Is h+ 4g? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My phone used to display 4g when connected to data. I flashed dr.ketan's rom on my n910w8 with data fix. I only get h+ and 3g now. The rom shows my device is now n910g

Kuro Miku said:
My phone used to display 4g when connected to data. I flashed dr.ketan's rom on my n910w8 with data fix. I only get h+ and 3g now. The rom shows my device is now n910g
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4g is hspa+ lower then lte

No, don't think so, 4G is labelled with 4G itself, or LTE.

The American carriers have a bad habit. They label HSPA+ as"4G". And LTE as "4G LTE".
While others label HSPA+ as H+, LTE as "4G"

Trex888 said:
4g is hspa+ lower then lte
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no, that's incorrect.
hspa+ is 3G.
4G is LTE.

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Fake H+ Signal

So just curious, I have this feeling that all 3G connections say H+ on the Atrix. I am at home on an AT&T 3G Microcell and it says H+ on my phone and I know for damn sure the Microcell doesn't support HSPA+ speeds.
Any input?
It will display the H+ on every connection besides 2G (edge).
Probably means HSDPA, which most of ATT's 3G network has (the 7.2 network)
thunderpack said:
Probably means HSDPA, which most of ATT's 3G network has (the 7.2 network)
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Nope.
The correct answer is: AT&T has turned on HSPA+ connectivity on all towers, even if the backhaul is not there to support it.
So, this means that if you have a HSPA+ "4g" device it will show H+ irregardless of if the tower is actually broadcasting HSAP+ speeds.
Yea but a microcell device doesnt support HSPA+ thus there is nothing to turn on...
leadguy68 said:
Nope.
The correct answer is: AT&T has turned on HSPA+ connectivity on all towers, even if the backhaul is not there to support it.
So, this means that if you have a HSPA+ "4g" device it will show H+ irregardless of if the tower is actually broadcasting HSAP+ speeds.
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Ya, that's not correct at all. There are plenty of user towers (microcells) that haven't been patched or "turned on" for HSPA+ and they're still showing the "H+" in the top.
The reason is because AT&T 3G *IS* HSPA...so instead of saying 3G it just says H.

How do I know if I'm in H+?

I have my phone with gingerblur and it only shows H. My gf's is stock and afaik only shows H+.
Is there a way I can find out which mode I'm in?
I looked in settings > status and there it's just HSDPA usually and says 3G
Thanks!
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Without doing a speed test =D maybe you could alter the pic used but I'd have to research more. Haven't themed that much.
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According to Jessica Wilson (952.703.4316) at Atts Office of the Pres, the H+ icon indicates you are on a 3G capable network. I know thats not helpful, but thats Atts answer to your question.
The Atrix SW only uses one icon for 3G connection, no matter whether it's 3G or HSPA. In stock, that's H+, in GingerBlur it's H. I set it to 3G on my modified GingerBlur. Cheating? Maybe.
You can do an H+ icon and push it into GingerBlur's framework-res.apk and replace it on your phone, if you really must have the +.
I got to ask, at my work place I don't get 3g but usually edge but once I got gingerblur at home I get (H) and when I go to work I get (E) and sometimes (G). I would think (E) stands for edge but what is (G) if (H) is for 3g? Thanks
Texasyoungin said:
I got to ask, at my work place I don't get 3g but usually edge but once I got gingerblur at home I get (H) and when I go to work I get (E) and sometimes (G). I would think (E) stands for edge but what is (G) if (H) is for 3g? Thanks
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g - 1g, e -2g, 3g, h+ - 4g
WiredPirate said:
Jessica Wilson (952.703.4316) at Atts Office of the Pres
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Number noted and applied to restroom walls!
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steevquinn said:
g - 1g, e -2g, 3g, h+ - 4g
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Thats confusing and wrong bud...
1G is the old Analogue system from like 20 years ago
G = GPRS or 2G
E = Edge or 2.5G
H = UTMS or 3G
H+ = HSDPA or 3.5G/4G
Thats what it should be... I think
tehrules said:
Thats confusing and wrong bud...
1G is the old Analogue system from like 20 years ago
G = GPRS or 2G
E = Edge or 2.5G
H = UTMS or 3G
H+ = HSDPA or 3.5G/4G
Thats what it should be... I think
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H+ should be HSPA and/or HSPA+. Otherwise, you're right on the mark.
NoNameAtAll said:
H+ should be HSPA and/or HSPA+. Otherwise, you're right on the mark.
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Cool
HSDPA / HSPA same thing, or quoting wikipedia "an amalgamation of HSDPA and HSPUA"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access
razorseal said:
I have my phone with gingerblur and it only shows H. My gf's is stock and afaik only shows H+.
Is there a way I can find out which mode I'm in?
I looked in settings > status and there it's just HSDPA usually and says 3G
Thanks!
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you won't be truly HSPA+ (H+) until enhanced backhaul has been installed at cell sites in your area.
check the coverage map:
http://www.att.com/network/
click coverage at the bottom and run your cursor over the map of the US. Cities that have had some enhanced backhaul installed will show up as you mouse over them.
NoNameAtAll said:
H+ should be HSPA and/or HSPA+. Otherwise, you're right on the mark.
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Any 3G connection - normal (UMTS), HSPA or HSPA+, is displayed as:
- H+ in stock
- H in GingerBlur
G is GPRS and E is Edge. For some reason, I don't get Edge here in Singapore. Maybe they don't have it. Or maybe the Atrix doesn't distinguish between G and E anymore in 1.8.3... Or maybe Atrix is incompatible with Edge here. No idea.
I think the classifications of the different connection speeds in Android are a bit dumb.
My Nokia N900 displays, 2G for GPRS, 2.5G for Edge, 3G for UTMS, 3.5G for HSPA (Obviously if it supported HSPA/LTE/WiMax etc, it would display 4G lol) and that makes logical sense to me.
Its really weird, my phone shows that my network is on hspa when I force it to wcdma only. I'm on Fido and they share rogers towers and their hsdpa? Random... I am however getting about 5 down and 1.5 up which is fast enough for me really.
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Go to your dialer and enter *#*#4636#*#*
Then go to Phone information, you should see your Network type there.
I've only seen two network icons in the stock status bar, E and H+ -- but H+ has been used while I'm on HSDPA and HSPA and even UMTS, so it's ultra unreliable, and I've never even seen HSPA+!
And an FYI:
No matter what the 4G coverage areas on the maps and what the mobile network company reps say, there are no true 4G networks in existence today, at least none that honor the original requirements for 4G.
Basically what occurred was that the ITU came up with a standard called 4G, companies falsely marketed 3G technologies as 4G, ITU gave up on the 4G standard, told the mobile network companies that they can keep the now meaningless term, and the ITU then made the IMT-Advanced standard which is what 4G should have been all along. IMT-Advanced solutions are in development, and not yet public.
ChongoDroid said:
Its really weird, my phone shows that my network is on hspa when I force it to wcdma only. I'm on Fido and they share rogers towers and their hsdpa? Random... I am however getting about 5 down and 1.5 up which is fast enough for me really.
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Well, HSPA is just an upgrade to WCDMA = UMTS. So I am not surprised. I do not think you can force your phone to NOT use HSPA but remain on 3G.
If you want 2G only... that is GSM I think.

4G in status bar instead of H

I see in setting - about device: mobile network HSDPA:9
But in status bar - 4G
Is it correct?
Stock I337UCUAMDL
Yes; hspa is 4g and LTE will show up as 4g LTE.
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That's normally.
AT&T tries to hock off their HSPA+ service as "4G" where it is really 3G service. 3.5G (Or 3.75G) if you want to get technical, since regular HSPA is 7.2mbit where AT&T's HSPA+ is 14.4mbit. When connected to LTE it display "4G LTE" on stock roms.
If you switch to any AOSP ROM, they will tell it like it is. Instead of 3G/4G it display "HSPA+". And when on LTE it displays "4G"
Just a ploy by AT&T marketing because Verizon was advertising they had great 4G (LTE), and AT&T's network was very far behind so they got FCC to classify HSPA+ as "4G" so they could advertise against Verizon, where in reality the service is not as great.
On my iPhone it used to display 4G whenever I was connected to any HSPA or HSPA+ tower. The tower at my house was only HSPA (Not HSPA+) as max speed I got was 5mbit/s on full signal. Yet it tried to play itself off as 4G. No AT&T...no...
Thank you for the clarification WoodburyMan.

[Q] at&t lte problem

OK, so I had an at&t s3 and had LTE getting speeds of roughly 30mbps. Now, on my nexus 4, I'm using g at&t with all of the LTE tricks and mods but all I am getting is 3g, h, and h+. The LTE APN does not give me a data icon. What do I do?
jamescable said:
OK, so I had an at&t s3 and had LTE getting speeds of roughly 30mbps. Now, on my nexus 4, I'm ng g at&t with all of the LTE tricks and mods but all I am getting is 3g, h, and h+. The LTE APN does not give me a data icon. What do I do?
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the nexus 4 doesnt support most of att lte. the n4 supports band 4 lte, att uses a different frequency. they do use band 4 in just a very few locations though, but mostly not.

Galaxy S7 Edge G935T

hello i have s7 edge g935t and i'm using it on 3G network but it display it as 4G network in the screenshot you can see my phone is on 3G only mode and i tried it on other 3G networks but my problem is still there even these network dosent have 4G ... is my phone drunk ???
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4G is 3G. It would say 4G LTE if you were on LTE.
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4G is HSPA+, which is actually 3G in every country but the US.
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It will show 4G for 3G and HSPA. Its a USA thing
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serio22 said:
It will show 4G for 3G and HSPA. Its a USA thing
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v8dreaming said:
4G is HSPA+, which is actually 3G in every country but the US.
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it means usa cellular companies are cheating with us they have 3G network in some areas and displaying it as 4G to make us fool hahah . i tried to use 4G on this phone and it also display same 4G icon like it display it on 3G it means they are cheating with us
id10terrordfw said:
4G is 3G. It would say 4G LTE if you were on LTE.
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no it display same 4G icon like it display on 3G network i am worried about this thing can i change this icon with any software ?? it must have to display H+ or 3G on 3G network and 4G lte on 4G network
jahanzaiblohani said:
it means usa cellular companies are cheating with us they have 3G network in some areas and displaying it as 4G to make us fool hahah . i tried to use 4G on this phone and it also display same 4G icon like it display it on 3G it means they are cheating with us
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No, it will show a 4GLTE icon when you're on 4G like mine
jahanzaiblohani said:
no it display same 4G icon like it display on 3G network i am worried about this thing can i change this icon with any software ?? it must have to display H+ or 3G on 3G network and 4G lte on 4G network
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Why are you so worried about it? You still get the same network. You can change it but you need root, which we don't have right now
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serio22 said:
No, it will show a 4GLTE icon when you're on 4G like mine
Why are you so worried about it? You still get the same network. You can change it but you need root, which we don't have right now
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no it didnt show 4G lte icon on 4G network i shows the same icon thats why i am worrying about it . i use 4g switcher to switch it on 4G only and after that i got a message from my network you entered in 4G network but my phone display same logo
jahanzaiblohani said:
no it didnt show 4G lte icon on 4G network i shows the same icon thats why i am worrying about it . i use 4g switcher to switch it on 4G only and after that i got a message from my network you entered in 4G network but my phone display same logo
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Go into settings, about device, status, Sim card status, there it will show you what network you are really on. I suspect not 4G
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Its a USA thing mate. Tmobile/Atnt for long have shown only 4g icon irrepective whether the phone is on LTE or WCDMA and thats because the 4g icon essentially just another fancy name for high speed HSPDA+ or LTE. Ther is nothing cheating about that. When I used my s7edge in India it still showed me 4g although I was on a 3g connection.
jahanzaiblohani said:
hello i have s7 edge g935t and i'm using it on 3G network but it display it as 4G network in the screenshot you can see my phone is on 3G only mode and i tried it on other 3G networks but my problem is still there even these network dosent have 4G ... is my phone drunk ???
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I forget what the code is to get to same menu from dialer.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher
I use LTE only mode when my LTE is only 1 bar and it switches me to "4g"
But anyways, you can try switching to lte only and see if the 4g lte icon comes on instead.
I lose phone and texting when I am in that mode. Fyi
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Hey there guys,
I have a GT935T (locked) atm, and as I am planning to move to India, I will get it unlocked. However, I am unsure if the T Mobile S7 Edge will work on the bands supported by Indian carriers. As far as as I have found through my research, the bands used in india are as follows, from the gsmarena page:
2G capabilities
GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G capabilities
UMTS 900, UMTS 2100
4G capabilities
LTE 850 (5), LTE 1800 (3), LTE 2300 (40)
The GT935T doesn't have the LTE band 40. Does this mean I will have problems connecting to an LTE network in india? I also found in my research that most Indian carriers that support LTE use the band 40. Does anyone have experience in this, or some expert opinion?
jahanzaiblohani said:
hello i have s7 edge g935t and i'm using it on 3G network but it display it as 4G network in the screenshot you can see my phone is on 3G only mode and i tried it on other 3G networks but my problem is still there even these network dosent have 4G ... is my phone drunk ???
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Why only use it on 3g? Flash the correct firmware for your country/location/carrier and it should pick up a better signal. That is unless there is only 3G network where you are located.

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