Hello, not exactly new to Android or Linux for that matter, but this has got me stumped.
I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 from China because the seller conned me into thinking it was a g900v. It turns out its a Sm-G9006v. Android says it is 4.4.2 but other programs (Sysinfo, looking up the IMEI) tell me it is 4.2.2. So which do I believe? How do find out once and for all?
There are other little weird things about this phone and I'll explain if you'd like.
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Here's some shots of system info. First two are from android rest are from sysinfo
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GeneralRikan said:
I bought a Samsung Galaxy S5 from China because the seller conned me into thinking it was a g900v. It turns out its a Sm-G9006v. Android says it is 4.4.2 but other programs (Sysinfo, looking up the IMEI) tell me it is 4.2.2. So which do I believe? How do find out once and for all?
There are other little weird things about this phone and I'll explain if you'd like.
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The additional information about anomalies would help. As you discerned, the system information screen looks legitimate, but SysInfo reports a fake i.e. MT6572/4.2.2. Which is correct?
One way to tell conclusively would be to run an extended benchmark suite. There would be a substantial difference in benchmark scores between a fake with a MT class processor and a legitimate G9006V (China Unicom S5). Alternately, you could look closely at the system files to discern if you actually have 4.2.2 or 4.4.2. Or multiple irreconcilable anomalies would.be compelling evidence of a fake.
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Looking at the status bar icons it is pretty apparent this is not an original S5. Or maybe the seller rooted his device and changed the icons.
Also, it shows up as a Mediatek based device (mt6572). IT IS FAKE.
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Looking at the status bar icons it is pretty apparent this is not an original S5.
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Since you're certain, can you provide a screenshot of a known legitimate China Unicom S5 for comparison?
If you've never seen a China unicom S5, then it's premature to declare it a fake before we really know. A different icon could easily be something that the carrier or a localized update effected.
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fffft said:
Since you're certain, can you provide a screenshot of a known legitimate China Unicom S5 for comparison?
If you've never seen a China unicom S5, then it's premature to declare it a fake before we really know. A different icon could easily be something that the carrier or a localized update effected.
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It's running a Mediatek chipset. It is 100% fake. No variant of the S5 uses a Mediatek chipset. Kernel version is also incorrect and Android version shows JDQ39 which is Jellybean. No version of the S5 runs on Jellybean.
Here is your requested image: http://i3.sinaimg.cn/IT/cr/2014/0319/1504933938.jpg sourced from: http://tech.sina.com.cn/mobile/n/2014-03-19/07359253359.shtml
I'm thinking this might be the phone you're talking about...
http://upnovo.com/?Wholesale-China-mobile-cell-smart-phone-cheap/Chinese-Copy-Samsung-Galaxy-S5-G9006-Clone-Replica.html
You're assuming that sysinfo is correct. And it is far from 100% reliable. I already stipulated earlier that it will be a fake if sysinfo turns out to be correct. The information page for the G9006V that you found after the fact is inconclusive with mostly oblique screen views.
The bottom line is that we don't know one way or the other for certain yet. You can cherry pick the evidence suggesting it's a fake if you wish. But there is no reasonable basis to say that the matter has been conclusively proven yet. The OP needs to benchmark the processor or another metric that will clearly distinguish between the two.
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its fake, the android numbers is jelly bean 4.3 , the battery icon is a themed one.
Wrong cpu, wrong board, wrong buildnumber, a clear and obvious copy of a S5. Sorry for you dude. Try to get your money back if you can if you payed with your credit card because of fraud
Yeah, it's 199% fake. Get a refund if possible.
If you want to make it sure, try connecting it to a pc with kies3.
It's a fake, looking at the photo's, the phone is a dual sim phone, in china only the sm9008W and sm9009 are dual sim.
A fake..
Now here's the kicker, it has the heartbeat sensor, it has the fingerprint sensor. Do you think maybe the person I bought it from just flashed it with a wrong ROM?
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Now here's the kicker, it has the heartbeat sensor, it has the fingerprint sensor. Do you think maybe the person I bought it from just flashed it with a wrong ROM?
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Despite a lot of dogmatic opinions in the thread, you still don't have enough information to know yet. You probably have a fake, but that isn't certain simply because a third party app says that you have Jelly Bean firmware and a MT processor. It's a fake if that information is correct, but it wouldn't be the first time that an app has reported erroneous information either.
Likewise, missing the heartrate or fingerprint sensors would be strong evidence of a fake. But the best quality clones do have working heartrate & fingerprint apps. The most damming evidence IMO is the kernel version which is suggestive of a clone. But I stand by my earlier advice. Had you run a benchmark suite, you'd already have a conclusive answer.
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Im creating this thread to help people root there HDC Galaxy SIII I9300
and to extend this thread to eventually help people install updated firmware and new roms for their device.
help from everyone will all be taken into count if deemed correct and tested by me
All credit goes to
ColonelZap
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and his blog for rooting the device in question
this is proven by me to work on
mtk6573
mtk6575
mtk6577
Do not miss any steps follow close and pause video if needed
heres the link
A play store fix is provided which is helpful but installation of it is not properly stated in video and caused me to fail first time
corrections are stated below:
download es file manager, once downloaded remember to mount system as writable at bottom in settings of application
also download s3market files provided, i have never used other file provided for calender etc it has no use in mtk6575 versions of the device
store s3market on root of sdcard
copy files within one by one, not together to system location shown
install the com.android.vending-3.5.16.apk file provided in s3market.
fix permissions in properties of files shown
then reboot device
what i have corrected in the procedure will fix the stopped unexpectedly error 100% if done correctly in mtk6575 phones of this device
I'm curious, how do these phones compare to the real thing? I gave up on clone phones after receiving a very bad quality ciphone 09..
Visually Stunning, Functionally a failure...
Be Warned, the HDC Galaxy S3 especially from fastcardtech are not worth the money and mental anguish to get the thing rooted. They come with Gingerbread, and Locked, and full of Chinese Apps. Once you free of that, the Google Sync is limited, so you cannot get your mail, calender, etc synced. Then there is Colonel Zap which is mysteriously the only person in the world prone to be able to root these devices, but be warned again. Only unless you specifically know your Chipset in your phone, MT6577 or 6575, good luck with that, you should be wary of rooting per Col Zap, as in my case, there process bricked one of my two phones from FastCardTech. And don't get me going on FastCardTech, they are complete B.S., takes over a month to accomplish anything, then they send you the lesser model than you pay for. Doesn't matter all the FREE CRAP you will be offered with this phone, doesn't make up for the fact that is is just a great looking shell with poor electronics inside.
Look these phones are from CHINA, the specs offered online are fiction, and are burnt into the kernel of the phone,so it only appears that you are getting what it states online. you are only getting a phone capable of meager performance, NO 4g, 3g, but at lower speeds if your are lucky enough to fit the Mobile Frequency Spectrum the phone runs in, being their made in China, not a U.S. friendly phone in that aspect. Wi-fi is spotty, and the software is crap, bottom line you get what you pay for, and not many resources to get you through the hard times. Good Luck.....!! At least it looks like the real thing you can show off to your friends while they laugh at you.....
Specs do not match and support is very poor
I bought the "Ultimate pro" version from FastcardTech.com (as a new member i am not allowed to post the link) and it does not meet the specs given by them. The GPS took about 2 hours outside to determine my position. After a factory defaults reset i could not find the strength to do this again
The CPU is not the 6577, but the slower 6575. The camera quality is very poor. The wifi signal is very, very weak. (i have a very good and strong router) The sound quality of a phone call is poor. The 'gsm sound' disturbes the conversation all the time, as if you are to close to a speaker. When you complain to FCT, don't expect any customer support. They give to most strange answers and can give no specific support what so ever. After some time, they say i can return the phone, but it's allmost impossible to meet their requirements, so i am pretty sure that when the have it back, i will never hear from them again. (just read the customer feedback on any honest site)
Including tax, shipping and insurance, i paid about 250 euo's for this phone.
If i had known this all on time, i would not have bought it.
But on the other hand, the responsiveness and quality of the screen is good. Gaming goes smooth and after countless factory defaults, i have managed to turn off most Chinise apps, without losing the nice 'Samsung startscreen'.
All together is not such a bad phone after all, but its not what i counted on in the first place.
Now i am curious about if there will be any tweaks possible. Rooting, custom firmware etc...
I am willing to help if possible.
Kind regards,
Coupedevil
Coupedevil said:
I bought the "Ultimate pro" version from FastcardTech.com ....
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Was it this one?> http://www.fastcardtech.com/goods-7...droid-404-3G-Dual-sim-47-inch-8MP-Camera.html
Anyway, thanks for sharing your experience. It's disappointing to read how unprofessional some of these shops are It's one thing when they mess up the specs on pre-release products but this shouldn't happen with a phone that has been available for so long. Looks to me like they simply sent the wrong phone to begin with. Their lack of knowledge of even FCE-level English makes it so much worse
I'm looking at chinastore-online to get the Jiayu G2+. The shop at least claims some customer-friendly terms, but so far I've yet to hear from anyone who made a purchase there.
So hang on you've bought an obvious Chinese knock off and your surprised to find its crap? If your interested I can do you a great price on some magic beans (cash or bank transfer only).
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ghostofcain said:
So hang on you've bought an obvious Chinese knock off and your surprised to find its crap? If your interested I can do you a great price on some magic beans (cash or bank transfer only).
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Couldn't have said better myself...
Im not even sure you should be posting this here as this is obviously not a S3...
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Teio said:
Couldn't have said better myself...
Im not even sure you should be posting this here as this is obviously not a S3...
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well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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If i were you and i wanted a single core around 200-250 euros i'd get nexus s...
Great hardware,full jellybean support and great dev support here on xda.
What else do you need?
Bang for the buck phone now that it's price has dropped.
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menthol1960 said:
well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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A clone in looks, but without the Samsung SOC. So chances of getting a ROM off here that'll run are less than zero, sorry.
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menthol1960 said:
well i thought we was all here to help one and other ??
maybe i am wrong
Galaxy S3 i9300 Plus Ultra-Thin 4.8inch Screen Android 4.0 MTK6575 Single Sim
and thats what i need help i need a rom for the above phone
oh and yes its a clone
many thanks
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It will not be found on this forum this is I9300 SGS3.
Search for a MTK6575 forum .
jje
I really don't think this thread should even be in the Galaxy S III forums
its hard to remove chinese apps
cannot unistall
and hard to upgrade rom @ win 7 -.-
Brand:Samsung
Model:GT-I9300
CPU Hardware : MTK6575
Android Versiyon : 4.0.4
Processor : ARMv7 Processor rev 10 (v7I)
Hardware : SMDK4x12
Kernel : 3.0.13 1211 V18 Wed Sep 5 09:29:18 CST 2012
Ana Bant Sürümü : MAUI.11AMD.W11.50.SP.V20, 2012/08/13 14:56
Üretim Numarası : IMM76D.I9300ZSALE9
Custom Build Version : 1346760007
Ekran: 480x800
can someone tell me if its gps ios workling ?
mine never locks onto sattellites using ulysse or other apps
khankll said:
can someone tell me if its gps ios workling ?
mine never locks onto sattellites using ulysse or other apps
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I have this galaxy s3 mt6575 clone, same as in the pictures in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1921178
I also had troubles getting the gps to work and started to think it didnt work at all.
But lately I have managed to get some gps signal to work.
I did flash the cwm recovery and have now installed the Lewa rom for it.
google "LeWa For Samsung Galaxy S3 MTK6575" to find the rom if you want to try.
Not sure if it was that rom that made the gps work or not, because I also did install an app named GPS Booster, as well as the u-center gps test app, and the GPS Test app.
Now I get enaugh signal to get my position. But the antenna is weak I think, so I need to be outdoor and have clear weather and clear view to the sky to get it to work. I did not test it in the car yet, but I think it might be to weak to work reliably inside the car.
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
Rideran said:
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
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None of these roms will work nor will you find one that will here. XDA doesnt support clone knock off devices.
Rideran said:
i just bought the MTK6577 (s3 mimic)
and i want to change his rom (its already rooted)
what rom will work at this device?
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use Google search for MTK6577 forum .
Its not a Samsung phone so not a sammmy rom .
jje
Same Products MT6575
I have the software to update another model, which is not mentioned, but with the same processor.
I have also to update the software, it would be possible to modify intalando software programs and extract and place in another of the same model, but modified?
So manufactures improve their imperfections.
Hi friends,
My friend just got himself a Galaxy S4 from his trip to China. It is around $100 cheaper. But he doubts whether it is original due to following reasons :
1. There are no GApps (GMail, GTalk, Search or Now)
2. There are no Motion settings (or at least he couldn't find any) so no AirView, AirGestures, etc.
3. Antutu benchmark is showing 7412
4. There is not showing any Temperature or Barometer sensor in Android System Info app.
5. CPU showing as 'some' UNIVERSAL5410 1.6Ghz Quad-Core ARM v7 revision 10
6. SDCard showing as 2Gb and ROM as 512Mb (??) in Antutu.
But Android System Info (and few other similar apps) is showing
1. RAM = 2GB
2. Display = 5" 1920x1080
3. CPU = UNIVERSAL5410 1.6 GHz ARMv7 revision10
4. GPU = PowerVRSGX5xx (sorry don't remember exactly)
It has firmware version - i9500ZCUAMDG. Surprisingly it is a legit firmware of Samsung as posted here.
My friend is quite depressed as he thinks he is cheated
Plz advise !
Thanks :good:
PS. Ok...so I found some info on UNIVERSAL5410. Plz check.
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Hi friends,
My friend just got himself a Galaxy S4 from his trip to China. It is around $100 cheaper. But he doubts whether it is original due to following reasons :
1. There are no GApps (GMail, GTalk, Search or Now)
2. There are no Motion settings (or at least he couldn't find any) so no AirView, AirGestures, etc.
3. Antutu benchmark is showing 7412
4. There is not showing any Temperature or Barometer sensor in Android System Info app.
5. CPU showing as 'some' UNIVERSAL5410 1.6Ghz Quad-Core ARM v7 revision 10
6. SDCard showing as 2Gb and ROM as 512Mb (??) in Antutu.
But Android System Info (and few other similar apps) is showing
1. RAM = 2GB
2. Display = 5" 1920x1080
3. CPU = UNIVERSAL5410 1.6 GHz ARMv7 revision10
4. GPU = PowerVRSGX5xx (sorry don't remember exactly)
It has firmware version - i9500ZCUAMDG. Surprisingly it is a legit firmware of Samsung as posted here.
My friend is quite depressed as he thinks he is cheated
Plz advise !
Thanks :good:
PS. Ok...so I found some info on UNIVERSAL5410. Plz check.
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Definitely fake / clone
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most android smartphones sold in china have no google apps because the service provided by google in china is very limited. that is the problem between the chinese government and google.
looking for the answers for the rest.
Doesnt seem to be fake. Universal5410 has the model number for the exynos 5410 chip. Clones dont have 2GB RAM on top of that idk about air view and stufd not bring there though so..
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Has he got an option to register on the phone to Samsung services, register the phone on that, fakes won't have it. Like create a Samsung account. China and Google don't go well together, hence no Play Store and such. Has it got all the Samsung logos, front, back, battery, serial number. Proper functioning TouchWiz? Check the camera, go into settings make sure it's got the full 13MP. It should have motion control and such can't see why the Chinese model wouldn't have that.
Nothing like good old American authentic Chinese electronics! geez!
ashton4life said:
Nothing like good old American authentic Chinese electronics! geez!
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am in middle east but i think china tech is much better and cheaper and is of many ranges like apple manufactures there so did u get it china is ahead in tech and produces from 1 dollar toys to high digital device
qazmed said:
am in middle east but i think china tech is much better and cheaper and is of many ranges like apple manufactures there so did u get it china is ahead in tech and produces from 1 dollar toys to high digital device
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You didn't seem understand my comment. I was being sarcastic by saying it is better to buy Chinese electronics from the USA so that they are authentic even though they all come from China. I was just being funny. ha ha :laugh::laugh: Oh by the way China = cheap labor!!! USA = Quality and ingenuity!!! Nothing from China has quality unless foreign intelligence is there to guide them. FACT
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You didn't seem understand my comment. I was being sarcastic by saying it is better to buy Chinese electronics from the USA so that they are authentic even though they all come from China. I was just being funny. ha ha :laugh::laugh: Oh by the way China = cheap labor!!! USA = Quality and ingenuity!!! Nothing from China has quality unless foreign intelligence is there to guide them. FACT
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Sry but u didnt clearify ur self also its true what u say but also dnt forget that chinese dnt know how to create but only to imitate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
Maybe this could help you...
frrlod said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpU4CqyNvrs
Maybe this could help you...
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Not a good video, dummy phone compared to a real phone
nikzDHD said:
Has he got an option to register on the phone to Samsung services, register the phone on that, fakes won't have it. Like create a Samsung account. China and Google don't go well together, hence no Play Store and such. Has it got all the Samsung logos, front, back, battery, serial number. Proper functioning TouchWiz? Check the camera, go into settings make sure it's got the full 13MP. It should have motion control and such can't see why the Chinese model wouldn't have that.
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Yes to most of them. Camera is 12.8mp.
Don't know about Samsung account thing. Will ask him.
Here are a few images he sent me through WhatsApp.
That's legit proper TouchWiz.
Motion settings on next tab.
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nikzDHD said:
That's legit proper TouchWiz.
Motion settings on next tab.
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Thats the problem. Not there
Are you sure (even to some extent) that device is genuine ?
Thanks !
240 dpi?
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That's legit proper TouchWiz.
Motion settings on next tab.
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This Youtube video is total bull****. According to it Amazon sells fakes:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-GT-I9500-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B00BV1NKCW
and also Gadgetreview presented fake phone:
http://www.gadgetreview.com/2013/04/delay-on-galaxy-s4-shipment-unlocked-international-version-on-ebay-daily-deals-for-700.html
And here are photos on Samsung Webpage - check second photo, yellow flash light and engraved logo = international version.
http://www.samsung.com/pl/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phones/smartphone/GT-I9505ZKAXEO
Nice, this suppose to be "counterfeited" phone with such a level of details, samoled display, CPU, camera sensor, original firmware beacause the only difference that TechRex guy can present is different color of flash led and logo on back cover...... What an idiot/troll.
I have asked him for few more pics.
He is quite depressed actually
I'll keep posting as and when i receive images.
He tried to update but it said "Your system is up to date".
I don't think it's a fake.
Looks like the international I9500, the firmware will be the official Chinese version.
So he should install a international ROM.
I'm from Europe Germany, as far as I know all the cell phones in the states are provider bound.
The provider bound smartphones are specially build for the providers. They have different hardware and firmware. Is there an international version of the I9500 that is sold in the states?
If so try to get the firmware version of that and flash it via Odin.
The other option is to contact Samsung USA, maybe they can help your friend. I can't imagine that he is the only person with this problem.
Regards
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IMHO You should check if Kies detects this phone and connects to it. Also try to flash proper firmware for Your region with Odin.
I'm going to apologize in advance and hope there is someone who is patient enough to try and deal with me because I'm a complete idiot when it comes to anything electronic. So, I'm sorry. But any help is appreciated.
I recently downloaded SnoopStitch but when I opened it, I get a error message : Fatal Condition device not Compatiable. Device does not exist / no Qualcomm chip / no ROM
So, I know it exists. I thought it was on the device list when I went back and looked but I don't know for sure because it seems as if there is actually 700 different S4's and I have no idea which mine is, I guess. I think.
And I think ROM has something to do with memory but I don't really know and I have no idea how that would help.
So far as I know it is just a normal Samsung Galaxy S4 bought last September through Bell Mobility in Canada.
Is there anyway I can make it compatiable? Can I get this Qualcomm thing?
Thanks,
Judas
ROM is android itself, the operating system on the phone, the whole software part. The ROM is what makes this device an android phone.
Qualcomm is the hardware manufacturer. More specifically, the processor and graphics processing unit.
The S4 came in two variants, a Qualcomm variant and an Exynos (Samsung's own processor) variant. You have the Qualcomm variant.
The Bell Canada version of the S4 is an SGH-1337M.
If your device does not appear on the compatibility list, there are certain ways to make the app think it's a different device. But let's get into that once we are certain it isn't.
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ROM is android itself, the operating system on the phone, the whole software part. The ROM is what makes this device an android phone.
Qualcomm is the hardware manufacturer. More specifically, the processor and graphics processing unit.
The S4 came in two variants, a Qualcomm variant and an Exynos (Samsung's own processor) variant. You have the Qualcomm variant.
The Bell Canada version of the S4 is an SGH-1337M.
If your device does not appear on the compatibility list, there are certain ways to make the app think it's a different device. But let's get into that once we are certain it isn't.
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But we know, don't we? Or is it the ROM?
I was going to add a screen capture I took of the error message but I can't figure out how to upload a picture.
JudasK said:
But we know, don't we? Or is it the ROM?
I was going to add a screen capture I took of the error message but I can't figure out how to upload a picture.
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SnoopSnitch requires root and stock rom (Stock rom meaning the factory pre-installed software).
Since you claim to be disinclined towards technology, I assume you have the latter, but not the former. Am I correct?
GDReaper said:
ROM is android itself, the operating system on the phone, the whole software part. The ROM is what makes this device an android phone.
Qualcomm is the hardware manufacturer. More specifically, the processor and graphics processing unit.
The S4 came in two variants, a Qualcomm variant and an Exynos (Samsung's own processor) variant. You have the Qualcomm variant.
The Bell Canada version of the S4 is an SGH-1337M.
If your device does not appear on the compatibility list, there are certain ways to make the app think it's a different device. But let's get into that once we are certain it isn't.
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SnoopSnitch requires root and stock rom (Stock rom meaning the factory pre-installed software).
Since you claim to be disinclined towards technology, I assume you have the latter, but not the former. Am I correct?
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Most definitely correct.
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Most definitely correct.
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Well, then you will have too root your phone.
You can find guides in the help thread.
Note 7 could connect to Galileo satellites, but what about S7? Is possible (technically) to connect to the new EU satellites? May Samsung will give us sw update?
I want to know that too
It is certainly possible on the S7/S7E with Snapdragon/Qualcomm chipset version (US) (But perhaps only a after a firmware upgrade - I don't have one to test).
What I'd like to know is about the S7/S7E version with the Exynos chipset. Found nothing about it and am starting to think it won't be supported (which would be ironic as it is the model sold in the EU, there Galileo originated).
I have an Exynos and it does not seem able to see any Galileo satellite, although it hasn't had any update lately.
Note 7 has (or had...) Exynos 8890 chip and Galileo support. S7 edge has Exynos 8890 too so in theory Galileo should work in S7 edge but most likely requires sw update.
Hi everyone.
Galileo started offering Early Operational Capability (EOC) on 15 December 2016 and is expected to reach Full Operational Capability (FOC) in 2019
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So while the S7 has the ability to connect, that doesnt mean you will be able use it straight away. I would expect your ability to use it to be very random over the next 3 years as they continue to scale up the system.
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo_begins_serving_the_globe
What would improve?
Firstly, i want to distinguish between different systems. Whilst we (the public) say GPS to refer to all the systems as a whole, GPS is really the American NAVSTAR GPS system. For this post, GPS will refer to the American system.
The first improvement will be precision. The resolution is alot better. GPS is 5m whereas Galileo is 1m (note: GPS can do 1m precision but this is restricted to the US military)
Second improvement is reliability. GPS has been running since 1974 and so the satellites are going to start failing. Whilst they are likely to be replaced, priority is always given to the US military and third party use can be cut at anytime (just ask the Indians in 1999!)
Lastly is the nature of the system. As mentioned, GPS is a US military system and therefore use could be denied (war for example). The Galileo system however is primarily designed for emergencies such as search and rescue and natural disasters. Whilst politics of the EU could disrupt access, its more likely Donald Trump will cut access of GPS unless you pay for it than the EU doing so!
Sources:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_navigation
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)
http://m.esa.int/Our_Activities/Navigation/Galileo/What_is_Galileo
Hi, news about Galileo and Galaxy S7/S7 edge (EU version-Exynos) with Android 7 ?
Can Galaxy S7 operate with Galileo?
If Note 7 is/was confirmed to support Galileo, then it would, in theory, be possible for Dev's to create a MOD to enable it on S7/S7 Edge with Exynos 8890; is it?
S7 edge Nougat 7.0
Spartacus500 said:
S7 edge Nougat 7.0
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what type of s7 edge you are using?
and what ROM you are using?
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
ghbuur said:
just checked and mine finds galileo too. 935f, batman rom
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exynos or snapdragon?
jasoncled5 said:
exynos or snapdragon?
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exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
ghbuur said:
exynos, 30.09.2016 manufacturing date
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hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
jasoncled5 said:
hi, u live in germany?
where can i see my manufacturing date?
i have G935FD, should i try the batman rom just for the sake of galileo?
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no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
ghbuur said:
no in switzerland with phone info *samsung* app from play store. even if you would not use/need galileo I would give a shot with that rom. dev made a great work. little hint...combo with notorious kernel..
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are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
jasoncled5 said:
are u using the default setting of batman rom installation?
or does it even matter to obtain galileo?
if i dont use notorious kernel is there any effect of galileo compatibility?
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yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
ghbuur said:
yeah most is default except dual speaker, stock splash screen and some samsung apps i didn't install. but i guess those settings and even kernel doesn't matter concerning galileo. anyway the kernel is changed pretty fast. backup everything in recovery and try it out. hope I could help..
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yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
jasoncled5 said:
yea man i try it out right now
not sure since i live in asia can i get galileo compatibility
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philippines? i cannot imagine, should be worldwide like the russian and chinese "gps" too. let's see if the new rom helps..
Hello everyone, does anyone know if the SM-G950F purchased free will come with the free bootload or will you have to use it to free it?
Thank you.
lmmerono said:
Hello everyone, does anyone know if the SM-G950F purchased free will come with the free bootload or will you have to use it to free it?
Thank you.
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This has been discussed previously. Samsung added h/w level security to the Exynos 8895. Until it's in peoples hands no one knows for sure whether the changes will affect unlocking the bootloader.
gurinder073 said:
What version you think will have unlocked bootloader :good:
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Based on this, possibly none. If the only reason anyone is buying Exynos vs. S-835 is the unlocked bootloader you might want to hold off being the first to get it.
Finally, the Exynos 8895 also includes what Samsung is calling an “enhanced security sub-system with a separate security processing unit” for use with user authentication, mobile payments, and the like. Based on Samsung’s description this sounds a heck of a lot like Apple’s Secure Enclave, which would be a very welcome development, as in Apple’s case it has made their phones a lot harder to break into.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/samsung-announces-exynos-8895-soc-10nm
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Samsung added h/w level security to the Exynos 8895.
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What EXACTLY does this mean??
The Phone Company said:
What EXACTLY does this mean??
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Its been compared to the Apple Secure Enclave (Security Coprocessor). Here's its description...
Security circuit designed to perform secure services for the rest of the SOC
Prevents main processor from gaining direct access to sensitive data
Used to support a number of different services - Most notably Touch ID
Runs its own operating system - Includes its own kernel, drivers, services, and applications
Sounds to me like anything security related is being moved to a separate and independent h/w coprocessor that's an integrated component of the SoC. The motive has to be a level of security that's as impenetrable as Apple's and significantly stronger than s/w based alternatives. Here's something Qualcomm got called out on recently...
A blog post published Thursday revealed that in stark contrast to the iPhone's iOS, Qualcomm-powered Android devices store the disk encryption keys in software. That leaves the keys vulnerable to a variety of attacks that can pull a key off a device. From there, the key can be loaded onto a server cluster, field-programmable gate array, or supercomputer that has been optimized for super-fast password cracking.
https://arstechnica.com/security/20...sk-encryption-just-got-much-weaker-heres-why/
This is a Samsung first being introduced on the 8895. What it means and how its implemented remain to be seen but that level of security investment by Samsung can't be good for things likely hackable bootloaders.
So wait, the snapdragon that USA is getting maybe easier to get an unlocked bootloader for? Based on this convo I am reading here?
BarryH_GEG said:
This has been discussed previously. Samsung added h/w level security to the Exynos 8895. Until it's in peoples hands no one knows for sure whether the changes will affect unlocking the bootloader.
Based on this, possibly none. If the only reason anyone is buying Exynos vs. S-835 is the unlocked bootloader you might want to hold off being the first to get it.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11149/samsung-announces-exynos-8895-soc-10nm[/I]
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waiting for the answer to this!
So no one with an Exynos variant has tried to unlock the bootloader yet? Come on! Give us an answer! NOT Snapdragon, but Exynos. No Snapdragon owners need reply as you do NOT know. Only Exynos owners can answer this question.
Last year was simple OEM unlock for Galaxy S7 Exynos variants, I've been told repeatedly. That's what I'm talking about, whether it's still that easy or not.
I'm not talking about needing a dev to do magic.
GALAXY S7 EXYNOS
To OEM unlock is very easy on the exynos models . In our model is allow to do it with the click of a button , you have to:
Go to Settings / About device / Software info / Tap 7 times on Build number to enable Developer
Once developer options are enable ( you will see it under Settings) enter there you will see the option OEM Enable
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Will SOMEONE please check to see if this can still be done on Exynos Galaxy S8 or not?
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So no one with an Exynos variant has tried to unlock the bootloader yet? Come on! Give us an answer! NOT Snapdragon, but Exynos. No Snapdragon owners need reply as you do NOT know. Only Exynos owners can answer this question.
Last year was simple OEM unlock for Galaxy S7 Exynos variants, I've been told repeatedly. That's what I'm talking about, whether it's still that easy or not.
I'm not talking about needing a dev to do magic.
GALAXY S7 EXYNOS
Will SOMEONE please check to see if this can still be done on Exynos Galaxy S8 or not?
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Yes, I followed the same steps and it works
aristopo said:
Yes, I followed the same steps and it works
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You actually unlocked your bootloader, or you confirmed last year's steps lead to the same choice?
Either way, THANK you for providing the screenshot.
So many people were worried Samsung had "Snadrogoned" the Exynos S8, so especially here in XDA seems like finding out the answer would be prioritized over wallpapers discussion and stuff.
If you actually unlocked the bootloader, please reply. Is someone else does, please reply!
Thanks!
I am not a specialist and I hate doing things I don't know about to my brand new phone
I followed the steps an toggled the button to ON
It asked for my pw, and here I stopped ...
Sorry ... for not doing it all the way
ChazzMatt said:
You actually unlocked your bootloader, or you confirmed last year's steps lead to the same choice?
Either way, THANK you for providing the screenshot.
So many people were worried Samsung had "Snadrogoned" the Exynos S8, so especially here in XDA seems like finding out the answer would be prioritized over wallpapers discussion and stuff.
If you actually unlocked the bootloader, please reply. Is someone else does, please reply!
Thanks!
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aristopo said:
I am not a specialist and I hate doing things I don't know about to my brand new phone
I followed the steps an toggled the button to ON
It asked for my pw, and here I stopped ...
Sorry ... for not doing it all the way
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Thank you anyway for the screenshot. Now, hopefully someone else can do it? Surely someone wants an unlocked bootloader so you can have custom ROMs, custom kernels?
Finally! Somebody who knows what XDA is about. Nobody wanted to even try to unlock the Exynos.
TWRP recovery in the S8+ forum get here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3594756
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3594902