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Hello, I want to root the Sprint S4 without unlocking it and still be able to receive OTA updates. Is this possible? I can do it on an ASUS table I have.
What do you mean without unlocking? And if you are asking if you can root your S4 with your Asus tablet you don't need anything but your phone. Just download Mobile Odin and use it to root.
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yes you can root and still get ota no problem. just don't install a custom recovery or modify any system apps.
not sure why anyone would want this however.
jj4201998 said:
Hello, I want to root the Sprint S4 without unlocking it and still be able to receive OTA updates. Is this possible? I can do it on an ASUS table I have.
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The Sprint GS4 doesn't have a locked bootloader, if that's what's you're referring to. No unlocking needed.
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maxpower7 said:
The Sprint GS4 doesn't have a locked bootloader, if that's what's you're referring to. No unlocking needed.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda premium
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I just want to be able to Root my phone and still receive my OTAs from sprint. Is this possible?
When you say modify system apps are you referring to removing any apps that came with the phone?
lafester said:
yes you can root and still get ota no problem. just don't install a custom recovery or modify any system apps.
not sure why anyone would want this however.
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When you say modify system apps are you referring to removing any apps that came with the phone?
Basically yes. Also when you take an ota you will need to root again.
Honestly otas are the worst possible way to update your phone.
lafester said:
Basically yes. Also when you take an ota you will need to root again.
Honestly otas are the worst possible way to update your phone.
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The reason I am looking into this is because my S3 is 32gb and the S4 is only 16gb. I always like the ability to use the OTAs and then use Voodo to restore root. If I go the full root, what roms do you recommend? I always like to keep it stock with the ability to do whatever I want.
jj4201998 said:
The reason I am looking into this is because my S3 is 32gb and the S4 is only 16gb. I always like the ability to use the OTAs and then use Voodo to restore root. If I go the full root, what roms do you recommend? I always like to keep it stock with the ability to do whatever I want.
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I run stock as well at least lately.
Just root with cf auto root and then use goo manager to load twrp recovery. When new updates are released someone always posts a rooted version rather quickly. Flash that in recovery and use odin to update modem (and bootloader if necessary).
Custom roms would follow pretty much the same procedure no need to limit yourself to stock if you want to try them out. You can odin back to 100% bone stock unrooted at any time if you want to. I think you are confusing the s3/s4 with the asus transformer where you can't go back once you run custom and unlock. that is not the case here at all.
This is a thread to see if anyone has ideas on Unlocking the Bootloader & porting/creating CWM or TWRP to our device? Any ideas are helpful and welcomed.
krazie1 said:
This is a thread to see if anyone has ideas on porting CWM or TWRP to our device? Any ideas of getting a custom recovery on this phone is welcomed. We have Root for the At&t/Verizon variants, custom recovery would be topping to the cake.
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Dont we need an unlocked bootloader first?
chrisexv6 said:
Dont we need an unlocked bootloader first?
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I'm not to sure, I know you need the bootloader unlocked for Roms and Kernels
EDIT: I thought about it and your right, you always have to unlock the bootloader before you install the Custom Recovery.
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I'm not to sure, I know you need the bootloader unlocked for Roms and Kernels
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Are you sure the bootloader needs to be unlocked in order to install roms?? Thought that was only for custom kernels. Moto devices have always had pretty locked down devices, yet had recoveries and ability to install roms, if I remember correctly...
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Are you sure the bootloader needs to be unlocked in order to install roms?? Thought that was only for custom kernels. Moto devices have always had pretty locked down devices, yet had recoveries and ability to install roms, if I remember correctly...
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...oader-custom-recovery-root-flashing-roms.html
Why should I unlock?
The explanation to this question is really simple. If you want root, you’d be wanting to flash Custom ROM post-root, and if you want to install a Custom ROM, you’d need to have your stock bootloader unlocked. In simple terms Unlocking the bootloader allows you to install custom Firmware on your Android phone
Warning: Unlocking your phone’s bootloader voids its warranty. It also completely wipes (formats) your Android phone’s internal memory including applications, contacts, SMS and MMS messages etc.
dmbfan13 said:
Are you sure the bootloader needs to be unlocked in order to install roms?? Thought that was only for custom kernels. Moto devices have always had pretty locked down devices, yet had recoveries and ability to install roms, if I remember correctly...
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kexec is required to flash a kernel.
Safestrap is a way to flash somewhat custom ROMs (without kexec you need to use stock kernel) without recovery installed but it needs to be adapted to each specific phone. Right now I think they are working on a version that will work with the S4, not sure how attractive the G2 is (or will be).
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This is a thread to see if anyone has ideas on Unlocking the Bootloader & porting/creating CWM or TWRP to our device? Any ideas are helpful and welcomed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2443165 <---- these guys are the ones who worked most of the magic for Optimus G (and Pro?).
You guys first need Root to do anything (which i believe you have). Then you need a Custom Recovery. Installing a Custom Recovery can be accomplished via a workaround or by unlocking the bootloader. A workaround like loki by djrbliss on the Galaxy S4 which isn't an unlock but more so a bypass or like Safestrap by Hashcode.
Here is the man djrbliss.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358871
https://twitter.com/djrbliss
Is there any news on this? I cant even find a good place to look for info about this phone yet.
WACOMalt said:
Is there any news on this? I cant even find a good place to look for info about this phone yet.
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There was someone who posted an IRC room for the g2 but i can't find it and i don't recall who posted it.
Darkestred said:
There was someone who posted an IRC room for the g2 but i can't find it and i don't recall who posted it.
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what is the channel name? I wanna hop in there.
I just ripped my aboot.img from my system. Trying to figure out who to send that too for it to be of use.
WACOMalt said:
Is there any news on this? I cant even find a good place to look for info about this phone yet.
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WACOMalt said:
what is the channel name? I wanna hop in there.
I just ripped my aboot.img from my system. Trying to figure out who to send that too for it to be of use.
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I found it. server is chat.freenode.net room is lg-g2. Not very much going on in there at the moment.
i completely agree with the said explanation. but I'm having difficulties with my device i.e. LG G2 (D802).
I'm rooted with custom recovery TWRP and unable to install most of AOSP roms based on 4.4 KitKat. New Custom roms are coming up very frequently now for this device but so far I'm able to flash ParanoidAndroid Rom and modifited stock rom... Apart from this I always gets error while flashing the rom.
Most of the time Error comes up saying 'Status 7 Error' and 'unable to execute update binary'.
I did google on this subject and tried everything i found but the problem still exist.
I never had these problem flashing LG Stock or Android 4.3 based roms. Need advise on this subject. By the way any help on unlocking the bootloader????
thanks:good:
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...oader-custom-recovery-root-flashing-roms.html
Why should I unlock?
The explanation to this question is really simple. If you want root, you’d be wanting to flash Custom ROM post-root, and if you want to install a Custom ROM, you’d need to have your stock bootloader unlocked. In simple terms Unlocking the bootloader allows you to install custom Firmware on your Android phone
Warning: Unlocking your phone’s bootloader voids its warranty. It also completely wipes (formats) your Android phone’s internal memory including applications, contacts, SMS and MMS messages etc.
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Hey,
I'm thinking about putting a custom ROM on my handset, can anyone help me out and let me know the benefits of this and if it's really worth it?
Performance, customisation, more storage space
But generally at the expense of stability
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Performance, customisation, more storage space
But generally at the expense of stability
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Thanks for that,
If I did put a custom ROM on my S5, could I reset the device and it would go back to normal if I didn't like it?
Also in regards to the stability part, with the new update I have got on my S5 at the moment. The phone isn't what it used to be, they don't even display notifications on the phone without opening it.
Yea you can return to stock, but you can't do it by just resetting, you need to flash the stock ROM using ODIN, once you flash any ROM, resetting it will just reset that specific ROM, to change ROMs you need to flash the one you want
Factory resetting after updating from KK to LP is always recommended with stock, for the notifications, you have a load of lock screen settings you can look through, might find what you need in there - possibly in the security settings too, there are some that disable sensitive notifications when the phone is locked
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Yea you can return to stock, but you can't do it by just resetting, you need to flash the stock ROM using ODIN, once you flash any ROM, resetting it will just reset that specific ROM, to change ROMs you need to flash the one you want
Factory resetting after updating from KK to LP is always recommended with stock, for the notifications, you have a load of lock screen settings you can look through, might find what you need in there - possibly in the security settings too, there are some that disable sensitive notifications when the phone is locked
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Thanks for the help, I think I'll use a custome ROM. I've never actually used one since my days as an apple user. When I rooted my phone just to change the ringtone.
Is rooting on an android device relatively easy?
Or if anyone else has a good custom ROM I could use, I'm pretty new to this.....so something that isn't too stressful would be good!
jason-tech-uk said:
Or if anyone else has a good custom ROM I could use, I'm pretty new to this.....so something that isn't too stressful would be good!
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It's very easy. You can use CF Auto Root for whatever android version you have.
keep in mind that rooting voids your warranty and will trip KNOX flag which leads to that you can't update using official methods such as via kies or OTA.
Akalsemann said:
It's very easy. You can use CF Auto Root for whatever android version you have.
keep in mind that rooting voids your warranty and will trip KNOX flag which leads to that you can't update using official methods such as via kies or OTA.
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Thanks!
Where do I get CF Auto Root?
jason-tech-uk said:
Thanks!
Where do I get CF Auto Root?
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http://bfy.tw/GOg
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http://bfy.tw/GOg
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Hahahahaha
Sorry I should have actually looked myself.......
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Hahahahaha
Sorry I should have actually looked myself.......
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Couldn't resist
I have just done that to someone else as well, it felt gooooood!!
Thanks
I am very excited to see that the new Moto X is about to be rooted soon (apparently). I just want root for Adaway, Xposed, and a few other niceties. I have no wish to put a custom ROM on the Pure.
But I have a few basic questions (sorry if this seems noobish), what happens when Motorola sends updates to the phone? In particular, when it gets updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
- Would I need to unroot, install the update, and then root again?
- Would updating get rid of root, and would I need to wait for a new root procedure to be discovered?
- Is there some risk that I would need to re-install all my apps?
- Anything I need to worry about?
Thanks for info on this!
nibunnoichi said:
I am very excited to see that the new Moto X is about to be rooted soon (apparently). I just want root for Adaway, Xposed, and a few other niceties. I have no wish to put a custom ROM on the Pure.
But I have a few basic questions (sorry if this seems noobish), what happens when Motorola sends updates to the phone? In particular, when it gets updated to Android 6.0 Marshmallow.
- Would I need to unroot, install the update, and then root again?
- Would updating get rid of root, and would I need to wait for a new root procedure to be discovered?
- Is there some risk that I would need to re-install all my apps?
- Anything I need to worry about?
Thanks for info on this!
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Back to stock.
Flash Recovery
Flash SU.
It's an unlocked phone. You never lose root.
Or if you're going the whole hog -flash a custom ROM (stock or AOSP) and wait for the developer to promptly update the package
I assume with some patience updates will get posted here to flash. Stock rooted ROMs are pretty popular I think this will be no different.
tech_head said:
Back to stock.
Flash Recovery
Flash SU.
It's an unlocked phone. You never lose root.
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Your last comment is reassuring. I'm still learning when it comes to rooting; I had my friend root my Galaxy S3 years ago, but I'm gonna try to do it myself this time and learn the details of the process, and all that it entails (possible consequences, etc). Please bear with me.
Based on what I've read online (for example this article), it says OTA updates will break the root, but I can always re-root after the OTA and it's only a minor hassle (for phones with unlocked bootloader). Is that pretty much what you're saying as well?
So once Motorola rolls out the 6.0 Marshmallow update, would I need to re-unlock the bootloader (via this thread ) , and then re-flash recovery, etc?
At any point would I need to worry about losing any data on the phone?
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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I actually want motorola's features (Moto display, Moto actions, always-on voice recognition).
Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock Motorola rom? So once there is a 6.0 update, instead of OTAing, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead?
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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Some apps only work with root (like Batter Battery Stats, xposed). That's a good reason to just root without custom roms.
StreetkillnHD said:
I never seen the point of just rooting for apps and such i always rooted for custom roms but honestly if u want to stay with your stock rom and root it, with every update u need to flash that stock rom again.. Then update... Then reroot as some phone do loose root after updates..
Thats why i flash custom roms even custom stock roms all u gotta do is just flash the rom update and ur set
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The sole reason i root is to install an ad blocker.
emailrob said:
Some apps only work with root (like Batter Battery Stats, xposed). That's a good reason to just root without custom roms.
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Yup, for me Better Battery stats, Titanium Backup, the possibility of putting the back button on the bottom right instead of left, and activating double tap are all reasons to root the stock rom.
cronoc said:
Yup, for me Better Battery stats, Titanium Backup, the possibility of putting the back button on the bottom right instead of left, and activating double tap are all reasons to root the stock rom.
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Double tap is ROM specific isn't it? Or is there an xposed module? Its the one thing I miss from my OnePlus, despite the 'aware' sensors
Much of the stuff you people are trying to accomplish can be done with Nova Launcher. No root needed.
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
nibunnoichi said:
Your last comment is reassuring. I'm still learning when it comes to rooting; I had my friend root my Galaxy S3 years ago, but I'm gonna try to do it myself this time and learn the details of the process, and all that it entails (possible consequences, etc). Please bear with me.
Based on what I've read online (for example this article), it says OTA updates will break the root, but I can always re-root after the OTA and it's only a minor hassle (for phones with unlocked bootloader). Is that pretty much what you're saying as well?
So once Motorola rolls out the 6.0 Marshmallow update, would I need to re-unlock the bootloader (via this thread ) , and then re-flash recovery, etc?
At any point would I need to worry about losing any data on the phone?
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You'll never loose data (except for the first time you unlock the bootloader) unless you choose to wipe internal storage. So no worries mate.
tech_head said:
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
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Good to know. I'm curious to know if there's a simpler way to update. Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock rom and future stock roms? So once there is a 6.0 update for the Pure, instead of OTAing from Motorola, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead (1-step process)?
emailrob said:
Double tap is ROM specific isn't it? Or is there an xposed module? Its the one thing I miss from my OnePlus, despite the 'aware' sensors
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I honestly don't know. I'm coming from a Cyanogenmod-rom'd phone, so I'm just hoping I'll be able to get back some of these features...
nibunnoichi said:
Good to know. I'm curious to know if there's a simpler way to update. Is it possible that there is a flashable version of the stock rom and future stock roms? So once there is a 6.0 update for the Pure, instead of OTAing from Motorola, I can download a flashable version of it and just flash that instead (1-step process)?
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There might be but if u want simple flash a custom stock rom, im sure they will have a few, its basically stock rom but with tweaks and with a few stuff added. Then feom there just flash the updates for that rom. On my lg g3 i use to use a rom called cloudyg3 rom, it had everything stock rom had but a more tweaked version and such.
tech_head said:
If you flash back to stock.
Remove the custom recovery.
You can now take the OTA.
After you take the OTA.
Re-install TWRP
Flash SU.
I have done it on other unlocked devices.
The point being, an unlocked bootloader allows you to flash/install TWRP whenever you want.
Then you can regain root.
Unlocked bootloader means you can always regain root.
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I opened this thread hoping for a method to prevent taking the 6.0 OTA, because as I understand, from reading the Moto X PE TWRP thread, The only root method for 6.0 is systemless, which I think I want to stay away from, in hopes that 6.0 will get regular root, in the future. I think i would rather stay on LP, while waiting.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I am hesitant, because I'e been away from Moto rooting for a few years. I've been Samsung rooting, with TWRP and SafeStrap.
The stuff I'm reading here, about Minimal ADB, Fast boot folder and using cmd prompt is a bit daunting and I would like more time to continue reading and learning, before doing the deed.
ETA: I just realized that the OTA will come from Motorola, not Verizon. How does the OTA come>
Is there a Moto app, that I can disable, without root?
pizza_pablo said:
I opened this thread hoping for a method to prevent taking the 6.0 OTA, because as I understand, from reading the Moto X PE TWRP thread, The only root method for 6.0 is systemless, which I think I want to stay away from, in hopes that 6.0 will get regular root, in the future. I think i would rather stay on LP, while waiting.
My MXPE arrives Thursday! I would like to use it some, before having to root, but I am certain the 6.0 OTA update will be soon to show.
Is there a way to stop the OTA, prior to bootoader unock and root?
Do I just need to unlock/root/flash ROM right away?
I am hesitant, because I'e been away from Moto rooting for a few years. I've been Samsung rooting, with TWRP and SafeStrap.
The stuff I'm reading here, about Minimal ADB, Fast boot folder and using cmd prompt is a bit daunting and I would like more time to continue reading and learning, before doing the deed.
ETA: I just realized that the OTA will come from Motorola, not Verizon. How does the OTA come>
Is there a Moto app, that I can disable, without root?
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I am going to link to the answer I gave to you here...YMMV of course...:laugh:
Naddict said:
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I am going to link to the answer I gave to you here...YMMV of course...:laugh:
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I found it, and replied.
Hi, I'm a newcomer about modding.
I wanted to ask if is possible to root the zf2 (ze551ml) without hard resetting it.
I found this video, is it reliable? youtube[dot]com/watch?v=hkl15JIsAWY
Thanks
biondo_92 said:
Hi, I'm a newcomer about modding.
I wanted to ask if is possible to root the zf2 (ze551ml) without hard resetting it.
I found this video, is it reliable? youtube[dot]com/watch?v=hkl15JIsAWY
Thanks
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There are several root methods; I would suggest using the one click root method for your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61687944&postcount=4
As a precaution, I would download files directly from the owners post in XDA instead of following youtube links as they do alter the workings of your phone at a low level. You can find plenty of guides on the forum and rooting will not hard reset your phone.
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There are several root methods; I would suggest using the one click root method for your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61687944&postcount=4
As a precaution, I would download files directly from the owners post in XDA instead of following youtube links as they do alter the workings of your phone at a low level. You can find plenty of guides on the forum and rooting will not hard reset your phone.
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Ok i Will do that.
Few questions:
what do i risk doing that?
My warranty will be valid if i unroot?
Ota will work?
I want to do that for the bloatware and for stop the background processes i dont want (hi Facebook), there is anything else cool i can do with a rooted device?
Thank you!
Edit: i even want to remove the energy saver application, is there any problem if i do that?
biondo_92 said:
Ok i Will do that.
Few questions:
what do i risk doing that?
My warranty will be valid if i unroot?
Ota will work?
I want to do that for the bloatware and for stop the background processes i dont want (hi Facebook), there is anything else cool i can do with a rooted device?
Thank you!
Edit: i even want to remove the energy saver application, is there any problem if i do that?
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Your warranty should be valid unless you unlock the bootloader, and even then I saw a thread about relocking it.
For OTA, i always unroot before then reroot after to prevent any incompatibility problems but most users don't have a problem.
As for uses of root, look around on XDA there are plenty of uses.
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Your warranty should be valid unless you unlock the bootloader, and even then I saw a thread about relocking it.
For OTA, i always unroot before then reroot after to prevent any incompatibility problems but most users don't have a problem.
As for uses of root, look around on XDA there are plenty of uses.
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Thank you, i will do that. And what about the energy saver? Can i remove it in zf2?
Wait, why worry about OTA's unless you have a stock based rom, am I thinking right here?
Chocketbear said:
Wait, why worry about OTA's unless you have a stock based rom, am I thinking right here?
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Ive got the asus stock, i just want to get the root permissions
biondo_92 said:
Thank you, i will do that. And what about the energy saver? Can i remove it in zf2?
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energy mode you mean? its better have it in case you want update in the future (some missing apps can causes error when updating firmware)
Iqballoon said:
energy mode you mean? its better have it in case you want update in the future (some missing apps can causes error when updating firmware)
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Ok thank you all. Can you link here some thread with something you can do with root permissions?
http://rootmyandroid.org/things-to-do-after-rooting-android-smartphone.html/
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And if i ard reset, the root stays or i have to do it again?
Sorry for repost, since im going to play with cpu governors and other kernel stuff, is it possible to reset the kernel to factory settings? Just in case i do some damage, for go back to default settings
Doing a Hard Reset will remove your root so you need to startover and re-root again, if rooting alone satisfies you(eg: no custom rom, no xposed, no custom kernel) then you don't have to play with the kernel cause you need to unlock bootloader(hence you can always turn it back to default/factory settings thru relock)..
there are many ways to root, i recommend Tethered Recovery Method or One Click Root Method as if it is easy and fast, in my situation i use tethered recovery so i can flash xposed without unlocking bootloader. It's up to you what method would you prefer but beware if you did something wrong(Didn't follow the procedure correctly)with the process it may cause your device to brick.
Tapped from my Asus Zenfone 2 ZE551ML 4GB RAM (64GB)