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So the Galaxy S Pro is looking fairly temping after getting the specs. Is the GPU really that more powerful than the EVO/Incredible/Nexus? What about the CPU? Also, what exactly is that custom UI running, and can it be disabled? Do you think it will be easy to get AOSP on the S Pro?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLUQP7CWyeQ
Touchwiz cannot be removed unless you root the phone.
I'm loving the custom UI on my galaxy. to me it is much better than all other UI's, especially with the added settings (ie: being able to change brightness of screen just by swiping left and right the notification area on top of phone)
phone is very very fast, especially on the internet, the GPU makes it even faster to load graphics.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLUQP7CWyeQ
Touchwiz cannot be removed unless you root the phone.
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Oh wow. I just watched that. I thought it was a video of the UI so I ignored it.
That's incredible! So how is the dev community for the Galaxy? Does it have nearly as large of a following as the HTC devices?
So i got the OTA update (i actually wiped my phone to start clean).. and the phone runs snappy, except for the home screen... scrolling through them is pretty laggy..
best described its like having 2.2 with a live background. just not smooth at all.
my atrix with 2.2 ran ALOT smoother on the homescreen (and yes this bothers me)... apps are fast etc, but its just choppy.
has anyone noticed this? i installed launcher pro to use for now and its smooth as butter..
me too felt the same .. had to install launcher pro in order for a smoother experience. Overall, i felt the screen seemed to be less responsive .. except for Gingerbread goodies .. i completely disliked this update. Battery issues, homescreen scrolling slow, touchscreen less responsive ..
it definitely is slower
and i miss the little buttons at the bottom for jumping to a screen
@viper: it is only changed. You can "swap Home" swiping from bottom (over fixed icons area) upwards the middle of the screen. In this way you can choose quickly what "home" to reach.
first post for me actually used to search thing found this thread, but besides alot of the awesome new features the lag on the home screen has really be bothering me
Even alot of my apps that were fine in froyo are now lagging, i haven't rooted, unlocked the bootloader or anything, i was personally waiting for this update to come out before i started to mess with any of that stuff, but for me everything besides opera mobile is noticably laggy. But for some reason opera is alot smoother
Slower?
My stock gingerbread runs so much better than Froyo. Infact even the Live Wallpapers have no effect on home screen scrolling. For the first time since I bought the phone I am not running any launcher as the new Blur runs just fine.
I did a factory reset soon after upgrading. May be you guys should try that.
opposite for me gingerbread much snappier.
launcher pro noticeably faster than ADW EX (which was what I used to use) so made the jump
wintermute000 said:
opposite for me gingerbread much snappier.
launcher pro noticeably faster than ADW EX (which was what I used to use) so made the jump
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tried that
seems to have had the opposite effect lol
noticeably slower now
for giggles i ran smartbench again and i'm now only getting around 2500 for productivity
1000 worse than before
My phone (completely stock) also lags since the upgrade. Home screen lags and some apps lag. Battery life is worse. The task bar looks horrible and many of the symbols hard to recognize. Froyo, with the exception of the unlock lag, was faster and smoother on my phone. I regret upgrading now but, unfortunately, I did not make a contingency plan for downgrading.
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My stock gingerbread runs so much better than Froyo. Infact even the Live Wallpapers have no effect on home screen scrolling. For the first time since I bought the phone I am not running any launcher as the new Blur runs just fine.
I did a factory reset soon after upgrading. May be you guys should try that.
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Yeah i may try a factory reset... just not sure how much it will help me though because i reset my device before i upgraded.
On another note, i actually rather like launcher pro... i might just keep it.
Go to Settings-> developer options->select Window animation scale and Transition Animation scale and change both to .5 instead of 1. Reboot and the phone is much snappier, at least it is for me.
You can also choose to disable both animations, to make it even faster.
This should make it feel snappier but I don't think it actually makes the phone faster. Sure the time it takes from one window to the next now is faster but this won't increase your benchmark results or anything like that. Regardless it does make it feel quicker; but once again it's an effect.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
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This should make it feel snappier but I don't think it actually makes the phone faster. Sure the time it takes from one window to the next now is faster but this won't increase your benchmark results or anything like that. Regardless it does make it feel quicker; but once again it's an effect.
-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note.
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True, but app windows open quicker and the phone is more responsive
I read this on the SGS3 thread, and did it to my note, not a lot of difference.
John.
I actually did the opposite and changed the window animation scale to 2x. This makes everything feel much more fluent and strangely enough less laggy (for me). More of a polished experience
Is just a Feel..
Put the one you like more
Thanks makes a big difference actually
The default 1x is already nice to me, snap n smooth.
this is a better tip disable all of samsung's bloatware running in the background
Also depends on the rom. I always change to 0.5
The smoothest rom so far for scrolling and in apps browsing seems to be rocket 7.
None of the asop based roms seem to achieve this and this is
surprising.
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I think go away from Samsung roms and into CM9 its smooth as butter. Running Apex launcher with live wallpapers have no effect on performance and everything opens as fast as possible.
Paranoid android is great with per app density settings so you can actually use the phone/tablet hybrid in that way, the stock samsung Rom's are like a big s2 for blind people, I can do with much smaller text and fit much more per screen then the over-sized touchwiz.
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this is a better tip disable all of samsung's bloatware running in the background
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What should I disable I m on stock Ics and I dnt understand y every time I clear off Ram it says 22 apps closed.
Thanks.
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So this is my fifth day with the galaxy S4 and I've observed it to be laggy and it freezes from time to time. I've read others saying the same and I'm hoping Samsung does a software update soon. What are your opinions and are their things I can do to make the experience better?
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Disabling Air View, Air Gesture, Smart Stay, Smart Scroll, freezing some bloat (including Samsung Link) have seemed to help me a little.
Overall though, it is definitely more choppy than I feel a phone of its caliber should be. I imagine its some stupid simple (CPU governor, some rogue bloatware, etc.) - I hope a remedy is found soon
Install Nova launcher and override the transition animations with either slide or ICS. That takes care of the stutters when opening and closing apps.
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Also under development options turn animations off and force gpu rendering, see if that helps you.
Disable a bunch of features,replace launcher and then disable animations and hope that stops the lag. Not good enough Sammy. Not good enough
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I've read that 4.2.2 has it's own lag issues on top of those introduced by TouchWiz. I use all the "Smart", "View" features and while I notice some lag here and there I feel these features are worth it. I really enjoy the Gesture scrolling in the stock browser, that makes people go, "Wha???". The only place I feel lag should NOT occur is in the keyboard, which is especially poor on the S4.
But all-in-all, I feel the features Samsung has added are worth the 1 to < 1 Sec lag I get here and there. Also, I've noticed freezing Samsung stuff can actually have an opposite effect. I have all Samsung stuff enabled/unfrozen and only froze the AT&T stuff, I get best battery life and response that way.
I recently bought a Tab Pro 10.1 and I was quite disappointed with the performance of it. For a device that -- on paper, at least -- was really powerful, I felt like the entire experience was very sluggish and clunky.
I wanted to share a couple of tweaks I made that helped boost performance dramatically.
1. Ditch the Samsung launcher. As cool as some of those tiled screens looked, it felt really slow and choppy to me. I gave Nova Launcher a try (I've also heard good things about Apex and Launcher Pro) and was extremely impressed with it. The tweaks that yielded the best performance gains were:
Scroll Speed - Faster Than Light
Animation Speed - Faster Than Light
App Animation - Slide*
* The stock animation on the Galaxy devices [the window that starts out minimized and then grows in size] is very choppy; let me add that the "Icecream Sandwich" option offers even better performance, but I thought it looked a little tacky.
Because the device is running such a huge resolution, these animations still look fine when set to such a fast speed. On my phone (Galaxy S4), I toned the settings down a little bit, because they were too fast. On a huge tablet though, they feel great to me.
2. Tweak the Scale Multipliers
In order to do this, I had to unlock Developer Options. Unlocking this mode can easily be done without rooting. Simply go into Settings -> General -> About Device and click on "Build Number" tab 7 times. This will unlock Developer Options (it'll show up as an entry in your left menu). After unlocking this, go into it and change the following settings:
Window Animation Scale - 0.5x
Transition Animation Scale - 0.5x
Animator Duration Scale - 0.5x*
This settings netted huge gains. The tablet felt so much more responsive for me, especially with regards to animations. In particular -- and perhaps this is a complete placebo effect -- I felt that scrolling (web pages, app lists, etc) was dramatically improved. Sluggish scrolling has always bothered the hell out of me with Android devices. This seemed to help a lot (again, it could just be a placebo, but I genuinely think it helped).
After making these two changes, it seriously feels like a brand new device (okay, well, I just bought this 2 days ago, it already is a brand new device). I went from being extremely disappointed in the performance to blown away by how snappy / responsive everything feels now. I know the 10.1's are sort of lacking with the ROMs we have available, but these tips will help a lot. Please note that all of this is sort of generic advice -- you can find most of this info available on other sites. However, I just wanted to share the changes I made that netted me the most dramatic performance improvements.
I'm guessing a lot of people are probably well-versed in suggestions like this, so hopefully I'm not preaching to the choir.
I hope this helps!
Thanks a lot. I am looking to buy one. but can't decide which one I should get, the 8.4 or 10.1
I don't like that samsung cpu alot. And I think the 8.4 come with snapdragon 800. but I like the size of 10.1. sigh....
Thanks for the info. You're right, just switching to Nova Launcher (and rebooting) made a difference in the RAM usage. Tried your settings, they're nice and snappy. Plus I must admit having the launcher bar at the bottom feels a lot more natural.
I did not believe it really fast .. I do not recognize tablet .. thank you
This worked wonderfully!
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thanks for all the info bud:good: I think the best option is to use the stock rooted de bloated rom! Something you can trust,,, i always use the stock rom on all the tablets, where is different on the mobile phone lol,
I am pissed off with all these stupid samsung apps and stuff i never use... keeps updating all the time, so bloody annoying, it's been a week and is so tempting to root it haha, cannot resist the temptation
Not sure if you're referring to the same tablet. The T520 that the I have is super fast and responsive!
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dknotty said:
Not sure if you're referring to the same tablet. The T520 that the I have is super fast and responsive!
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The tablet is not necessarily "slow" per se, but it feels slow and sluggish. For whatever reason, stock Android animations have always been terrible. Have you ever used an iOS device before? I prefer Android for about a billion reasons, but one thing iOS absolutely nails is their animations in their user interfaces. Everything on those devices feels as smooth as butter. One thing I've found is that that this is all a matter of perception; for some people, it doesn't bother them at all. For others, it drives them crazy. It's subtle, but once you notice it, it's really annoying. It's almost impossible not to notice if you've used an iOS device for an extended period of time (I owned an iPhone for a couple years). Responsiveness is something that Google has focused on (check out search Google for "Project Butter" for more info).
With every Android device I've used, the animations have looked cheap and clunky. They're not smooth (and never have been). They are choppy and they stutter; the best way I can describe it is like when you're playing a computer game on high settings and your framerate starts to drop. It doesn't look smooth and natural anymore -- it looks inconsistent. Android animations often look like frames are missing.
With the stock settings, go to your home page and start cycling through the pages quickly. For me, whenever it loaded those tiled pages (the thing with the calendar/email widgets, or the digital newspaper page), there was a noticeable hiccup. Successive cycles through the home pages would often feel smoother -- it seems that the device must temporarily cache some of the rendered data for a while. However, when it's of memory and needs to render again, the stuttering returns.
Also, try opening an app. By default, it plays that animation that looks like a window maximizing from a taskbar. That animation was always very choppy for me. Again, it looked like it was missing frames. Using Nova Launcher, I've switched to the Ice Cream Sandwich-style animation (sort of looks like a tube TV turning on), and it feels way more responsive and instantaneous to me.
Again, none of these changes are actually speeding up the device. It's just lowering animation times so that things feel faster.
Fresh owner of Pro Tab 10.1 T520 here :fingers-crossed:
i'm also kinda disappointed, i've rooted, changed kernel for better performance ditch the Samsung bloadware but still kinda lagy
I'm really considering to replace it with Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) i need Snapdragon power
I already had a 8.4 and bought a 10.1 because they are selling them so cheap. After disabling all the bloatware, I think that the speed is just fine, no lags, stutters or whatever. Make sure you really disable everything. To me it's not a big difference in speed with the 8.4.
Hello everyone,
I'm waiting to receive my SM-T520 10.1, replacing a Galaxy Note 10.1 (GT-N8010) broken.
I just tested these settings on my Note2 (GT-N7100). Antutu gives me before your adjustment in economic mode: 17941 And after with your settings. 18476, a real gain.
@ New tricks.
My SM-T525 runs fantastic with Cyanogenmod 11!
I've been hoping to get rid of Magazine UX and the rest of the bloat since I first fired up the device!
Hey guys,
i am about to get a 10.1 and i was wondering if i can use the multi-tasking feature (2 screens on the display) with Nova or Apex launcher or is it only for TouchWiz?
Best regards
I use it with Apex Launcher just fine.
Works fine with Nova too.
I tried these settings, along with cybertronics v5 kernel and graveds rom. I am not disappoint! Very impressive responsiveness and feels ridiculously smooth. Everyone should do this. Thanks!
Hello,
I have my Pro Tab 10.1 and 8 days, with your settings and it is the bomb ! :good:
Thanks, guys, i ordered it today!
I hope i will receive it on Monday!
Have a nice weekend! :good:
drbilliedds said:
Thanks, guys, i ordered it today!
I hope i will receive it on Monday!
Have a nice weekend! :good:
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Thank you, courage and patience you ! :victory:
I am about to get delivery of a 12.2 Tab Pro. Really excited at having all that real estate to play with. I travel a lot for work and can't wait to be able to watch movies on that monster screen. Anyone else here have one of these beasts?
BTW upgrading from a Asus Prime that served well and will now be handed down to my kid