I am considering one of these phones. I have a G1 now and like the specs on this better.
I use my phone to sync with Exchange 2007 and I see there are some issues with that. Not a big deal if I can get Touchdown working on this phone. That is what I use now and it is fine.
On to my question. Our security policy at work requires a password to unlock the screen on phones synced to our exchange server. I have seen where there is a screen lock to prevent pocket dials. Do they still have the option to enable the password pattern like what the older G1 has? Work was fine with that for a password.
Thanks
AFAIK, the built in active sync client does not support the enforecement of security policies. However, touchdown does support the enforecement of a 4 digit pin (and probably other security policies). This basically means that you must enter the pin you set when launching the touchdown application. It's not a bad implementation, but I do wish the android screen lock could somehow "qualify" as entering the pin.
Main screen -> Menu button -> Settings -> Location & Security
in there you will see the pattern settings.
(Yes pattern lock is available.)
trinode said:
Main screen -> Menu button -> Settings -> Location & Security
in there you will see the pattern settings.
(Yes pattern lock is available.)
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Thanks. So it sounds like it is just like my G1. I don't have a N1 yet but before I ordered one I wanted to make sure.
If anyone is interested, the Exchange service on the G4 (at least the T-Mobile version) can be disabled via the apps menu and Google Exchange services can be installed.
This will allow you to use the GMail app with Exchange enabled hosts, like Hotmail/Outlook.com and retain push mail, contact and calendar sync.
Recommended steps:
If you have any accounts using email and exchange, remove them first.
Open Settings/General/Apps/All
Tap on Exchange (The LG one with the blue icon)
Force stop
Disable the Exchange Service
(Restarting your phone is recommended at this point)
Install Google Exchange Services
(Restarting your phone is recommended at this point as well)
Open GMail and you will have Exchange as an option when you add an account.
This is gold to me.
Thanks.
sweet thx!
edit: oops that didn't work for me it gets stuck constantly sync'ing and has some exchange service crashes hmm...
Works fine here so far. I just wish you could disable the remote administration requiring your device to use a PIN. I'd love to use Smart Lock.
jbdan said:
sweet thx!
edit: oops that didn't work for me it gets stuck constantly sync'ing and has some exchange service crashes hmm...
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It's important that you remove any old exchange accounts in email first, then force close the LG exchange service and disable it. If you don't disable it, then GMail will get stuck syncing.
Joe USer said:
It's important that you remove any old exchange accounts in email first, then force close the LG exchange service and disable it. If you don't disable it, then GMail will get stuck syncing.
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Thanks I did that I'll try it again.
jbdan said:
Thanks I did that I'll try it again.
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Did you ever get it to work? If not, which model of the phone do you have?
Directions worked perfectly. Thank you.
Joe USer said:
Did you ever get it to work? If not, which model of the phone do you have?
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I haven't tried it again yet my life is crazy with a 3 yr old and twins I've been using stock g4 email app. I'll try it this week and report back thanks. Tmo version
geoff5093 said:
Works fine here so far. I just wish you could disable the remote administration requiring your device to use a PIN. I'd love to use Smart Lock.
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Just waiting on root so I can keep my damn unlock screen without having to put in an 8 character password with numbers and special characters every time I want to unlock my phone.
I might just bite the bullet and buy touchdown for $20 because I heard it doesn't need to apply the permissions to your whole phone but just the app.
geoff5093 said:
Works fine here so far. I just wish you could disable the remote administration requiring your device to use a PIN. I'd love to use Smart Lock.
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centran said:
Just waiting on root so I can keep my damn unlock screen without having to put in an 8 character password with numbers and special characters every time I want to unlock my phone.
I might just bite the bullet and buy touchdown for $20 because I heard it doesn't need to apply the permissions to your whole phone but just the app.
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This. I have used Smart Lock on my N5 with no problems even though we are required to have a PIN. Fired up the G4 and immediately noticed once I setup email Smart Lock was grey and can't be used. I thought that by switching to Gmail for my Exchange email I could get around that only to find Gmail doesn't have Exchange support on this phone (until I found this thread).
Has anyone that has followed the instructions at the top been able to get Smart Lock working when Gmail is used for Exchange email? Or does Touchdown get around this?
I am going to test this out tonight - can't goof around too much while on the job!!
centran said:
Just waiting on root so I can keep my damn unlock screen without having to put in an 8 character password with numbers and special characters every time I want to unlock my phone.
I might just bite the bullet and buy touchdown for $20 because I heard it doesn't need to apply the permissions to your whole phone but just the app.
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Does that also sync your calendar and contacts?
flippingout said:
This. I have used Smart Lock on my N5 with no problems even though we are required to have a PIN. Fired up the G4 and immediately noticed once I setup email Smart Lock was grey and can't be used. I thought that by switching to Gmail for my Exchange email I could get around that only to find Gmail doesn't have Exchange support on this phone (until I found this thread).
Has anyone that has followed the instructions at the top been able to get Smart Lock working when Gmail is used for Exchange email? Or does Touchdown get around this?
I am going to test this out tonight - can't goof around too much while on the job!!
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Outlook bypasses the security requirement, but it appears to only sync email, not calendars or contacts. You get prompted that Exchange wants you to accept these changes, but you have an option to deny them.
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Does that also sync your calendar and contacts?
Outlook bypasses the security requirement, but it appears to only sync email, not calendars or contacts. You get prompted that Exchange wants you to accept these changes, but you have an option to deny them.
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I'll have to look at that new outlook app closer then. It prompted me for the security permissions to wipe phone, pin, and all that crap so I exited out.
Touchdown is supposed to be all one contained environment so I don't think it syncs with the default apps. I could be wrong as I have never tried it since I always got a PIN bypasser working on my old phones. It is free for a month so try it out! I don't care about contacts and it would be nice to have calendar but I'm not heartbroken over it. What I would like to know is if you still get a notification of new mail. I would assume so but aren't allowed to preview it which is fine but I at least need to know I have mail.
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I'll have to look at that new outlook app closer then. It prompted me for the security permissions to wipe phone, pin, and all that crap so I exited out.
Touchdown is supposed to be all one contained environment so I don't think it syncs with the default apps. I could be wrong as I have never tried it since I always got a PIN bypasser working on my old phones. It is free for a month so try it out! I don't care about contacts and it would be nice to have calendar but I'm not heartbroken over it. What I would like to know is if you still get a notification of new mail. I would assume so but aren't allowed to preview it which is fine but I at least need to know I have mail.
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Yeah that request seems to be standard whenever you setup Outlook, regardless of app. It was when it came to the lock screen settings, it allowed me to dismiss it.
I just tried the Outlook app and it required far less permissions then adding an exchange email through the android/lg settings. The regular settings wanted pretty much everything. Wipe, disable camera, password type, password length, password expiration, encrypt phone, disable sd card, etc etc. It had everything and probably because my company just checked everything. Now the question is if it would really do any of those things probably not because that it a further settings in Exchange but it just wants to be able to do all that.
The Outlook just wanted password rules, unlock attempts, lock screen, and encrypt phone. It asked to encrypt and I said no and phone still works. I was able to keep pattern lock screen but it disabled everything else besides pin and password. The Outlook app does not integrate well with Android so everything is contained in it's own app. I don't think it does notifications either since I sent an email and waited a good 10 minutes. My phone never went off but I open the app the email shows up but never as a notification.
So maybe the Outlook app will get you by for the time being.
Hrm - I'm on an LG G4 (EU H815 model, unlocked). No Google Exchange Services visible or available in the Play Store ...
I also have an old Galaxy S3 running 5.1.1 (PacMan rom) - that has Gmail with Exchange working just fine. It has the same version of Gmail as on the G4, but also has "Exchange Services" running. I can't find any other information on that though.
[EDIT] I just checked the link in the OP which looks like the latest apk, but the button for Play Store doesn't work - URL doesn't exist.
Quick question - I haven't disabled LG Exchange on the G4 yet - when I do it says that the app will be hidden from then on. What if one wants to re-enable it - will it still be visible on the Apps menu ?
TIA
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Halfwalker said:
Hrm - I'm on an LG G4 (EU H815 model, unlocked). No Google Exchange Services visible or available in the Play Store ...
I also have an old Galaxy S3 running 5.1.1 (PacMan rom) - that has Gmail with Exchange working just fine. It has the same version of Gmail as on the G4, but also has "Exchange Services" running. I can't find any other information on that though.
[EDIT] I just checked the link in the OP which looks like the latest apk, but the button for Play Store doesn't work - URL doesn't exist.
Quick question - I haven't disabled LG Exchange on the G4 yet - when I do it says that the app will be hidden from then on. What if one wants to re-enable it - will it still be visible on the Apps menu ?
TIA
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Yes, just go to your apps in settings and it will be under 'disabled'.
Just switched things over, and Gmail Exchange is working nicely now
flippingout said:
This. I have used Smart Lock on my N5 with no problems even though we are required to have a PIN. Fired up the G4 and immediately noticed once I setup email Smart Lock was grey and can't be used. I thought that by switching to Gmail for my Exchange email I could get around that only to find Gmail doesn't have Exchange support on this phone (until I found this thread).
Has anyone that has followed the instructions at the top been able to get Smart Lock working when Gmail is used for Exchange email? Or does Touchdown get around this?
I am going to test this out tonight - can't goof around too much while on the job!!
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Have you been able to figure this out? I have coworkers on a N6, N5, and a HTC One (M7), who all have our Corporate E-mail linked to their phone via either gmail or the htc e-mail app. They can all access their respective Smart Lock settings. On my phone, its grayed out.
Confused on what this does? Just lets you add a second exchange account to gmail? Are emails mixed together or do they remain separated? I like having my Email and Gmail in 2 different apps. I also like the LG email app.
So this is probably one of the stupider questions on this forum but my Axon 7 won't let me choose "None" for the lock screen unlock. When I go into the security settings I only have the option of "Pattern, Pin or Complex Password" but the Swipe and the None options are greyed out. They read they are disabled by the administration, encryption policy or credential storage.
My device admins are only two programs, none of which are the lockscreen. I never installed any credentials and the phone is not encrypted...
I know that whatever it is, it's starring at me right in my face but I can't figure out what it is.
Help.
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So this is probably one of the stupider questions on this forum but my Axon 7 won't let me choose "None" for the lock screen unlock. When I go into the security settings I only have the option of "Pattern, Pin or Complex Password" but the Swipe and the None options are greyed out. They read they are disabled by the administration, encryption policy or credential storage.
My device admins are only two programs, none of which are the lockscreen. I never installed any credentials and the phone is not encrypted...
I know that whatever it is, it's starring at me right in my face but I can't figure out what it is.
Help.
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The Axon 7 as far as I know is Encrypted out of the box and when you setup any of the security lock screen, the only way to get it back to none is doing a factory reset and not enabling any of the security lock screen.
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The Axon 7 as far as I know is Encrypted out of the box and when you setup any of the security lock screen, the only way to get it back to none is doing a factory reset and not enabling any of the security lock screen.
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Didn't realize the phone encrypted itself when a security measure was done. Good to know. Thanks.
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Didn't realize the phone encrypted itself when a security measure was done. Good to know. Thanks.
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The phone encrypts on start up, it just uses default password and in such case can decrypt itself always. Once you set a security meassure, this password gets encrupted again with your key. This way the original key is always used for decrypting so that FS is not in need of decrypting/renecrypting on pass/pin change.
As far as the admin lockout. If you have setup exchange email account for instance, it has enforced the security method on you and will not let you remove it while you have account setup. Also, those admin apps can enforce security model of their own as well, so i would look at those as well.
I can't seem to disable the finger print unlock and the pin unlock. It makes me use one or the other and all I want is the swipe unlock. I'v tried clearing credentials, I disabled every credential individually, I deactivated device administrators. Nothing works. Anyone>?
Only way Right now to disable Security lock is by doing Factory Reset,
ZTE knows about it and hope will be fix on the next update.....beside I guess there's more to play there.
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I can't seem to disable the finger print unlock and the pin unlock. It makes me use one or the other and all I want is the swipe unlock. I'v tried clearing credentials, I disabled every credential individually, I deactivated device administrators. Nothing works. Anyone>?
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You might have an app that is enforcing the lock policy, like for instance an exchange email account that enforces secure screen or a banking app and such. Also deactivate smart-lock under security/trust agents. But clearing credential storage should kinda reset all of it unless you have to clear all fingerprints as well
EDIT: Solved. Flash 14B, hold emergency call and keep tapping next. Skip email setup and you'll get to the home screen with the message "setup proceeded by server policy" or some such. The phone reboots to setup and you can proceed through the setup wizard normally. Don't make up a bull**** email address this time.
tl;dr phone frp locked, don't know the associated email
My wife's old v20 was gathering dust and we both have the same model so I figured I'd try to root it as practice before I do mine. I made a new Gmail account during setup (my password is long and complicated and I was too lazy to look it up) but I ended up having to do another factory reset before rooting. Frp kicked in and I have no idea what the email address was. Is there any way to either find out what the email is or bypass frp altogether? I've tried various methods that involve getting into the settings menu but none work, my settings menu only has wifi settings. Maybe I need to be on a certain android version?