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Is the phone good?

My 15 year old nephew wants a mobile. Main use will be music and free games. I was looking at Samsung Galaxy Mini and a user suggested this phone which seems to be available in India as Dell XCD35.
Is the phone good for the price.can he download and play games? How is ram and internal memory?
Would users suggest to but this phone?
I have read there are battery drain problems. Are these solved now?
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It's better than a galaxy mini because it has a better screen. Battery is as good as any other Android smartphone. 512mb ram & 512mb rom. The camera is poor, especially in low light & doesn't have any flash. Like the Galaxy mini it is a low end phone with a relatively slow armv6 cpu, so most games will work, but some of the more demanding 3D games wont work.
The ARMv6 cpu also means that it can't run the official version of Adobe Flash or Google Earth, or a few other apps.
Depending on what's available in your country & the prices it is probably the best phone for the money, but it can't compete with higher end phones (which are usually at least double the price).

yeah its a great phone
I love it. But realy you must install a custom rom because stock sucks much. Cm7 has a great battery life! I can have 2-3 days buut heavy use internet and games 1day. I love it for 130€ its great! Realy.

Thanks for the replies. I can understand that high end games won't run. But it seems a great value for money phone, the screen size and resolution are really impressive in specification, hope in reality too they are good. I will surely suggest this phone only.

Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.

lukesan said:
Well yes, also highly recommended by me.
I bought one while my HTC was in warranty repair and first I was a bit affraid that it would be crap. After a few weeks I found it to be an excellent phone.
Now I sold the ZTE to my father a couple of weeks ago and I started to miss it a week after, ... and I have a desire HD believe that?
I just ordered one in the Nederlands for 100 Euro which will arrive tomorrow and I am feeling happy again.
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Now I am firm that this is the phone to buy. Thanks everyone for their inputs.

The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!

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The phone is good(I think u might have bought it by now.) But watch out for Dead pixels on the screen, speaker clipping(the speaker flutters while playing songs that have bass), the white color status bar that makes a mark on the OLED screen, no loudspeaker in FM Radio app, no LED to show u missed calls(there is a back button led but doesn't flash), The phone OVERHEATS while charging, removing the back cover is like peeling off formica(plywood- whatever u call it) from ur table...
Otherwise its a really good phone. U can find workarounds for the above problems.
And BTW u can play HD high end games...
I still love this phone!!
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A couple of thoughts about that one.
Dead pixels. Haven't seen one of the 10 Blades I saw.
Speaker clipping. Well the thing is at least 5 times as loud as my Desire HD and the sound of the speaker has some body.
No led, true but also alot of other phones have the same issue.
New ones use LCD not Oled, the quality of the screen is very very good.
The back, well yes, but I rather have a back were RF signals like wifi, gps etc can get thru. Wipes the floor with my Desire HD in terms of wifi, gps, phone signal and speaker

The dead pixels are somethings u really have to look for on a black background. You may have them but not even notice. About the speaker-> listen to something like Sun Is Up by Inna and you'll see how it clips. And I might have been wrong with oled or lcd... mine is TFT(Gen 2){Just saw that on the net}.

I have to agree that this phone is value for money! Overheating while charging is not much of a problem, but it`s fact. The only thing that I think the phone lacks is battery life, its poor while playing games or browsing /especially on 3G/. I`ve seen worst 3.2px cameras, so I think its barable (Using Camera 360 improves picture quality for me). As a whole, its a great phone for a great price!

I liked this phone so much when I got it that I'm now stuck with 3 of them. Blade was my first Android phone and while it was a cheap one, it was still better than any of the Nokia phones I had previously owned. Like many have mentioned, it does lack in some fronts, camera is just utterly horrible, pretty much the only thing it's good for is barcode scanning, so if you want to take decent (or even good photos), better grab a real camera with you. The speaker in Blade is INCREDIBLY good! It's the best I've heard so far and I've had way more expensive phones.

Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)

jesrani said:
Wow, thanks for the good reports everyone. But the budget is increasing so I was looking for alternatives.
Thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy Y S5360 or Vodafone Smart 858 U8160 (not sure if it will work for non-vodafone SIM)
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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.

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The problem with that is those two phones are much worse than the Blade. Especially the U8160, they are terrible.
You have to spend double the Blade's price to get anything significantly better & you could easily pay 50% more for a worse phone.
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I can confirm that. Great for the money!!!

[HELP] Hurry , Please help me to choose !!!

Hey Folks,
So I'm about to buy my new smartphone to replace the old broken one.
But I'm really confused which one to buy, after some research , I found this 3 smartphones , The OP3 , Meizu Pro 6 plus , Axon 7.
I haven't find any real review comparing these smartphones side by side so I'm looking for your advice to help me choose the best .
My main concerns are :
-Beautiful and vibrant display for movies,youtube,... maybe vr .
-Good audio and crisp sound.
-Performance ( day to day tasks , and maybe gaming from time to time).
-Battery , I expect a full day of usage .
-Good Camera not the best but decent for social media. I don't care about low light .
-Best android experience (not stock experience) , without bugs and lags .
That's it , Please help me and thanks in advance.

Youssefmans said:
Hey Folks,
So I'm about to buy my new smartphone to replace the old broken one.
But I'm really confused which one to buy, after some research , I found this 3 smartphones , The OP3 , Meizu Pro 6 plus , Axon 7.
I haven't find any real review comparing these smartphones side by side so I'm looking for your advice to help me choose the best .
My main concerns are :
-Beautiful and vibrant display for movies,youtube,... maybe vr .
-Good audio and crisp sound.
-Performance ( day to day tasks , and maybe gaming from time to time).
-Battery , I expect a full day of usage .
-Good Camera not the best but decent for social media. I don't care about low light .
-Best android experience (not stock experience) , without bugs and lags .
That's it , Please help me and thanks in advance.
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This is like your third post already???
The front camera is kinda bad
The battery is okay, will last you enough unless the OS comes weird
Performance is okay
Android experience is okay. Want an app drawer? use Nova Launcher, Holo Launcher, Evie Launcher...
Audio, really good
Display is awesome
The OP3 has worse screen and the OP3T has a nicer front camera. The media speaker is HIDEOUS. But it works, and as long as you use headphones or something else you can forget that
Ask someone else about the Meizu. I prefer the Axon's design over any other asian design thogh

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This is like your third post already???
The front camera is kinda bad
The battery is okay, will last you enough unless the OS comes weird
Performance is okay
Android experience is okay. Want an app drawer? use Nova Launcher, Holo Launcher, Evie Launcher...
Audio, really good
Display is awesome
The OP3 has worse screen and the OP3T has a nicer front camera. The media speaker is HIDEOUS. But it works, and as long as you use headphones or something else you can forget that
Ask someone else about the Meizu. I prefer the Axon's design over any other asian design thogh
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Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper

Youssefmans said:
Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.

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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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Yes of course that matters , is it really that bad , I mean my note 5 used to lose signal from time to time when I'm in the bathroom listening to music :fingers-crossed:

Youssefmans said:
Yes of course that matters , is it really that bad , I mean my note 5 used to lose signal from time to time when I'm in the bathroom listening to music :fingers-crossed:
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It is... If you feel adventurous you can order an Axon 7, test it, then return it if it's excessively bad.
The US version of the Axon 7 has better signal reception, because the A2017U's SAR values are higher (you have more radiation, but the network performance is better).
Overall this means that you'll get -10 dB more than on other phones. Head over to Real life review --> Signal reception (or something along the lines), there some people compare their other phones to the Axon.

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Do you care about network coverage? This phone is lacking on that regard.
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What network coverage is lacking? I know people using it on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, and affiliate MVNOS. Don't know about Sprint, but who cares about Sprint? I've rescued many friends from Sprint.

ChazzMatt said:
What network coverage is lacking? I know people using it on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile, and affiliate MVNOS. Don't know about Sprint, but who cares about Sprint? I've rescued many friends from Sprint.
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So what are your thoughts about cell reception of this phone , does it suck !!

Youssefmans said:
So what are your thoughts about cell reception of this phone , does it suck !!
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Best Buy in U.S. sells this phone. Here's 306 actual user reviews. 306. You can go read them. Has a 4.5 out of 5 stars rating and 92% of these actual buyers recommend this phone. Some post very detailed reviews about what they liked, didn't like. You can go read them. But over all of HUNDREDS of users, they really really like this phone.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/zte-axo...-unlocked-quartz-gray/5462400.p?skuId=5462400
There was an update, at least for U.S. users about six months ago that addressed boosting signal.
https://www.slashgear.com/zte-axon-7-update-brings-improved-battery-signal-performance-20456713/

ChazzMatt said:
Best Buy in U.S. sells this phone. Here's 306 actual user reviews. 306. You can go read them. Has a 4.5 out of 5 stars rating and 92% of these actual buyers recommend this phone. Some post very detailed reviews about what they liked, didn't like. You can go read them. But over all of HUNDREDS of users, they really really like this phone.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/zte-axo...-unlocked-quartz-gray/5462400.p?skuId=5462400
There was an update, at least for U.S. users about six months ago that addressed boosting signal.
https://www.slashgear.com/zte-axon-7-update-brings-improved-battery-signal-performance-20456713/
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Well the average customer won't notice that

Youssefmans said:
Thanks bro , Yeah I know but i'm still confused it's a hard choice . I asked in another forum and someone told me to think about the Meizu pro 6 Plus as it has a good specs on paper
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Never buy Meizu, every 3 month a new device, you'll get a Meizu Pro 8 plus Edge soon haha
The specs are good, but man the software and the support is a pain in the a**
I bought a Meizu Mx4, and OK it get the new Flyme 6 but based on Lollipop, i tried to understand why the Meizu 6 has Flyme 6 based on Marshmallow: it's a total mindf*cked
Don't even buy a Oppo, same problem
I'm very happy with the Axon 7, the specs are top noch, the camera is improving and battery life is decent...And the 2 DAC on it waw! But just look at the review for all the blabla
And unlike the 2 others, we have some european dev and they try to listen to the community

I have the US version since it became available and like it a lot, i use it on Verizon without any issues.
Its $350 on Amazon and has Amazon's 30 day return no questions asked if you're​ a prime member. Give it a try. ZTE had 30 day return policy too, not sure if that's still the case and not sure how it works.
Here's Amazon you can also check out for reviews. Almost 600 of them. ZTE Axon 7 Unlocked Smartphone,64GB Ion Gold (US Warranty) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01FUF1EL8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_xKhczb9NC424X

To be honest, the network has improved a LOT for me since B19. And I live in an area with very bad cell reception. Couldn't get a decent 3G connection 90% of the time. After the update, I'm getting straight 4G dropping to 3G, though not very often.
Looking at the requirements you have, I'll bet you can't go wrong with the Axon 7. It is a terrific device to own.

You should get this phone. I'm not even thinking of replacing this phone, it has everything and there is no random reboots or lag and I'm running 2 sims and an extra sd card storage on my 128gb axon 7. No problems with signal or anything. Great battery also.
Get this phone and close the thread ?️
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Buy the Axon 7, for me personally it's the best smartphone I've ever owned.
I owned an LG G3, a OnePlus One, and an HTC One M9. All had some issues, probably the OnePlus One had the least. I custom ROM installed Resurrection Remix on all three phones.
Still didn't really work as well as I desired. The LG G3 and HTC One M9 were "AT&T bound" with all the crapware apps AT&T forces on the end-user, plus the useless apps LG and HTC installed.
Out of the box the Axon 7 is hands down, bar-none an excellent phone for money spent! It is now running the ZTE B25 software update which is Nougat v7.1.1
Two year warranty from ZTE also.
I use the stock Android option as I don't care for the MiFavor interface. For years I have used the NOVA Launcher and it's simply, IMHO, the best launcher around.
(Although I have messed around with Evie, I like it second best. Not enough of dock options though.)
The audio is the best, the design is top-notch, some don't like the hardware navigation buttons but after a while the "muscle memory" sets in.
The camera has improved with the updates on software. Battery life is very good.
Reception on the 4G LTE bands are very good for me. (I use AT&T service and in Austin TX it's the predominant carrier and coverage is great.)
Buy the Axon 7 and enjoy it! I believe you won't regret your decision one bit. Amazon currently has the best pricing at $359.99 for either the gold or grey versions.

[QESTION][SUGGESTION] Alternative For The OnePlus 5 ?

I don't know about you guys , but i'm disappointed by the OP5 ... and regretting the fact that i waited nearly a full year for it , now i need another phone , and i think most of you do as well , it's the main reason people didn't wanna return their phones , because there are no alternatives that has :
-Stock or Stock-ish android experience ( or dev community support for custom roms and all .. )
-overall great camera ( specially dual lenses , you can do great things with a dual shooter )
-high end specs ( SD835 , at least 6GB of RAM for heavy multitasking and installing a LOT of apps , bluetooth 5 , UFS 2,1 ... it is actually faster and has a significant impact on performance etc etc ... )
-Unlocked and multiband support ( i live in algeria ... u probably never heard of it , so no verison or AT&T ... )
i don't care about a 4K display , i was very please with that FHD amoled one
i don't care about bezels ... in fact i love them , they give more grip more protection and more natural look n feel
i don't care about SD card slots , i prefer putting all my data in one partition
i don't care about iris scanners or squeeze features ... BULL**** to me
i don't care about VR ... it's useless in out era IMO
i don't care about price , as long as it is not like 1000 dollars
i don't give that much importance to water resistance ... even though it will be appreciated
i don't give that much importance to design ... i want my phone to be beautiful but i don't care that it looks like another phone
i can't live without a phone that i can't root and fully customize and flash mods on and tune my audio and everything ... i never owned a flagship , all my life been running off of chineese phones with 1GB of ram and a MTK Soc but trust me i went far with em ... now i need a good phone .
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers

Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.

roba93 said:
Hmm You can take a look at Motorola or xaomi are pretty close to Google stock. May i ask what flaws you have with the op5? I owned It a week now and battery / performance is awsome.
Cheers
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Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really

Kirahvi said:
Lackluster cameras and a jelly screen.
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Yes that is exactly what's holding me back from it

ReyTheBoss said:
Since the moment i heard about it i knew it was gonna be the PERFECT phone for me ... but the jello effect and the camera are kinda putting me dowwnn , like really
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Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
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Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.

roba93 said:
Hmm thats to bad. Personaly i dont see the jelly effect, could be my eyes or my phone does not have it haha. Camera is fine for my needs. But Will improve alot with software updates.
I think for the same experience with better camera and no jelly it would be the Google pixel. But Its an expensive choice
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Not only it is expensive , but with an old chipset and less ram and the ugliest desing ever and back fingerprint sensor ... nah man
plus even if i wait for the pixel 2 ... that's gonna be like napalm for my wallet ! nah ...
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
thank you soo much for your help my friend

I think mine is dope

QAM said:
Hola
I think that I can empathize with your sentiments on this device. I also refuse to utilise any new phone that does not provide me with an unlocked bootloader and sources for their kernel or firmware, which in turn hopefully gives way to a vibrant development community.
You can consider:
1. Devices from OPPO. They do provide some decent specs for their higher tiered devices, and I understand, like OnePlus, they have a decent active development community.
2. ZTE Axon 7. Yes, last year's specifications but man those dual firing front speakers are awesome as is the screen and phone build. Development is there though only a few active developers are around. I honestly believe it was the best phone of last year for the specs it had with ability to at least get LOS and RR official support! I was using the Axon 7 before I switched to the OnePlus 5.
3. Crazy as it sounds, but the OnePlus 3T might be a decent alternative. Getting one used might be your best bet.
4. You may have to wait for the Pixel 2 series later in November / December if you want decent specs, good camera, and an proper development support.
While indeed hardware specs are super important, I have come to realise after using a number of flagship devices from Samsung and others that if the hardware doesn't have the open community behind it, IMHO the phone is a flop! Samsung Galaxy S series does have the ability to unlock the bootloader in certain regions, the hardware specs are usually top notch, but man I hate TouchWiz and the inability to utilize LOS or RR custom ROMs. Xiaomi phones are decently priced and certain phones get good community development like the Global version of the Redmi Note 4 but the hardware specs are many time mediocre. I would get a Global Redmi Note 4 as a secondary phone just in case my main phone got damaged or lost.
I am reading each and every post here on the OnePlus 5, seeing all the known issues, and the accompanying hate, but those listed issues won't be enough for me to switch yet. I am patiently waiting on our great developers to start providing some kickass custom ROMs.
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First off , in 6 months of browsing in XDA , this is the best reply i have ever recieved :victory:
i am exactly like you , i could never agree more ... but i really don't like the other choices ... hear me out
1-the latest device of oppo is the OPPO R11 plus ... which is like the ****ing deformated twin brother of the OP5 : same design look but the OP5 looks better and feels more premium ...and lower specs ( snapdragon 660 ? srsly ? )
and i've never been a fan of oppo phones and their UI that craves to be IOS like ... so i can't really go with that .
2-ZTE axon 7 is a really great phone , but last year's great phone , i wanna buy a phone that i won't swap for like 2 years , and this one is already pretty old , and i honestly can't let go of the SD835 andreno 540 , 8gigs of ram , DUAL cam , bluetooth 5 , gorilla glass 5 , front mounted fingerprint scanner etc ... i don't give much importance to the front firing speaker because i don't use it that much ... but the audio quality over the jack is verryyyyy important to me , as i said i never go with a phone without a sound mod applied , but the ZTE axon 7 just seems lacking a lot of the features here so it ain't attrackting me
3-will never consider the 3T because the 5 has everything the 3T has in a better way ... straight up
4-pixel 2 is actually my only choice except the OP5 ... but the price is gonna be radioactive , and the wait till nov/dec is really not pleasing , as i said i am running over multiple chineese phones that are loow ****ing end ... can't take it anymore i need something good
now honestly i haate the Samsung eco system ... and i hate the bother of looking for universal versions just for convinience , plus i don't trust the exynos ones i'd rather take a Snapdragon , but those are the ones that u can't do anything to ... what a shame
i am also reading all the threads about the OP5 ... and the only thing that really gets to me is the camera , i have a dslr ... but i really wanna experience one of the best phone cameras , because u can pretty much guess based on the phones i use that their camera is more than trash ... i never actually use them ... so if they fix the camera next month i will probably pick one ... if not , maybe i'll wait for the pixel 2 ...
thank you very much for your help ! :highfive:

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I think mine is dope
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how is your experience with the camera ?

ReyTheBoss said:
if it was that easy i wouldn't have created this thread
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Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.

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how is your experience with the camera ?
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I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera up & improve it

auntyvirus said:
Newsflash! No matter what phone you choose (or wait for) there's likely going to be some aspect(s) that you don't like. There's also going to be some aspect(s) that delight you.
The design of every phone is a set of compromises. That reality also means that some people will be disappointed with some of those compromise decisions.
The only advice I can offer is to find something whose compromises you can live with. For me that happens to be the OP5--despite some of the compromises they made.
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a bit agressive here but you are right ... it is just that the camera of the OP5 was supposed to be THE "feauture" , the whole marketing point , not the biggest flaw of the device ... and it's almost a deal breaker ...
plus this thread is for all people not just for me , i am positive that a lot of people are in the same spot as me
and i know how it'll go , either i accept the OP5 or patience and time will show :good:

Rebel7022 said:
I like flashing roms and dash, I'm not into taking pics, so I don't care about the camera. I do like the camera though it's pretty good, I'm sure a dev will hook the camera & improve it
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cool my friend thank you for the reply ... i can't wait to please my flash addiction one i get my hand on it then

ReyTheBoss said:
a bit agressive here...
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It wasn't my intention to be aggressive or put anyone down. Rather it was to set expectations. You've asked a very good question. It's just that I doubt there's a good answer.
I've been looking for a replacement for my Nexus 5 for many months now. I finally decided to go with the OP5. Despite some minor quibbles, I'm keeping mine.
Yes, many people are in the same or similar situation as you. But if there was some other phone that had all of the positive features of the OP5, also addressed the negative ones, and cost no more than the OP5, I'm sure it would have been mentioned here. That it hasn't suggests either that (1) such a phone doesn't exist or that (2) everyone has their own individual set of criteria so no consensus can be reached.

ReyTheBoss said:
by the things i said the OP5 will be perfect , but just too much flaws man ..
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers

Ale08 said:
I feel your point, 95% I agree with your analisys.
Moreover I need a dual SIM phone, and unlocked: my job obligates me to travel around the world, and I need to put a "local SIM" in order to get everywhere an internet connection, with acceptable costs.
If not OP5................. I could get:
Xiaomi, Galaxy S8 duos , Lenovo(Motorola), some Honor/Huawei.
I am based in Europe, Italy, that means:
not all Xiaomi support Italian 4G-LTE band, it sucks
Galaxy S8 duos in Italy is an import product... with delay in delivery and possible problem with warranty
Lenovo Honor and Huawei could be OK, but personally I feel not at the same level of OP5, in specs-performance.
At the end... when I will have the OP5 in my hand (in 2 weeks) I hope it totally satisfy myself, because ATM I have NO other options.
Crossed fingers
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so again it goes back to the OnePlus 5 ... and all the criticism aside , it's a ****ing great phone , i might just stop *****ing about it and start seeing the good side of it XD that implies for everybody else :highfive:

Even though you don't care about any of the features that are distinguishing many of 2017's flagships, there are some that have those features and can still fit your criteria:
1. HTC U11. It is bootloader unlockable from the factory, so you can play with it to your hearts content.
2. Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Recently was added to their developer program, which will allow you to mod it, as well.
3. LG G6 US997. If in the US, this specific model has been added to the unlockable models list and LG tends to have a healthy following (even with the dreaded bootloop issue).
4. OnePlus 3T. As good as the OnePlus 5 in many ways and better in many others (no jelly like scrolling, massive custom development scene).
5. Google Pixel. No explanations necessary.

ReyTheBoss said:
i am sure a lot of people are like me so please help
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www.kimovil.com is a pretty good page to compare and or find a phone that match your demands.
im more concerned about custom rom and developer community.

Best phone to upgrade to after note 4 ? ( Discussion )

Hi fellows !
So I had my n910c for more than 2.5 years now and my worst problem is that I am bored of it .
The phone is still perfect for what I need : big screen, ok battery (I got a new one in 2017), ok sound (very loud), S pen is cool and all so I can't find any legit reason to upgrade for now .
But next year I will definitely replace it (if not for any good reason, just to have something new lol) so I was looking at this year end phablets and don't like the new trends at all . Pretty much every phone out there is 18:9 or worse (I hate 18:9 cause it's bad for youtube, many games(read hearthstone) and twitch - my favorite 3 activities), lost the removable battery and get exponentially more expensive than 2-3 years ago . The only 2 phones I like are mate 10 (regular version) and razer phone (pretty much the only ones that still have big screen with proper aspect ratio and acceptable price tag) .
Let's discuss: What are your thoughts about current smartphones ? Did you recently upgrade or plan to ?

I never got rid of my Note 4.
It's the best phone I've ever had.
I bought a Mate 9 which was excellent... No pen.
Bought Xiaomi Mi6 - VERY sexy, too small.
OnePlus 3T - very fast, rapid software updates completely different approach
Htc U11 - Marvelous device, great technology, good camera, again very different approach.
The Note 4 stand out in all aspects. Though it's old, I still use it everyday. I bought multiple batteries so really, I'm keeping it as long as I can.
Not worth selling, just keep it and buy another phone. The Note 8 I think it's too expensive for now.... And a little too safe, as are the Mate 10 & 10 pro, so I'm going to wait a year and see.
Good luck.

r33fd said:
Hi fellows !
So I had my n910c for more than 2.5 years now and my worst problem is that I am bored of it .
The phone is still perfect for what I need : big screen, ok battery (I got a new one in 2017), ok sound (very loud), S pen is cool and all so I can't find any legit reason to upgrade for now .
But next year I will definitely replace it (if not for any good reason, just to have something new lol) so I was looking at this year end phablets and don't like the new trends at all . Pretty much every phone out there is 18:9 or worse (I hate 18:9 cause it's bad for youtube, many games(read hearthstone) and twitch - my favorite 3 activities), lost the removable battery and get exponentially more expensive than 2-3 years ago . The only 2 phones I like are mate 10 (regular version) and razer phone (pretty much the only ones that still have big screen with proper aspect ratio and acceptable price tag) .
Let's discuss: What are your thoughts about current smartphones ? Did you recently upgrade or plan to ?
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If you don't miss the pen, get the V20. It's an upgrade in terms of everything, and the software is better. Sure the screen isn't as saturated, but it's great otherwise. And it does have KCAL-enabled kernels.
I personally will still keep my N910S though. Extremely smooth with PRIME-Kernel, stock ROMs and proper kernel settings.

Razor... hands down.

I'd get the Note 8 as I am a AMOLED fanboy.

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Razor... hands down.
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I was really hyped about it too .
But then I read reviews and the display quality and battery life are terrible, most likely worse than note 4 even . (Actually very few new phones can claim a better display quality than note 4 anyway, only new Samsung are really better - in brightness mostly)
This year there really isn't any device to rule them all .
The best phone this year imo is probably mate 10 pro . cause it has the best battery on any flagship and really nice features (ir blaster, stereo speakers etc) . But even this has some disadvantages compared to our beloved note (smaller screen real estate in most important apps right now, no S pen obviously, no 3.5 jack! , no SD card, no removable battery (this is beyond hope at this point) .
For me if I'm not going to buy a note next (which I probably won't cause the price/quality is not great) I might as well get anything cause they all do the same thing more or less . (Nothing compares to S pen .)
Will probably wait for a nice budget offering to appear till next year . Fingers crossed for oneplus 5t and Honor v10 to be good phones and low on price .

Hi!
I just was asking myself the same question, since sadly my Note 4 broke down.
A smartphone without pen is no alternative for me, since I have long fingernails and can’t really use today’s standard touchscreens.
I first wanted to just buy the Note 4 again. When I looked up the prices on Amazon.de, the black one (new) was at ~350€, the white one at ~400€. Wow, and that for a three year old model? I looked at the Note 8 and it was 850€ then. Holy sh**t.
My Note 4 started working again for a week, so I thought I might be safe. Then it died again, maybe forever (yeah, I checked the forum, nothing works, just plain dead).
So I went to Amazon again… and the black Note 4 was at ~400€ now, the white (my original one) at ~550€! Wtf happened? Maybe Samsung bought all the old models to push the Note 8?
Note 8 had dropped to 800€ so I thought I’d give it a try without really reading anything about it.
I have it since yesterday and my first ten minutes were like “who the hell designed this”.
You need to push in the pen before you then can pull it out.
The finger print reader is hidden on the back, next to the camera, I need five times to find it.
SIM card / SD card in some tiny tray not designed for clumsy people (you need an extra metal pin thingy, pretty sure easy to loose)
With the pen it is a bit tricky to move around items on the homescreen due to the edges of the screen.
Slippery back surface.
Built in battery.
Ridiculous size.
On the plus side:
the biometrical recognition is cool (while unsafe-ish),
it’s waterproof,
excellent (!) screen.
For its size it is very light.
The new OS is really nice.
Battery life is good.
And it has a pen again.
After using it for a few days I got used to it and kinda could warm up to the device… the fingerprint reader is driving me nuts, but the size is really convenient after a while.
However "I can get used to it" is not something I pay 800€ for.
I ordered a used Note 4 for 300€ and will send the Note 8 back once it arrives. Then I will watch the price and may buy it at around ~500€.
tl;dr:
If you don’t care for money and just love new stuff, I can recommend checking the Note 8 out.
If you just want a decent phone, stick to your Note 4 and be happy with it.
Regards
cherryfish

If there was a better phone, I would have bought it, but unfortunately I can't find one.
Oneplus 5T looks nice, but it's bigger than Note, I won't buy any phone that's even one mm larger than note 4.
Note 8 is way too tall and narrow. And expensive.
LG V30 looks the best alternative, but it's not widely available and has no S-pen, as nearly every other phone.
Note 4 is getting old and I would surely like to make a change, but I can't find a proper replacement. I really don't know!

r33fd said:
I was really hyped about it too .
But then I read reviews and the display quality and battery life are terrible, most likely worse than note 4 even . (Actually very few new phones can claim a better display quality than note 4 anyway, only new Samsung are really better - in brightness mostly)
This year there really isn't any device to rule them all .
The best phone this year imo is probably mate 10 pro . cause it has the best battery on any flagship and really nice features (ir blaster, stereo speakers etc) . But even this has some disadvantages compared to our beloved note (smaller screen real estate in most important apps right now, no S pen obviously, no 3.5 jack! , no SD card, no removable battery (this is beyond hope at this point) .
For me if I'm not going to buy a note next (which I probably won't cause the price/quality is not great) I might as well get anything cause they all do the same thing more or less . (Nothing compares to S pen .)
Will probably wait for a nice budget offering to appear till next year . Fingers crossed for oneplus 5t and Honor v10 to be good phones and low on price .
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It's a device built for gaming first, then smartphone... and software is built to take full advantage of hardware. Battery size is very good and display is built with only techno that can take advantage of high refresh rate. With all that said software adjustment are built in to extend battery when not gaming. I love this phone. More notably, I love the idea of this phone.

phamanhvu01 said:
If you don't miss the pen, get the V20. It's an upgrade in terms of everything, and the software is better. Sure the screen isn't as saturated, but it's great otherwise. And it does have KCAL-enabled kernels.
I personally will still keep my N910S though. Extremely smooth with PRIME-Kernel, stock ROMs and proper kernel settings.
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this. if i didn't have the note 4, the V20 would have been my choice. last flagship phone with removable battery . the hifi dac is a plus too.

I recently moved from Note 3 to Note 4 ... not because my Note 3 was having any issue... just because I figured there aren't go to be many gently used Note 4's up for sale in the next couple years, so grabbed a nearly new one while I could!
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
- excellent build quality and repairability
- removable battery
- headphone jack
- pen
- able to install Lineage ROM
I've been hoping consumer backlash would force vendors to return to a removable batter and headphone jack, but no... lemmings will be lemmings.

It's a problem. I still love my Note 4 but, like the OP, am ready to try something new. I've ordered the Mate 10 (regular), as it seemed to check the most boxes I care about: IR blaster, expandable storage, super-long battery life, front-facing fingerprint sensor that can double as a touchpad, splash-resistant, 3.1 Type C USB, dual-sim, and same size (but 10 grams heavier) as the Note 4. Excellent sound and excellent camera (Leica). And comes with Oreo. But no S-pen and no replaceable battery. So we'll see. Not putting the Note 4 on ebay yet!

canada_dry said:
I recently moved from Note 3 to Note 4 ... not because my Note 3 was having any issue... just because I figured there aren't go to be many gently used Note 4's up for sale in the next couple years, so grabbed a nearly new one while I could!
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
- excellent build quality and repairability
- removable battery
- headphone jack
- pen
- able to install Lineage ROM
I've been hoping consumer backlash would force vendors to return to a removable batter and headphone jack, but no... lemmings will be lemmings.
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Unfortunately, Many of those lemmings reside right here on XDA now days. It was extremely sad to see members vehemently defend Samsung's decision to remove the battery, lR sensor, and SD card in the note 5... Then later defend the decision to lock the bootloader on later Samsung devices.
Wake TF up people!

I'm still loving the Note 4. Rooted, audio boosted, Titanium Backup installed, 256gb SD card and of course a spare battery in my wallet to go back to 100% charge in less than a minute.
I have noticed many of the 8 series Samsungs are getting really bad screen burn, no such issue with the Note 4 AMOLED panel.
I have a brand new one sitting in a cupboard in case anything happens to this one.
Everyone wants a bigger (or removable) battery and literally no-one wants waterproofing but all the manufacturers follow trends so that's where we're at. The Note 8 is truly horrible.

kradcliffe said:
Everyone wants a bigger (or removable) battery and literally no-one wants waterproofing but all the manufacturers follow trends so that's where we're at. The Note 8 is truly horrible.
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waterproofing is for latin america (or america in general), as theres lots of humidity and heavy rains over there. In europe we don't need it much, except for those that tend to drop their devices in a bath.

canada_dry said:
I recently moved from Note 3 to Note 4 ... not because my Note 3 was having any issue... just because I figured there aren't go to be many gently used Note 4's up for sale in the next couple years, so grabbed a nearly new one while I could!
I know I'm preaching to the choir, but:
- excellent build quality and repairability
- removable battery
- headphone jack
- pen
- able to install Lineage ROM
I've been hoping consumer backlash would force vendors to return to a removable batter and headphone jack, but no... lemmings will be lemmings.
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Same here! I still haven't gotten rid of my Note 3 though. It's running a custom ROM (Note 7 port) and my Note 4 is running stock for now.
My Note 3 is brand new and my Note 4 I bought used.
Both have their pro's and con's

The Note 4 has a lot of flaws... poor battery life (probably common to android) and poor build quality, but there's nothing else like it on the market.
There is a big gap in the market for a smartphone with a stylus and a 16:9 flat screen. Now that Samsung is curving all of its screens another manufacturer will have to take over.

CSMR said:
The Note 4 has a lot of flaws... poor battery life (probably common to android) and poor build quality, but there's nothing else like it on the market.
There is a big gap in the market for a smartphone with a stylus and a 16:9 flat screen. Now that Samsung is curving all of its screens another manufacturer will have to take over.
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I don't agree about the battery life .
It might be because you have an old battery but I have one from 2017 and it lasts pretty well . For example today I was at 45 percent with over 3.5 h SoT and 2 days of usage . I think that is more than decent even if not the best out there . Also if I just use the stylus to write in the note app the battery lasts forever .
The build quality is just fine, never had a problem with it in more than 2,5 years . Definitely better than the glass we see everywhere . As long as you don't drop it into water it should be fine .
That's why I can't justify spending money to buy a new phone yet : there just isn't anything I can complain much about the note . I wish I had the newest SoC and camera sure, but the ones on the note are still more than well suited for what I need . Other than that this phone is still perfect for me: the display is one of the best in the market still (don't need that 18/9 gimmick) , the speaker still one of the loudest and clearest (better than the latest samsungs for sure) , and with root the software can do pretty much anything I can think of .
I might just keep this phone until it dies or something exceptional appears. Really hope the s9 comes with loud (stereo) speakers (poor audio is a deal breaker for me) and maybe a more solid material (glass is so fragile - it's a shame to spend a bucket of money on a luxurious smartphone only to hide it into a case , that's just stupid , I never used a case on note 4 and it's still in great shape) .

r33fd said:
I don't agree about the battery life .
It might be because you have an old battery but I have one from 2017 and it lasts pretty well . For example today I was at 45 percent with over 3.5 h SoT and 2 days of usage . I think that is more than decent even if not the best out there . Also if I just use the stylus to write in the note app the battery lasts forever .
The build quality is just fine, never had a problem with it in more than 2,5 years . Definitely better than the glass we see everywhere . As long as you don't drop it into water it should be fine .
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I migrated from a Lumia 1520, even older than the Note 4 and from defunct Windows Mobile platform. Battery life of the Note 4 is less than half even with a new battery, gets hot from easy tasks, and it feels much cheaper. It does have a stylus, and all the apps though. I think the market is just not that great for power users at the moment so we stay on old phones.

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I migrated from a Lumia 1520, even older than the Note 4 and from defunct Windows Mobile platform. Battery life of the Note 4 is less than half even with a new battery, gets hot from easy tasks, and it feels much cheaper. It does have a stylus, and all the apps though. I think the market is just not that great for power users at the moment so we stay on old phones.
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You are right . The lumia has an outstanding battery . I saw on GSM arena it had a score over 105h endurance . You just can't get that with android . Even something like a mate 10 pro scores over 10h less due to the power hungry os .
Hopefully next your will be better for power users .

buying a blackshark 2 right now....worth it ?

So kid smashed my phone. Need something as a stop gap. Came across this beast. Its cheap (280ish), looks good, like the idea of a game mode, properly done. But keep seeing people complain about android 10 ?
So whats the deal with this phone, from the owners. Is it good, is it worth it, the reviews look good, but how actually is it. for updates and stability

barra0205 said:
So kid smashed my phone. Need something as a stop gap. Came across this beast. Its cheap (280ish), looks good, like the idea of a game mode, properly done. But keep seeing people complain about android 10 ?
So whats the deal with this phone, from the owners. Is it good, is it worth it, the reviews look good, but how actually is it. for updates and stability
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Hi,
Im pretty satisfied with my BlackShark2 (not pro). I have version with 6gb of ram and 128gb of storage. Device works like a charm for me and i rarely use it as gaming device, only when i stream my ps4 when TV is occupied. ? Cameras are pretty good to for normal use and sound is amazing both on speakers and on headphones. For that price i think that there is no better device. Build quality is just top, in hand feels better than any premium samsung device.
Hope this helps you to decide. ?

Thank you dude, any issues with Android 10 on it ?

barra0205 said:
Thank you dude, any issues with Android 10 on it ?
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I haven't had any big problem since the update, just the typical MIUI stuff, for example when I listening to music the app sometimes close itself until I lock it from recent apps

barra0205 said:
Thank you dude, any issues with Android 10 on it ?
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Without issues for me. Everything works flawlessly and i bought it 3 months ago.

I got mine fairly cheap few months ago, the cheapest 6gig version so I'm OK with some sacrifices, it's very fast device, stereo speakers sound nice, cameras are average and camera app is pretty bad, screen is nice if a little lack brightness, there is no NFC or headphone jack, battery life is very good and charging is really fast, build quality seams nice too. I'm on Android 9 since I don't like Miui. If you can find it for good price you can't go wrong if you are OK with what it lacks.

I'll sell you mine for 300 with the pro kit (both gamepads) I have the 8 gig version , it's a great device but I'm switching to the fold 2