Note 7 could connect to Galileo satellites, but what about S7? Is possible (technically) to connect to the new EU satellites? May Samsung will give us sw update?
I want to know that too
It is certainly possible on the S7/S7E with Snapdragon/Qualcomm chipset version (US) (But perhaps only a after a firmware upgrade - I don't have one to test).
What I'd like to know is about the S7/S7E version with the Exynos chipset. Found nothing about it and am starting to think it won't be supported (which would be ironic as it is the model sold in the EU, there Galileo originated).
I have an Exynos and it does not seem able to see any Galileo satellite, although it hasn't had any update lately.
Note 7 has (or had...) Exynos 8890 chip and Galileo support. S7 edge has Exynos 8890 too so in theory Galileo should work in S7 edge but most likely requires sw update.
Hi everyone.
Galileo started offering Early Operational Capability (EOC) on 15 December 2016 and is expected to reach Full Operational Capability (FOC) in 2019
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So while the S7 has the ability to connect, that doesnt mean you will be able use it straight away. I would expect your ability to use it to be very random over the next 3 years as they continue to scale up the system.
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo_begins_serving_the_globe
What would improve?
Firstly, i want to distinguish between different systems. Whilst we (the public) say GPS to refer to all the systems as a whole, GPS is really the American NAVSTAR GPS system. For this post, GPS will refer to the American system.
The first improvement will be precision. The resolution is alot better. GPS is 5m whereas Galileo is 1m (note: GPS can do 1m precision but this is restricted to the US military)
Second improvement is reliability. GPS has been running since 1974 and so the satellites are going to start failing. Whilst they are likely to be replaced, priority is always given to the US military and third party use can be cut at anytime (just ask the Indians in 1999!)
Lastly is the nature of the system. As mentioned, GPS is a US military system and therefore use could be denied (war for example). The Galileo system however is primarily designed for emergencies such as search and rescue and natural disasters. Whilst politics of the EU could disrupt access, its more likely Donald Trump will cut access of GPS unless you pay for it than the EU doing so!
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo/What_is_Galileo
Hi, news about Galileo and Galaxy S7/S7 edge (EU version-Exynos) with Android 7 ?
Can Galaxy S7 operate with Galileo?
If Note 7 is/was confirmed to support Galileo, then it would, in theory, be possible for Dev's to create a MOD to enable it on S7/S7 Edge with Exynos 8890; is it?
S7 edge Nougat 7.0
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S7 edge Nougat 7.0
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what type of s7 edge you are using?
and what ROM you are using?
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
ghbuur said:
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
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exynos or snapdragon?
jasoncled5 said:
exynos or snapdragon?
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exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
ghbuur said:
exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
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hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
jasoncled5 said:
hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
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no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
ghbuur said:
no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
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are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
jasoncled5 said:
are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
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yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
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yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
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yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
jasoncled5 said:
yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
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philippines? i cannot imagine, should be worldwide like the russian and chinese "gps" too. let's see if the new rom helps..
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Since last week the GLONASS-network has worldwide coverage.
This is good news, as we now have another positioning network next to the GPS-network.
But even better news:
Yesterday Qualcomm revealed that (amongst others) the Desire HD has built-in support for the GLONASS-network, according to this page of Qualcomm's site:
Today we’re announcing wider support for GPS and GLONASS. Any device with a Snapdragon ™ S2 or S3 processor is capable of accessing both satellite networks.
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(For those not in the know, the DHD has an S2-processor).
When using GLONASS together with GPS one gets a more precise location, an accuracy of 2 meters instead of 10 meters.
Also one gets a faster fix on one's location and of course there's a higher reliability, with twice as many satellites to lock on to.
All-in-all good news
the processor might have support, but does the firmware/rom/whatever need updating to get the new information?
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the processor might have support, but does the firmware/rom/whatever need updating to get the new information?
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Probably.
I'm not sure HTC will release an update (but who knows), but the ROM-cooks could probably get some stuff done?
desire hd owner bumping for intrest
I do wonder what they mean with 'Today we’re announcing wider support'?
Does it mean they're releasing some kind of drivers?
Any news?
I've just read this article http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/12/16/chips.will.leverage.both.us.and.russian.satellites/ where Qualcomm confirms presence of Glonass in S2 chips. MSM8255 is a S2 chip. So is it in use or not?
Does Android itself support different location sources than GPS?
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Does Android itself support different location sources than GPS?
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Android can even not know about glonass or GPS. Chip driver sends coordinates to OS API.
But I'd to know does the chip use both systems or just GPS?
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High End Device
After reading the OP post i can say that i'm kind of touched by the news. If we can realy taste the GLONASS technology, that means that we realy have a High End device. This means that can pass another year untill something realy new (I refer to technology build in) will make the difference between outdated and actuality.
PS: I will stick with my DHD just in case that something new about it will get revealed.
can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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I hope this helps.
radio-based satellite navigation system operated for the Russian government by the Russian Space Forces. It both complements and provides an alternative to the United States' Global Positioning System (GPS), the Chinese Compass navigation system and the planned Galileo positioning system of the European Union.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS
This sounds awesome to me, now if i can truely find a better battery then i cant see me needing to upgrade my phone for a good while.
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can someone tell me what is GLONASS?? i really dont know :$
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GLONASS is a Russian acronym for Globalnaya navigatsionnaya sputnikovaya sistema or Global Navigation Satellite System. The satellites are operated by the Russian Space Forces.
http://goo.gl/DjF1I
Samsung already released a Glonass enabler application for Windows Phone Mango phones.
http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...ication-for-its-windows-phone-mango-handsets/
Anyone got anymore info on this? The Note sounds awesome at gettin GPS lock using glonass.
This is really good news but how do I know if it uses these satellites? Having support for it doesn't say it is really going to use it.
Which programs can use both navigation systems?
Afaik all.
Calculations are done by the chipset and it will also decide if/when activate Glonass or not.
Problem here seems we first need an "activation" of the feature by HTC....I also asked them on Facebook with no answer
Sony did it. Samsung did it. Come on.....Htc.....just tell right people what to do to have it enabled.....
Is there any way to get it ported across from something else?
^^ GPS ( Global Positioning System ) is a satellite constellation maintained by the US DoD for military and commercial use.. ( military users ofc have more rapid locks and more precision ,around 2,3 meters )
GLONASS on the other hand is its RUSSIAN rival , gps being american was more 'in' commercially while glonass lagged behind .. only recently has the russian govt made this tech available to comm users
comparing the two, GPS has better precision overall ( but GLONASS is catching up )
other countries are also deploying their own systems , like china's COMPASS ( in progress ) , EU's GALILEO ...
i wont be surprised if in the near future one has options to lock onto GPS,glonass and compass !!!
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hows it possible that one DHD fone can acquire fix frm both GPS and GLONASS ?
Im creating this thread to help people root there HDC Galaxy SIII I9300
and to extend this thread to eventually help people install updated firmware and new roms for their device.
help from everyone will all be taken into count if deemed correct and tested by me
All credit goes to
ColonelZap
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and his blog for rooting the device in question
this is proven by me to work on
mtk6573
mtk6575
mtk6577
Do not miss any steps follow close and pause video if needed
heres the link
A play store fix is provided which is helpful but installation of it is not properly stated in video and caused me to fail first time
corrections are stated below:
download es file manager, once downloaded remember to mount system as writable at bottom in settings of application
also download s3market files provided, i have never used other file provided for calender etc it has no use in mtk6575 versions of the device
store s3market on root of sdcard
copy files within one by one, not together to system location shown
install the com.android.vending-3.5.16.apk file provided in s3market.
fix permissions in properties of files shown
then reboot device
what i have corrected in the procedure will fix the stopped unexpectedly error 100% if done correctly in mtk6575 phones of this device
I'm curious, how do these phones compare to the real thing? I gave up on clone phones after receiving a very bad quality ciphone 09..
Visually Stunning, Functionally a failure...
Be Warned, the HDC Galaxy S3 especially from fastcardtech are not worth the money and mental anguish to get the thing rooted. They come with Gingerbread, and Locked, and full of Chinese Apps. Once you free of that, the Google Sync is limited, so you cannot get your mail, calender, etc synced. Then there is Colonel Zap which is mysteriously the only person in the world prone to be able to root these devices, but be warned again. Only unless you specifically know your Chipset in your phone, MT6577 or 6575, good luck with that, you should be wary of rooting per Col Zap, as in my case, there process bricked one of my two phones from FastCardTech. And don't get me going on FastCardTech, they are complete B.S., takes over a month to accomplish anything, then they send you the lesser model than you pay for. Doesn't matter all the FREE CRAP you will be offered with this phone, doesn't make up for the fact that is is just a great looking shell with poor electronics inside.
Look these phones are from CHINA, the specs offered online are fiction, and are burnt into the kernel of the phone,so it only appears that you are getting what it states online. you are only getting a phone capable of meager performance, NO 4g, 3g, but at lower speeds if your are lucky enough to fit the Mobile Frequency Spectrum the phone runs in, being their made in China, not a U.S. friendly phone in that aspect. Wi-fi is spotty, and the software is crap, bottom line you get what you pay for, and not many resources to get you through the hard times. Good Luck.....!! At least it looks like the real thing you can show off to your friends while they laugh at you.....
Specs do not match and support is very poor
I bought the "Ultimate pro" version from FastcardTech.com (as a new member i am not allowed to post the link) and it does not meet the specs given by them. The GPS took about 2 hours outside to determine my position. After a factory defaults reset i could not find the strength to do this again
The CPU is not the 6577, but the slower 6575. The camera quality is very poor. The wifi signal is very, very weak. (i have a very good and strong router) The sound quality of a phone call is poor. The 'gsm sound' disturbes the conversation all the time, as if you are to close to a speaker. When you complain to FCT, don't expect any customer support. They give to most strange answers and can give no specific support what so ever. After some time, they say i can return the phone, but it's allmost impossible to meet their requirements, so i am pretty sure that when the have it back, i will never hear from them again. (just read the customer feedback on any honest site)
Including tax, shipping and insurance, i paid about 250 euo's for this phone.
If i had known this all on time, i would not have bought it.
But on the other hand, the responsiveness and quality of the screen is good. Gaming goes smooth and after countless factory defaults, i have managed to turn off most Chinise apps, without losing the nice 'Samsung startscreen'.
All together is not such a bad phone after all, but its not what i counted on in the first place.
Now i am curious about if there will be any tweaks possible. Rooting, custom firmware etc...
I am willing to help if possible.
Kind regards,
Coupedevil
Coupedevil said:
I bought the "Ultimate pro" version from FastcardTech.com ....
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Was it this one?> http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-7...droid-404-3G-Dual-sim-47-inch-8MP-Camera.html
Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience. It's disappointing to read how unprofessional some of these shops are It's one thing when they mess up the specs on pre-release products but this shouldn't happen with a phone that has been available for so long. Looks to me like they simply sent the wrong phone to begin with. Their lack of knowledge of even FCE-level English makes it so much worse
I'm looking at chinastore-online to get the Jiayu G2+. The shop at least claims some customer-friendly terms, but so far I've yet to hear from anyone who made a purchase there.
So hang on you've bought an obvious Chinese knock off and your surprised to find its crap? If your interested I can do you a great price on some magic beans (cash or bank transfer only).
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ghostofcain said:
So hang on you've bought an obvious Chinese knock off and your surprised to find its crap? If your interested I can do you a great price on some magic beans (cash or bank transfer only).
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
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Couldn't have said better myself...
Im not even sure you should be posting this here as this is obviously not a S3...
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Teio said:
Couldn't have said better myself...
Im not even sure you should be posting this here as this is obviously not a S3...
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well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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If i were you and i wanted a single core around 200-250 euros i'd get nexus s...
Great hardware,full jellybean support and great dev support here on xda.
What else do you need?
Bang for the buck phone now that it's price has dropped.
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menthol1960 said:
well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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A clone in looks, but without the Samsung SOC. So chances of getting a ROM off here that'll run are less than zero, sorry.
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menthol1960 said:
well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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It will not be found on this forum this is I9300 SGS3.
Search for a MTK6575 forum .
jje
I really don't think this thread should even be in the Galaxy S III forums
its hard to remove chinese apps
cannot unistall
and hard to upgrade rom @ win 7 -.-
Brand:Samsung
Model:GT-I9300
CPU Hardware : MTK6575
Android Versiyon : 4.0.4
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 10 (v7I)
Hardware : SMDK4x12
Kernel : 3.0.13 1211 V18 Wed Sep 5 09:29:18 CST 2012
Ana Bant Sürümü : MAUI.11AMD.W11.50.SP.V20, 2012/08/13 14:56
Üretim Numarası : IMM76D.I9300ZSALE9
Custom Build Version : 1346760007
Ekran: 480x800
can someone tell me if its gps ios workling ?
mine never locks onto sattellites using ulysse or other apps
khankll said:
can someone tell me if its gps ios workling ?
mine never locks onto sattellites using ulysse or other apps
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I have this galaxy s3 mt6575 clone, same as in the pictures in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1921178
I also had troubles getting the gps to work and started to think it didnt work at all.
But lately I have managed to get some gps signal to work.
I did flash the cwm recovery and have now installed the Lewa rom for it.
google "LeWa For Samsung Galaxy S3 MTK6575" to find the rom if you want to try.
Not sure if it was that rom that made the gps work or not, because I also did install an app named GPS Booster, as well as the u-center gps test app, and the GPS Test app.
Now I get enaugh signal to get my position. But the antenna is weak I think, so I need to be outdoor and have clear weather and clear view to the sky to get it to work. I did not test it in the car yet, but I think it might be to weak to work reliably inside the car.
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
Rideran said:
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
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None of these roms will work nor will you find one that will here. XDA doesnt support clone knock off devices.
Rideran said:
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
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use Google search for MTK6577 forum .
Its not a Samsung phone so not a sammmy rom .
jje
Same Products MT6575
I have the software to update another model, which is not mentioned, but with the same processor.
I have also to update the software, it would be possible to modify intalando software programs and extract and place in another of the same model, but modified?
So manufactures improve their imperfections.
Hello, not exactly new to Android or Linux for that matter, but this has got me stumped.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 from China because the seller conned me into thinking it was a g900v. It turns out its a Sm-G9006v. Android says it is 4.4.2 but other programs (Sysinfo, looking up the IMEI) tell me it is 4.2.2. So which do I believe? How do find out once and for all?
There are other little weird things about this phone and I'll explain if you'd like.
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Here's some shots of system info. First two are from android rest are from sysinfo
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I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 from China because the seller conned me into thinking it was a g900v. It turns out its a Sm-G9006v. Android says it is 4.4.2 but other programs (Sysinfo, looking up the IMEI) tell me it is 4.2.2. So which do I believe? How do find out once and for all?
There are other little weird things about this phone and I'll explain if you'd like.
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The additional information about anomalies would help. As you discerned, the system information screen looks legitimate, but SysInfo reports a fake i.e. MT6572/4.2.2. Which is correct?
One way to tell conclusively would be to run an extended benchmark suite. There would be a substantial difference in benchmark scores between a fake with a MT class processor and a legitimate G9006V (China Unicom S5). Alternately, you could look closely at the system files to discern if you actually have 4.2.2 or 4.4.2. Or multiple irreconcilable anomalies would.be compelling evidence of a fake.
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Looking at the status bar icons it is pretty apparent this is not an original S5. Or maybe the seller rooted his device and changed the icons.
Also, it shows up as a Mediatek based device (mt6572). IT IS FAKE.
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Looking at the status bar icons it is pretty apparent this is not an original S5.
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Since you're certain, can you provide a screenshot of a known legitimate China Unicom S5 for comparison?
If you've never seen a China unicom S5, then it's premature to declare it a fake before we really know. A different icon could easily be something that the carrier or a localized update effected.
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fffft said:
Since you're certain, can you provide a screenshot of a known legitimate China Unicom S5 for comparison?
If you've never seen a China unicom S5, then it's premature to declare it a fake before we really know. A different icon could easily be something that the carrier or a localized update effected.
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It's running a Mediatek chipset. It is 100% fake. No variant of the S5 uses a Mediatek chipset. Kernel version is also incorrect and Android version shows JDQ39 which is Jellybean. No version of the S5 runs on Jellybean.
Here is your requested image: http://i3.sinaimg.cn/IT/cr/2014/0319/1504933938.jpg sourced from: http://tech.sina.com.cn/mobile/n/2014-03-19/07359253359.shtml
I'm thinking this might be the phone you're talking about...
http://upnovo.com/?Wholesale-China-mobile-cell-smart-phone-cheap/Chinese-Copy-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-G9006-Clone-Replica.html
You're assuming that sysinfo is correct. And it is far from 100% reliable. I already stipulated earlier that it will be a fake if sysinfo turns out to be correct. The information page for the G9006V that you found after the fact is inconclusive with mostly oblique screen views.
The bottom line is that we don't know one way or the other for certain yet. You can cherry pick the evidence suggesting it's a fake if you wish. But there is no reasonable basis to say that the matter has been conclusively proven yet. The OP needs to benchmark the processor or another metric that will clearly distinguish between the two.
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its fake, the android numbers is jelly bean 4.3 , the battery icon is a themed one.
Wrong cpu, wrong board, wrong buildnumber, a clear and obvious copy of a S5. Sorry for you dude. Try to get your money back if you can if you payed with your credit card because of fraud
Yeah, it's 199% fake. Get a refund if possible.
If you want to make it sure, try connecting it to a pc with kies3.
It's a fake, looking at the photo's, the phone is a dual sim phone, in china only the sm9008W and sm9009 are dual sim.
A fake..
Now here's the kicker, it has the heartbeat sensor, it has the fingerprint sensor. Do you think maybe the person I bought it from just flashed it with a wrong ROM?
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Now here's the kicker, it has the heartbeat sensor, it has the fingerprint sensor. Do you think maybe the person I bought it from just flashed it with a wrong ROM?
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Despite a lot of dogmatic opinions in the thread, you still don't have enough information to know yet. You probably have a fake, but that isn't certain simply because a third party app says that you have Jelly Bean firmware and a MT processor. It's a fake if that information is correct, but it wouldn't be the first time that an app has reported erroneous information either.
Likewise, missing the heartrate or fingerprint sensors would be strong evidence of a fake. But the best quality clones do have working heartrate & fingerprint apps. The most damming evidence IMO is the kernel version which is suggestive of a clone. But I stand by my earlier advice. Had you run a benchmark suite, you'd already have a conclusive answer.
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Hello everyone, does anyone know if the SM-G950F purchased free will come with the free bootload or will you have to use it to free it?
Thank you.
lmmerono said:
Hello everyone, does anyone know if the SM-G950F purchased free will come with the free bootload or will you have to use it to free it?
Thank you.
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This has been discussed previously. Samsung added h/w level security to the Exynos 8895. Until it's in peoples hands no one knows for sure whether the changes will affect unlocking the bootloader.
gurinder073 said:
What version you think will have unlocked bootloader :good:
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Based on this, possibly none. If the only reason anyone is buying Exynos vs. S-835 is the unlocked bootloader you might want to hold off being the first to get it.
Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/samsung-announces-exynos-8895-soc-10nm
BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung added h/w level security to the Exynos 8895.
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What EXACTLY does this mean??
The Phone Company said:
What EXACTLY does this mean??
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Its been compared to the Apple Secure Enclave (Security Coprocessor). Here's its description...
Security circuit designed to perform secure services for the rest of the SOC
Prevents main processor from gaining direct access to sensitive data
Used to support a number of different services - Most notably Touch ID
Runs its own operating system - Includes its own kernel, drivers, services, and applications
Sounds to me like anything security related is being moved to a separate and independent h/w coprocessor that's an integrated component of the SoC. The motive has to be a level of security that's as impenetrable as Apple's and significantly stronger than s/w based alternatives. Here's something Qualcomm got called out on recently...
A blog post published Thursday revealed that in stark contrast to the iPhone's iOS, Qualcomm-powered Android devices store the disk encryption keys in software. That leaves the keys vulnerable to a variety of attacks that can pull a key off a device. From there, the key can be loaded onto a server cluster, field-programmable gate array, or supercomputer that has been optimized for super-fast password cracking.
https://arstechnica.com/security/20...sk-encryption-just-got-much-weaker-heres-why/
This is a Samsung first being introduced on the 8895. What it means and how its implemented remain to be seen but that level of security investment by Samsung can't be good for things likely hackable bootloaders.
So wait, the snapdragon that USA is getting maybe easier to get an unlocked bootloader for? Based on this convo I am reading here?
BarryH_GEG said:
This has been discussed previously. Samsung added h/w level security to the Exynos 8895. Until it's in peoples hands no one knows for sure whether the changes will affect unlocking the bootloader.
Based on this, possibly none. If the only reason anyone is buying Exynos vs. S-835 is the unlocked bootloader you might want to hold off being the first to get it.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/samsung-announces-exynos-8895-soc-10nm[/I]
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waiting for the answer to this!
So no one with an Exynos variant has tried to unlock the bootloader yet? Come on! Give us an answer! NOT Snapdragon, but Exynos. No Snapdragon owners need reply as you do NOT know. Only Exynos owners can answer this question.
Last year was simple OEM unlock for Galaxy S7 Exynos variants, I've been told repeatedly. That's what I'm talking about, whether it's still that easy or not.
I'm not talking about needing a dev to do magic.
GALAXY S7 EXYNOS
To OEM unlock is very easy on the exynos models . In our model is allow to do it with the click of a button , you have to:
Go to Settings / About device / Software info / Tap 7 times on Build number to enable Developer
Once developer options are enable ( you will see it under Settings) enter there you will see the option OEM Enable
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Will SOMEONE please check to see if this can still be done on Exynos Galaxy S8 or not?
ChazzMatt said:
So no one with an Exynos variant has tried to unlock the bootloader yet? Come on! Give us an answer! NOT Snapdragon, but Exynos. No Snapdragon owners need reply as you do NOT know. Only Exynos owners can answer this question.
Last year was simple OEM unlock for Galaxy S7 Exynos variants, I've been told repeatedly. That's what I'm talking about, whether it's still that easy or not.
I'm not talking about needing a dev to do magic.
GALAXY S7 EXYNOS
Will SOMEONE please check to see if this can still be done on Exynos Galaxy S8 or not?
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Yes, I followed the same steps and it works
aristopo said:
Yes, I followed the same steps and it works
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You actually unlocked your bootloader, or you confirmed last year's steps lead to the same choice?
Either way, THANK you for providing the screenshot.
So many people were worried Samsung had "Snadrogoned" the Exynos S8, so especially here in XDA seems like finding out the answer would be prioritized over wallpapers discussion and stuff.
If you actually unlocked the bootloader, please reply. Is someone else does, please reply!
Thanks!
I am not a specialist and I hate doing things I don't know about to my brand new phone
I followed the steps an toggled the button to ON
It asked for my pw, and here I stopped ...
Sorry ... for not doing it all the way
ChazzMatt said:
You actually unlocked your bootloader, or you confirmed last year's steps lead to the same choice?
Either way, THANK you for providing the screenshot.
So many people were worried Samsung had "Snadrogoned" the Exynos S8, so especially here in XDA seems like finding out the answer would be prioritized over wallpapers discussion and stuff.
If you actually unlocked the bootloader, please reply. Is someone else does, please reply!
Thanks!
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aristopo said:
I am not a specialist and I hate doing things I don't know about to my brand new phone
I followed the steps an toggled the button to ON
It asked for my pw, and here I stopped ...
Sorry ... for not doing it all the way
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Thank you anyway for the screenshot. Now, hopefully someone else can do it? Surely someone wants an unlocked bootloader so you can have custom ROMs, custom kernels?
Finally! Somebody who knows what XDA is about. Nobody wanted to even try to unlock the Exynos.
TWRP recovery in the S8+ forum get here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3594756
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3594902
As this devices uses Snapdragon 821 chip does it have Galileo support? Can anyone confirm it please. I know that at the time of release it didn't support it, at least according to specs but from what I understand it can be done with firmware upgrade, thanks.
I think it might have galileo support, but, in my opinion, the gps is very good in this phone , i usually get very good accuracy when i'm using it...
F-L-Y-E-R said:
As this devices uses Snapdragon 821 chip does it have Galileo support? Can anyone confirm it please. I know that at the time of release it didn't support it, at least according to specs but from what I understand it can be done with firmware upgrade, thanks.
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No official timeline but mi6 is on testing in China.Note 2 will have Galileo support at Mar I guess.U can use Chinese MIUI forum to get access to it as early as possible.