I am so done with Android - Nexus One General

I am so done with Android - Nexus One General

I have been using Android since cupcake and it's going to end with my Nexus One. Reasons:
These are problems I've had with various roms, most stock roms, some MIUI:
- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
- My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
- To fix the above I got Better Keyboard. It force closes often, and sometimes when I try to type with it what I'm typing doesn't get inserted into the selected input box.
- I got five hours of STANDBY (not using phone at all) battery life on Gingerbread. I had to downgrade back to froyo to get normal battery life back.
- After ten seconds or so if you don't use your screen it's supposed to DIM. Regardless of whether or not I'm using my phone it still dims after ten seconds.
So as far as Android goes come October when my three year Bell contract expires I'll be selecting an iPhone. I am done with Android problems of all kinds. That's not to say there's not a lot of things I like about Android but I can't just keep on going with it whilst experiencing these annoying problems, when I've never experienced any problems of any sort on my jailbroken iPad.

Did you ever try using your warranty? Really sounds like you had a dodgy handset.

Sounds like your phone is a lemon. I experience none of that....don't think anything you mentioned is a problem of android itself, you just got unlucky with your phone
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Sounds like some bad flashing you been doing to your phone
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lemons
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You must be holding it wrong, those are some crazy problems you are experiencing ... I've never had any of those.

Macmee said:
- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
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Not related to Android in the slightest. You're having a HARDWARE problem.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
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Not related to Android in the slightest. You're having a HARDWARE problem.
My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
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In all of my time with Android, on multiple devices, I have NEVER once seen this issue. Something is wrong with the custom rom you're running... which btw, YOU flashed on your phone.
To fix the above I got Better Keyboard. It force closes often, and sometimes when I try to type with it what I'm typing doesn't get inserted into the selected input box.
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So some janky app YOU installed is causing a problem? Uninstall it and find something better.
I got five hours of STANDBY (not using phone at all) battery life on Gingerbread. I had to downgrade back to froyo to get normal battery life back.
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Did you try and diagnose this at all? Were you having a wake lock issue? Was some app freezing?
I go all day on Gingerbread, especially if I don't even use it...
After ten seconds or so if you don't use your screen it's supposed to DIM. Regardless of whether or not I'm using my phone it still dims after ten seconds.
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Again, this sounds like either something wrong with your rom or a hardware issue. I have never seen this issue.
Yeah, you're an idiot. Sorry, but you're blaming problems that either you have created or hardware problems on Android, the operating system.
But go ahead and leave Android. It sounds like you're not really technology capable of much more than an iPhone (and really, this is probably going to be pushing your technological limits it seems), so that is probably what you should stick to.

I won't be as harsh as the others
The only problem you mentioned that is N1 related is the screen, rest are probably rom related. If your flahsing all those roms you already know they are not guaranteed to work on all phones.
If you want to try another phone, try the new Sensation or equivalent. Android is still much better than Apple. IMHO. That said, my son and his wife have been Apple users for 20 years or as long as I can remember. They have used nothing else. So, I think the iphone is a good phone, just not for everyone. As android is not for everyone. I once thought Blackberry was unbeatable, I was wrong bigtime. When I first started using them, they may have been. But, not any more.
You are probably like me and get an itch to try something different. I am currently running RCADSmix Sense rom with a number of issues. But, I like it so much, I will put up with the issues. Probably means my next phone will be the Sensation or it's future quadcore brother.
Enjoy whatever you get, I still remember when a six transistor am radio was an upgrade. These are great tech times--
Ken

If you really can't realize that the problems you are experiencing are hardware related...it's probably better you get an iphone. Bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out

So as far as Android goes come October when my three year Bell contract expires I'll be selecting an iPhone. I am done with Android problems of all kinds. That's not to say there's not a lot of things I like about Android but I can't just keep on going with it whilst experiencing these annoying problems, when I've never experienced any problems of any sort on my jailbroken iPad.
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Im just guessing here but your in Canada with bell? bell doesn't offer the nexus one. how are you on a contract? Ill also agree with everyone else your problems are not android related. Sounds like a hardware issue. Good luck with the iPhone my brother loves his. I like the design but that's it.

Just flashed cyanogen latest version. New problems:
1. Sometimes when turning on the phone the lock screen doesn't show up, just my background displays and nothing else. Reboot required by pulling battery out in order to fix.
2. Display menus don't show up sometimes.
3. Already experienced this one, but the keyboard is yet again going completely white.
Anyone want to point me towards an actual working rom without any problems or does such a thing exist
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Im just guessing here but your in Canada with bell? bell doesn't offer the nexus one. how are you on a contract? Ill also agree with everyone else your problems are not android related. Sounds like a hardware issue. Good luck with the iPhone my brother loves his. I like the design but that's it.
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I bought it outright two years into my contract when I had a vogue.
Babydoll25 said:
If you really can't realize that the problems you are experiencing are hardware related...it's probably better you get an iphone. Bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out
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Because not all of these problems are with the hardware and you, or myself are incapable of diagnosing them without more extensive investigation to the handset.

Roms work fine. Your phone doesn't

Most people have no or little problems with these roms
Most if not all issues are improper flashing or incomplete wipes--like not wiping system and data and caches multiple times
Check md5s
Or, not properly partitioning sdcard
If still issues then the phone has too many bad blocks for the rom and kernal
Ken

After reading your first post again, I think it is your phone and not common issues. I have never had a bad camera unless specifically noted on the OP page of an alpha type rom.
I can tell you how I do my sdcard and prepare for a new rom if you like. If my procedure doesn't work you will never have any better luck flashing with that particular phone.
Sorry
Ken

I'm with Telus on my N1 and i've never ever seen any of the problems you mentioned. I've also flashed alot of different roms/kernels/apps/etc and nothing like you had mentioned.
I did however have an issue that resembles your camera issue. Mine was the GPS causing my phone to reboot every time i used it. I didn't really notice it much until i started using it for GPS nav and such. Tried flashing different roms, going back to stock and issue still came up. Called HTC and sent my phone back under warranty. They told me they replaced the board and i have not seen the problem ever since.
I strongly recommend giving HTC a call and see if you can send your phone in for repairs.

That's what iPhone is for. To protect incompetents like yourself from themselves.
You should be nowhere near a rooted phone.

I have the exact same camera issue. The reason is a date of my beloved Nexus and my washing mashine. So it might be a hardware problem for you as well. Sometimes with some roms the camera seems to work 1 out of 10 times.
Bluetooth, fm radio died as well but everthing else is just fine. Some roms seem to check/use camera, radio or bluetooth during a reboot. Then the rom won't start at all or it makes random problems.
This phone is a beast. 20 minutes in the washing mashine at 60°C couldn't really destroy it. Even between screen and digitizer there was water and I had to disamble the phone three times and dry the parts for one week in a rice bowl to get it to work again.

xManMythLegend said:
That's what iPhone is for. To protect incompetents like yourself from themselves.
You should be nowhere near a rooted phone.
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sent from SGS Captivate 2.3.4 with CM7 or MIUI using Escapist or TKglitch

- The Camera, no matter which ROMS I get when I try and take a picture it reboots the phone after freezing. I cannot use my 5MP camera at all because of this.
- After leaving the phone charging for awhile then going back to it when I push one spot on the screen it thinks I've pushed a completely different spot. I require a full reboot to fix this.
- My keyboard, stock keyboard, sometimes turns all white. You then cannot see what you're typing and there's just this big white bar.
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Got this also, annoying but I'm quite sure it goes along with flashes. Pretty sure it will be normal on stock rom.

Actually mate I think you should upgrade your radio...
I used to have this issue with the camera before, get the latest radio and ur camera issue will be solved.
and the battery as well i guess
as for the keyboard and all the other problems just go to rom manager and flash cm 7.1 rc1 from there, make sure you wipe cache, and dalvik cache
it should solve ur issues
Android is a more technical platform, it is by default that the user likes going technical before getting an android

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New level of dissapointment from my HD2...HELP

Well ive had my hd2 since it came out and for me the only times its truly worked right is the 10mins after its been hard reset
last night i updated to 1.72 from 1.66 and if anything its slower, even with no apps installed and all my music files off it
. 1- from 9am to 10.30am it managed to use 35% battery even tho i hadnt touched it or left an app running in the background after a full nights charge
. 2- the signal is still intermittant, when its on the table it get full signal but as soon as i pick it up signal drops to 0 bars
. 3- sms types about 1 letter per second and randomly jumps the typing line about
. 4- it still thinks at 3am i want to be on the internet during my sleep so stays connected for 8 hours
. 5- the interface is sluggish (slower than winmo normaly) and even moving the unlock slider is a game to get it to actually work
. 6- when i hang up a call the screen does not change for over 1min
. 7- my contacts that are linked with facebook randomly change image to those that others have
. 8- when i press the power button to turn it on from stanby the key backlights come on but thats about it, 2mins later the screen comes on
sometimes i wonder if the phone thinks its a jam sandwich as it acts like one 90% of the time
their are brief points in the day when its working at 100%
but the rest im being forced to use a Nokia 3210i which tbh is far beating my HD2 as a phone at the moment
if you can help i would be much appreciated, otherwise im going to have a chat to vodafone about where i stand with returning it for a phone that works ok all the time, rather than brilliantly on occasion
Cheers

how about trying a custom ROM there loads better, (a new radio will help with the signal)
there is quite a few ways to just turn your data connection off (cabs)

No 7,. the facebook thing, i have 4 facebook contacts who every few weeks, always the same 4, their 'display as' email names get swapped around.
that is a pretty comprehensive list of all the faults common to hd2 stock roms to a greater or lesser degree. You just seem unlucky enough to have them all.
It also bears the hallmarks of a bad flash, i'd be tempted to task 29 and reflash it. ( I had one myself just today, perfectly normal flash, did mtty and everything, and it was just clunky - menus taking ages to open, screens taking ages to close, etc.
I wiped it and flashed again, and problems gone.)
Sometimes it can just happen like that, same with PC's, sometimes the instal just doesnt take.

get it back
really take it back to where you bought it, your problems are not software related, it is still in warranty right ?

i cant risk flasshing it to a cooked rom due to it voiding the warranty (i know it 99% of the time doesnt but i dont want to take the risk)
as for the not taking right, i thought that aswell
im on my 10th hard reset easily, and its the same all the time
its been like it from day one, if i didnt like the phone so much it would have gone back to voda within 24hours
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really take it back to where you bought it, your problems are not software related, it is still in warranty right ?
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its still under htc warranty, aswell as vodafone insurance
im covered up the ying yang, just their idea of a fix is to reflash it and send it back a week later even though its reflasshed with the same as what i sent it in with and have reflasshed with myself

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be a shame to drop it, so requiring a warranty replacerment rather than a fix...
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Sense is just horrible. It simply does not function on the HD2. The phone isn't worth anything without a custom rom. Unfortunately most peoples ROMs are butt ugly kid ****.
If your looking for a functional phone that is going to work with some degree of reliability you should get rid of your HD2. Its not really for adults or anyone who has to accomplish stuff with a personal data assistant. You will spend more time reseting than actually reading a text message or being productive with this device. Its that simple. HTC cant program their way out of a wet paper bag.
Like you said, the phone will work for about ten minutes before all the whack programming has the system in knots.
It reminds me of those bootleg Ipods that you see in gas stations for like 35 bucks.

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i was thinking more of a wood chipper......
well since i made this topic ive had to softreset 3 times and had services.exe crash over 10times
everyone i know that have had htcs have all comented on the interfaces being poor
i bought the hd2 because i didnt want to join the hordes of people willing to blow steve jobs for an apple sticker
but ill give the iphone its dues for working as a phone atleast!

If its that bad why buy it, the rest of us seem to be having a damn good time with this phone, most phones are crap from a store they have all there software on it, you're on voda uk there one of the worst for it, ( i dont no if you have any on there)
the HD2 is all about tweaking and testing with custom ROM's i can assure you with a custom ROM you will be much happier the thing is nothing stock, yes i no all to well it should be awesome out the box but its not so what you gonna do about it lol, you can always put the stock ROM back on and take it back, and it wont void your warranty,
@Topofnewyork i just looked at your posts i thought i recognised the name near enough everyone of your comments is *****ing about this phone, if its that bad why you still here??
I dont see how anybody would have a WM device and have it stock

Yup, I will never buy HTC again, Im done I actully despise the company now. Its gotten that bad. The device cant remain stable at 40% capacity. The idea that it cant function with 60% of its resources free is like a total and utter failure. What is the point of this device? It cant use any of its hardware?
I hate Apple fan boys too but the bottomline is we need devices that have some level of reliable functionality. This thing gets worse every single day. Every day a new problem every day its a little slower every day its more and more ****ed up. Takes about 5 minutes to boot up to and when you are reseting ten times a day thats like an hour of my life each day just on resets. Real people with real jobs dont have time for toy devices, that cant even handle an incoming sms let alone multiple sms messages forget it the phone goes completely bonkers. Cant play music, cant play video and music in synch.
I hate the HD2. Like I cant express it enough how much I despise this device. Im ready to throw it out the window. I cant stand it anymore.
I have insurance, im sure I can get a warranty claim but even the process of having to go through that has me ready to lash out and slice the neck of the next person who sees me taking the batter cover off to reset bc the phones slider simply will not work. I cant believe they managed to mess this device up as bad as they have. I dont understand why people do reviews all they do is slide the slider tab and then presto chango, its a great device look how fast it is....test the thing by making calls bombarding it with emails and texts, and actually using it as it was 'designed' and watch the thing crash and burn. Its garbage. HTC is chinese garbage.
@demon_man I wont hikjack the threads anymore just gonna do the walk of shame through the warranty process and go back to AT&T or Verizon, the only saving grace is that I am not under any contract so I can ditch phones no problem. I usually make good choices and I am happy with each device for a year at least. I really cant believe I let HTC get me this bad on this device. I was wrong about everything with this device.

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Sense is just horrible. It simply does not function on the HD2. The phone isn't worth anything without a custom rom. Unfortunately most peoples ROMs are butt ugly kid ****.
If your looking for a functional phone that is going to work with some degree of reliability you should get rid of your HD2. Its not really for adults or anyone who has to accomplish stuff with a personal data assistant. You will spend more time reseting than actually reading a text message or being productive with this device. Its that simple. HTC cant program their way out of a wet paper bag.
Like you said, the phone will work for about ten minutes before all the whack programming has the system in knots.
It reminds me of those bootleg Ipods that you see in gas stations for like 35 bucks.
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Man HD2 kicks rear ends!

Yea, maybe in Spainish high school students. I have a feeling I expect way more from a device with this much fire power than you do. Either that or you are someone who has all the time in the world to tweak this device. I love working on my car too but I just dont have the time required to troubleshoot and go through all the permutations. At its price point and superior specifications (to almost any phone currently available), this device requires way to much maintenance for busy american professionals who take **** seriously and dont have time to quibble with a slider. Your playing with a toy I am trying to conduct business w a half cooked device.

With all those problems surely its a faulty phone. Ive just flashed the new 172 Rom but the way your describing your phone is nothing like mine. Mines faster smoother and dosent have any of the faults your describing and I use the phone a lot!
Im really confused by this thread. How can your phone be so crap?
RReckless

yesterday it locked up 6 times and all i used it for was sending the odd txt message
i got it before their was news about the os faults, voda said it would be updated soon and everything would be fixed
the return time passed and their lies became obvious
on 1.66 i had 10 apps added and it worked okish
now on 1.72 with nothing but what it came with and it can barely unlock itself without crashing
will try reflashing it tomoz, also im getting shocking battery times on 1.72
yesterday it was on charge over night 8am to 10am and it was down to 35% battery, i had to go home on my lunch break to get my charger!

cba360 said:
i was thinking more of a wood chipper......!
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i LOL'd so hard i nearly fell off my chair!
sounds like a dud unit to me! send it back and make a stink of it too, you'll get a better deal
sorry to hear about your troubles, i had the tmob uk 1.43 rom, it had pretty much all the problems everyones been describing, then i flashed the updated tmob uk 1.72 rom and 90% of the issues have dissappeared. sometimes the bluetooth goes bonkers, and sometimes it'll take me to a random text message rather than the one i just recieved
imo it just needs to mature abit, perhaps in the near future you'll return to a HTC device?

i must admit when i read these threads re how bad someone is finding the HD2 i wonder why they are having such a problem?? the only answer i see is that they have a faulty phone as opposed to the HD2 being a bad phone.
i have had mine since the end of dec 2009 and its the best phone i have had so far. last phone was a i900 and before the HD2 i thought that was great too.
films run great (got avatar on there at the mo) books are read easily (cheers fredabooks), music plays well and the album interface works perfectly.
gps is excellent! i use copilot for road use and memory map for off road use.
i have a few games on there and they all seem to work excellently.
the only thing i havent got working properly is the ps1 emulator and that is probably me lol.
Mike

Hi,
apart of really broken devices (hardware) I guess most of the users reporting instability, freeze etc have a lot of creepy software and tweeks installed. Sometimes freeware sometimes payware. So before bashing the phone one should try it with a Stock ROM for some days without any tweaks. If the phone is still not stable there is a hardware issue so bring it back and get a new one.
bye
Sven

I used the UK Vodafone stock ROM for months, and was entirely dissapointed with the phone and wanted to sell it. When barely using the device during the day at work, the battery would drain by sometimes 60%, all the other bugs you mentioned, especially slowness when typing texts was AWFUL.
So one day, I took the courage (and took away the warranty), and put a cooked rom on it. I haven't looked back. All functionality works, all text messages now send (and are speedy to type) and my battery (even with the phone being used and WIFI'd) will last between 2 and 3 days. Even charging via usb is much quicker.
If you don't mind losing your warranty, go for a cooked rom, read up and DO IT, I'm a very happy chappy now.

Sven424 said:
Hi,
apart of really broken devices (hardware) I guess most of the users reporting instability, freeze etc have a lot of creepy software and tweeks installed. Sometimes freeware sometimes payware. So before bashing the phone one should try it with a Stock ROM for some days without any tweaks. If the phone is still not stable there is a hardware issue so bring it back and get a new one.
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Sven
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stock original rom = problems
1.66 stock rom no apps = problems
1.72 stock rom no apps = problems
in my experience hd2=problems
i can see how it would be a really good phone...just wish mine worked!
dont wanna use a cooked rom as it should work from day one
ill see what voda can sort out, may end up with an iphone unless i can get nexus

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Its garbage. HTC is chinese garbage.
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LOL. As opposed to?
I was following you until this point, then you just reeked of ignorance.

[Q] I'm thinking my phone's hardware is bad. Asking for opinions.

Edit: Problem might be solved, thanks to kennyglass123.
I never thought that my battery could be the problem, since I got a replacement phone, but I had forgotten the battery was transferred from the original, malfunctioning phone. I'll be trying this solution as soon as I get paid.
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For starters, I've had the Epic since it was originally released. I'm on my second Epic, as the first one needed to be replaced after the speakerphone speaker went out. (I hardly even used it outside a moderate ringtone.)
Here's my issue with both:
Every time the phone get's warm to the touch, while I'm in a warm environment, and I'm using the phone heavily, everything starts to force close like crazy. This includes completely bone-stock ROMs, and I definitely don't overclock, as I'm having issues already. This has happened to me on Froyo and Gingerbread, leaked, official, and custom ROMs, to include RFS/EXT4, and journaling on or off. This has happened to me 5-10+ times over the course of a year.
Every time it happens, my first instinct, after having to pull the battery, since so much is crashing, I go straight into CWM and I wipe dalvik cache or even cache/dalvik. Sometimes, I'll even wipe completely and reload everything from ground up, to include not recovering with Titanium and downloading every app one by one.
No matter how stable I get any ROM working on my phone, this problem occurs when I'm in a warm environment (server room, restaurant kitchen, or summer day), and I'm using the phone very heavily (heavy multitasking, installing lots of apps in market, etc).
Is this me being way too demanding on an older phone, or is this my hardware needing to be replaced? I'm curious, because I would have already gotten a faster phone to suit my needs, but I just now found a better job, and I haven't had extra spending money to throw down another $700; not to mention, I can renew my contract Jan 1, 2012.
Out of all the random issues I've had with all the different ROMs, especially leaks, this problem seems to be very consistent in the conditions I stated, across all ROMs. When I reload my phone from Odin to CWM flashing, now, I do it very slowly, in a cold room, with cool air being blown over it from a fan. I then slowly reload all 40+ apps from the market, one by one, and it takes forever.. every time. I hope some of you can imagine how frustrating this is, being I paid the $650 out of contract price for a top-of-the-line phone, and I've had issues like this over the past year. My phone organizes my whole life, including a full-time job, a part-time job, full-time school, my social life, and everything else. I can't have it crap out on me every time I need it most; and, it does.
Is this my Epic, or is this just all of them? I'd like to not think so, since I see so many people running them overclocked. I really hope I'm not just going crazy.
Thanks in advance for any constructive input in my situation. I'm not sure if it's because I'm at school, but my searches weren't pulling up any results at all.

If it's happening consistently with different ROMs, I would say it is a problem with your hardware. I have an annoying issue with my phone, 'Stay Awake' in Development doesn't keep. Such a minor annoyance compared to what you have to deal with.
If you can document it, you have a case for a replacement phone. But then, your contract renews in two months.....

Have you tried other batteries? I say definitely hardware given the info you provided. It may be a flaky battery causing some intermittance then the FCs. Although that shouldn't happen on completely stock RFS. So probably phone memory is bad.

I'll be trying this possible solution.
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Have you tried other batteries? I say definitely hardware given the info you provided. It may be a flaky battery causing some intermittance then the FCs. Although that shouldn't happen on completely stock RFS. So probably phone memory is bad.
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You know, when I got my replacement phone, the original battery and cover were moved over to it. I can't believe I never thought to buy a different battery.
I've been wanting to try the suggestion I read about a new Epic Touch battery which is slightly higher capacity, and it still works great. I'll be sure to read up on exactly which one it was before I purchase.
Either way, I suppose it's going to be try a new battery and cross my fingers for two months, because I know how fun the local Sprint store always is. Thanks for the input.

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If it's happening consistently with different ROMs, I would say it is a problem with your hardware. I have an annoying issue with my phone, 'Stay Awake' in Development doesn't keep. Such a minor annoyance compared to what you have to deal with.
If you can document it, you have a case for a replacement phone. But then, your contract renews in two months.....
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The stay awake when charging not working was changed back in one of the first Gingerbread releases, if I recall correctly. It's unfortunate, because it bugs me too, but that was something I thought Samsung did on purpose in the newer ROMs.

Does anybody have this issue on their tablets?

Hi does anybody reading this have the similar issue? If so do you know the solution or how to fix this issue?
1. Adobe Flash. A small little issue I've been also having that Adobe flash on my Android gives me issues, when I play a video on the browser it usually takes a couple of seconds for the video to show, sometimes it doesn't so I have to reload the page
2. Ever since I've flashed and rooted my device, on the screen I've been getting a little bit of this wavy thing at the bottom of my screen, almost as if it's loosing power down at the bottom of the screen....If that makes sense.
If you know a solution or is facing this problem, please let me know. Or post the solution?
It'll be a great big help! Thanks and thanks for your time! Much appreciate!

my opinion is:
the flash player, it playing streaming software player flash.....it may lag just a little but its not that big a deal is it really?
the wavy lines, i would say look into of a its a defective tab and if you have receipt take it back for a replacement

i wouldnt say defective tab, have had mine for a year, and after flashing over to tabonney's ICS i get an odd flicker too, as for flash, its trying to render what computers play, with just much less hardware resources to use. Its slow and thats the way its going to be.

My video issues aren't like yours Mkami... But if I might suggest making a full backup, then reflash your rom. Maybe you'll get lucky and the issue will go away.
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i wouldnt say defective tab, have had mine for a year, and after flashing over to tabonney's ICS i get an odd flicker too,
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You know, I've been waiting on someone to mention the odd flicker. Does your tab do it when either, a 3d game or app is running, or maybe on a home screen that has an email widget? And does the tablet seem to still be reacting normally to touch input other than the fact that the screen doesn't show any change? I am thinking about sending my tab in over this for warranty work. I got mine over a year ago too. Sure am glad I paid with plastic, got an extra year warranty for doing it. I just wonder what they are gonna say about the bent corner where it hit the pavement...

JdgM3NT4L said:
My video issues aren't like yours Mkami... But if I might suggest making a full backup, then reflash your rom. Maybe you'll get lucky and the issue will go away.
You know, I've been waiting on someone to mention the odd flicker. Does your tab do it when either, a 3d game or app is running, or maybe on a home screen that has an email widget? And does the tablet seem to still be reacting normally to touch input other than the fact that the screen doesn't show any change? I am thinking about sending my tab in over this for warranty work. I got mine over a year ago too. Sure am glad I paid with plastic, got an extra year warranty for doing it. I just wonder what they are gonna say about the bent corner where it hit the pavement...
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oh flickering? i think thats a ics problem as most of the ics based roms have the flickering plus stock,. but the guy said he had wavy lines at the bottom of the screen. never heard of that before.

chismay said:
oh flickering? i think thats a ics problem as most of the ics based roms have the flickering plus stock,. but the guy said he had wavy lines at the bottom of the screen. never heard of that before.
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With pached bootloader and any rom on this site and stock I got
screen flicker, very poor battery, not so smooth scrolling and host of other gliches. (all compared to ota). Flashed back to stock ota and not looked back. No problems. It seemed to me that the problems are not in the roms because stock had the same problems, it the act of changing the bootloader. Just what I have seen, try it just to get rid of the screen problem, go to ota stock no mods and it will be gone.

shaun298 said:
With pached bootloader and any rom on this site and stock I got
screen flicker, very poor battery, not so smooth scrolling and host of other gliches. (all compared to ota). Flashed back to stock ota and not looked back. No problems. It seemed to me that the problems are not in the roms because stock had the same problems, it the act of changing the bootloader. Just what I have seen, try it just to get rid of the screen problem, go to ota stock no mods and it will be gone.
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You know, that's kind of what I've been thinking. I've been testing by going back and forth between bootloaders. So far that is the best explaination. I'll likely go back to stock again soon. But it seems like I remember it doing it at least once on the stock bl...

When I first updated to ICS, all was well. Within a couple weeks, Flash video got laggy, the browsers got laggy, and I got the occasional screen flickers. I backed everything up and did a hard reset and it's been great ever since.
I haven't heard a really good explanation for all this, but a good theory is leftover files remaining on the system, or possibly file fragments, are interfering with the OS. A hard reset purges the old crap out... regardless of the explanation, it's known to fix these problems.

sRDennyCrane said:
A hard reset purges the old crap out... regardless of the explanation, it's known to fix these problems.
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Awesome, glad that you were able to get to normal. It didn't help me tho... I might start a different thread for this if it keeps up. I don't want to hijack Mkami's thread with a different problem. Thank you for the help.

Hey everyone thanks for the advices and different problems you guys are facing.
Sorry for my poor explanation... When I mean screen "wave" what I really meant is screen flicker
I found a semi cure for this...Though I don't know about other peoples tablets, all I did was raise the brightness of the screen and the flicker seemed to not show, I must say though that flicker doesn't really much bother me as it does with the flash, but I guess I have to live with it, just a heads up, my tab isn't defective. Truthfully when I do go to stock ROM everything on the device including the flicker goes away, it's only when I flash my device that I notice that, but I am pretty sure there might be a solution for that one or another, because a buddy of mine has the same tablet, which is why I got that a500. I love it and I love android way much more than any other.
Anyways, I hope Flexreaper releases a new rom soon, really am excited with anticipation. Can't wait to see what he has in store for us.
I am going to try that hard reset and fully restoring the device after a nandroid backup and test and reflash and check if anything works with a good
result I shall post up the steps and how to fix this little issue.
I thank you all! Please post if anybody else has this issue or solution down! Much appreciated! Thanks! :laugh:

[Q] Nexus 4 Random Power Off

As the title states. Nexus 4 random power offs. Has anyone seen anything like this?
Here is the background info:
My parents have Nexus 4 phones as do I. All of our phones were ordered at the same time about 2 months or so ago when they became available again. All phones are the 16GB version. All phones bone stock with just OTA updates, not unlocked or rooted other than how they are shipped. All using T-Mobile prepaid plans.
My phone and my father's seem fine. My mom's however seems to shutdown on its own. It is random. Initially I thought that it may be an issue where she isn't used to a smart phone and isn't charging it enough. It happens though at times while it is connected to the charger. It also has happened while carrying it off the charger.
One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
I have been around android since the G1 days and run the same phone. I can't think of a setting on the phone that would power it down at a certain time or period of time. She really doesn't have much for apps and is a very light user.
Not sure what to try but I was thinking about doing a wipe of the phone to see if it helps.
Anyone else have any ideas? If the wipe doesn't help the only other thing I can think of is that there is a physical issue with the phone.
I haven't seen this on my phone but there was a period of time where HD Widgets on my N7 would cause a reboot. That was fixed with an app update. This isn't a case where the device reboots. It is a complete shutdown which I find odd. So I have seen an app cause issues kind of like this. For the most part the apps that she has on her phone, I also have on mine. Well I have way more but there really isn't anything on her phone that I am not also running.
I should add that she has the phone in a TPU case. As we all do. My case design is a little different than theirs but they have cutouts for the buttons. So it isn't a case where the case is pressing on the power button. That could be an issue with my case as it covers the power button but I haven't had that issue.
Thanks

Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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BigDig said:
Sounds like it might be a defective battery...
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That is what I am kind of thinking. Either the battery or the smart battery chips. I think I will try a wipe first but like I said but it is odd.

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One odd thing is that when they got the phone they brought them to my house and dropped them off to have me set them up. One had the plastic screen protector with the printing on it from the factory the other didn't. I don't know which is which though now. It is a 50/50 shot if this is the one.
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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.

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She is a very basic user and this is the first smartphone for my father and mother. Keep in mind they are in their early 70s and not really that strong on the tech side of things.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:

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That sounds kind of questionable (fishy) to me... I also have the 16GB version, and I also did the OTA when I got it. But to be honest the stock OS lasted only about an hour before I rooted and started trying out custom ROMs I have not had the issue you're describing though. How are the results from your factory reset?
Also, would you consider putting on a stock-based custom ROM (such as rasbean vanilla) for your mother's phone? If the problem is software based then a reset or a new ROM might yield different results. But if the problem persists it might be hardware and I'd suggest you contact Google about servicing.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm giving my parents my old LG P990 phone and I just put an AOKP rom on it. I also installed Nova Launcher for them and configured it so there's just one texting app and one calling app the one and only one homescreen. No dock either, just in case they click something by accident or get lost in the app drawer
Since you have the same phone as your mom, a self-less workaround would just be to give her yours (pre-configured), and then you can fiddle around with the problematic one until you find a decent solution. :good:
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Hmm. That is a good idea. The PITA part would be to get everything loaded from my phone to hers. I really wish I could run Titanium backup without root as it would make it super easy to move the apps over. Though I don't have that much loaded on my phone. Things that are a pain to set up have configuration export methods like Tasker. It would rule out the end user being the source of the issue. I don't think that is it though. If we swap and it goes away, then I can consider the wipe as the solution. If the problem moves to me then it is a physical issue and call Google. If the problem persists with her, I load all her apps on the phone I carry as well to see if I start to have the issue or it becomes a training issue. The thing I like about this the most is that it is a clear process to rule out several things. I can go over there and sit with the phone but if it doesn't power off when I am there I don't gain much other than spending some time with my parents.
I don't think this is an issue but I did have to provide my IMEI# when doing the activations. In the past though on T-Mobile I have handed phones down to others and all we did was a SIM swap. I would imagine that is the case here.
Oh and one thing I did leave out. They were using their old cell phone chargers on the N4 phones. I told them to swap chargers and use the ones that came with the phone. The old ones may not put out enough power and the phone could in theory run down to the point where it shuts off and slowly charge from that point and I don't think it would turn back on. Keep in mind a retired user who just had a knee replacement so she is at home more often than not.

Did you find out the cause? I have the same issue happened twice today

The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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The random shut off either charging or not happens to me but as mentioned before in a related thread, a lot of the times it also happens on Wi-Fi, and having WiFi optimization on.. purple were turning that off and some fixed the issues. This is my second nexus 4, so I right id give it a try and not use wifi and hasn't happen since I received mines on the 4th of may
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So you're saying it's a software issue?

Looks like it.. Turning off optimization or not even using WiFi at all worked..
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Touch screen sensitivity issue still in 38R

I wonder if anyone is also experiencing sensitivity issues with the new 38R OTA.
In my case It is evident when scrolling (homescreen, twitter, whatsapp....) and typing. Also the capacitive buttons seem a bit unresponsive from time to time.
What about you guys?
Edit: here you have the prove (bad scrolling and multitouch problem) i think i am going to RMA
Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
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Suddenly the issue has been gone for a week, no problems at all since 15 October... I am so confused
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The sensibility issue is back on 24/10/2014 without changing anything

QuBeX said:
I wonder if anyone is also experiencing sensitivity issues with the new 38R OTA.
In my case It is evident when scrolling (homescreen, twitter, whatsapp....) and typing. Also the capacitive buttons seem a bit unresponsive from time to time.
What about you guys?
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Yes, I also still have troubles with it. I especially notice it when typing.

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Yes, I also still have troubles with it. I especially notice it when typing.
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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time

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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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I am really not sure... the last couple days I was on 33R CM11S with AK kernel and did not notice the problem at all. But it is not something that happens often in my case. So it is possible that I just did not wait long enough for it to appear.
I will stay on stock cm11s 38R for a few more days and then probably switch back to AK kernel to see if my previous experience is reproducible.
Did you even try to use a different kernel? Did you still have the issue?

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I am really not sure... the last couple days I was on 33R CM11S with AK kernel and did not notice the problem at all. But it is not something that happens often in my case. So it is possible that I just did not wait long enough for it to appear.
I will stay on stock cm11s 38R for a few more days and then probably switch back to AK kernel to see if my previous experience is reproducible.
Did you even try to use a different kernel? Did you still have the issue?
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Just flashed AK, It seems that the unresponsiveness is still there
I am really dissapointed, i though this OTA would solve sensitivity problem...

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Just flashed AK, It seems that the unresponsiveness is still there
I am really dissapointed, i though this OTA would solve sensitivity problem...
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Sorry to hear it did not help.
I have also just noticed this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195972&postcount=62 which suggests macgyvering an improved grounding for the phone. I have to admit that I don't understand exactly what to do. But it might become clearer if I get frustrated enough to actually open up the phone
Please let me know if you try it and it works.

Touch screen is still going to be an issue. You can check the original bug which was reported here (still says in progress) https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/BACON-55

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Sorry to hear it did not help.
I have also just noticed this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195972&postcount=62 which suggests macgyvering an improved grounding for the phone. I have to admit that I don't understand exactly what to do. But it might become clearer if I get frustrated enough to actually open up the phone
Please let me know if you try it and it works.
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It could work but i don't want to touch inside the phone very much, I don't want to void my warranty. I think I will RMA with this video I just made. Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src

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It could work but i don't want to touch inside the phone very much, I don't want to void my warranty. I think I will RMA with this video I just made. Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
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You should just know that OPO's customer service while polite, will give you the run around a while. Took me about a month before they finally granted the RMA.

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You should just know that OPO's customer service while polite, will give you the run around a while. Took me about a month before they finally granted the RMA.
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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.

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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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Not sure since I just requested a new phone.

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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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They will, at least, replace your phone. I did and am waiting for my new one to arrive. If multitouch issues remain (and most likely will) i'll ask for a refund. I don't really care if the phone is "cheap for specs", this flaw is unacceptable.
My S3 is much worse hardware wise and feels SO much better while typing or anything else touch related. I did have to open a ticket and later show up a few videos of multitouch malfunctioning to oneplus. They decided it was a malfunctioning unit and i was eligible for a replacement. They never mentioned bacon 55 or a "known issue" common to every phone that would be solved at some point later on.
It's taking forever too. It's been over a month and it's mainly their fault because they take so long to reply to every single email. They did ask my VAT number before hand so they could send an invoice with it to my customs that would facilitate the returning process. Despite that, my phone got stuck on my country's customs precisely because they sent them an invoice without it and was up to me to ask it to oneplus. I waited about a week for what seems an poorly excel made document (compared to my country's invoices this is a joke of a document ). I sent it to the courier who picked up and they forwarded it to customs. Stuff went smooth from that point on. Oh yea, i'm from Portugal and even though my phone was sent to me from the UK the first time, to return a phone, you're going to send it to Hong Kong. All free of charge. I did have to print loads of pre made documents (about 10 pages?), because apparently sending anything with a battery is a big deal safety wise.
Even though they are, like someone said, polite, they do take a good while to reply to anything and aren't very keen to answer to anything that falls a bit out of their "process". For example, I've asked them several times if they would send me a new phone before or after a return mine. They never really cared enough to answer. Their English also seems translated by google sometimes. Several different people may take care of the same case. I've had about 5 or 6 different names reply to me and they all just use their first name like "Wilona". It made me stop to think i was sending my already paid phone to some place across the world because this randomly named guy told me so by email - in any other different scenario this would scream of a scam. But I've placed my RMA through an official ticket on their website, they actually made a new order request from their store on their website, they use very well known couriers with tracking numbers and it's the only way i'm ever getting a chance of having a properly working phone.
I did warn them before sending my "faulty" unit back they can expect me asking for a full refund if this new one isn't working any better.

I have been on liquidsmooth rom since I got the phone, no problems with touchscreen whatsoever, Installed new 38 CMS today and started to experience that problem. Also, cms lags compare to AOSP, this is pretty weird

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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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Flashing ColorOS for me gave a much better touchscreen experience, things worked flawlessly in all apps for me(Amazon is my biggest issue, any scrolling over a description/review would select it and move you to that section to read it, does not happen at all in ColorOS), so im thinking its software

This issue is so exaggerated...
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What is the touchscreen issue that people are referring to? Mine seems perfect? The only issue is the slight yellow at the bottom but you only notice it if you actually go looking for it.

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This issue is so exaggerated...
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Not really. It's bothersome.
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Mines slightly yellow at the bottom, appears to be getting a bit better though, unless thats just my eyes playing tricks on me. I haven't noticed touchscreen issues except i can't seem to press the spacebar properly

My touchscreen seems to be very picky as to where I touch. Sometimes it takes a few attempts. Since 38 I have had random reboots. I m stock rooted without anything else flashed.

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This issue is so exaggerated...
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If you can say that you're a lucky one. It can render your phone completely unusable. Imagine your phone randomly assuming touches when you're not even touching it, non stop (stuff opening, key input, etc). You can't do anything else while it happens and the only way to stop is by rebooting. 5 to 10 times a day, everyday. Also, just about anything multitouch like simply zooming on a webpage has a 50% chance of working or send your phone spazing on a zooming in/out frenzy. So I'd say it isn't exaggerating, you just aren't experiencing the worse of it.

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