of a phone, that many people will put a case on anyway, or, run it naked, drop it and shatter the front AND the back.
At least Huawei has kept the 4,000mAH battery from the Mate2, through the 10. If they would have kept the price down a bit, they could clean up. I'm not one of the "gotta buy the latest/greatest" because I find a better bang for the buck, of buying last years latest & greatest thing, typically for 1/2 price.
Then you'll hear the "but you won't get the latest updates"....For me, it doesn't matter. Heck, in my experience, except for kit-kat, everything from Jelly Bean on up has been stable enough that I had no need to root, hack, custom flash my 3 Huawei phones.

Get one before they're gone?

My Nexus 5x was replaced with a refurb by Google and now the refurb is starting to act up, so I'm of course thinking new phone. I've always wanted to have the latest (non-Samsung!) flagship type phone and was looking at a OnePlus 5T and similar ones, but after going to a store and looking at similar-size 6" phones, I decided that the "phablet" phones are just not what I want. I like the way the 5x fits my pocket, goes nicely into a small bag on my bike, etc. Plus I wouldn't be able any more to laugh at people when they pull out some humongous phone! I considered the Pixel 3 even though it's a bit smaller (the size of my Nexus 5), but it's overpriced IMO and my recent experience with the 5x doesn't make me want to trust Google again.
So I was really glad to find the Honor 8, which has all of the standard expected features plus my must-haves that are not on a lot of cheaper phones such as NFC, fingerprint reader on the back, at least 32Gb storage, and others. The camera is not a big deal to me, but it seem like a good one. The best thing about it is that it's still available for purchase at a good price! With the rate that some mfrs -- especially Huawei -- seem to churn out new phones, many drop out of production/availability in just over a year or so. It might not be in the "flagship" category, but when I look realistically at what I use a smartphone for, the Honor 8 checks all the boxes and then some.
Unless someone wants to warn me off from this phone, I'll probably be ordering one within a few days!

The camera is one of the best. The performance is very good. Some people say that they are having problems with the gyroscope, but mine works perfectly.

Although I love my Honor 8, I would advice going for something like the Redmi Note 4 (SD625). It has much better battery life and custom ROMs will be supported for much longer. Hence a more future proof device.

The only thing i dont like about this phone are the very slow updates/patches and the nearly dead custom rom development. But I think at least the custom rom development should be a bit better after the phone receives the official oreo update that makes it easier for developers to create custom roms. Everything else about this phone is absolutely perfect, like the great camera, performance, etc. The battery isnt super great, but above average/average in my opinion.

If you don't care much about development, this device is really good for it's price. I paid $260 for mine 64GB blue from Newegg.
If you want development, I recommend OP5T or OP5 although those will be much more expensive and larger.

What's it going for these days?
I'm planning on keeping it for another year as long as it receives patches.
It's still fast and keeps up with newer flagship devices.
Only thing that annoys me if the Bluetooth disconnecting all of a sudden.

For a bit more, you can get the Honor 9 which will get Oreo and after that it's already custom rom future proof.

Leon Lambra said:
For a bit more, you can get the Honor 9 which will get Oreo and after that it's already custom rom future proof.
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Honor 8 will get it, too.
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But I agree that Honor 9 is better

Leon Lambra said:
For a bit more, you can get the Honor 9 which will get Oreo and after that it's already custom rom future proof.
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Days Tech said:
Honor 8 will get it, too.
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But I agree that Honor 9 is better
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Honor 9 is just a refreshed honor 8, like cars get facelifts.. in my opinion its not worth it to get honor 9 for the price, at least in my country. You get 90% of honor 8 in there. And that front fingerprint reader.. pass.. haha.
Pure Honor 8

alen1901 said:
Honor 9 is just a refreshed honor 8, like cars get facelifts.. in my opinion its not worth it to get honor 9 for the price, at least in my country. You get 90% of honor 8 in there. And that front fingerprint reader.. pass.. haha.
Pure Honor 8
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I didn't say it was worth the price. I just said that it is better than Honor 8. Of course that fingerprint reader location ain't so good, but that phone is slightly faster and has some other improvements. iPhone 4 isn't better than iPhone X because it has a headphone jack.

I just mentioned the honor 9 because right now in my country, it's just 50 bucks more compared to the honor 8, which for me would be a no brainier then, it's the overall better device.

Leon Lambra said:
I just mentioned the honor 9 because right now in my country, it's just 50 bucks more compared to the honor 8, which for me would be a no brainier then, it's the overall better device.
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In here it is like that but I won't upgrade my Honor 8 to it.

alen1901 said:
Honor 9 is just a refreshed honor 8, like cars get facelifts.. in my opinion its not worth it to get honor 9 for the price, at least in my country. You get 90% of honor 8 in there. And that front fingerprint reader.. pass.. haha.
Pure Honor 8
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I agree. Plus Honor 9 isn't a true world unlocked phone like the 8 was.
The 9 has less UTMS/LTE bands vs the Honor 8?.. And the smaller screen and front fingerprint reader..What's up with that?

tiguy99 said:
I agree. Plus Honor 9 isn't a true world unlocked phone like the 8 was.
The 9 has less UTMS/LTE bands vs the Honor 8?.. And the smaller screen and front fingerprint reader..What's up with that?
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With the screen size and front fingerprint scanner location they are aiming for a different type of customers. A lot of people prefer smaller screens and front fingerprint scanner. You can unlock ur device with fingerprint without lifting the device up with the scanner at the front. I still prefer it in the back (apart from galaxy s8 and note 8 since that positioning is awful).

This is also something I think about!
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...

bvrulez said:
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...
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Expect no one apart from you would actually mind those things since it is a pretty common thing with phones. Some people care about the performance and other things as well.

Of course people mind. That's why iPhones and Samsung phones have had a physical button on the front. It allows you to switch the device on and off with the thumb which isn't possible otherwise (exept if you include a software off button like the one the HTC has in the navigation bar).

bvrulez said:
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...
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Sounds like LG G6 might be your best bet. But all phones are getting bigger which is a trend I'd wish stopped.

Ascertion said:
Sounds like LG G6 might be your best bet. But all phones are getting bigger which is a trend I'd wish stopped.
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Not the Galaxy s8. It's really a small device with a big screen, easy to use with one hand comparing to others. I would have bought it instantly if finger sensor wasn't screwed. Waiting for Galaxy s9. It's actually second Galaxy phone i considered to buy, the first one was Galaxy s2 haha. And now Galaxy s8/s9.
Pure Honor 8

bvrulez said:
When my HTC M8 camera died this summer I bought a Honor 8 from Amazon Warehouse for 220 Euros (260 Dollar). I sent it back because
- The HTC M8 had round edges and a slightly smaller screen. So the Honor felt way too big. Especially since I still think about buying an old iPhone 5 because I like the size more.
- The Honor EMUI does not have a customizable "off" button in the navigation bar. This means that for switching the display OFF you have to actually press the physical off button. This sucks because you have to re-arrange the phone in your hand to do it.
- The Honor also does not have the gesture support the HTC M8 has so as to wake up the display by double-tapping on it. This also sucks because it means you have to press the physical button or the fingerprint button - which isn't possible while keeping it on the table.
Those might seem like small things but to me they where essential with the HTC. That is probably the reason why they changed the fingerprint to the front on the Honor 9 - but I am not sure if it lets you switch OFF the display with it or if you can just switch it on.
If there would be any chance of updating the navigation bar and maybe even getting the gesture to wake up I would buy one! Even now that I bought a "new" HTC M8 from Hongkong over Ebay for 160 Euros. Honor 8 is again at about 200 on Amazon for warehouse ones (32GB). Honor 9 is about 50% more expensive (for 64GB).
I really like my Google Nexus 7 I bought in 2014 as a used one. It is still awesome because the updates did not slow it down. I suspect the Honor 8 could last the same way as a very reliable phone for a long time. If there just wheren't those things I mentioned...
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I actually think this phone is small and regret that i bought honor 8 instead of oneplus 3T which is a little bit bigger , I really don t mind that i have to press the button to open it , i had an lg g flex 2 and yea i liked that double tap feature but i can live without it , the thing that really bothers me is EMUI , it just sucks , that s why i regret that i bought this one instead of the oneplus but changed the theme and put the pixel launcher and now i can live with it , oh and for the guy that started this topic , go for oneplus 5T man , it s the most complete phone and cheaper than most of the flagships , if you have the money pixel 2

Upgrade to Oneplus 6

Oneplus 6 is there. I'm thinking of upgrading from my Huawei mate 9 to oneplus 6. I get tired of the little development of the Huawei community. Someone else goes to oneplus 6?

I dont believe the OP6 is on sale yet. Still I have decided to buy one as well. The mate 9 is great and all but I still can't get used to the UI and the development for this phone is pretty much absent.

Nope. Out of the box, they have way too many bugs, customer service is terrible.
In about a month or two after release, their phones aren't too bad, but, I don't like being
a beta tester. I've had 3 Huawei Phones. Mate 2,8,9. Out of the box, all have been perfect.
Plus, Oppo's cheaper cousin was suppose to be "less expensive" than all the other flagships.
They started out with a basic phone, good specs, low price. But, with each version they have
jacked up the price, and made them like every other overpriced flagship, "stylish, slim, colorful
& bla bla bla" Glass on the back? Why? Most people will put a case over it, to make sure it
doesn't break.
Nope, I don't go for Oppo's OnePlus with all their viral marketing BS.

The Huawei Mate 9 is my first Huawei device. Couldn't be happier. So much so that I got a P20 for my wife recently. If I had to replace the Mate 9 today I would take the P20 Pro.
I'm not into rooting or changing ROMs so the lack of a 'development community' doesn't bother me.
Before acquiring the Mate 9 I also considered the OnePlus 3T but the lack of local technical assistance was a big no no. If I can't buy it locally or get it repaired locally then I'm not interested.

I'm waiting for the next Mate.
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i will still go with huawei. especially with local service. amazing 1:1 exchange if your phone has hardware problems. About UI, seen OP5T from a friend it was fast yes. but too boring seeing it stock google. i realized that stock was just hype. and it was too boring to see. no exciting UI features.

What do you mean no development? We are the first phone to have trebble compatibility, and able to install pure android roms. Samsung s8 and oneplus 5 did not even bother to give trebble compatibility just so you will want to buy their new phone because it adds another feature. Oneplus 6 looks very similar to mate 9, camera probably isn't that much better either. Your point is invalid. Huawei have been improving tremendously and updates are more and more frequent.

arminbih said:
What do you mean no development? We are the first phone to have trebble compatibility, and able to install pure android roms. Samsung s8 and oneplus 5 did not even bother to give trebble compatibility just so you will want to buy their new phone because it adds another feature. Oneplus 6 looks very similar to mate 9, camera probably isn't that much better either. Your point is invalid. Huawei have been improving tremendously and updates are more and more frequent.
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Shoot, from what I discovered in 2014, when the "startup" OnePlus came along, all they are is a beta tester for the parent Oppo.
Once people found out that OnePlus is 100% owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK electronics, their mask as a "poor lonely startup" got busted. Then, with the oneplus one, the distortions & out and out lies started to appear.
Stereo speakers that ended up being nothing more than twin MONO speakers, the "yellow stain" which they first said was because they set the screen color to a more warmer color. That turned out to be a lie, the screens were rushed to meet demand from the supplier and had not cured properly (I fixed mine by a combo of UV light & leaving it in the sunlight). Problems with
accessories missing or not working, having to pay shipping to get the phone and even worse if you had problems, sending it back!
Then, they came out with the OnePlus 2, which had the ill fated 810 chip, which was a problem for every manufacturer that tried to use it.
The OP3/3T was the better of the bunch, but then they went "cheap(er)" with the 5/5T and switched from an optical image
stabilized camera sensor, to the electronic image stabilized sensor, with a faster lens hoping to make up the difference.
It's "not bad" but not as good as the OIS on the 3/3T.
Then what do they do with the 6? Glass back? Why? To make it more trendy,hip,colorful & stylish? That just allows them
to jack up the price. And, if it has a glass back, why not throw in wireless charging?
Nope, got stung by the OnePlus hype in 2014...not going that route, again unless I can walk into a brick store buy it,
and take it back if it doesn't work.

I'm going to hold onto this phone for a while. I'm running OpenKirin, which while it has a few bugs, has substantially fewer than EMUI 8 (which prevented some apps from running correctly). I like having a headphone jack, I like the screen, I like the battery life, the camera is fantastic, I like not having a glass back. But I will probably bite the bullet and buy a Google phone next, so that I get updates without having to hack my phone. I'll buy a bunch of USB-C to 3.5mm dongles.

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I'm going to hold onto this phone for a while. I'm running OpenKirin, which while it has a few bugs, has substantially fewer than EMUI 8 (which prevented some apps from running correctly). I like having a headphone jack, I like the screen, I like the battery life, the camera is fantastic, I like not having a glass back. But I will probably bite the bullet and buy a Google phone next, so that I get updates without having to hack my phone. I'll buy a bunch of USB-C to 3.5mm dongles.
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Well google some of the pixel problems you will be amazed. Bad screen, and mic not working after update are the most common.

When the Mate 11 (or whatever they call it) is announced, I start watching the price on the 10, just like I did when I had the 8, and then
10 was announced, the price on the 9 DROPPED. Once it hit the around $500 mark, I upgraded to the 9.

My Mate 9 was a fabulous device.
My OnePlus 5T is updated almost every week.
And it's VERY quick.
Huawei prices and the feeling of being dumped (I had to wait a year for updates!) It's a worrying trend
Am I going to wait for the Mate 20? We'll have to see.

Consumerism should be a disease.

Pixel 3
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Well google some of the pixel problems you will be amazed. Bad screen, and mic not working after update are the most common.
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I am hoping the Pixel 3 will be better. Meanwhile I am reasonably happy with the Mate 9.

I probably won't buy another Huawei -- their recent decision to stop providing bootloader unlock codes means they are too unfriendly to XDA. OnePlus gets a lot of XDA support, which is fantastic, but I don't want a device with a glass back. I drop my phone too often. (Spigen has been great on the Huawei.) It is too bad because the Mate 9 has great hardware, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.

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i will still go with huawei. especially with local service. amazing 1:1 exchange if your phone has hardware problems. About UI, seen OP5T from a friend it was fast yes. but too boring seeing it stock google. i realized that stock was just hype. and it was too boring to see. no exciting UI features.
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what?? i dont know if your just shilling but none of what you said makes any sense. if your talking about the "optimizations" that hauwei implemnets, than maybe...... maybe! if your talking about the visual stuff....... then no!!! huawei could implement an OMS skin which could be easily disabled but instead royally bones the ui to look like ios.
android is about choice, if i want ios ill buy another iphone and just take whatever apple provides. huawei does great hardware but its software is just utter crap! its too bad they'll now be shunned in the US.

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what?? i dont know if your just shilling but none of what you said makes any sense. if your talking about the "optimizations" that hauwei implemnets, than maybe...... maybe! if your talking about the visual stuff....... then no!!! huawei could implement an OMS skin which could be easily disabled but instead royally bones the ui to look like ios.
android is about choice, if i want ios ill buy another iphone and just take whatever apple provides. huawei does great hardware but its software is just utter crap! its too bad they'll now be shunned in the US.
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About OS? You can compare if you already used both. There's an option to enable app drawer on huawei phones. For OP5t's OS. Youll see how boring it is and how secure your credit card is.
We both have opinions. No one is wrong or right. It is up to you if you wanna prove you are better.

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About OS? You can compare if you already used both. There's an option to enable app drawer on huawei phones. For OP5t's OS. Youll see how boring it is and how secure your credit card is.
We both have opinions. No one is wrong or right. It is up to you if you wanna prove you are better.
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what?? im going to assume that there is a language barrier here. if so, i apologize. the problem here is still that you seem to equate OOS with aosp which it is not. no one uses stock AOSP. even google doesnt use stock AOSP on the pixels. they use a modified pixel specific ROM.
all OEMs use AOSP and then modify it for their use. most OEMs now just add custom optimizations but leave the UI alone so the users can customize through OMS skins. Huawei still bastardizes this with their iOS like skin which is horrible. the battery optimizations are also a headache because they often kill important apps and the lockscreen mod is just terrible!
the huawei ROM has nothing when compared to an AOSP ROM such as AOSP extended, Paranoid Android or even LineageOS. these ROMs provide great features and endless security updates.
if you prefer the stock ROM thats great for you but it doesnt compare to a ROM that gives you options and full control of your device. i suggest you give AOSP Extended a try.

Interesting to read through the topic...Had multiple Samsungs in the past as my daily drivers but since I lost a couple of them due to emmc chip failures I moved away from the ugly overpriced Samsungs.
Everybody has different opinions and preferences, the times I was flashing custom Roms are over. For my work I need a reliable phone with good battery life at a descent price. The Mate 9 and Mate 10 are performing as expected without any problem both running stock Roms. Never had any issues after upgrades, even from Nougat to Oreo was painless. The Mate 9 from my wife did struggle with the upgrade from Nougat to Oreo. Had to factory reset this one to get it working correctly.
I can see a trend here, Huawei seems to go the same direction Samsung took, their devices getting more and more expensive and their customer service goes down as their popularity increases.

Are you still using your h8Pro?

it's been more than a year since the phone's been released. while we didn't get to see a honor 9 Pro, there were many new phones released by Huawei and honor with similar specs and value.
are you guys still using your phone? or moved on to something else?
if you have moved on, do you miss anything from the h8Pro? and if you are still using, care to share what you like?

Yes!!
I purchased my Honor 8 Pro on 25th July 2017 and it's been over a year now and I am still using it.
The device is serving me exceptionally well. The Kirin 960 hasn't aged a bit for me. Performace is top notch just like day 1. I do not experience any lag or stutter in any app or in the UI. The battery life is also great. Providing me with a little over hours of screen on time, it would have been better but I lay PUBG a lot and it drains my battery quickly. Coming to PUBG, I play at the highest available settings right now that is HD, HDR isn't out for the Honor 8 Pro yet. Frame rate is on high and anti aliasing is on which all contribute to battery drain. I would have turned down all the settings which would have saved my battery but what's the use of having all that power under the hood if you aren't going to use it.

Yeah still inbuse and working perfectly. I still use it because there is no need to update, everything works smooth and battery is still great. Honor is also finally supporting their phones longer, which gives added incentive to buy a new Honor phone, when I feel like upgrading.

I purchased it recently (July 2018) so don't have an option to get another one for at least a year, sometimes I regret buying it as it doesn't have the kind of performance that other 2018 midranged phones have.
The phone was advertised too well saying that it is Odin of gaming and all but Snapdragon 660 phones perform better than Kirin960 powered H8P.
Camera isn't great anymore, honor has degraded the camera performance so that people will buy Honor 10 or Honor V10.
I am very disappointed with the phone which costs around 26000 INR.

I upgraded from OnePlus one to honor 8 pro on 10th July 2017. I wanted a 128GB phone with good camera, battery and dual SIM. So far not disappointed. I have installed lot of apps, using android auto etc. Got Pie update yesterday. I am not looking for an upgrade at least for another year.
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Got updated to pie and using it even now. Not feeling the need to change to a newer device. Everything works as expected for me. I am extremely happy with it.

Did you get OTA update to Pie?
Where are you from?
I am at 8.0 android....
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Finally after two years, decided to switch to a new phone. Thanks to swollen battery which is getting bigger and hotter day by day and Honor service center who gave a 5000rs quote for replacement battery. The phone was awesome in all other ways.
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ajfer.1989 said:
Finally after two years, decided to switch to a new phone. Thanks to swollen battery which is getting bigger and hotter day by day and Honor service center who gave a 5000rs quote for replacement battery. The phone was awesome in all other ways.
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800 rs price in aliexpress