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Att Nexus One ATT and T-mobile speed test.

Lets keep this thread clean, pics or info only about the differences between the t-mobile n1 and the ATT n1. Hopefully this thread will help out people to see the difference between the n1 for both services. Reception wise. And to compare how are signal strength between the two phone.
I just received the tmo version, and just ordered this after the ATT version (since im still an att customer) and will return the tmo version as soon as i get the att one (should be by friday). And cancel my new tmo account.
So tonight ill post up tmobile speeds and as soon as i get ATT n1 ill post that up as well. Anybody else willing to add in please do so!
So lets start this:
Area: Southern California
T-mobile nexus one stock rom 2.1update1
Baseband: 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
Build number ERE27
Signal 2 bars on 3g (best spot in my house, ill upload ones tested outside of the house)
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Thats horrible... I get 1800 kbps download and 640upload in portland OR.... ill post later.....tmobile... good thing ya getting your att one....

i get great download speeds but much slower upload speeds. my most recent test was 4.39 Mbs d/l & .33 Mbs u/l. see pics in this thread. i'm using T-Mo N1, MoDaCo Desire ROM-Alpha 12 w/ERE27 Radio and 3G access in Dallas.

yes it is HORRIBLE!!! thats why im glad i didnt cancel my att account and that att n1's are now available and that i have time to return the phone / close my tmo account with out a huge chunk out of my wallet.
i guess its meant to be?!?! lol
Anyways, back to the thread, keep em coming, and hopefully if people around your area decided to get the n1, can be assured that they wont be dissatisfied with the service. Or at least have a little in deciding which carrier branding to get.

Ok reposting tests.
Area: Southern California
T-mobile nexus one stock rom 2.1update1
Baseband: 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2
Build number ERE27
Signal 2 bars on 3g
(best spot in my house, ill upload ones tested outside of the house)
2nd test
(i couldnt wait for the ATT version to arrive, so i popped the ATT SIM card on the tmobile n1)
Everything the same even the spot where i tested it from.
Signal: EDGE full bars
As you can see this is just sad for my case. ATTs EDGE beats out T-mobiles 3g (2 bars). So im guessing the ATT n1 will the choice of phone for me.
Friday is the delivery date of the phone, will post the results by then.

Why is T-mobile's upload so much faster than the download? Is that normal?

corneliusm said:
Why is T-mobile's upload so much faster than the download? Is that normal?
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I was wondering that too.....my best upload was 1230 kbps while my best dl is 800 kbps. separate times but both with full bars on 3g.
But tmobile will be cancelled on friday . so i didnt bother calling them and asking them why is that.

the tmo band n1 one on the att network was getting .20, so very big difference. was good for light web browsing and email, thats about it.
oh those are in mbps

h2opoloplyr_11 said:
Hopefully this thread will help out people to see the difference between the n1 for both services. Reception wise. And to compare how are signal strength between the two phone.
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Well this would only be useful for someone that lives in the same area as you. All carriers reception varies widely depending on where you're located. For instance, here is what I'm getting on T-Mobile and why I won't be changing carriers anytime soon:

AT&T N1 in Rancho Cordova, CA
793 download and 800 upload on speedtest.
I had AT&T on TMo N! but only had edge of course so can't compare.

Atlanta, GA
Sitting in my home office, brick house, full bars.
Test 1
Download: 2618kbps
Upload: 1316kbps
Test 2
Download: 3349kbps
Upload: 1210kbps
Damn, this thing is fast. Maps is essentially instantaneous in updating the page.

Here's what I got on my AT&T N1. The bottom result is of course on Wifi. The rest are on 3G.
The results are in Mbps.

bugsy said:
Atlanta, GA
Sitting in my home office, brick house, full bars.
Test 1
Download: 2618kbps
Upload: 1316kbps
Test 2
Download: 3349kbps
Upload: 1210kbps
Damn, this thing is fast. Maps is essentially instantaneous in updating the page.
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Homefield advantage!
ATT Wireless is headquartered in Atlanta!

karnovaran said:
Well this would only be useful for someone that lives in the same area as you. All carriers reception varies widely depending on where you're located. For instance, here is what I'm getting on T-Mobile and why I won't be changing carriers anytime soon:
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Thats true, but thats why i wanted more people to share their results and please include your area. So the more people we have sharing the more area we get covered. And hopefully whoever is browsing here will most likely be in an area that someone had already posted.
**And to everyone, sorry to be a pain, but could you please include area, how strong is the signal and either 3g or EDGE, which version of the phone (att/tmo) and which carrier you are using. That way speedtests, pictures, and info are all in one post! thanks!**

2900 kbps down and 957 kbps up on ATT in Columbus, OH
That's using speedtest.net app.
I was getting over 3000 down lastnight. ATT is awesome. I dunno why people give it such a bad wrap...

All depends on where you are but I believe AT&T generally has more backhaul to their towers than T-Mobile.
Unless they're experiencing congestion, then AT&T is often faster. But in major cities like NYC, AT&T does sometimes have congestion problems.
In some areas, you'll see extraodinarinly fast speeds on T-Mobile (5-6mbps in Philadelphia and parts of New York). Over the next several months T-Mobile is increasing backhaul to their towers so you'll see speeds like this all over their network soon enough.
That's really the bottom line here...and if they have good coverage in your area my preference would be to T-Mobile, having used both networks.

I am in the 626 so-cal area and I typically get around 800/600 through T-Mobile. My friends on att get similar numbers on their iPhones.

Tests from NYC and Northern NJ on T-Mobile:

T-Mobile 3G - Kansas City, KS
Down: 1479 kbps
up : 223 kbps
http://twitpic.com/18enyi

I'm getting 1580 down and 1740 up in Denver, CO using AT&T N1, 3G, full bars.

AT&T HSPA+ vs Verizon/AT&T LTE - Nexus 4 worth the sacrifice?

I'm currently on T-Mobile and frustrated with reception in my area. I'm not knocking the company, it just isn't working for me. So I'm looking at switching next month and the Nexus 4 is one of my favorite phone options on the market.
My experience with the Nexus 7 has been pretty excellent. My one major holdup with the Nexus 4 is its lack of LTE. I am wondering if anyone has switched FROM an LTE phone to the Nexus 4. If you have, could you offer some impressions of how the difference in speed affects you - if at all?

Yes, and doesn't affect me... I think lte is a want, not a need. Sure, lte is nice if you download large files or stream video, but for everything I need, HSPA+ is great for me...
And I'm getting 4-12Mbps down in Denver. (T-Mobile was much slower when I tried it with my Gnex).
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Edit: you can also get a straight talk at&t Sim for a month to see how at&t is in your area... It'd cost ya $45 to try that...
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Went from first LTE phone with no one on the network to T-Mobile HSPA+, has not been a big deal at all.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

Not having the luck that some of you guys are having.
I have a ****berry that has H+. Took the SIM out and popped it into the GN4. No connection. Rebooted, connection came up fine. Calls, SMS, and data (gmail, web, apps, etc) all work fine. However, speedtest will not connect to do a speed test stating "network communication issues"
I went into the network selection and it shows two AT&T networks. Connecting to the upper one works fine, connecting to the lower one does not work.
Any ideas?

I'm in the Chicago area and at&t's LTE is very inconsistent with speeds, so going to hspa+ isn't a huge deal.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

I really don't think it is something anyone can answer for you since it depends so much on your area. It sucks there is no easy way to test every carriers reception in your area.
I personally just swapped from my GN on Verizon, in the Phoenix area (ie not the middle of nowhere). Granted outside, I'd sometimes see 14M+, but indoors, the GN would do like 1-3M down, or constantly be switching to 3G or just randomly losing its signal. Now granted, part (or most) of that could have been the radio's in the GN and not Verizon's network, but so far my N4 on T-Mobile is doing a constant 6-12M everywhere. I'm pretty satisfied so far.

I have a ipad 3 lte iphone 5 lte, and yes i can feel the difference, i get 40 to 50 mbps on lte... I might get 15 mbps on my Nexus 4 on dc-hspa+... Which is not that bad... Ill live with it, it's more than enough for streaming hd or whatever the hell you wanna do wirelessly.
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First I must say I have never had 4G LTE so I can't speak to the differences between the two technologies. I have AT&T 4G (3.5G) and have been trying the T-Mobile $30 4G prepaid plan. Both plans seem to offer me similar speeds, ranging between 6Mbps to 12Mbps and that is fine for me. The T-mobile plan seems to have more latency issues. But anyway, I don't really see what the big deal with LTE is. I mean, yeah, I can brag and say i get 70+Mbps, but doesn't that mean you will hit the limits on the "unlimited" plans faster and be throttled down? I mean really, I don't plan on downloading massive files, doing bit torrent or file sharing, I save that for home. The speeds I get now are fine for streaming Netflix and music and even Skype. So, when I was considering the Nexus 4G, the lack of LTE was not an issue for me at all. Love my Nexus 4!

ynnek63 said:
First I must say I have never had 4G LTE so I can't speak to the differences between the two technologies. I have AT&T 4G (3.5G) and have been trying the T-Mobile $30 4G prepaid plan. Both plans seem to offer me similar speeds, ranging between 6Mbps to 12Mbps and that is fine for me. The T-mobile plan seems to have more latency issues. But anyway, I don't really see what the big deal with LTE is. I mean, yeah, I can brag and say i get 70+Mbps, but doesn't that mean you will hit the limits on the "unlimited" plans faster and be throttled down? I mean really, I don't plan on downloading massive files, doing bit torrent or file sharing, I save that for home. The speeds I get now are fine for streaming Netflix and music and even Skype. So, when I was considering the Nexus 4G, the lack of LTE was not an issue for me at all. Love my Nexus 4!
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What are you doing other than selecting LTE from the phone info screen to get it to connect?
If I switch to LTE and reboot it boots as WCDMA as discussed here. I've tried all the usual options such as airplane mode etc to get it. The only thing I'm left with is thinking that my SIM may not support LTE as ATT like to give out an LTE SIM, but not sure if this is really needed.

gotzaDroid said:
I'm in the Chicago area and at&t's LTE is very inconsistent with speeds, so going to hspa+ isn't a huge deal.
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In Chicago AT&T is the worst possible carrier you can be on. Their LTE is only 5x5Mhz so it's already loaded and slow, and their HSPA has always been insanely slow. Your better bet is T-Mobile, or Verizon.

integramodder said:
What are you doing other than selecting LTE from the phone info screen to get it to connect?
If I switch to LTE and reboot it boots as WCDMA as discussed here. I've tried all the usual options such as airplane mode etc to get it. The only thing I'm left with is thinking that my SIM may not support LTE as ATT like to give out an LTE SIM, but not sure if this is really needed.
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The 4G I am referring to from AT&T and T-mobile is HSPA+ and not true 4G LTE. Some refer to it as 3.5G. And it suits my needs fine. I am not doing anything in the phone settings.

I came from VZW LTE to Straight Talk AT&T HSPA+ and I can say that I'm actually much happier. The LTE is lightning fast no doubt, but it sucked my batteries down too fast on my phone for it be of any use. I've had 3 different LTE phones and all of them were battery suckers. HSPA+ seems to be much more effecient.
With all that said, I'll take the reduction in speed to get significantly better battery life. No more carrying around a charger all day for me! BTW, HSPA+ is more than plenty to stream HD content and that will please the majority of people.

It would mostly depend on your area. On my Skyrocket as fast as LTE blasting through bandwidth is as fast as it drains the battery. On my N4 I can browse, load the pages pretty fine. Granted LTE will have better ping and/or bandwidth in a congested area but for the things I use: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tapatalk, Flipboard, Pandora, Google Talk/+/Hangout (video chat) etc.. those have all been loading fine and don't notice much of difference.
Now if I'll be downloading a large file then yeah thats where LTE will shine. One day my CM10 build was crapping up and I downloaded the next build in a few minutes and that saved me some time but as far as small instances as just browsing webpages I can do fine with HSPA+.
I'm in an area where I get about:
30/30 LTE
8/1 HSPA+

Recently AT&T turned on LTE in my area and I can tell you there is a noticeable difference on my s3. Using just HSPA+ I pretty much top out at 5-6Mbps but speed tests on LTE see incredible! I can usually get around 22Mbps. For some things I do (Netflix, etc.) it is a noticeable difference and totally worth it.
Though it is great in my area I know it depends heavily on where you live. As more users tax the system I'm sure speeds well be affected even where I live.
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computerslayer said:
I'm currently on T-Mobile and frustrated with reception in my area. I'm not knocking the company, it just isn't working for me. So I'm looking at switching next month and the Nexus 4 is one of my favorite phone options on the market.
My experience with the Nexus 7 has been pretty excellent. My one major holdup with the Nexus 4 is its lack of LTE. I am wondering if anyone has switched FROM an LTE phone to the Nexus 4. If you have, could you offer some impressions of how the difference in speed affects you - if at all?
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I came from a Galaxy S2 Skyrocket and I can't really say it matters that much. This phone is so fast and so smooth that the loss of LTE is now just an afterthought. I was very worried about this though before I got my Nexus 4. I'm am so glad I made the jump and bought this phone. Trust me if u choose to not buy this phone cause of it not having LTE u are making a huge mistake.
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well, i had Sprint, and because they had slow 3G i went with Vz.... and loved LTE.... but since they are assholes and treat their customers like **** i went ahead and left them after 7 months... my exit was the Nexus 4 with TMo... i do not regret it one bit...
at my work, i had 3G ~100kb connection on sprint and also Vz... if i went outside i had 4G LTE... my nexus 4 gets H+ 7mb connection at the same location.
heres a screenshots of my GNEX and N4 compared... for real world use, its great! no regrets
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oh yeah... one thing i have been noticing... and dont know is if its like that with TMo.... but i jump from 3G to H often.. like all the time... but not while using it... all this on areas of full bars
for example..i unlock phone and it says 3G.... when i start messing with it and click an app, it inmediately switches to H.... and stays there...
i dont know yet if the phone does it on purpose to conserve battery, but it doesnt bother me yet since it has yet to take long to switch or be bad reception.

Using t-mobile H+
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milan03 said:
In Chicago AT&T is the worst possible carrier you can be on. Their LTE is only 5x5Mhz so it's already loaded and slow, and their HSPA has always been insanely slow. Your better bet is T-Mobile, or Verizon.
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I have to ask, are you actually in Chicago? I live close to the border of Wisconsin, work in the north suburbs, have family that I visit in the west suburbs and the actual city of Chicago and I've never had an issue with att. I see LTE speeds from about 5-30 Mbps and hspa+ is about 2-5 usually. I came from sprint, which was absolutely terrible. I've tried T-Mobile, which had more dead zones than att but similar speeds, and no experience with Verizon.
I'm not trying to get into a pissing contest, but what are you basing your comment on?
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OnePlus One on UK Network Three.

So before I got my OPO I did a lot of reading on which networks it works on etc.
I was going to take the plunge and go for EE as that was the only network with 100% working in the UK.
However there was some temptation to go for 3 (unlimited data) but it wasn't 100% working according to reports, so I took the gamble.
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
The issue lies with the slower connections...
There is no G, there is no E, and no 3G. Anything below H is unavailable.
This doesn't bother me too much as if I don't have H or better I find it tedious to use anyway!
Like I said, just a quick heads up in case you didn't want to take the gamble yourself.

GPRS and Edge are 2g, which the Three network does not support anyway, so regardless of phone you will not get GRPS / Edge on Three.
Three used to let you roam on the Orange network a few years ago where it was possible to get 2g services in certain areas Three had no coverage, however i don't think this is the case anymore now.
Edit: Apparently in some rural areas you can still roam on EE for calls and texts, however not data.
I can also confirm the One Plus works perfectly fine on Three, i get HSPA / HSPA everywhere, and even 4g at work. I imagine its possible to get just 3g too, however i've never had anything lower than HSPA at home or where i work even on my older phones for many years. Its been very rare i've only had 3g on Three.
So far on a 4g speedtest i've had 30mbps download and 22mbps upload, very impressed! :good:

using 16gb OPO with cyanogenmod 11, on 3 network and no problem at all, LTE works perfectly and even 3g no problem at all.

Nxpx said:
using 16gb OPO with cyanogenmod 11, on 3 network and no problem at all, LTE works perfectly and even 3g no problem at all.
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I'm guessing you're in a city where the 4G isn't on the 800mhz band (not supported by OPO apparently)

I have seen my opo working fine on threes network and I get close to 30mbps easily on EE

@Insane nutter, that explains a lot thanks..
My OPO keeps popping up with a roaming message. So I'm assuming if I roam on to another UK network I'm not gonna get charged extra for it?
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InsaneNutter said:
GPRS and Edge are 2g, which the Three network does not support anyway, so regardless of phone you will not get GRPS / Edge on Three.
Three used to let you roam on the Orange network a few years ago where it was possible to get 2g services in certain areas Three had no coverage, however i don't think this is the case anymore now.
Edit: Apparently in some rural areas you can still roam on EE for calls and texts, however not data.
I can also confirm the One Plus works perfectly fine on Three, i get HSPA / HSPA everywhere, and even 4g at work. I imagine its possible to get just 3g too, however i've never had anything lower than HSPA at home or where i work even on my older phones for many years. Its been very rare i've only had 3g on Three.
So far on a 4g speedtest i've had 30mbps download and 22mbps upload, very impressed! :good:
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You mean GPRS or 4G in your first sentence

oscarandjo said:
You mean GPRS or 4G in your first sentence
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I get 4g on Three in my local area despite Three saying 4g has not been enabled here yet on their coverage map.

earni said:
So before I got my OPO I did a lot of reading on which networks it works on etc.
I was going to take the plunge and go for EE as that was the only network with 100% working in the UK.
However there was some temptation to go for 3 (unlimited data) but it wasn't 100% working according to reports, so I took the gamble.
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
The issue lies with the slower connections...
There is no G, there is no E, and no 3G. Anything below H is unavailable.
This doesn't bother me too much as if I don't have H or better I find it tedious to use anyway!
Like I said, just a quick heads up in case you didn't want to take the gamble yourself.
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I have it on the 3 network and it works fine, that said I am not in the countryside...

earni said:
I just created this topic to let people know if they are in the same boat as me.
I have H/H+ almost everywhere and 4G works perfectly where you would expect it to.
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You wonderful man, now I can grab that £15 Unlimited everything, 200 minutes SIM I've been waiting for, :good:

I'm on Three in London and 4g works fine. Do note three also use the 800MHz or Band 20 for 4G too but I think that is in rural areas for the time being.

I'm on Three and 4G in Newcastle doesn't work for me.

nikzDHD said:
I'm on Three in London and 4g works fine. Do note three also use the 800MHz or Band 20 for 4G too but I think that is in rural areas for the time being.
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How is the Internet speed in London on three? I saw on three till last year and had the worst speeds at my work place near Liverpool Street.. Moved to giffgaff and happy with 3g speeds but tempted to give three a try again just for the sake of 4g.

I can get 3G, H/H+ and 4G on Three. They do have a 3G network but most of the time it will use H/H+ instead as the signal is basically the same and the phone prefers H/H+ due to it being faster.
I haven't used the phone in the country, and I don't think I will be able to anyway

Is it possible to check which towns/cities are covered by specific bands to see if 4G would work in the area?

invinciblervd said:
How is the Internet speed in London on three? I saw on three till last year and had the worst speeds at my work place near Liverpool Street.. Moved to giffgaff and happy with 3g speeds but tempted to give three a try again just for the sake of 4g.
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They are fine mate. Taken this morning in East London. I'm happy with these speeds, have to bare in mind London is very congested so we won't see crazy 50+ speeds until the network further improves but I'm happy with these speeds.
I've had good speeds around Euston, Central, whilst on the tube in signalled areas generally around my area East they are more than fine.
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earni said:
@Insane nutter, that explains a lot thanks..
My OPO keeps popping up with a roaming message. So I'm assuming if I roam on to another UK network I'm not gonna get charged extra for it?
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Enable roaming - you won't get charged any extra while in the UK, and it will allow you to call and text on EE (this connectivity is part of Three's network - they only offer a 3G+ network, so they let you roam on EE where they don't have coverage).

I've tried 4g in Midlands and Yorkshire and it works perfectly well.

xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I'm on Three and 4G in Newcastle doesn't work for me.
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Is that coz of the phone or Network? My brother has a HTC ONE and he gets 4G in Newcastle?
Well atleast am sure he said he does lol.

Geordie Affy said:
Is that coz of the phone or Network? My brother has a HTC ONE and he gets 4G in Newcastle?
Well atleast am sure he said he does lol.
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Not often I see another geordie on XDA...
It seems to work now. I think I must have had LTE turned off or something.
False alarm. Works in Newcastle!

Nexus 6 isn't a Cat 6 device

If anyone has been wondering if Nexus 6 will have MDM9635, a Category 6 baseband processor capable of 300Mbps, it doesn't. It's loaded with MDM9625, Category 4, capable of 150Mbps.
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It's using Qualcomm's "Fusion 4" solution, pairing MDM9625 with APQ8084.
Note 4 U.S. variants are also using the same Cat 4 combination. Only Korean models of Note 4 seem to be Cat 6.

It will likely take US carriers 2/4 years before they adapt the technology for their systems. That is if they even want to have it.

Dr Faustus said:
It will likely take US carriers 2/4 years before they adapt the technology for their systems. That is if they even want to have it.
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AT&T already has Carrier Aggregation deployed in some (Ericsson) markets. Sprint is supposedly launching 20+20MHz Carrier Aggregation on TDD LTE by the end of this year.
T-Mobile and Verizon also have plans launching Carrier Aggregation, but they aren't in a rush as their networks have enough contiguous spectrum, allowing up to 150Mbps speeds without CA.

"Deployed"
Aka, 7 cities have it. 90% of the country is just now seeing LTE, cat 6 is quite a few years away.

ryude said:
"Deployed"
Aka, 7 cities have it. 90% of the country is just now seeing LTE, cat 6 is quite a few years away.
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Yes, deployed and turned on the network side. Several devices are already capable of leveraging CA and aggregating two component carriers (AT&T = B17 + B4/2), and users are already seeing faster median/peak data rates in those markets.
GS5, Note 4, G3, iPhone 6, Nexus 6 to name a few.
Also, Cat 6 isn't a network side feature, it's the capability of the user device.
Based on your comment "cat 6 is quite a few years away", you seem to be confused.

IMHO I don't think any of them have the backbone to support 300Mbps speed. Verizon FiOS barely makes that. First you have to deliver that speed to the tower. I think the Asian infrastructure is far more advanced in that aspect so it makes sense to include it in the newest phones.

obsanity said:
IMHO I don't think any of them have the backbone to support 300Mbps speed. Verizon FiOS barely makes that. First you have to deliver that speed to the tower. I think the Asian infrastructure is far more advanced in that aspect so it makes sense to include it in the newest phones.
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I assume that you're talking about the backhaul. Obviously, operators have secured access to fiber backhaul years ago (except Sprint), which is provisioned remotely as needed.
1. Verizon FiOS is a consumer/business solution.
2. Wireless operators don't necessarily shop for consumer internet solutions...
3. Many cell sites in dense urban markets are already provisioned to more than 300Mbps...

You guys ignore the fact that mdm9635 is a 20nm based chip. It can save a lot of batteries even if the U.S. doesn't have cat.6 network.
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I noticed the Nexus 6 uses the same LTE modem as the iPhone 6 which is good.
How does MDM9625 compare with the Nexus 5 modem M8974A?

milan03 said:
I assume that you're talking about the backhaul. Obviously, operators have secured access to fiber backhaul years ago (except Sprint), which is provisioned remotely as needed.
1. Verizon FiOS is a consumer/business solution.
2. Wireless operators don't necessarily shop for consumer internet solutions...
3. Many cell sites in dense urban markets are already provisioned to more than 300Mbps...
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Still, even if the backhaul supports 1GBps, how does that translate to many users on a single cell tower. On top of that, who in the US serves more than 50Mbps? I just don't think the US is ready for that yet.

obsanity said:
Still, even if the backhaul supports 1GBps, how does that translate to many users on a single cell tower. On top of that, who in the US serves more than 50Mbps? I just don't think the US is ready for that yet.
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Ready for what exactly?

milan03 said:
Ready for what exactly?
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Cat 6 and faster speed in general. Isn't that what we were talking about just now?

obsanity said:
Cat 6 and faster speed in general. Isn't that what we were talking about just now?
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I'm not sure who isn't ready. I'm certainly ready...
T-Mobile and Verizon have been providing their subscribers with peak data rates much higher than 50Mbps for over a year. Up to 150Mbps.
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I have no idea where are you going with this.

milan03 said:
I'm not sure who isn't ready. I'm certainly ready...
T-Mobile and Verizon have been providing their subscribers with peak data rates much higher than 50Mbps for over a year. Up to 150Mbps.
Check my signature.
I have no idea where are you going with this.
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I'm not sure where you're going with this. I'm definitely ready and I'm sure everyone wants more speed but the fact remains, not many get speeds above 20-30Mbps. Look up the average speeds for each carrier.

obsanity said:
I'm not sure where you're going with this. I'm definitely ready and I'm sure everyone wants more speed but the fact remains, not many get speeds above 20-30Mbps. Look up the average speeds for each carrier.
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You're contradicting your original false claims that:
1. None of the US wireless operators "support" backhaul of 300Mbps
2. None of the US operators "serve" more than 50Mbps
3. US is not "ready" for Cat 6 devices
I've proven all three of your false claims wrong. Thanks for the input though.

jerrylzy said:
You guys ignore the fact that mdm9635 is a 20nm based chip. It can save a lot of batteries
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This. Going from 28nm down to 20nm will further improve the battery life experience.
Next year's Snapdragon 808/810 will have IP stack on die, and it will be 20nm SoC solution. The front end is still 28nm though.

milan03 said:
You're contradicting your original false claims that:
1. None of the US wireless operators "support" backhaul of 300Mbps
2. None of the US operators "serve" more than 50Mbps
3. US is not "ready" for Cat 6 devices
I've proven all three of your false claims wrong. Thanks for the input though.
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Alright man, now you're putting words in my mouth. It's your thread. I've made my point. Have at it.

Geek fight in progress.

I'm S.Korean but I can't feel the fast speed with its' high bandwidth 'cuz the ping of all of carriers in S.Korea is suck.
(all carriers of S.Korea requests fast dormancy to all smarphone companies)
It is useful when I seeing the FHD or higher of resolution of videos and downloading big size of obb files of apps but that's all

marbulas said:
I'm S.Korean but I can't feel the fast speed with its' high bandwidth 'cuz the ping of all of carriers in S.Korea is suck.
(all carriers of S.Korea requests fast dormancy to all smarphone companies)
It is useful when I seeing the FHD or higher of resolution of videos and downloading big size of obb files of apps but that's all
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The latency is the most important and high dormancy will definitely decrease "time-to-first-byte", and overall "snappiness".
Here in the US, from my own experience T-Mobile has by far the lowest latency across their LTE layer, that is as low as 14ms. Averages around 30ms. Verizon is 30-50ms range.
Carrier aggregation will definitely benefit in areas with high traffic volume, as the user device can load balance or provide the overall higher median data rates to everyone.

T-Mobile Z3 connected to Band 12 (I think)

Hi Folks,
I've been talking to a few people on Howard Forums who think this is impossible, but now on several different occasions, LTE Discovery has shown my phone as being connected to Band 12. This is a stock, D6616 which is currently showing Bands 2 and 4 as active in the service screen and NOT Band 12. Can this be possible? I was able to pull over, stay connected and run a speed test on Band 12 which showed 10mbps download, which sounds about right given that it's just a 5mhz channel. Oh, and this was in San Jose, CA and then Cupertino/Saratoga, CA. Another weird issue is that, I don't believe the Channel 51 interference has been solved here.
So, I'm not trying to spread misinformation but could it be that the T-Mobile Z3 actually has Band 12 out of the box? Or, is LTE Discovery simply inaccurate and this is all just a dream?
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That may just be wrong, I pretty sure it has to be turned on via an update. Sprint did the same with the G2.
If you are in Cupertino/San Francisco, I believe T-Mobile does not have permission to use band 12 in your area. They have to make a deal with the local TV station to get them off 51.
T-Mobile Band 12 spectrum Map, current state:
https://sites.google.com/site/cellularbinder/t-mobile-700a-spectrum

I thought the whole reason (besides to LOCK OUR BOOTLOADERS) that T-Mobile has its own variant is that it supports Band 12. I know mine has had band 12 in some areas where I live for a while now.

They have band 12 in my area too, in Minneapolis if you look at the band 12 spectrum map, but until it's finished testing they won't push the OTA update to your phone to enable it. Sprint did the same, they eventually sent an OTA enabling their third band. Though with the G2 you could still enable even without it using the Hidden Settings menu, which is crippled on the D6616, probably on TMOs wishes.

Two things amaze me about this situation:
1) The Samsung devices on T-Mobile (and LG for that matter) are usually bootloader unlocked. Why must T-Mobile force Sony to lock all the bootloaders? It's very odd as usually T-Mobile is the best carrier on that front. Sorry, I know this is off-topic.
2) Why would the Note 4 already support Band 12 and they didn't demand that Samsung lock that one out?
@lunaandres: Are you saying your T-Mobile Z3 has connected to Band 12? How did you verify it? More info would be fantastic.
Thanks,
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Tmobile announced today that the Z3 is getting the band 12 I update in may. Can't post the link because I'm a noon.
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Definitely not enabled on my Z3, I live in Akron... So it should be available everywhere I go.
Hoping it fixes my dependency on Wifi-Calling at work...
I definitely enjoy 50mbps downloads atm though, can't imagine what I'd do with faster speeds lol

coolguykris said:
Tmobile announced today that the Z3 is getting the band 12 I update in may. Can't post the link because I'm a noon.
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Yeah, I was very sad to read this
http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/coverage-phones-700.html
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Damn, 4 more months...

abhinav.tella said:
Damn, 4 more months...
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Does that officially mean that Sony's lollipop update for Xperia Z3 D6616 will be released in May 2015? Ugh.

Sadly, I proved my own theory and wishes wrong yesterday and just wanted to update you guys.
I drove over to the same spot where I regularly see Band 12 on LTE Discovery and I popped my T-Mobile SIM into my Verizon Tablet Z2. We know for a fact that there is no Band 12 support on that tablet, yet sure enough LTE Discovery reported Band 12 loud and clear.
Bummer, definitely not a Band 12 siting on my devices. Sad
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GhostRaiderMX said:
Does that officially mean that Sony's lollipop update for Xperia Z3 D6616 will be released in May 2015? Ugh.
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the update will be also available for the Z3 D6633 ?
thanks

No, D6633 does not support Band 12, the D6616 supports it but just needs to be enabled.

abhinav.tella said:
No, D6633 does not support Band 12, the D6616 supports it but just needs to be enabled.
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thanks

Does Z3 D6616 really connect to band 12?
I know that back in June T-Mobile enabled band 12 for Z3, but when I check T-Mobile's page where it lists devices that are compatible with band 12, Xperia Z3 is not on the list: http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/coverage-phones-700.html

Charkatak said:
I know that back in June T-Mobile enabled band 12 for Z3, but when I check T-Mobile's page where it lists devices that are compatible with band 12, Xperia Z3 is not on the list: http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/coverage-phones-700.html
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Its probably a mistake on the website, it works. In fact I actually disable bands 2 &4 so I am always on band 12 which gives me full signal and hence greater battery life. Speeds will be lower though as TMO has less spectrum on that band.

abhinav.tella said:
Its probably a mistake on the website, it works. In fact I actually disable bands 2 &4 so I am always on band 12 which gives me full signal and hence greater battery life. Speeds will be lower though as TMO has less spectrum on that band.
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I have tried that,so when I disable LTE bands 2 and 4, my phone connects to 4G bands, but if I disable 4G, then there is no service. I guess the area where I was, doesn't have band 12 available yet. I will try it again. By the way do you know, in which case phone should connect to band 12? Is it only when there is not band 2/4 around?

Then I suppose you live in an area without Band 12 Support or maybe its only in testing in a few places near you?
It should connect to Band 12 when the other two bands drop too low, I get 2-3 bars on 2&4 and when it goes to one bar then it switches to Band 12 which then shows full signal.

abhinav.tella said:
Then I suppose you live in an area without Band 12 Support or maybe its only in testing in a few places near you?
It should connect to Band 12 when the other two bands drop too low, I get 2-3 bars on 2&4 and when it goes to one bar then it switches to Band 12 which then shows full signal.
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I checked the map of where T-Mobile has band 12 and found 3 locations(all within 20 min driving from each other) The only thing is that band 2 and 4 in these areas are really good, never go below 4 bars. I will try to disable all bands except band 12 and see if phone will connect. When I work, phone isn't getting LTE inside the building, but 3 or 4G is there, but data doesn't go through for some reason. That is where I would need band 12