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I am so done with Android

I have been using Android since cupcake and it's going to end with my Nexus One. Reasons:
These are problems I've had with various roms, most stock roms, some MIUI:
- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
- My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
- To fix the above I got Better Keyboard. It force closes often, and sometimes when I try to type with it what I'm typing doesn't get inserted into the selected input box.
- I got five hours of STANDBY (not using phone at all) battery life on Gingerbread. I had to downgrade back to froyo to get normal battery life back.
- After ten seconds or so if you don't use your screen it's supposed to DIM. Regardless of whether or not I'm using my phone it still dims after ten seconds.
So as far as Android goes come October when my three year Bell contract expires I'll be selecting an iPhone. I am done with Android problems of all kinds. That's not to say there's not a lot of things I like about Android but I can't just keep on going with it whilst experiencing these annoying problems, when I've never experienced any problems of any sort on my jailbroken iPad.

Did you ever try using your warranty? Really sounds like you had a dodgy handset.

Sounds like your phone is a lemon. I experience none of that....don't think anything you mentioned is a problem of android itself, you just got unlucky with your phone
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Sounds like some bad flashing you been doing to your phone
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lemons
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You must be holding it wrong, those are some crazy problems you are experiencing ... I've never had any of those.

Macmee said:
- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
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Not related to Android in the slightest. You're having a HARDWARE problem.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
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Not related to Android in the slightest. You're having a HARDWARE problem.
My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
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In all of my time with Android, on multiple devices, I have NEVER once seen this issue. Something is wrong with the custom rom you're running... which btw, YOU flashed on your phone.
To fix the above I got Better Keyboard. It force closes often, and sometimes when I try to type with it what I'm typing doesn't get inserted into the selected input box.
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So some janky app YOU installed is causing a problem? Uninstall it and find something better.
I got five hours of STANDBY (not using phone at all) battery life on Gingerbread. I had to downgrade back to froyo to get normal battery life back.
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Did you try and diagnose this at all? Were you having a wake lock issue? Was some app freezing?
I go all day on Gingerbread, especially if I don't even use it...
After ten seconds or so if you don't use your screen it's supposed to DIM. Regardless of whether or not I'm using my phone it still dims after ten seconds.
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Again, this sounds like either something wrong with your rom or a hardware issue. I have never seen this issue.
Yeah, you're an idiot. Sorry, but you're blaming problems that either you have created or hardware problems on Android, the operating system.
But go ahead and leave Android. It sounds like you're not really technology capable of much more than an iPhone (and really, this is probably going to be pushing your technological limits it seems), so that is probably what you should stick to.

I won't be as harsh as the others
The only problem you mentioned that is N1 related is the screen, rest are probably rom related. If your flahsing all those roms you already know they are not guaranteed to work on all phones.
If you want to try another phone, try the new Sensation or equivalent. Android is still much better than Apple. IMHO. That said, my son and his wife have been Apple users for 20 years or as long as I can remember. They have used nothing else. So, I think the iphone is a good phone, just not for everyone. As android is not for everyone. I once thought Blackberry was unbeatable, I was wrong bigtime. When I first started using them, they may have been. But, not any more.
You are probably like me and get an itch to try something different. I am currently running RCADSmix Sense rom with a number of issues. But, I like it so much, I will put up with the issues. Probably means my next phone will be the Sensation or it's future quadcore brother.
Enjoy whatever you get, I still remember when a six transistor am radio was an upgrade. These are great tech times--
Ken

If you really can't realize that the problems you are experiencing are hardware related...it's probably better you get an iphone. Bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out

So as far as Android goes come October when my three year Bell contract expires I'll be selecting an iPhone. I am done with Android problems of all kinds. That's not to say there's not a lot of things I like about Android but I can't just keep on going with it whilst experiencing these annoying problems, when I've never experienced any problems of any sort on my jailbroken iPad.
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Im just guessing here but your in Canada with bell? bell doesn't offer the nexus one. how are you on a contract? Ill also agree with everyone else your problems are not android related. Sounds like a hardware issue. Good luck with the iPhone my brother loves his. I like the design but that's it.

Just flashed cyanogen latest version. New problems:
1. Sometimes when turning on the phone the lock screen doesn't show up, just my background displays and nothing else. Reboot required by pulling battery out in order to fix.
2. Display menus don't show up sometimes.
3. Already experienced this one, but the keyboard is yet again going completely white.
Anyone want to point me towards an actual working rom without any problems or does such a thing exist
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Im just guessing here but your in Canada with bell? bell doesn't offer the nexus one. how are you on a contract? Ill also agree with everyone else your problems are not android related. Sounds like a hardware issue. Good luck with the iPhone my brother loves his. I like the design but that's it.
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I bought it outright two years into my contract when I had a vogue.
Babydoll25 said:
If you really can't realize that the problems you are experiencing are hardware related...it's probably better you get an iphone. Bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out
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Because not all of these problems are with the hardware and you, or myself are incapable of diagnosing them without more extensive investigation to the handset.

Roms work fine. Your phone doesn't

Most people have no or little problems with these roms
Most if not all issues are improper flashing or incomplete wipes--like not wiping system and data and caches multiple times
Check md5s
Or, not properly partitioning sdcard
If still issues then the phone has too many bad blocks for the rom and kernal
Ken

After reading your first post again, I think it is your phone and not common issues. I have never had a bad camera unless specifically noted on the OP page of an alpha type rom.
I can tell you how I do my sdcard and prepare for a new rom if you like. If my procedure doesn't work you will never have any better luck flashing with that particular phone.
Sorry
Ken

I'm with Telus on my N1 and i've never ever seen any of the problems you mentioned. I've also flashed alot of different roms/kernels/apps/etc and nothing like you had mentioned.
I did however have an issue that resembles your camera issue. Mine was the GPS causing my phone to reboot every time i used it. I didn't really notice it much until i started using it for GPS nav and such. Tried flashing different roms, going back to stock and issue still came up. Called HTC and sent my phone back under warranty. They told me they replaced the board and i have not seen the problem ever since.
I strongly recommend giving HTC a call and see if you can send your phone in for repairs.

That's what iPhone is for. To protect incompetents like yourself from themselves.
You should be nowhere near a rooted phone.

I have the exact same camera issue. The reason is a date of my beloved Nexus and my washing mashine. So it might be a hardware problem for you as well. Sometimes with some roms the camera seems to work 1 out of 10 times.
Bluetooth, fm radio died as well but everthing else is just fine. Some roms seem to check/use camera, radio or bluetooth during a reboot. Then the rom won't start at all or it makes random problems.
This phone is a beast. 20 minutes in the washing mashine at 60°C couldn't really destroy it. Even between screen and digitizer there was water and I had to disamble the phone three times and dry the parts for one week in a rice bowl to get it to work again.

xManMythLegend said:
That's what iPhone is for. To protect incompetents like yourself from themselves.
You should be nowhere near a rooted phone.
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+1
sent from SGS Captivate 2.3.4 with CM7 or MIUI using Escapist or TKglitch

- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
- My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
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Got this also, annoying but I'm quite sure it goes along with flashes. Pretty sure it will be normal on stock rom.

Actually mate I think you should upgrade your radio...
I used to have this issue with the camera before, get the latest radio and ur camera issue will be solved.
and the battery as well i guess
as for the keyboard and all the other problems just go to rom manager and flash cm 7.1 rc1 from there, make sure you wipe cache, and dalvik cache
it should solve ur issues
Android is a more technical platform, it is by default that the user likes going technical before getting an android

[SOLVED] Camera Flash Shutdown

As some of us know, after knowing your Desire HD for quite a long time, flashing a ROM such as CM7 has incurred problems such as camera flash shutdowns.
The explanation for this is simple! :laugh: It is NOT (by about 99.999%) a hardware fault. It is due to the phone withdrawing too much power at boot due to some voltage settings and kernels...​
Solution 1
Change your kernel and adjust voltage settings...
Solution 2 (The better one)
Replace your Desire HD battery, it may seem drastic for some cheapskates (like me), but is effective. ONLY do this is Solution 1 didn't work. Also, it may give you better battery life.
Solution 3 EXTREME MEASURES
Revert to a stock ROM... NOT a flashed one, I mean a full fledged RUU (Rom Update Utility).
For RUU's check out the Development forum.
FINAL SOLUTION (MOST EXTREMELY FREAKING WEIRD MEASURES)
Lock bootloader, undo s-off and contact HTC.
In my personal experience the battery solution was the best and worked like a charm.
Have a good day.
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Come on... 103 views and no thanks..? Come on people!!!

can you explain more about solution 1 !

Dr. Globbyglob said:
Come on... 103 views and no thanks..? Come on people!!!
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Not sure if serious... :/

PHOENIX-9 said:
can you explain more about solution 1 !
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Go to the development section, go to the index and look at the kernel category. Pick one that seems good to you and use it. The dev might also write about what voltages are good for the kernel, and to change them I recommend SetCPU

I hope I helped the poor poor people with this issue.

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For me this issue comes and goes, so I guess it's a kernel/system settings related.
right now on Sabsa Prime v11 @1.5Ghz and no issues with flash.

-SmOgER said:
For me this issue comes and goes, so I guess it's a kernel/system settings related.
right now on Sabsa Prime v11 @1.5Ghz and no issues with flash.
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That's nice, this tutorial was just for those people who are going absolutely KAY-RAY-ZEE at their DHD's. (like me)

I had the same issue, on a stock phone. The DHD would first shut down when doing a photo with flash, then when simply doing a photo, then sometimes without any apparent reasons, even with screen off. In the last times it would works only when without the sim card, every time i booted with SIM in the phone shutted down at the moment it was gaining signal.
I bought a new battery and, by now at least, it solved everything.

D-7 said:
I had the same issue, on a stock phone. The DHD would first shut down when doing a photo with flash, then when simply doing a photo, then sometimes without any apparent reasons, even with screen off. In the last times it would works only when without the sim card, every time i booted with SIM in the phone shutted down at the moment it was gaining signal.
I bought a new battery and, by now at least, it solved everything.
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Yay just like me! Nice that it worked, it happened to me as well. Plus do click thanks though.

YAY!

WiFi issue

So I ran down the list of options, wiping phone, new ROM new kernel, greenify...a number of thing, I guess I've come to the conclusion that WiFi is messed up or something...I may have asked aboutbthis before but I was just wondering if anyone else is having a similar problem? Every time I use it my battery gets destroyed... Using data cost less battery, my old htc never did that so it made think maybe it was this phone and the way maybe it handled WiFi?
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I find it funny that you completely modify your phone (new ROM and kernel) and are now surprised that you are having problems. Did you have these problems when you were stock?
ODIN back to stock, root the phone if you desire, but don't mess with anything else. See if your problems go away, and I bet they will. I've had no issues with this phone and I never bothered to waste my time flashing anything to it. There is simply no need for it. Custom anything made my old S3 run like crap with much worse battery life, and I don't expect anything different from the S4. Otherwise, Wifi can use more battery, depending on the strength of the signal as compared to 3G/4G.

sputnik767 said:
I find it funny that you completely modify your phone (new ROM and kernel) and are now surprised that you are having problems. Did you have these problems when you were stock?
ODIN back to stock, root the phone if you desire, but don't mess with anything else. See if your problems go away, and I bet they will. I've had no issues with this phone and I never bothered to waste my time flashing anything to it. There is simply no need for it. Custom anything made my old S3 run like crap with much worse battery life, and I don't expect anything different from the S4. Otherwise, Wifi can use more battery, depending on the strength of the signal as compared to 3G/4G.
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thanks, will do

Rocklee99 said:
thanks, will do
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What rom and kernel did you flash?

If Nexus6P got bootloop and fixed, Will run 8 cores again after update to Android 8

I fixed my phone follow link https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-bootloop-fix/. Now my phone is back but I was wondering how to bring phone run 8 cores instead using 4 cores is very slow and sometime freeze. Is there any way to fix performance?
Maybe Android 8 will fix it ?
Thank you.

AFAIK the answer is no, it is not related to Android.

psuputspon said:
I was fix my phone follow by https://www.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p-bootloop-fix/. Now my phone has back again but I was wondering how to bring phone run 8 cores instead now is 4 cores is very slow and sometime freeze or Is there any way to fix performance? May be Android 8 will fix it ? Thank you.
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No. The bootloop "fix" is a workaround that permanently hobbles your device, allowing you to make backups and remove any photos/data you need from the phone so you can transfer to your next phone. Since your phone has a hardware defect directly related to the motherboard, there is no software update that will help. Take everything you need off the phone asap and start looking for your next phone.

v12xke said:
No. The bootloop "fix" is a workaround that permanently hobbles your device, allowing you to make backups and remove any photos/data you need from the phone so you can transfer to your next phone. Since your phone has a hardware defect directly related to the motherboard, there is no software update that will help. Take everything you need off the phone asap and start looking for your next phone.
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Um...no? I mean, it's not that it hobbles your phone. And it's not that it's just a workaround to make backups. In fact it runs almost the same. Turns out, after some digging in, @XCnathan32 found out that even a normal 6p was throtling it's 4 BIG cores from 2ghz to 800mhz, because of which the phone was heating up and marginally running better as compared to the current fix. Now it doesn't heat up and runs slightly lower (not even noticable) than what it used to.
My phone, for one, works almost identical. No dip in performance for my usual activities - no games. Occasionally I run Drastic DS for some emulated NDS games. Never had a bootloop since.
As for the original question: the bootlooping will still occur. It seems to be a hardware issue as far as what I've followed in XCnathan32's posts.
The same link that OP has, will take him to the fix with the flashable Oreo kernels as well.

Tivaldi said:
Um...no? I mean, it's not that it hobbles your phone. And it's not that it's just a workaround to make backups. In fact it runs almost the same. Turns out, after some digging in, @XCnathan32 found out that even a normal 6p was throtling it's 4 BIG cores from 2ghz to 800mhz, because of which the phone was heating up and marginally running better as compared to the current fix. Now it doesn't heat up and runs slightly lower (not even noticable) than what it used to.
My phone, for one, works almost identical. No dip in performance for my usual activities - no games. Occasionally I run Drastic DS for some emulated NDS games. Never had a bootloop since.
As for the original question: the bootlooping will still occur. It seems to be a hardware issue as far as what I've followed in XCnathan32's posts.
The same link that OP has, will take him to the fix with the flashable Oreo kernels as well.
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Have you heard reports from people that got bootloopd again after applying the 4 core fix?

darkriff said:
Have you heard reports from people that got bootloopd again after applying the 4 core fix?
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I haven't read any such. There may be. I believe the best person to answer this would be the creator of the bootloop fix, since people with such issues would PM him.

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No. The bootloop "fix" is a workaround that permanently hobbles your device, allowing you to make backups and remove any photos/data you need from the phone so you can transfer to your next phone. Since your phone has a hardware defect directly related to the motherboard, there is no software update that will help. Take everything you need off the phone asap and start looking for your next phone.
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So the boot loop issue has been definitively identified as a hardware issue then? I just got paid out for my Square Trade insurance on my 6P and was considering going back hoping against hope that O would finally fix some of this stuff. Damn shame...

BushidoCowboy said:
So the boot loop issue has been definitively identified as a hardware issue then? I just got paid out for my Square Trade insurance on my 6P and was considering going back hoping against hope that O would finally fix some of this stuff. Damn shame...
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BLOD is a hardware defect plain and simple. No software upgrade (or workaround) will ever change this but not all devices are affected. I think the chances of you finding a NEW 6P are pretty slim... but still possible. We have two 6P's that are approaching 2 years old and no sign of battery degradation or any other issues. I wouldn't touch a refurb at this stage. Probably the best bang for the buck would be a Pixel XL, now the new ones are in the pipeline, prices should be dropping significantly.

I get alert to update Android 8 today. It's worth to update?. Anyone who has experience update the phone with patch fixed bootloop. Is there any concern?

psuputspon said:
I get alert to update Android 8 today. It's worth to update?. Anyone who has experience update the phone with patch fixed bootloop. Is there any concern?
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If your device is stock there is no concern and yes, you should take the update . If you had the bootloop issue and needed to apply the workaround to your device to get it working, then you will have to wait because the update would overwrite the fix.

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If your device is stock there is no concern and yes, you should take the update . If you had the bootloop issue and needed to apply the workaround to your device to get it working, then you will have to wait because the update would overwrite the fix.
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I tried to OTA update but it can't install then I decided to flash stock with google image and flash to fix bootloop again then I can't open it stuck in loading animation. my device is gone now, Dead completely.
Ps. I installed twrp also before flashing is OTA problem to update

Maximum micro SD port speed for this model?

I tried to use some micro sd cards I haven't used for a while, but when I switch my micro SD as internal storage the OS says: the speed is too low and my phone would become pretty slow. Before I to find some high speed micro SD card in amazon my question is this:
What's the maximum reading and writing speed the micro SD port in this port can handle?
Which micro SD card model should I buy as internal storage for this phone if the speed supported by the port is beyond 20 mbs/s while reading?
Thanks in advance.

Never use a SD card for running apps.
Use as a data drive only.
Use a V30 rated card from a reliable manufacturer.

blackhawk said:
Never use a SD card for running apps.
Use as a data drive only.
Use a V30 rated card from a reliable manufacturer.
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the sad thing is the apps won't use the SD card as data storage since android 6.0, my internal storage cannot hold all my apps and runs 90% storage full all the time :´c.

hunkdorlian said:
the sad thing is the apps won't use the SD card as data storage since android 6.0, my internal storage cannot hold all my apps and runs 90% storage full all the time :´c.
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Move the DCIM folder to the SD card.
Weed out the trash apps if any.
Find better coded freeware apps that use less memory.
Clear browser data as needed.
Clear any large caches as needed.
You need at least 1 gb of free space.
I have a S4+ that has 16gb internal memory so I know the feeling. Probably getting to be upgrade time.

blackhawk said:
Move the DCIM folder to the SD card.
Weed out the trash apps if any.
Find better coded freeware apps that use less memory.
Clear browser data as needed.
Clear any large caches as needed.
You need at least 1 gb of free space.
I have a S4+ that has 16gb internal memory so I know the feeling. Probably getting to be upgrade time.
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thanks for the tips these will help me greatly, by the way, which ROM would you suggest me to use for this old good phone?

hunkdorlian said:
thanks for the tips these will help me greatly, by the way, which ROM would you suggest me to use for this old good phone?
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Don't know. If you were on Pie, which I doubt, stay there. I personally stick to stock for more predictable results.

blackhawk said:
Don't know. If you were on Pie, which I doubt, stay there. I personally stick to stock for more predictable results.
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yeah i'm still in pie =0. sadly my bank apps won't support stock android firmware anymore.

hunkdorlian said:
yeah i'm still in pie =0. sadly my bank apps won't support stock android firmware anymore.
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Leave it there. Pie is the best version in my opinion. Android 10 would screw it up.
My 10+ is still on Pie, deliberately.

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Leave it there. Pie is the best version in my opinion. Android 10 would screw it up.
My 10+ is still on Pie, deliberately.
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hopefully Pie will be still valid some years more.

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hopefully Pie will be still valid some years more.
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I'm getting my second new 10+ N975U today.
One reason a searched high and low for a new one was a guarantee it be loaded with Pie not Q!
Twins. Hell yeah. I will see how fast I can load the new one up. Give SmartSwitch a test run.
With the way Android is going downhill with scope storage and bloating, Pie will remain viable for years to come unless you're into gaming perhaps. Older valuable apps that can't run right on Q and above will continue to be usable.
No gross security issues at all... I know as I've ran with this OS on some of the worst websites there are using Brave and Samsung browser. Various adblockers are running.
No malware has made it through in over a year in spite of its "security issues". There have been a over a dozen maybe two of app samplings that were uninstalled with no damaged.
I'm careful with bt and keep wifi disabled... other than that I use it without concern.
At 16 months old it's my longest running OS load ever. It's been heavily used.
Still fast and very stable... no need to reload it yet. That impresses me as well as the fact it continues to fullfill it's mission and remains 100% functional.
Upgrading it would only cause trouble and lots of lost time.

blackhawk said:
I'm getting my second new 10+ N975U today.
One reason a searched high and low for a new one was a guarantee it be loaded with Pie not Q!
Twins. Hell yeah. I will see how fast I can load the new one up. Give SmartSwitch a test run.
With the way Android is going downhill with scope storage and bloating, Pie will remain viable for years to come unless you're into gaming perhaps. Older valuable apps that can't run right on Q and above will continue to be usable.
No gross security issues at all... I know as I've ran with this OS on some of the worst websites there are using Brave and Samsung browser. Various adblockers are running.
No malware has made it through in over a year in spite of its "security issues". There have been a over a dozen maybe two of app samplings that were uninstalled with no damaged.
I'm careful with bt and keep wifi disabled... other than that I use it without concern.
At 16 months old it's my longest running OS load ever. It's been heavily used.
Still fast and very stable... no need to reload it yet. That impresses me as well as the fact it continues to fullfill it's mission and remains 100% functional.
Upgrading it would only cause trouble and lots of lost time.
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My only real trouble with my S4 is the battery, in my country original batteries are long gone and the generic ones my mobile turns off at 30% and increasing over the year. I wonder which generic battery is the best of the market nowadays.

hunkdorlian said:
My only real trouble with my S4 is the battery, in my country original batteries are long gone and the generic ones my mobile turns off at 30% and increasing over the year. I wonder which generic battery is the best of the market nowadays.
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Try to find batteries made in Vietnam not China.
If your SOT has diminished greatly, replace the degraded Li before it fails.
If you get a newer phone don't get one running on Adroid 11, it's a dog.
Unfortunately the new 10+ was loaded on Android 10. That OS doesn't seem bad but caused me scramble to accommodate it. I should have seen that coming