Hello, I want to root the Sprint S4 without unlocking it and still be able to receive OTA updates. Is this possible? I can do it on an ASUS table I have.
What do you mean without unlocking? And if you are asking if you can root your S4 with your Asus tablet you don't need anything but your phone. Just download Mobile Odin and use it to root.
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yes you can root and still get ota no problem. just don't install a custom recovery or modify any system apps.
not sure why anyone would want this however.
jj4201998 said:
Hello, I want to root the Sprint S4 without unlocking it and still be able to receive OTA updates. Is this possible? I can do it on an ASUS table I have.
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The Sprint GS4 doesn't have a locked bootloader, if that's what's you're referring to. No unlocking needed.
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maxpower7 said:
The Sprint GS4 doesn't have a locked bootloader, if that's what's you're referring to. No unlocking needed.
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I just want to be able to Root my phone and still receive my OTAs from sprint. Is this possible?
When you say modify system apps are you referring to removing any apps that came with the phone?
lafester said:
yes you can root and still get ota no problem. just don't install a custom recovery or modify any system apps.
not sure why anyone would want this however.
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When you say modify system apps are you referring to removing any apps that came with the phone?
Basically yes. Also when you take an ota you will need to root again.
Honestly otas are the worst possible way to update your phone.
lafester said:
Basically yes. Also when you take an ota you will need to root again.
Honestly otas are the worst possible way to update your phone.
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The reason I am looking into this is because my S3 is 32gb and the S4 is only 16gb. I always like the ability to use the OTAs and then use Voodo to restore root. If I go the full root, what roms do you recommend? I always like to keep it stock with the ability to do whatever I want.
jj4201998 said:
The reason I am looking into this is because my S3 is 32gb and the S4 is only 16gb. I always like the ability to use the OTAs and then use Voodo to restore root. If I go the full root, what roms do you recommend? I always like to keep it stock with the ability to do whatever I want.
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I run stock as well at least lately.
Just root with cf auto root and then use goo manager to load twrp recovery. When new updates are released someone always posts a rooted version rather quickly. Flash that in recovery and use odin to update modem (and bootloader if necessary).
Custom roms would follow pretty much the same procedure no need to limit yourself to stock if you want to try them out. You can odin back to 100% bone stock unrooted at any time if you want to. I think you are confusing the s3/s4 with the asus transformer where you can't go back once you run custom and unlock. that is not the case here at all.
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Anyone knows if I can update to official 4.3 TW whenever it becomes available after rooting MF3?
Or would I have to unroot (which I think is not possible for now)?
I am pretty happy with TW 4.2 and would like to root it to use greenify and other root required apps, but not at the cost of losing
the ability to update to stock 4.3.
I'd imagine you could update but it would make you lose root.
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HiTideBlastoise said:
I'd imagine you could update but it would make you lose root.
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That would be fine with me as long as I can get to official 4.3 since I know sooner or later root would be achieved again,
and even if it could not, I'd rather have the update.
poncespr said:
That would be fine with me as long as I can get to official 4.3 since I know sooner or later root would be achieved again,
and even if it could not, I'd rather have the update.
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I don't think there's any guarantee about it, unfortunately. Sometimes you do have to unroot in order for the OTA to go through...and if there is still no possible way to unroot when the OTA comes around, you risk having that issue. I do wonder whether the temp unroot feature in Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would work on MF3 right now...maybe someone rooted on MF3 can test it and see if their device shows no root.
Anyways, I personally recommend everyone stay away from MF3 rooting...especially if you are not very aware of exactly what the consequences are. The fact that there is no unroot should be enough to keep most people away, but I think most don't even realize that fact.
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I don't think there's any guarantee about it, unfortunately. Sometimes you do have to unroot in order for the OTA to go through...and if there is still no possible way to unroot when the OTA comes around, you risk having that issue. I do wonder whether the temp unroot feature in Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper would work on MF3 right now...maybe someone rooted on MF3 can test it and see if their device shows no root.
Anyways, I personally recommend everyone stay away from MF3 rooting...especially if you are not very aware of exactly what the consequences are. The fact that there is no unroot should be enough to keep most people away, but I think most don't even realize that fact.
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That is exactly the reason why I have not rooted yet and thus the question just in case any one here knew for sure.
For now I will noot root and I may even switch to a Tmo or international S4 if I get the chance.
The way most updates are, if you have root then you'd have to unroot (flash stock or temp unroot) and if you've modified system files it won't go through, meaning MF3 root is risky if you want to still update until they put out firmware.
Could not resist all the bloatware, and not being able to use greenify and all the root requiring goodies. Soooo....:silly:
I rooted and removed bloatware, greenified, and very happy.
I guess sooner or later we will be able to install custom roms, including TW 4.3, even if it is not an official version.
Greetings XDA,
Recently my AT&T Galaxy S4 took the MF3 update without my permission.
Questions I have:
1. Is it possible to remove this update?
2. Is it possible to unroot the S4 with this update?
3. How limited does this update make my device?
it's also worth mentioning I've had issues with getting audio in basic phone calls.
p.s Thank you for reading and responding,
-Nightfrost-
Nightfrost95 said:
Greetings XDA,
1. Is it possible to remove this update?
2. Is it possible to unroot the S4 with this update?
3. How limited does this update make my device?
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1. No, as of right now, there is no way to downgrade from MF3
2. Unroot, I don't believe so. Root, yes. Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473747
3. Pretty limited, at least as far as custom ROMs go. You can only install TW based ROMs for right now. You can still do all the awesome stuff that a normal rooted phone can do, but if you screw something up, there's no way to flash a clean, stock version of TW without taking it to Best Buy and having them restore it.
Have you tried supersu and triangle away it. Supersu has the option to full unroot after you use triangle away.
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DO NOT USE TRIANGLE AWAY ON MF3.
I flashes a temporary recovery.
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I'm getting an update request to update my firmware. But before I go ahead and do that, I want to make sure updating won't make it harder for me to root and use custom roms in the future.
Is there a way to turn of the reminders? I'm getting daily reminders to update....
Thanks!
Note 3, verizon, unrooted.
I don't think there's a way to do it if you're stock. If it's the MJ7 update, you can still have root and install SafeStrap. I would go ahead and root now.
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I don't think there's a way to do it if you're stock. If it's the MJ7 update, you can still have root and install SafeStrap. I would go ahead and root now.
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Thanks for the response. I'm waiting for confirmation that the 1 click root methods aren't malware. I'm also hesitant to root at the moment, since I already have so much data on my phone, and don't want to loose it after the root. I realize by putting it off, I'm just making it worse for myself.
In the mean time, I was hoping I could just disable that notification. It's so annoying! Arghh, I hate Touchwiz sometimes.
Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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Probably not a good idea to take the update. I'd wait until our trusty devs get ahold of the OTA and do their magic.
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
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Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
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Heya. I have a rooted verizon note 3. I see i can get the 4.4.4 ota update. So i uninstalled root via SuperSU. I get an error trying to do the ota update. Is there a way to install this update without having to use odin and flashing stock? I dont want to lose all my appz settings etc. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
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That might just of been the best error ever, especially if you use root a lot. No way to go back and no known, released root at the moment for that version. Like above me has said, try flashing the NK1 modem using Odin and see if that improves your signal any.
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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If you want the benefits "fixes" of the latest, would be be smart to Odin stock so you are clean when you take the OTA.
lackdog said:
Well, i just have been using the stock rom, rooted with safestrap. Id like to update to 4.4.4 just to have the latest OTA with whatever various fixes it might have. Before i did the update i uninstalled anything from wanam exposed framework wise. Then i did the "remove root" from superSU. I still have the unlocked lock on the note 3 splash screen after reboot and the OTA fails....says error at install screen. I have read other people have done what i have done and the update worked. What im asking is am i overlooking something? Is it really even possible without using odin and reverting to stock even though i have read people have had sucess????
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You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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how to track 4.4.4 rooting progress?
donc113 said:
You do realize...that if you take the OTA...you WILL lose root. At this point in time...there is no known way to root 4.4.4 and the latest OTA.
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I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Marlon1691 said:
I too have read ambiguous posts of people who have used the 4.4.4 OTA on a towelroot'ed Verizon Note 3s. I've been skeptical that this would work and keep root so thanks for clarifying.
I have a question though. Where should I look to keep track of the latest news about a root technique for a Verizon Note 3? Also, is there a place to contribute to a bounty for someone who can figure this out?
I ask because If you google "samsung note 3 Verizon 4.4.4 towelroot" there are tons of hits, but most of them are from eons ago and while I root my phone, I am not a developer, and so don't know the lay of the land. In the past I've just searched for "root verizon samsung note 3" and crawled through the resulting mound of irrelevant material until eventually I found the answer. Or is the answer simply that every few days I search again to see if anything new pops up?
I realize this is a totally newbie question, but I'm a long-time newbie: I've been rooting my phones for years but I don't have a lot of phones and updates only come out every so often so I never really move up the learning curve of how to do this quickly and easily. I suspect others have the same problem. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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It likely is possible to update and keep root. But if after updating you screw up a mod, etc. and need to get back to stock you will lose root permanently.
flashing modem
leroybrute said:
Just install the nk1 modem. That is all you need if you are trying to get better reception.
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95897840722641747
Flash with Odin 3.09.
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Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hello I see flashing with odin 3.09, I think I have 3.29- does it matter and I am on biggins rom as well. You dont have to unroot or anything?
Thanls,
TJ
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There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
Odin 3.09
leroybrute said:
There is no Odin 3.29 out. Just Google Odin 3.09 and download to your desktop if you don't
already have it. Then flash the modem to your phone. Don't unroot.
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Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
tjmethod said:
Hi I did have the 3.09, plugged in as media & media 3.0 but it didnt work- any ideas?... I think I have plenty of space. Attached is is the screen I get on Odin.
Thanks,
TJ
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You need to put your phone in download mode before plugging into pc. Make sure debugging is checked in developer settings.
Thanks…
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
tjmethod said:
I forgot the download mode and to check the debug- always in a rush…
Ill check it when I get in- thanks again
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No, I thank you... Ha
GoNavyMike said:
lackdog said:
Yah, but i get pretty poor 4g for some reason and this update might (is suppose to) fix it. I read a lot of people have unrooted with superSU and installed the OTA update fine but for me it isnt working. Even though i dont have root.
My phone messed up earlier this week and I had to use repair assistant and when I did it updated me to NK1 KitKat 4.4.4 and I lost root and can not get it back plus the reception issue is still terrible.
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Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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Brainfire2 said:
GoNavyMike said:
Verizon forced me to upgrade before they would troubleshoot my phone.
I was not able to do it OTA, but using the Verizon upgrade tool works.
Now I lost root, & I gained a whole bunch of bloatware. Very frustrating
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That is why you should always tell them you are on the latest firmware
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I read about 4.4.4 and didn't like what they took away from 4.4.2. I won't go to it. If I were you I'd 'towelroot'- (get the simple steps on xda), and 'beanstown 106' has all the firmwares for these phones, put the nc4 on w/ 4.4.2, then install biggins rom v7, then upgrade via dirty flash with 8.0 then immediately w/ 8.3- fast touch response and after about 3-4 days, you'lI be getting twice the battery life… I jumped up to the new v9 but they dont have the theme for it yet. I miss the Kromex blue on black…
Hey guys,
I ran a search but I don't understand half the things people are writing. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could please explain to me my options. In layman's terms, as I do not understand half the abbreviations and jargons here.
I rooted my phone over a year ago and really don't remember much about the process. I can't download important apps from Google Play anymore as they require newer versions than 4.2.2... So I'm stuck on this old version and need to update ASAP.
I have ONLY rooted the phone. I haven't done any mods or installed any ROMS. It's on stock AT&T Rom. (sometimes I wonder why I even bothered in the first place).
Can someone please point me in the right direction, I want a regular STOCK AT&T newest version, whether it stays rooted or not that's fine, but a newer version, KitKat preferably. What are my options? The simplest method would help me the most.
Things I really need backed up: My Text Messages, Voicemail, Call Logs, Whatsapp Messages etc. What is the best way to back that up? If I use Titanium Backup, and I don't have root after I update, Titanium Backup would be obsolete. So what would my other option?
Please help.
Much appreciated,
Are you sure you want to update from 4.2.2. You probably have the option to flash custom roms on your phone. There are many custom roms that that'll put 4.4.4 on your phone. Since you're rooted get terminal emulator from the play store. In it type
getprop ro.bootloader
If the last three characters are mdb or mdl you have a lot of options. I can help walk you through on how to get a custom rom on your phone.
You can update your firmware and bootloader to 4.4.4 too but you'll lose the option to flash most custom roms.
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jd1639 said:
Are you sure you want to update from 4.2.2. You probably have the option to flash custom roms on your phone. There are many custom roms that that'll put 4.4.4 on your phone. Since you're rooted get terminal emulator from the play store. In it type
getprop ro.bootloader
If the last three characters are mdb or mdl you have a lot of options. I can help walk you through on how to get a custom rom on your phone.
You can update your firmware and bootloader to 4.4.4 too but you'll lose the option to flash most custom roms.
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Thanks bud,
I got I337UCUAMF3
I'll be honest, I haven't really messed with any custom ROMS before. I just use the stock AT&T one. But I would like to upgrade to KitKat so my phone is faster and can download / upgrade the latest Apps. Lollipop isn't out for the AT&T Samsung S4 right?
Kepela523 said:
Thanks bud,
I got I337UCUAMF3
I'll be honest, I haven't really messed with any custom ROMS before. I just use the stock AT&T one. But I would like to upgrade to KitKat so my phone is faster and can download / upgrade the latest Apps. Lollipop isn't out for the AT&T Samsung S4 right?
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Will the phone Not download the latest 4.4.4 from the phone settings?? Settings/More/About Device/Software Update. It must be connected to WiFi to download!!! Or you can get the AT&T S4 i337 to Stock 4.4.4 NJ4 Kit Kat Scroll down this page, easy to do. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-att/general/guide-odin-to-stock-updating-rooting-t2926642
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Will the phone Not download the latest 4.4.4 from the phone settings?? Settings/More/About Device/Software Update. It must be connected to WiFi to download!!!
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No. My phone is rooted... Is it supposed to download to 4.4? And also couldn't there be issues with that?
I found this post. So I know this is ONE option: But I'll lose my Root. Which is fine if that's my only option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728462
As the OP says, I will lose ROOT. So my question would be, If I back up using Titanium Backup, how can I restore my backup if Titanium Backup works only on ROOT? This is very important.
@ jd1639 - He had mentioned there were several other options, so I will wait to hear them, and I can make a decision from there. Otherwise, I may have to fork out another $150 - $200 Bucks on a Samsung Galaxy S5 or S6. depending which suits my needs.
Many thanks for the replies!
Kepela523 said:
I found this post. So I know this is ONE option: But I'll lose my Root. Which is fine if that's my only option.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2728462
As the OP says, I will lose ROOT. So my question would be, If I back up using Titanium Backup, how can I restore my backup if Titanium Backup works only on ROOT? This is very important.
@ jd1639 - He had mentioned there were several other options, so I will wait to hear them, and I can make a decision from there. Otherwise, I may have to fork out another $150 - $200 Bucks on a Samsung Galaxy S5 or S6. depending which suits my needs.
Many thanks for the replies!
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You're on mf3 bootloader which doesn't really allow you to flash any roms anyway. You'd have to use safestrap.
What I'd do is flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll update you to 4.4 and the device should then ota update itself from there. You will lose root, you can root it again if you want. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50912149
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jd1639 said:
You're on mf3 bootloader which doesn't really allow you to flash any roms anyway. You'd have to use safestrap.
What I'd do is flash the nb1 tar file in Odin. That'll update you to 4.4 and the device should then ota update itself from there. You will lose root, you can root it again if you want. See this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50912149
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Thanks JD, do you know if this wipes my phone? In other words, does it factory reset my phone?
Yes Flash the NB1 Stock file as he said. But you are going to loose Root and any pictures etc. stored on phone memory, so copy them to your PC or SD card. I always like to take SD card out just in case when I flash just in case it may erase it. But after you flash NB1 Stock or the Stock Root it is like a phone and have to set it up. Then it should Update to 4.4.4 itself from the settings/ Software update. Good luck. Any problem let us now.
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
Kepela523 said:
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
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It's possible to root even the 4.4.4. It just gets a little trickier to do it and you have to flash modules in Odin. In the general forum see "all things at&t....." by guut13
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Kepela523 said:
Ah cheers,
Last question: Do you recommend the First or second option?
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Stock_Odin_tar
I337UCUFNB1_4.4_Rootable_Stock_Odin_tar
Just a bit confusing as why he would post two separate links? I'm interpreting the first cannot be rooted ever.
Thanks again to the both of you for helping with this.
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Yep I think you are correct. So if you want to root again use the Rootable to flash in Odin. Once you go from Jelly Bean to Kit Kat bootloaders are Locked for some .tar Same for Lollipop, they have not been able to root and unlock bootloader as yet. Just follow the steps and take your time and all will be good. Have done it several times on mine with Odin.
Hey guys, I just wanted to take the time and thank you both for the help. I finally updated today. After backing up all my data and making sure everything was safe to go. Bam! I did exactly as you suggested and had zero issues... I am now on 4.4.2
There were a couple hiccups along the way, but I figured them out without too much of a hassle.
Cheers again and best of luck to the both of you!