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Anandtech Gives Mixed Review to Ascend Mate 7

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8655/the-huawei-ascend-mate-7-review
Thoughts? I'm surprised they didn't mention having any light bleed problems on the left side by the SIM and microSD slots.

Well just one thing I will say that benchmark don't say anything how device behaves in real life !
I jst played mc5 and spiderman 2 and thor and I didnt notice a single lag and graphics were on par with my bro z2.
Only one major site has given such review so nothing much to worry about.
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I think he is right on certain things, but on the other hand on his final conclusion he is not realistic.
The camera: yeah it is not as good as the high end phones of today, but it is a lot better then the phones that the mainstream buyers had.
CPU/GPU: CPU wise it performance at the same level as a snapdragon, or it comes close to it...
But that is in a benchmark, in real life and normal use you won't see the difference it all comes down to the software/launcher.
GPU is indeed a generation behind, it is clear as water.
Mainstream users or people that don't play a lot of games won't notice, and if they do play a game 80% is playing a 2D game to kill the time.
Hardcore gamers are indeed better of on a other phone if they plan to keep it for 2 years.
NAND that is a different story, I am not really familiar what that does with your performance in every day usage.
But the reviewer, and in other reviews to, stated that it not have a big impact of the normal usage.
So in the end, I think price wise it is a good deal for many people, the note 4 is in Holland a whopping 300 euro expensively than the mate 7
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hannanzikrea said:
Well just one thing I will say that benchmark don't say anything how device behaves in real life !
I jst played mc5 and spiderman 2 and thor and I didnt notice a single lag and graphics were on par with my bro z2.
Only one major site has given such review so nothing much to worry about.
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Gsmarena also gave a negative review on mate 7.
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Wow, i just read the lengthy review of anandtech, and im quite surprised with all the neagatives the reviewer has mentioned -- CPU, GPU, NAND & battery life.
I was wondering if he was using an old and an unfinal version of the software in the mate 7. Although he answered that he was using the late october release, pretty much the latest one.
Bottom line is: as a regular user, i dont give a damn about benchmarks and measurements, as long as my actual experience with the device is awesome. And my experience with the mate 7 has been awesome!

didn't notice this topic already exists. placed order on amazon and now saw the review from Anandtech...:angel:

aorifan said:
didn't notice this topic already exists. placed order on amazon and now saw the review from Anandtech...:angel:
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Don't worry this phone is amazing I guarantee !!!
And this phone runs all games easily including asphalt 8, modern combat 5, spider man 2, thor and real racing 3. I'm telling you this because I had played these games smoothly on my phone which is 16Gb variant. And battery life is amazing.
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The AM7 is a well built and great performing phone, all tasks are executed well. The camera is far better than this review says, so is batterylife. Daily usage is what matters, not benchmarks and other measurement. They have sold more than 1 mill of this one and the majority of buyers will never know or register the cons mentioned by Anand.

Stupid Anandtech. I am very happy with my device. The best I ever had. My battery never lasted a whole day, rather half day. Now I am enjoying it up to sleep time, still have remaining juice. I don't expect my phone camera to be DSLR camera. The camera quality is sufficient for me.
BTW which phone is perfect in this bloody review? He didn't show many phones in these benchmarks. Why? He deliberately wanted to undermine this lovely phone. Because he knows that people like it. That's it.
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hannanzikrea said:
Don't worry this phone is amazing I guarantee !!!
And this phone runs all games easily including asphalt 8, modern combat 5, spider man 2, thor and real racing 3. I'm telling you this because I had played these games smoothly on my phone which is 16Gb variant. And battery life is amazing.
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thanks for the input mate, haven't got the phone but i trust your words:good:

Some of the criticism seemed a bit too nitpicky fo me. "The mini USB port isn't perfectly centered."
Really? Come on.

H. Clarkson said:
Some of the criticism seemed a bit too nitpicky fo me. "The mini USB port isn't perfectly centered."
Really? Come on.
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lol .... haha ... that's quite good review

SawMin said:
lol .... haha ... that's quite good review
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actually.. I find it a valid point.. But I guess it is typical chine design
No seriously without some one bringing it up you will most likely not noticed it...
But for me it is a problem when I try to connect the usb charging cable at night in dark... cause usually I try to find the middle point but the usb port is slightly to the left...not a deal breaker... it still does look better then most devices..

blackinfinity said:
actually.. I find it a valid point.. But I guess it is typical chine design
No seriously without some one bringing it up you will most likely not noticed it...
But for me it is a problem when I try to connect the usb charging cable at night in dark... cause usually I try to find the middle point but the usb port is slightly to the left...not a deal breaker... it still does look better then most devices..
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ူlol .... ok bro i feel you now bro

This review is shocking.
The truth is the camera is so good on stable shot but not on moving objects. The camera also blows the iPhone 6 in close up shot. In a certain close distance, the iPhone 6 just cannot get a focus but the Mate 7 manages to capture the object with great details. Not to mention the excellent pictures in day light environment, which is no worse than Samsung's 2014 S5 (best in the day light capturing league). In low light, this phone even beats the S5.
The drawback might be when it is used to capture moving objects, because it does not have OIS.
Anyway the camera on the mate 7 is among the best flagships and I am only satisfied on it!
Second is the battery life. In wifi, the phone can have 8 to 10 hours screen on time on my use (mainly on browser, social apps, occasionally light games)! I am not kidding. Please get an equivalent phone with "more efficient" hardware packed like the snapdragon in front of me to compete!
I am a previous Nexus 5 owner. The only problem or step back I feel on this upgrade is the UI speed feeling. But I cannot complain as I came from the fastest phone in the world. However even in this field the Mate 7 still performs acceptable. (fluent, but just no lighting fast like the N5 in ART)
I am very shocked they say this phone still not in the league of the best. Because there are no better options!
Note 4 - Close but a step back on battery life and TW UI
Nexus 6 - Who dare say the camera on the N6 will be better than the Mate 7? Where is the micro SD?
iPhone 6+ - Kidding me but ask me to use a pretty much same size device but with a 5.5'' screen?
So I am sorry, there are no better options so far in the market!

thing is guys when people in these reviews knows that phone comes from china it auto goes negative.. bcos they think china makes crap phones.. they are used to it that it must be all top notch.. but when it comes to iphone sht then auto is everything tolerated bcause it is not from china..
it is just life .. peoples mentality... they do what they want to do.. how they likes it..not genuine way..
like iphone has only 1gb ram they say that is fine as iphone doesnt need it.. but when it comes to android and they wud see 1gb they wud go balistic.. oo only one gb
these guys own isheephones so.. their verdict will be always negative..
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H. Clarkson said:
Some of the criticism seemed a bit too nitpicky fo me. "The mini USB port isn't perfectly centered."
Really? Come on.
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slagging phone on such stupid mentions .. they ar really asholes.. when it comes to htc which has shifted too there is no mention ! or xiaomi mi4 has totaly on left side..

Good bye to Mate 7

I did drop the phone on stone floor yesterday now the touch does not work on the majority of the screen.
In panic I have bought a used LG G3 as replacement I got it for a very good price.
yeah So I will probably not be checking this forum so much more... I hope the Mate 8 will be worth update for.
The Mate S despite beautiful design was not convincing when it did come to batter cpu and gpu and also no sd card slot.
What I liked about huawei is that they did copy the good things from apple, but now it seem they are ok with copying the bad sides also, which means
very small battery (for good profit margins) and slow and outdated cpu/gpu.
Apple use outdated and bad hardware and they manage to get the most out of it with very good software. Apple spend a lot of money on the software that is how they get away with such weak specs. Well I hope Mate 8 will be a good spec monster, the software is important but a 3rd party launcher usually does the trick. New Mate 8 will most likely have curved display and for me a very seductive screen to body ratio like no other manufacture.. the Kirrin 950 also seem to me very convincing as long as the GPU is not the bottleneck as it is on M7.
I still do not forget huawei for promising us Lollipop, yet we are still here 9 and half month into 2015 and still no real sign of official release.
I cannot understand what is taking such long time, my only conclusion is why it does take such a long time is because they are not working at it at all.
The status have been on hold for the bigger part of the year, maybe they did work on in it for 1 month, they did not meat the deadline so now the project is on hold that is what I think. Despite what is it worth waiting for lollipop ? if you ask me the answer is no.. Lollipop will satisfy no one now when 6.0 is out.
Also all new function and looks from Lollipop will not be present in the EMUI lollipop.. also same bad animations.. say what you want but animations are damn important...beautiful fast and fluid animations during multi tasking and switching between apps is very important, Apex Launcher did finally give me the smooth and fast animations i wanted from day one..

blackinfinity said:
I did drop the phone on stone floor yesterday now the touch does not work on the majority of the screen.
In panic I have bought a used LG G3 as replacement I got it for a very good price.
yeah So I will probably not be checking this forum so much more... I hope the Mate 8 will be worth update for.
The Mate S despite beautiful design was not convincing when it did come to batter cpu and gpu and also no sd card slot.
What I liked about huawei is that they did copy the good things from apple, but now it seem they are ok with copying the bad sides also, which means
very small battery (for good profit margins) and slow and outdated cpu/gpu.
Apple use outdated and bad hardware and they manage to get the most out of it with very good software. Apple spend a lot of money on the software that is how they get away with such weak specs. Well I hope Mate 8 will be a good spec monster, the software is important but a 3rd party launcher usually does the trick. New Mate 8 will most likely have curved display and for me a very seductive screen to body ratio like no other manufacture.. the Kirrin 950 also seem to me very convincing as long as the GPU is not the bottleneck as it is on M7.
I still do not forget huawei for promising us Lollipop, yet we are still here 9 and half month into 2015 and still no real sign of official release.
I cannot understand what is taking such long time, my only conclusion is why it does take such a long time is because they are not working at it at all.
The status have been on hold for the bigger part of the year, maybe they did work on in it for 1 month, they did not meat the deadline so now the project is on hold that is what I think. Despite what is it worth waiting for lollipop ? if you ask me the answer is no.. Lollipop will satisfy no one now when 6.0 is out.
Also all new function and looks from Lollipop will not be present in the EMUI lollipop.. also same bad animations.. say what you want but animations are damn important...beautiful fast and fluid animations during multi tasking and switching between apps is very important, Apex Launcher did finally give me the smooth and fast animations i wanted from day one..
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I did drop my device too but mine is perfectly smooth and ok except little bit scratch on body corner side...
By the way if u talk about update I can accept but if u talk about device copy let me tell u that iphone had release small screen and now they also releasing with larger one so we can say iphone also perfect copier from other devices...It's 'coz of Huawei brand our country can use mobile with the same level of Samsung and others in lower cost...I accept Huawei update is just like losers but I accept this also Huawei did care about cost of middle men...for iphone I like to say it's just a selfish brand which sell with higher price that everyone can't effort...It's mean wealthy are wealthy and poor don't have value...I like to see get opportunities too everyone and that's bring Huawei and still bringing with upcoming Huawei nexus...
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Fully agree Apple are the biggest rip offs going, overpriced locked pieces of ****.
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You will regret this .. G3 sucks..
You don't know what you want..

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You will regret this .. G3 sucks..
You don't know what you want..
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I do not see it as an upgrade I see it more as an downgrade.. but a solution for now..since I can sell it with not much price lost..
There is no phone out right now I want to pay full price for.. lets see if Mate 8 will change that..
Mate S I will not buy... LetV max is intersting too but.. for this device it is the actual name that ruins it..
http://www.oppomart.com/letv-max1.html

blackinfinity said:
I do not see it as an upgrade I see it more as an downgrade.. but a solution for now..since I can sell it with not much price lost..
There is no phone out right now I want to pay full price for.. lets see if Mate 8 will change that..
Mate S I will not buy... LetV max is intersting too but.. for this device it is the actual name that ruins it..
http://www.oppomart.com/letv-max1.html
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Do not buy letv it is another crap.. fake usb .. it is not 3.1 or 3.0 just 2.0.. and overheating 810..
Huawei says P9 will be very surprising..

Sad...i own both the old mate and the mate7 and being dump i dropped them both but the devices are strong as hell, still working perfect. And just to go on i bought the P8max last week and have to say that this is THE ONLY worthy device to step up. Huawei did a far better job than all the other manufactors, and being able to use sd card or two sims is perfect for me. Never change a winning team.

LG G3 I have had it now for 2 days. at stock it was unusuable very slow and laggy after installing apex with some tweaks and change animations speed in dev options it goes very fast again..it goes faster then Mate 7 now.
Compare to Mate 7 the screen of G3 is really horrible.. 2k in my ass..the contrast and black levels are still crap..
My goal was to buy a phone that I could have temporary and sell it with minimal loss in price.. so I will have G3 now until Mate 8 most likely..
But I have concluded 5.5 is too small.. but 6.0 is almost too big.. I think 5.7 might be the best of both worlds.. never had a 5.7 inch phone..
but 5.5 was definitely smaller then I expected which make it very nice for one hand use.. my thumb go all the way to the left side..

blackinfinity said:
LG G3 I have had it now for 2 days. at stock it was unusuable very slow and laggy after installing apex with some tweaks and change animations speed in dev options it goes very fast again..it goes faster then Mate 7 now.
Compare to Mate 7 the screen of G3 is really horrible.. 2k in my ass..the contrast and black levels are still crap..
My goal was to buy a phone that I could have temporary and sell it with minimal loss in price.. so I will have G3 now until Mate 8 most likely..
But I have concluded 5.5 is too small.. but 6.0 is almost too big.. I think 5.7 might be the best of both worlds.. never had a 5.7 inch phone..
but 5.5 was definitely smaller then I expected which make it very nice for one hand use.. my thumb go all the way to the left side..
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compare to any other devise i can say huawei is the most stable and strongest hardware devises...infact i m using p6 still now even my back battary cover come out when i drop it hardly...I will never ever believe that any other devices can stand so strong like that bcoz i saw how its drop and i saw body crash but screen and hardware still working perfect....I cant blame huawei for their loser updates fail many times, bcoz i m myself did drop my p6 that result me with back cover opened and now mate7 that result me 3 angel of coners crash but both perfect working...i have friends who is using LG,Samsung, Iph but i saw them always screen broken, body over temp, and screen blast(Iph 6plus)...but i never got any experience bcoz i m using huawei...so if u want to use any other device keep shut and use, dont try to say any bad words which makes perfect for others...thanks

blackinfinity said:
LG G3 I have had it now for 2 days. at stock it was unusuable very slow and laggy after installing apex with some tweaks and change animations speed in dev options it goes very fast again..it goes faster then Mate 7 now.
Compare to Mate 7 the screen of G3 is really horrible.. 2k in my ass..the contrast and black levels are still crap..
My goal was to buy a phone that I could have temporary and sell it with minimal loss in price.. so I will have G3 now until Mate 8 most likely..
But I have concluded 5.5 is too small.. but 6.0 is almost too big.. I think 5.7 might be the best of both worlds.. never had a 5.7 inch phone..
but 5.5 was definitely smaller then I expected which make it very nice for one hand use.. my thumb go all the way to the left side..
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Don't expect Mate 8 less than 6'' man ! it might be even over 6'' !! I told u I had G3 and I almost vomited.. that 2k screen does nothing only drains battery.. and when u go to apps resolution goes auto down to 720p and for google chrome even less 640x360 .. just google ''what is my resolution'' and u'll see ..
So text on 2k screen when browsing internet and reading looks jerky , grainy , choppily.. it is not smooth as on 1k screens..

[HELP] Hurry , Please help me to choose !!!

Hey Folks,
So I'm about to buy my new smartphone to replace the old broken one.
But I'm really confused which one to buy, after some research , I found this 3 smartphones , The OP3 , Meizu Pro 6 plus , Axon 7.
I haven't find any real review comparing these smartphones side by side so I'm looking for your advice to help me choose the best .
My main concerns are :
-Beautiful and vibrant display for movies,youtube,... maybe vr .
-Good audio and crisp sound.
-Performance ( day to day tasks , and maybe gaming from time to time).
-Battery , I expect a full day of usage .
-Good Camera not the best but decent for social media. I don't care about low light .
-Best android experience (not stock experience) , without bugs and lags .
That's it , Please help me and thanks in advance.

Youssefmans said:
Hey Folks,
So I'm about to buy my new smartphone to replace the old broken one.
But I'm really confused which one to buy, after some research , I found this 3 smartphones , The OP3 , Meizu Pro 6 plus , Axon 7.
I haven't find any real review comparing these smartphones side by side so I'm looking for your advice to help me choose the best .
My main concerns are :
-Beautiful and vibrant display for movies,youtube,... maybe vr .
-Good audio and crisp sound.
-Performance ( day to day tasks , and maybe gaming from time to time).
-Battery , I expect a full day of usage .
-Good Camera not the best but decent for social media. I don't care about low light .
-Best android experience (not stock experience) , without bugs and lags .
That's it , Please help me and thanks in advance.
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This is like your third post already???
The front camera is kinda bad
The battery is okay, will last you enough unless the OS comes weird
Performance is okay
Android experience is okay. Want an app drawer? use Nova Launcher, Holo Launcher, Evie Launcher...
Audio, really good
Display is awesome
The OP3 has worse screen and the OP3T has a nicer front camera. The media speaker is HIDEOUS. But it works, and as long as you use headphones or something else you can forget that
Ask someone else about the Meizu. I prefer the Axon's design over any other asian design thogh

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This is like your third post already???
The front camera is kinda bad
The battery is okay, will last you enough unless the OS comes weird
Performance is okay
Android experience is okay. Want an app drawer? use Nova Launcher, Holo Launcher, Evie Launcher...
Audio, really good
Display is awesome
The OP3 has worse screen and the OP3T has a nicer front camera. The media speaker is HIDEOUS. But it works, and as long as you use headphones or something else you can forget that
Ask someone else about the Meizu. I prefer the Axon's design over any other asian design thogh
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Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper

Youssefmans said:
Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.

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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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Yes of course that matters , is it really that bad , I mean my note 5 used to lose signal from time to time when I'm in the bathroom listening to music :fingers-crossed:

Youssefmans said:
Yes of course that matters , is it really that bad , I mean my note 5 used to lose signal from time to time when I'm in the bathroom listening to music :fingers-crossed:
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It is... If you feel adventurous you can order an Axon 7, test it, then return it if it's excessively bad.
The US version of the Axon 7 has better signal reception, because the A2017U's SAR values are higher (you have more radiation, but the network performance is better).
Overall this means that you'll get -10 dB more than on other phones. Head over to Real life review --> Signal reception (or something along the lines), there some people compare their other phones to the Axon.

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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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What network coverage is lacking? I know people using it on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, and affiliate MVNOS. Don't know about Sprint, but who cares about Sprint? I've rescued many friends from Sprint.

ChazzMatt said:
What network coverage is lacking? I know people using it on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, and affiliate MVNOS. Don't know about Sprint, but who cares about Sprint? I've rescued many friends from Sprint.
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So what are your thoughts about cell reception of this phone , does it suck !!

Youssefmans said:
So what are your thoughts about cell reception of this phone , does it suck !!
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Best Buy in U.S. sells this phone. Here's 306 actual user reviews. 306. You can go read them. Has a 4.5 out of 5 stars rating and 92% of these actual buyers recommend this phone. Some post very detailed reviews about what they liked, didn't like. You can go read them. But over all of HUNDREDS of users, they really really like this phone.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/zte-axo...-unlocked-quartz-gray/5462400.p?skuId=5462400
There was an update, at least for U.S. users about six months ago that addressed boosting signal.
https://www.slashgear.com/zte-axon-7-update-brings-improved-battery-signal-performance-20456713/

ChazzMatt said:
Best Buy in U.S. sells this phone. Here's 306 actual user reviews. 306. You can go read them. Has a 4.5 out of 5 stars rating and 92% of these actual buyers recommend this phone. Some post very detailed reviews about what they liked, didn't like. You can go read them. But over all of HUNDREDS of users, they really really like this phone.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/zte-axo...-unlocked-quartz-gray/5462400.p?skuId=5462400
There was an update, at least for U.S. users about six months ago that addressed boosting signal.
https://www.slashgear.com/zte-axon-7-update-brings-improved-battery-signal-performance-20456713/
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Well the average customer won't notice that

Youssefmans said:
Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Never buy Meizu, every 3 month a new device, you'll get a Meizu Pro 8 plus Edge soon haha
The specs are good, but man the software and the support is a pain in the a**
I bought a Meizu Mx4, and OK it get the new Flyme 6 but based on Lollipop, i tried to understand why the Meizu 6 has Flyme 6 based on Marshmallow: it's a total mindf*cked
Don't even buy a Oppo, same problem
I'm very happy with the Axon 7, the specs are top noch, the camera is improving and battery life is decent...And the 2 DAC on it waw! But just look at the review for all the blabla
And unlike the 2 others, we have some european dev and they try to listen to the community

I have the US version since it became available and like it a lot, i use it on Verizon without any issues.
Its $350 on Amazon and has Amazon's 30 day return no questions asked if you're​ a prime member. Give it a try. ZTE had 30 day return policy too, not sure if that's still the case and not sure how it works.
Here's Amazon you can also check out for reviews. Almost 600 of them. ZTE Axon 7 Unlocked Smartphone,64GB Ion Gold (US Warranty) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUF1EL8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xKhczb9NC424X

To be honest, the network has improved a LOT for me since B19. And I live in an area with very bad cell reception. Couldn't get a decent 3G connection 90% of the time. After the update, I'm getting straight 4G dropping to 3G, though not very often.
Looking at the requirements you have, I'll bet you can't go wrong with the Axon 7. It is a terrific device to own.

You should get this phone. I'm not even thinking of replacing this phone, it has everything and there is no random reboots or lag and I'm running 2 sims and an extra sd card storage on my 128gb axon 7. No problems with signal or anything. Great battery also.
Get this phone and close the thread ?️
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Buy the Axon 7, for me personally it's the best smartphone I've ever owned.
I owned an LG G3, a OnePlus One, and an HTC One M9. All had some issues, probably the OnePlus One had the least. I custom ROM installed Resurrection Remix on all three phones.
Still didn't really work as well as I desired. The LG G3 and HTC One M9 were "AT&T bound" with all the crapware apps AT&T forces on the end-user, plus the useless apps LG and HTC installed.
Out of the box the Axon 7 is hands down, bar-none an excellent phone for money spent! It is now running the ZTE B25 software update which is Nougat v7.1.1
Two year warranty from ZTE also.
I use the stock Android option as I don't care for the MiFavor interface. For years I have used the NOVA Launcher and it's simply, IMHO, the best launcher around.
(Although I have messed around with Evie, I like it second best. Not enough of dock options though.)
The audio is the best, the design is top-notch, some don't like the hardware navigation buttons but after a while the "muscle memory" sets in.
The camera has improved with the updates on software. Battery life is very good.
Reception on the 4G LTE bands are very good for me. (I use AT&T service and in Austin TX it's the predominant carrier and coverage is great.)
Buy the Axon 7 and enjoy it! I believe you won't regret your decision one bit. Amazon currently has the best pricing at $359.99 for either the gold or grey versions.

[QESTION][SUGGESTION] Alternative For The OnePlus 5 ?

I don't know about you guys , but i'm disappointed by the OP5 ... and regretting the fact that i waited nearly a full year for it , now i need another phone , and i think most of you do as well , it's the main reason people didn't wanna return their phones , because there are no alternatives that has :
-Stock or Stock-ish android experience ( or dev community support for custom roms and all .. )
-overall great camera ( specially dual lenses , you can do great things with a dual shooter )
-high end specs ( SD835 , at least 6GB of RAM for heavy multitasking and installing a LOT of apps , bluetooth 5 , UFS 2,1 ... it is actually faster and has a significant impact on performance etc etc ... )
-Unlocked and multiband support ( i live in algeria ... u probably never heard of it , so no verison or AT&T ... )
i don't care about a 4K display , i was very please with that FHD amoled one
i don't care about bezels ... in fact i love them , they give more grip more protection and more natural look n feel
i don't care about SD card slots , i prefer putting all my data in one partition
i don't care about iris scanners or squeeze features ... BULL**** to me
i don't care about VR ... it's useless in out era IMO
i don't care about price , as long as it is not like 1000 dollars
i don't give that much importance to water resistance ... even though it will be appreciated
i don't give that much importance to design ... i want my phone to be beautiful but i don't care that it looks like another phone
i can't live without a phone that i can't root and fully customize and flash mods on and tune my audio and everything ... i never owned a flagship , all my life been running off of chineese phones with 1GB of ram and a MTK Soc but trust me i went far with em ... now i need a good phone .
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers

Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.

roba93 said:
Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers
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Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really

Kirahvi said:
Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.
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Yes that is exactly what's holding me back from it

ReyTheBoss said:
Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really
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Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
Cheers

Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.

roba93 said:
Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
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Not only it is expensive , but with an old chipset and less ram and the ugliest desing ever and back fingerprint sensor ... nah man
plus even if i wait for the pixel 2 ... that's gonna be like napalm for my wallet ! nah ...
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
thank you soo much for your help my friend

I think mine is dope

QAM said:
Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.
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First off , in 6 months of browsing in XDA , this is the best reply i have ever recieved :victory:
i am exactly like you , i could never agree more ... but i really don't like the other choices ... hear me out
1-the latest device of oppo is the OPPO R11 plus ... which is like the ****ing deformated twin brother of the OP5 : same design look but the OP5 looks better and feels more premium ...and lower specs ( snapdragon 660 ? srsly ? )
and i've never been a fan of oppo phones and their UI that craves to be IOS like ... so i can't really go with that .
2-ZTE axon 7 is a really great phone , but last year's great phone , i wanna buy a phone that i won't swap for like 2 years , and this one is already pretty old , and i honestly can't let go of the SD835 andreno 540 , 8gigs of ram , DUAL cam , bluetooth 5 , gorilla glass 5 , front mounted fingerprint scanner etc ... i don't give much importance to the front firing speaker because i don't use it that much ... but the audio quality over the jack is verryyyyy important to me , as i said i never go with a phone without a sound mod applied , but the ZTE axon 7 just seems lacking a lot of the features here so it ain't attrackting me
3-will never consider the 3T because the 5 has everything the 3T has in a better way ... straight up
4-pixel 2 is actually my only choice except the OP5 ... but the price is gonna be radioactive , and the wait till nov/dec is really not pleasing , as i said i am running over multiple chineese phones that are loow ****ing end ... can't take it anymore i need something good
now honestly i haate the Samsung eco system ... and i hate the bother of looking for universal versions just for convinience , plus i don't trust the exynos ones i'd rather take a Snapdragon , but those are the ones that u can't do anything to ... what a shame
i am also reading all the threads about the OP5 ... and the only thing that really gets to me is the camera , i have a dslr ... but i really wanna experience one of the best phone cameras , because u can pretty much guess based on the phones i use that their camera is more than trash ... i never actually use them ... so if they fix the camera next month i will probably pick one ... if not , maybe i'll wait for the pixel 2 ...
thank you very much for your help ! :highfive:

Rebel7022 said:
I think mine is dope
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how is your experience with the camera ?

ReyTheBoss said:
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
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Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.

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how is your experience with the camera ?
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I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera up & improve it

auntyvirus said:
Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.
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a bit agressive here but you are right ... it is just that the camera of the OP5 was supposed to be THE "feauture" , the whole marketing point , not the biggest flaw of the device ... and it's almost a deal breaker ...
plus this thread is for all people not just for me , i am positive that a lot of people are in the same spot as me
and i know how it'll go , either i accept the OP5 or patience and time will show :good:

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I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera & improve it
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cool my friend thank you for the reply ... i can't wait to please my flash addiction one i get my hand on it then

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a bit agressive here...
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It wasn't my intention to be aggressive or put anyone down. Rather it was to set expectations. You've asked a very good question. It's just that I doubt there's a good answer.
I've been looking for a replacement for my Nexus 5 for many months now. I finally decided to go with the OP5. Despite some minor quibbles, I'm keeping mine.
Yes, many people are in the same or similar situation as you. But if there was some other phone that had all of the positive features of the OP5, also addressed the negative ones, and cost no more than the OP5, I'm sure it would have been mentioned here. That it hasn't suggests either that (1) such a phone doesn't exist or that (2) everyone has their own individual set of criteria so no consensus can be reached.

ReyTheBoss said:
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers

Ale08 said:
I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers
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so again it goes back to the OnePlus 5 ... and all the criticism aside , it's a ****ing great phone , i might just stop *****ing about it and start seeing the good side of it XD that implies for everybody else :highfive:

Even though you don't care about any of the features that are distinguishing many of 2017's flagships, there are some that have those features and can still fit your criteria:
1. HTC U11. It is bootloader unlockable from the factory, so you can play with it to your hearts content.
2. Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Recently was added to their developer program, which will allow you to mod it, as well.
3. LG G6 US997. If in the US, this specific model has been added to the unlockable models list and LG tends to have a healthy following (even with the dreaded bootloop issue).
4. OnePlus 3T. As good as the OnePlus 5 in many ways and better in many others (no jelly like scrolling, massive custom development scene).
5. Google Pixel. No explanations necessary.

ReyTheBoss said:
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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www.kimovil.com is a pretty good page to compare and or find a phone that match your demands.
im more concerned about custom rom and developer community.

is it worth it to upgrade from nexus 6

i have my nexus 6 for quite some time now , but still i love it, but i feel like i need to upgrade , im not a heavy user , not really into photography, just need a daily driver that just works everytime and feel good to the hand , and a good finger print scaner as i ve never used one before , but seen some on cheap phones that work really bad .
any suggestion will be apreciated , thanks in advance , and have a great day

orgert said:
i have my nexus 6 for quite some time now , but still i love it, but i feel like i need to upgrade , im not a heavy user , not really into photography, just need a daily driver that just works everytime and feel good to the hand , and a good finger print scaner as i ve never used one before , but seen some on cheap phones that work really bad .
any suggestion will be apreciated , thanks in advance , and have a great day
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I also recently upgrade from my OnePlus One to Mi A1 2 days ago. I also don't game much, and currently I am very happy with it. (Or should I say the Pro's more than it's Cons)
The most important thing you need to be wary of is the 3.5mm jack. If you use 3.5mm jack a lot, I suggest you go for their official earphones or you use those big headphones. Otherwise you will be pretty much stuck with the "hissing sound" that produce by it. Currently it pairs with my In Ear Pro HD, and very satisfied with it.
Other than that no major problems with it. Although it lacks NFC and EIS/OIS is a huge bummer. But overall it's a great device all around.

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soralz said:
I also recently upgrade from my OnePlus One to Mi A1 2 days ago. I also don't game much, and currently I am very happy with it. (Or should I say the Pro's more than it's Cons)
The most important thing you need to be wary of is the 3.5mm jack. If you use 3.5mm jack a lot, I suggest you go for their official earphones or you use those big headphones. Otherwise you will be pretty much stuck with the "hissing sound" that produce by it. Currently it pairs with my In Ear Pro HD, and very satisfied with it.
Other than that no major problems with it. Although it lacks NFC and EIS/OIS is a huge bummer. But overall it's a great device all around.
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i dont really use the headphones, very rarely , i read about the hissing issue but not a big deal to me , as for nfc never used it , only thing im concerned is the build quality ,battery life and system updates ,things that i loved on my nexus 6 , as i've never seen the phone in real life , i dont know how it will feel in my hand , and the metal of the phone is it any good ? does it feel cheap ?

orgert said:
i have my nexus 6 for quite some time now , but still i love it, but i feel like i need to upgrade , im not a heavy user , not really into photography, just need a daily driver that just works everytime and feel good to the hand , and a good finger print scaner as i ve never used one before , but seen some on cheap phones that work really bad .
any suggestion will be apreciated , thanks in advance , and have a great day
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orgert said:
i dont really use the headphones, very rarely , i read about the hissing issue but not a big deal to me , as for nfc never used it , only thing im concerned is the build quality ,battery life and system updates ,things that i loved on my nexus 6 , as i've never seen the phone in real life , i dont know how it will feel in my hand , and the metal of the phone is it any good ? does it feel cheap ?
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About those 3 points you mentioned. Then it's the perfect device for you. And nope it doesn't feel cheap at all, feels solid and premium (although not made of out glass, probably I am coming from all plasticity device? lol). It's like holding a iPhone 7 in your hand tbh. If no one pay attention what phone are you holding, they shud probably guess it's a iPhone 7. Very similar design. Well battery life is very good, I have it for 2 days and the factory charge still not finish yet (got around 70% out of the box now sitting at 35%). Well about system updates, as expected from Google device. So yeah

hell yes

soralz said:
About those 3 points you mentioned. Then it's the perfect device for you. And nope it doesn't feel cheap at all, feels solid and premium (although not made of out glass, probably I am coming from all plasticity device? lol). It's like holding a iPhone 7 in your hand tbh. If no one pay attention what phone are you holding, they shud probably guess it's a iPhone 7. Very similar design. Well battery life is very good, I have it for 2 days and the factory charge still not finish yet (got around 70% out of the box now sitting at 35%). Well about system updates, as expected from Google device. So yeah
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I couldn't agree more! I am using a flipkart smartbuy rubber cover along with it and it covers up the xiaomi branding at the back and has no branding of its own.. So a couple of people at my office who saw the phone from the back asked if its iphone 7+!! Even otherwise the in hand feel, the audio quality and the potrait mode in camera are the best i have seen in a phone for a while!
And about the issues, the hissing sound issue does not exist for me.. So you might not even have it.. The lack of stabalization is a bummer but can be enabled with root access, though i wish xiaomi provides an update to enable it natively.

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I couldn't agree more! I am using a flipkart smartbuy rubber cover along with it and it covers up the xiaomi branding at the back and has no branding of its own.. So a couple of people at my office who saw the phone from the back asked if its iphone 7+!! Even otherwise the in hand feel, the audio quality and the potrait mode in camera are the best i have seen in a phone for a while!
And about the issues, the hissing sound issue does not exist for me.. So you might not even have it.. The lack of stabalization is a bummer but can be enabled with root access, though i wish xiaomi provides an update to enable it natively.
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i just ordered it on aliexpress , cant wait for it to arrive ! :laugh:

Congrats bro

orgert said:
i have my nexus 6 for quite some time now , but still i love it, but i feel like i need to upgrade , im not a heavy user , not really into photography, just need a daily driver that just works everytime and feel good to the hand , and a good finger print scaner as i ve never used one before , but seen some on cheap phones that work really bad .
any suggestion will be apreciated , thanks in advance , and have a great day
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Currently doing the same thing you do. I am still using my Nexus 6, but the battery is slowly dying - so it wasn't actually choice. I think the A1 is a very good, and also cheap choice. If you are not into photography, though, consider a Redmi Note 4 (the 4GB RAM / 64GB HD version). The Redmi Note 4 is identical (hardware-wise) to the A1 in all aspects but the camera (worse) and the battery (better / bigger), and it is available even cheaper (60€ for me, but I am actually into photography).

Can you make a mini review between nexus 6 and mi a1 (pros, cons) after a couple of days ?! Thx