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I read it. Sorry to hear about your EVO man.
I got my EVO through Craigslist new in box because all the Sprint stores in my area who had them in stock wouldn't sell them to people not adding a new line of service. (Which is another story in and of itself)
When I brought it in to Sprint to activate they let me add insurance and told me that I'd still be covered under warranty for a year. I would be steamed if I was in your shoes too.
Thankfully I have a HW revision 0003 and my EVO hasn't yet to display any of the known issues.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/13/htc-evo-suffering-from-glass-separation-issues/
Just a short while ago I worked as a CSR for AT&T. Your friend got really lucky because 99.9% of the time a broken iPhone, even with a known issue, means you're SOL. In my experience, Sprint is much more flexible.
I mean you guys have any suggestions for me at this point? I know its just a phone and all but damn. i posted this on sprint forums, androidforums.com,xda, ppcgeeks, and of course my phone calls and visits to the repair center at MACOM
You bought the $7 plan for this very reason-- a more-than-likely behaviorally caused ding. (yes I read your post, but look at this from someone else's point of view. You had/used the phone how long before you saw this?)
Pony up the deductable and get a new phone. You realize you're costing yourself way more than $100 in grief and wasted time?
Lastly, just in case this is a defect and a recall is issued, keep your documentation on your calls to CS, claim filed, and out of pocket money. At that point you should be able to recoup your deductible among other things.
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Just a short while ago I worked as a CSR for AT&T. Your friend got really lucky because 99.9% of the time a broken iPhone, even with a known issue, means you're SOL. In my experience, Sprint is much more flexible.
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Sure, bro. Sure.
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Ok, this is going to be a long post, full of detailed information regarding my purchase of an Evo. I will be posting this on every forum I am a member of and there are alot that I post on.
A buddy of mine contacted me to tell me he had bought an Evo on launch day from Best Buy. He activated it on 6/6/2010 from a Best Buy in Kentucky. He was told " The Evo has push to talk". Well he later found out that it did not in fact have push to talk and he needed that feature for his Sprint business account. He was outside his 30 day "happiness" window so he had to buy a different phone. He decided to put his Evo on Ebay and sell it to try and get some of his money back for his Evo purchase. He let me know he listed it on Ebay and provided me a link to it. I ended up winning the auction on 8/15/2010. I received the phone on 8/21 and received original box, original everything. Even had a cover. Phone looked and smelled BRAND new. I quickly called Sprint to activate it and within 10 min I was sporting my new Evo. Added my insurance/repair $7 dollar fee like I do with all my phones.
All was fine until 9/5/2010, I noticed on the bottom left of the screen over the home button, the screen appears lifted and a little dust had gotten under it. Ok no big deal to me at this point. I do keep my phones in mint condition but I was just going to monitor this situation. 13 days later is when I called Sprint asking for an explanation. I called the customer service line and explained the situation with the phone. They immediately started blaming me for it. I guess maybe they thought I used a screwdriver and lifted the screen, who knows. The girl told me she was in Charlotte, NC and that she had never heard of a screen separating from the adhesive and to go to the repair center.
On 9/17/2010, I went to MACOM here in Florida. A nice gentleman greeted me at the repair window and asked how he could help me. I said well I called customer service and explained to them that the phone screen seemed to be coming up and to pay you a visit so you could investigate. 4 screws later my Evo was in several pieces and then put back together. He asked me where I got the phone so I told him. He looked up my account and said "you’re inside your 30 day window according to the calendar here and you should go home and call customer service back". I told him I had no intention of being given a brand new phone. To me , that would be dishonest and I live by being honest and I teach my kids to be honest to people regardless of the situation. He handed me his business card, said call Sprint and call me back if you have problems. Seems he was trying to push me into a brand new Evo. I lay no blame on this guy; he was trying to do the right thing. He told me he could have it replaced but it would be a refurbished phone which I am ok with.
I arrive home on 9/17 from MACOM and about 7pm I start making some phone calls. I have been upfront with Sprint about the terms of my purchase. The first lady I spoke to said she understood my issue and that she would get someone on the phone to help me after we talked 10 minutes or so. She asked if I minded being put on hold and I said absolutely not. I waited for about 7 or 8 minutes or so and another lady got on the phone from a different department. I had a really hard time understanding what her name was, who she was with, etc etc due to the heavy accent. From what I could understand, she was from advanced exchange it sounded like. She asked for my telephone #, verified my pin and all that good stuff and asks me the reason for the call. I then had to go into the WHOLE story again. 10 minutes later she asked me where I bought the phone. I said I bought it off Ebay from a SPRINT customer, not some random power seller. She then told me well there is nothing she could do and that was there anything else she could do for me. I said I guess not and told her to have a lovely weekend. She then said I could always file a claim with Assurion and pay a $100 deductible for this obvious defect.
After speaking to my wife, I felt I needed to call back. Around 8:30pm or so I called back to customer service and once again explained the situation. I asked her over and over to tell me if I had done something wrong, or this was somehow my fault. She completely denied any knowledge of a screen separation issue and proceeded to tell me she was going to talk to her supervisor about it and placed me on hold. She came back on the line in short time and asked if it would be ok if I received a call back. I said ok and told the lady to have a nice evening. About 45 minutes or so later my phone rings. I go to answer it using the slider and because my screen is acting funny due to part of it being lifted, somehow the call was dropped and she left a voicemail and her name and phone number. I immediately called back off my house phone and received her voicemail. I left a message and asked that she call me right away. I have not received another phone call.
Remembering the conversation with MACOM, I woke up on 9/18, loaded up the kids and drove on over. The same gentleman was there again. He remembered me from the night before. I told him I had called customer service and had gotten nowhere. The tune quickly changed from ordering a refurbished phone to having to call his district manager but however the district manager was off and on his motorcycle for the day and it would be evening before he could have a chance to talk to him and it would be next week before he could get back to me. He was very nice and polite and told me to have a good rest of the weekend and he would get in touch with me.
Now that I have laid out the facts, I am now going to state my opinion on this. First off, Sprint denying the screen separation is a joke within itself. Searching on Google using the search criteria "evo screen separation" shows 6,700,00 results found. How could people not know about it that work for Sprint? The repair guy at MACOM had heard about it, but nobody else? How is that even possible? My next complaint is about the way I purchased it. If I was not tempted by all the Sprint commercials about the EVO and not being able to actually find one in Florida, I would not have had to go buy one of Ebay. I bought it from a valid Sprint customer not some guy on Ebay looking to make a few bucks. Sprint still should honor my purchase and either fix my phone or give me one that works, isn't that what I pay the TEP for?. I guess anyone who is buying either a barely used or brand new phone off Ebay should just stop doing it now before you run into a situation like what I am dealing with. I am a premier customer with Sprint; I have 3 lines as well so I consider myself an important customer. Plus it helps in the years I have had service, I have never missed a payment, been late, or anything. Sprint should not allow you to buy a phone from anywhere and activate it successfully if they do not want to honor an obvious manufacturing defect. This will not cost any money for Sprint to replace my phone because I am sure it would be sent back to HTC as a defect. I am not editing this post until there is a resolution so that the public sees what I have had to deal with. Once Sprint provides a resolution, I will then have this post removed and I will once again be a happy Sprint customer.
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I've had better luck. I was once placed in this exact situation. Brought my phone into Sprint to have it repair the lifting of screen. In-house techs repaired it, no questions asked (or blaming). One hour later, they called me back and issued me a new one, as their investigation determines hardware version 0002 was a manufature defect. Perhaps it's all based on locations, reps, your attitude towards them, etc. Where I'm from everyone one's laid back, reps are always friendly and don't really have to put up with too much of people's ****, because non really gives them **** to begin with. They even accept rooted phones too, where as I read that many other users have to unroot before bringing their phone into Sprint for replacement/repair.
If you don't mind paying a deductable ($100 max), call into customer service and request a replacement.
And to the dude who was previously on AT&T with iPhone, sure buddy. SURRRREEE. If you EVER had service with them, you of all people should know that AT&T & Apple will put you through hell. I should know, that's why I dropped AT&T & the iPhone 2G.
illogic6 said:
I read it. Sorry to hear about your EVO man.
I got my EVO through Craigslist new in box because all the Sprint stores in my area who had them in stock wouldn't sell them to people not adding a new line of service. (Which is another story in and of itself)
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That is actually illegal, they have to sell it to you, I actually did the same and had to mention that it is illegal to not sell it, after mentioning that they budged and sold it to me.
Back on your situation with your EVO, I would recommend posting on consumerist as that is more their territory. They have the phone numbers for executive customer support also, they WILL fix your issue ASAP. http://consumerist.com/2007/05/sprint-sets-up-consumerist-reader-executive-customer-service-hotline.html
tbh, I feel no simpathy since you being "honest" has nothing to do with the situation. You didn't steal the phone, the phone was defective therefore it's not like you were doing anything wrong. You should of returned it and gotten a replacement. There's been hundreds if not thousands of people that have done the same with the screen lifting issue.
Also if you didn't know before, google is based on keywords, it doesn't take the phrase and search for it. About 5million of those results were for the word "evo", other million were for "screen", and so on. Out of those results, only about 20-30 were for the evo issue. I've been doing SEO for a long time, so when it comes to google I know what I'm talking about.
Also sprint doesn't care if you took it apart, or if it came apart by itself, because they will tell you in the end to return it because of the issue. They know people do it, and it's perfectly okay, since you're not "cheating" anyone. The 30 day thing is made for a reason, it's not made for you to screw them over. Also the insurance that you put on the phone is made for a reason.
Either you're not telling the whole story, or you were too ignorant to return the phone.
Btw, side note for you. Check out the app TiKL for push to talk on your EVO.
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As a Sprint retention supersvisor, let me ask you something which I would have asked you if you were on my call. What makes you think SPRINT is responsible for a phone your purchased from somebody on Ebay wether it be a Sprint customer or not? You are LUCKY they even allow you to use TEP on a phone that was not purchased from them. Now, here's what we can do, make a claim, pay the $100 and have it replaced or go back to the store and speak with the idiot that told you to call in.
Let me put it in perspective for you, when your car breaks you take it to the mechanic right? You don't just call Ford and they fix it over the phone or send you out a new truck to your home. There is NOTHING someone over the phone can do, the repair center has to do it all, granted most the time they send you something over the phone or break policy it's to shut the customer up and get rid of them. The store has to fix it, if they can't fix it, make a claim for you through the warranty or asurion. I really don't understand why this is so hard to understand. And please don't take this the wrong way it is not an attack on you personally, but it is definitely an attack on what should be common sense.
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I've had better luck. I was once placed in this exact situation. Brought my phone into Sprint to have it repair the lifting of screen. In-house techs repaired it, no questions asked (or blaming). One hour later, they called me back and issued me a new one, as their investigation determines hardware version 0002 was a manufature defect. Perhaps it's all based on locations, reps, your attitude towards them, etc. Where I'm from everyone one's laid back, reps are always friendly and don't really have to put up with too much of people's ****, because non really gives them **** to begin with. They even accept rooted phones too, where as I read that many other users have to unroot before bringing their phone into Sprint for replacement/repair.
If you don't mind paying a deductable ($100 max), call into customer service and request a replacement.
And to the dude who was previously on AT&T with iPhone, sure buddy. SURRRREEE. If you EVER had service with them, you of all people should know that AT&T & Apple will put you through hell. I should know, that's why I dropped AT&T & the iPhone 2G.
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That is what he said, with AT&T you're **** out of luck
Several people were asking what comes with the Charge that is being offered as replacement and what do you have to send back. Here is a list of each item that i received today from big red.
In my Fed Ex box, i found a new droid charge kit (the box they come in new) and the activation guide for 4g phones.
In the Charge kit, i found a user manual, the new device, battery, AC ->USB adapter with a USB sync cable (yay!), and a $25 samsung media hub credit code. The phone DOES have the preinstalled 32gb sd card included!
What is NOT included is the 4gLTE sim card. You have to go to the corporate store for one of these. They will put it in for you and assist you in re adding your google account.
The agent stated that you are NOT required to return your old SD Card or any cases or accessories. I asked if they required the used battery and phone backing (you keep them with normal replacements) and she could not give me an answer.
I have to say that i am more than pleased with this offer and am very satisfied myself. Hope this helps!
I had a dream last night that i switched to a charge and it was shaped like a pair of binoculars and had huge push buttons everywhere on it.
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bobthesalesclerk said:
I had a dream last night that i switched to a charge and it was shaped like a pair of binoculars and had huge push buttons everywhere on it.
CM7/Glitch ML 1.5ghz/Steel Blue tapatalkin
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LMAO its not the most attractive device.
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What is NOT included is the 4gLTE sim card. You have to go to the corporate store for one of these. They will put it in for you and assist you in re adding your google account.
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Just an FYI, my closest corporate store is ~45 miles away. I called my nearest 3rd party store (Wireless Zone) and they sold me the 4gLTE sim card for $5, and activated it. It would have been free at the VZW store, but not worth the 90 mile round trip in my case.
I understand a majority of you guys got your fascinates through verizon. But i purchased mine through best buy when they had the fascinate for 150$ promotion.
I too get missed calls and other issues but i can bet best buy is not as willing to replace products for free. Is there anyway i can get verizon to supply me with a new phone since it is their radio that is the issue here? Thanks for any input !:
if you got your fassy on contract it will have a 1 year manufacturers warranty. I have heard though that if you call tier 2 and complain enough they will offer you at the least a incredible 2 or dx2 no matter where you got your fassy... worth a shot either way
I bought mine through eBay roughly 2 months ago and they never once asked how I purchased it. They were really apologetic and asked if I was interested in a different device or to wait until an update was put out later this month. Of course I took the new phone
I wasn't aware the charge was being offered as a replacement. I called several times earlier this month and was repeatedly offered a refurbished fascinate.
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PeterGunz said:
I wasn't aware the charge was being offered as a replacement. I called several times earlier this month and was repeatedly offered a refurbished fascinate.
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I think they made it a policy to replace with other models on 7/8. Its pretty amazing that they'd even replace with such new models.
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I understand a majority of you guys got your fascinates through verizon. But i purchased mine through best buy when they had the fascinate for 150$ promotion.
I too get missed calls and other issues but i can bet best buy is not as willing to replace products for free. Is there anyway i can get verizon to supply me with a new phone since it is their radio that is the issue here? Thanks for any input !:
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I bought mine at Best Buy on Black Friday and they allowed me to do the replacement. The second time I called to tell them which phone I wanted, the woman told me that they could only replace it with another Fascinate, now that they were back in stock. So I rejected the replacement and called back, got a different rep who honored the original offer. I took the Inc2. Don't really like the look of the Charge even though I love the screen and potential 32GB card (lol), but we don't have 4G where I live and since it doesn't extend your contract, I figured its still a nice deal.
Called today with the dropped call complaint, immediately offered my choice of the three...heading to the store to finish up my "order" on the charge today!
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So if yall are getting inc 2's and charges as replacements and say your upgrade date is in 2 months, could you still upgrade to something else?
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Called today with the dropped call complaint, immediately offered my choice of the three...heading to the store to finish up my "order" on the charge today!
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same.
Charge will be here on Wednesday (approximately).
Got my charge ordered today, be here tuesday.
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For those of you getting the Charge, what exactly did you say to them? Just, "I'm having dropped call issues."? From my past experiences they will want you to do three hundred other things and then tell you to see how it does for a few days and call back if it happens again. Was it really as simple as "I am having dropped calls a lot, several times a day" and they go "ok how about a Droid charge"?
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For those of you getting the Charge, what exactly did you say to them? Just, "I'm having dropped call issues."? From my past experiences they will want you to do three hundred other things and then tell you to see how it does for a few days and call back if it happens again. Was it really as simple as "I am having dropped calls a lot, several times a day" and they go "ok how about a Droid charge"?
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First tier will probably wanna do some basic troubleshooting like *228 and battery pulls or resets, just keep insisting politely that you've done all this (do it if they keep saying they want you to) and are still having problems but don't push for a new phone... You should get transferred to tier 2 (you may have to ask to go higher, ask them if there's anything else a different higher level rep can do), once you reach tier 2 they should've been told of your problems and will ask if you would like a replacement phone. You may hit snags where they ask you to go into a store to check the phone out or they may ask you questions about the build/baseband you're on, if so just comply and call back if they deny you. This is how my phone call went: I told the first CS rep about the usual problems missed calls, gps lock problems, poor signal strength etc. then she proceeded to have me do the *228 update (was on EB01 when I called I believe). It wouldn't update so she immediately told me to hold while she transferred me to tier 2 and told them about my issues. Tier 2 guy answered and right off the bat offered to replace my phone with another one, I asked 'like what?' and he named off the Dinc2, X2, and Charge. The rest is obvious...
It depends on the rep you get. Some say they have to troubleshoot it with you, even if there are notes that you have already done so. The first rep I spoke to, told me that she could only replace it with another Fascinate. I declined and called back. It was with the second rep that I was given the choices. It all depends on if the rep you speak with knows about the problems with the phone.
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First tier will probably wanna do some basic troubleshooting like *228 and battery pulls or resets, just keep insisting politely that you've done all this (do it if they keep saying they want you to) and are still having problems but don't push for a new phone... You should get transferred to tier 2 (you may have to ask to go higher, ask them if there's anything else a different higher level rep can do), once you reach tier 2 they should've been told of your problems and will ask if you would like a replacement phone. You may hit snags where they ask you to go into a store to check the phone out or they may ask you questions about the build/baseband you're on, if so just comply and call back if they deny you. This is how my phone call went: I told the first CS rep about the usual problems missed calls, gps lock problems, poor signal strength etc. then she proceeded to have me do the *228 update (was on EB01 when I called I believe). It wouldn't update so she immediately told me to hold while she transferred me to tier 2 and told them about my issues. Tier 2 guy answered and right off the bat offered to replace my phone with another one, I asked 'like what?' and he named off the Dinc2, X2, and Charge. The rest is obvious...
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I don't think they can tell if you did anything or not......in my experience its a matter of waiting and then saying, ok, yeah, I did that. Same problem.
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I don't think they can tell if you did anything or not......in my experience its a matter of waiting and then saying, ok, yeah, I did that. Same problem.
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they can't but I was told they know the last time you did a *228 prl reset, my phone didn't successfully complete it (don't know why) and I was immediately transferred cuz she probably thought that was the problem
blazing through on my VZ Droid Charge
Anyone have any experience returning phones with physical damage? I have a cracked screen, phone works fine and I did talk to them a long time ago about the issue so it should show up in the account. Do I have a shot?
So...this is going to be a somewhat long post about how lucky I am to have acquired my Dinc 2 after a HUGE verizon horror story....I encourage others to post their stories as well so that we can see how Verizon tried to skip out on giving people their new phones.....
So I was on the fourms last week reading up on the Fascinate deciding whether to root it again (I unrooted it because of problems with CWM and flashing ROMs...but thats a different story for a different day.) I had OTA'ed to ED04 (not knowing about the missed call issue) and figured everything was fine. My girlfriend started complaining that I was always missing texts and calls from her and I told her it must have been her phone that was doing it but she wouldn't buy it. I didn't believe her until my work tried to call me to come in to cover someones shift and I got in trouble for not answering the call (which I never recieved).
So I was just casually browsing the forums last Monday (July 18th) when I saw that this was a common issue with the ED04 update and saw that an eligible replacement was a Droid Incredible 2. (I originally wanted that phone instead of the Fascinate but it was out of stock when I went to get it so I settled for the Fascinate.) So I followed what everyone said and called up Verizon. I got connected to a girl who was really nice and seemed to genuinely want to help with my problem. Now I explained the situation about the missed calls and she said that they would send out a new phone right away. What I didn't know is that the girl chose to send another Fascinate right then and there and she didn't even mention the replacement offer and then all of a sudden she says "okay the new fascinate should ship overnight....actually wait.....no sorry its going to take until Saturday to get there".....I quickly interupted and said "Wait....you sent out another Fascinate?" she said yes and I asked her about the offer for the Droid Incredible 2 and said "Oh....I'm not authorized to do that...you need to call tech support". Needless to say I was peed off. But anyways I got off the phone with her and got in contact with tech support. I told the guy everything that had happened so far and he told me "Yes. You are eligible to get a droid incredible 2. But the problem is I can't send it out because you had the Fascinate shipped to you. You have to wait until that is shipped to your house and then you have to mail it back and wait until we recieve it, then you have to call again and order the Incredible." He then quickly added "Or, when you get the phone you can bring it in to a Verizon store and they will be able to give you the Incredible and take the Fascinate for you". So i told him I would go into the store and he said that he would note on the account about my situation so that it would be clear in the store.
Needless to say the phone came Monday of this week (not Saturday like it was supposed to....it came USPS and not FedEx so it was delivered slower and they don't deliver on Sunday). I went into the Verizon store that day and explained the WHOLE situation and the lady there said I was eligible for the phone but that they couldn't give me the phone there and that it had to get shipped to me. So the lady said she could put the order through on her computer. She told me it would be shipped overnight and that I would have it the next day (Tuesday the 26th). Then she told me that I had to activate the new Fascinate they sent out to me (which I wasn't supposed to get in the first place) and use that phone for now and send my old one back through the mail (which made no sense whatsoever and she came up with some long drawn out excuse so I just went with it). So we activated the new phone and everything seemed great. Tuesday came and the package didn't come. Okay....must just be running late. Then yesterday it didn't come either. I walked up and down my street to make sure it didn't get delivered to the wrong house. So when I didn't see it I called Verizon to see if it was shipped (Oh btw....the lady at the Verizon store never gave me a tracking number for the package....stupid me.....). They said there was no order for a Dinc 2 and then I got forwarded to Tech support. The lady I got forwarded to was really nasty and didn't know what she was talking about. She said that my new phone came with an update to fix that problem and then I told her that she was wrong because I looked at my software when I go the phone and it was the same as my previous one and I was still missing calls and texts (it was here I realized after seeing the leaked ED05 here on XDA that they were stalling so they didn't have to give me a new phone ). When she knew that I wasn't clueless she tried to say that the package didn't get delivered because my bill wasn't payed for the phone yet (which wasn't due for another 7 days). So I argued with her about that and said that makes no sense because it wasn't due yet. Then she had me transfered to a Supervisor who was even more nasty and said that I WAS THE ONE who made a mistake because I ordered a phone without my balance being paid (WHICH WASN'T FREAKING DUE FOR ANOTHER 7 DAYS!!!!) and that I also hadn't sent the old phone back (which everyone who I talked to previously said I could ship back once I got the Incredible). So after a very long time he finally budged and said that they could send it but that they shouldn't because of my balance (which he kept persisting on...and I'm always on time with the bill and its always paid in the first place). So I got transfered back to the lady who put the order in and I made sure to get a tracking number for the phone. She then transfered me to another person who told me the procedure of sending my other phone back in with the accssessories that came with it because I'm getting new ones for my phone. Now they sent out the phone overnight and I got it today but I'm not reciving the accessories until tomorrow. Made it by the skin of my teeth...and thank god.
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So in summary I just wanted to say that the phone call on Tuesday took me ONE HOUR AND 45 MINUTES ALTOGETHER!!!!!!
Verizon tried many tactics to make sure I didn't get my phone because they knew the update was supposed to come out and I'm really surprised that I didn't catch on sooner.
The way Verizon treats their "valued customers" is atrocious. I can't believe how much effort was used to try to defer me from getting a new phone that was offered for everyone just because they had an update in the works. Not that it surprises me...because I would expect it. But I think they went a little too far by trying to say that the situation was MY FAULT. What especially got me ticked was the fact that AFTER I showed them I wasn't just some person with wool over their eyes and that I would fall for the fact that the lady said "the phone was sent with the fixed update on it" (WHICH HADN'T BEEN RELEASED YET!!!!!)...they choose to say it was because my bill wasn't paid (which still wasn't due for 7 DAYS!!!!). Ridiculous !!! I would switch from Verizon in a heartbeat after this if I wasn't locked into a contract with them and if other companies had better deals. Maybe when the contracts up (still another year and a half...ugh) I will switch to someone a little better to their customer. Anyone else have a story for me??
Cool story bro!
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Cool story bro!
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JK! That really sucks though, I feel for you man. I have two fascinates on my account and they have been screwing up my mailing address only on the phones but not on the accessories! I was like WTF! I did however get my first Charge activated and ready to go. I am still waiting for the second replacement Charge to come in the mail as we speak. I find your assertion that they're stalling completely valid. I never had any issues talking to Verizon corporate over the phone, but the damn employees at the store tried giving me run around about how they can't order replacements from the store and stuff. And then they end up doing later...so I'm like WTF!
If you have any further trouble don't try to be nice to them. If at the store, just give them mean looks and if over the phone, just keep a stern voice like you wont take no for an answer LOL! Worked for me.
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JK! That really sucks though, I feel for you man. I have two fascinates on my account and they have been screwing up my mailing address only on the phones but not on the accessories! I was like WTF! I did however get my first Charge activated and ready to go. I am still waiting for the second replacement Charge to come in the mail as we speak. I find your assertion that they're stalling completely valid. I never had any issues talking to Verizon corporate over the phone, but the damn employees at the store tried giving me run around about how they can't order replacements from the store and stuff. And then they end up doing later...so I'm like WTF!
If you have any further trouble don't try to be nice to them. If at the store, just give them mean looks and if over the phone, just keep a stern voice like you wont take no for an answer LOL! Worked for me.
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Yeah man no kidding!!! What I'm waiting for now is to get a bill for the Dinc 2 because I have to activate it tomorrow because the battery and charger won't arrive until then!!!! They will probably try to say "Oh. You should have known that the new update came out for your Fascinate and that we want you to send the replacement back and download the update". Sounds like something they would pull after what just happened to me .....hahaha
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JK! That really sucks though, I feel for you man. I have two fascinates on my account and they have been screwing up my mailing address only on the phones but not on the accessories! I was like WTF! I did however get my first Charge activated and ready to go. I am still waiting for the second replacement Charge to come in the mail as we speak. I find your assertion that they're stalling completely valid. I never had any issues talking to Verizon corporate over the phone, but the damn employees at the store tried giving me run around about how they can't order replacements from the store and stuff. And then they end up doing later...so I'm like WTF!
If you have any further trouble don't try to be nice to them. If at the store, just give them mean looks and if over the phone, just keep a stern voice like you wont take no for an answer LOL! Worked for me.
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Sometimes that's the best way to deal with em. I've had more success with poor customer service by being stern and not backing down than with just being a ****. Absolutely. That pisses me off and I'm not even with verizon, and after reading that for good reason. Hate to hear you went through so much BS but glad you did get what was owed to you.
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Verizon must have been getting alot of calls to switch phones. I wonder how many were trying to trade out even though they weren't having issues. How quickly word spreads.
Hope the update takes care of the missed call/text issues because I really like my Fascinate.
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Verizon must have been getting alot of calls to switch phones. I wonder how many were trying to trade out even though they weren't having issues. How quickly word spreads.
Hope the update takes care of the missed call/text issues because I really like my Fascinate.
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The issues were universal, so zero. Why is everyone trying to be a douche about this?
I never had a problem with missed calls
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Hope the update takes care of the missed call/text issues because I really like my Fascinate.[/QUOTE said:
well it dont, Im running ed05 and still get missed calls!
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I've never really had a problem, that I noticed. The only missed calls I've had have been at my house, which gets terrible reception. But every phone my girlfriend and I have had, have had the same problem at my house.
If I were, I would certainly be taking advantage of the phones warranty.
I've never noticed anyone mentioning signal strength during missed calls. Has it occurred with full signal strength?
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yes as i was driving by a cell tower yesterday lol
So I finally received the 2nd charge in the mail for my other fascinate on our account after clearing the address issues. Unlike my Charge, this Charge came in a retail box with a charger, 32gb sd card, back door, etc. My Charge came in the Verizon's typical replacement box, but it too looked brand new. Usually even on the certified refurbished models you can find signs of it actually being a used phone.
Two thumbs up to Verizon for replacing the defective fascinates. I haven't had a single missed call and the gps locks in quick.
I hope all of you resolve your issues with Verizon and get your replacements as well.
Our story is different but similar.
My family has 3 Fascinates and they were all missing calls, having volume control issues, wi-fi connection issues, battery drain issues, etc. I called Tech support last week and confirmed that I could get all 3 replaced but 2 of the phones were out of town so I had to wait to discuss it with the kids.
We finally got to a Verizon store to test the 3 phones offered on Tuesday night. We made some test calls and 2 out of 4 calls made to my phone *in the verizon store* failed to come through. Ridiculous. The call quality on the Fascinate was awful when we directly compared it to the other 3, no comparison. The Droid X2 really excelled there.
Anyway, we asked for the recall replacements and were told that they couldn't do it because the computer showed that we were out of warranty. Well, the phones haven't been OUT for a year, much less in my hands, so she knew the computer was wrong but couldn't fix it. Sent me home to call Tech and get them to override the system.
Called Tech. They said that my account showed 3 Fascinates with no warranties, but that was wrong as they SHOULD have warranties on them. The only way to fix it was to send me 3 new Fascinates. Then, once those were activated the computer should recognize that the new phones had warranties and I could trade those in. OK.
New phones came in this morning. Activated them all. Version ED04 shipping on them all but within 5 minutes the ED05 was pushed out to them all.
I should be thrilled that I can keep my Fascinate, but after testing the call quality in action and feeling like I was railroaded into this delay, I'm a little pissed off.
No one else had the "oh gee, you don't seem to be covered by a warranty, how strange" glitch happen to them, did they?
It took me 5 calls to CS and 2 trips to a Verizon Store to get my Charge replacement. Funny thing is that the first time I went to the VZW Store the rep told me that they had no stock of the X2, DI2, or the Charge. I then went to another store and the guy ordered me the Charge right away. So I was given the run around and lied to, not very nice imo. But I got my charge now, I'm happy.
I just received a replacement fascinate a week ago. This is the fourth one and the EDO5 update hasn't fixed anything it claims too. They have a note on my verizon account that if this one has problems that I'm eligible to recieve either an X2 or Inc2. But I've only had the new fascinate 2 days..
So my question is do you think it'll be safe to call even though I just received the fascinate??
Thanks
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I just received a replacement fascinate a week ago. This is the fourth one and the EDO5 update hasn't fixed anything it claims too. They have a note on my verizon account that if this one has problems that I'm eligible to recieve either an X2 or Inc2. But I've only had the new fascinate 2 days..
So my question is do you think it'll be safe to call even though I just received the fascinate??
Thanks
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Yes I would call and make sure you act really pissed off (and that shouldn't be too hard...seeing as this is your fourth fascinate with the same problem). Say that you don't appreciate being taken advantage of and that you shouldn't have to go through four of the same exact phone for those idiots to realize the thing isin't going to work. One of the reasons I tried so hard to get my fascinate replaced is because Verizon screwed me in the past with replacement phones. I had to get the same phone 5 times and they all had the same problem on them and finally when I went to get the SIXTH phone my warranty was up. (How convenient for Verizon...). So I would say that too. That your sick of the horrible customer service and don't appreciate them trying to run out your warranty so you can't do anything about it.
Well I received my battery and charger today from Verizon so I finally got to activate my Incredible. I have to say it is a very very nice phone. The UI is pretty nice and it is an overall better package than the Fascinate imho. The reason I had to wait separately for the phone and charger is because verizon didn't have the stock HTC battery and charger so they had to give me an extended battery with the backing and a new charger for free. So needless to say I am very pleased and am very happy I don't have to deal with the Fascinate horror show any longer.
Anyone have any luck with purchasing from Costco? I'm within my 90 day return policy for my HTC One X. My Costco rep said they will be selling them around/on the 10th because they are going to sell the AT&T and Verizon models at the same time. But...that's what they could have just told me.
If it was an upgrade, make sure you ask them (Costco and T-Mobile) if you're account will still be eligible for an upgrade for the SGSIII. I think their system is a lil' different with the T-Mobile system and they might not have the authorization to do it right (might lose the upgrade privilege in their system). I think I read about a similar situation here on XDA. I'm not 100% sure, but rather be safe then sorry.
That's what I'm scared of. I went there last week and asked. I said I'm having issues with my One X (which I am. Having the issue where the top right corner of the screen feels like its peeling off, because I can press it back into place), and she said if you're in your 90 days, then you're fine. She just said that I need to make sure that if I'm within those days, either get a new phone or wait till the s3 is released. But she didn't seem too confident either...
I work in a kiosk and can confirm that you can exchange the phone within the 90 days as long as you keep the contract, which since it's after 30 days you are stuck with it anyways. Since there is no contract alteration, they should simply just process the return in our own system (not AT&T's) and then swap SIM cards to send you on your way. That is how is it supposed to be done, at least. Of course it all depends on if the rep you get is either lazy or has no clue what they are doing.
Ok, it all started that I went into the store to get a replacement sim card because I was stuck on 3g. Some how my phone's prl changed when I turned on my phone. The prl was 53112 in which is 3g. Now these sim cards a suppost to be free right. They would not replace it since my phone was rooted in which it violates there policy. They would not even sell me one or replace it until I returned my phone to stock an erased my internal storage to get rid of some roms I had. They said that those files were interfering with my phone in which they did not even know what they were talking about. I argued with them for 30 mins, so I got fed up and went to best buy mobile where I originally got the phone. They gave me a new sim card and it fixed the 4g issue. I told best buy the hassle that the vzw store was giving me about being rooted. Best buy don't care if your phone was rooted. They know that people root there phones, even the guy that gave me a new sim card rooted his phone and 2 other individuals. Just beware on going to the store for a new sim card if rooted. I will never go to the store for anything. Best buy will have all my business from now on. I need to stay with vzw because of there coverage. I travel a lot.
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Ok, it all started that I went into the store to get a replacement sim card because I was stuck on 3g. Some how my phone's prl changed when I turned on my phone. The prl was 53112 in which is 3g. Now these sim cards a suppost to be free right. They would not replace it since my phone was rooted in which it violates there policy. They would not even sell me one or replace it until I returned my phone to stock an erased my internal storage to get rid of some roms I had. They said that those files were interfering with my phone in which they did not even know what they were talking about. I argued with them for 30 mins, so I got fed up and went to best buy mobile where I originally got the phone. They gave me a new sim card and it fixed the 4g issue. I told best buy the hassle that the vzw store was giving me about being rooted. Best buy don't care if your phone was rooted. They know that people root there phones, even the guy that gave me a new sim card rooted his phone and 2 other individuals. Just beware on going to the store for a new sim card if rooted. I will never go to the store for anything. Best buy will have all my business from now on. I wish my contracts were up, but I need to stay with vzw because of there coverage. I travel a lot.
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Verizon is a joke. Thankfully, I got a new sim card without them knowing my Razr HD was rooted and unlocked
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Ok, it all started that I went into the store to get a replacement sim card because I was stuck on 3g. Some how my phone's prl changed when I turned on my phone. The prl was 53112 in which is 3g. Now these sim cards a suppost to be free right. They would not replace it since my phone was rooted in which it violates there policy. They would not even sell me one or replace it until I returned my phone to stock an erased my internal storage to get rid of some roms I had. They said that those files were interfering with my phone in which they did not even know what they were talking about. I argued with them for 30 mins, so I got fed up and went to best buy mobile where I originally got the phone. They gave me a new sim card and it fixed the 4g issue. I told best buy the hassle that the vzw store was giving me about being rooted. Best buy don't care if your phone was rooted. They know that people root there phones, even the guy that gave me a new sim card rooted his phone and 2 other individuals. Just beware on going to the store for a new sim card if rooted. I will never go to the store for anything. Best buy will have all my business from now on. I wish my contracts were up, but I need to stay with vzw because of there coverage. I travel a lot.
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I would have told them to cancel my service and buy the phone back from me because they won't make it work on their network.
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Ok, it all started that I went into the store to get a replacement sim card because I was stuck on 3g. Some how my phone's prl changed when I turned on my phone. The prl was 53112 in which is 3g. Now these sim cards a suppost to be free right. They would not replace it since my phone was rooted in which it violates there policy. They would not even sell me one or replace it until I returned my phone to stock an erased my internal storage to get rid of some roms I had. They said that those files were interfering with my phone in which they did not even know what they were talking about. I argued with them for 30 mins, so I got fed up and went to best buy mobile where I originally got the phone. They gave me a new sim card and it fixed the 4g issue. I told best buy the hassle that the vzw store was giving me about being rooted. Best buy don't care if your phone was rooted. They know that people root there phones, even the guy that gave me a new sim card rooted his phone and 2 other individuals. Just beware on going to the store for a new sim card if rooted. I will never go to the store for anything. Best buy will have all my business from now on. I wish my contracts were up, but I need to stay with vzw because of there coverage. I travel a lot.
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the thing about this is, you knew the risks when you rooted, and you still did it...the vzw rep didn't do anything but enforce the rules to which you agreed when you signed on the dotted line, the reason the bbm rep didn't care was because he doesn't work for verizon, he works for best buy...i'm lucky enough to live near a vzw store where they don't care if you're rooted or not, and will even talk to you about rooting and what can/can't be accomplished...but as it is, this is the exception, not the rule...i'm failing to see where the vzw rep you encountered was wrong...if you didn't like the rules, you shouldn't have signed on the dotted line(btw, i'm rooted, unlocked and running a custom rom...but if something were screwed up on my phone, i'd have figured it out before i did any of this so that i could have a 100% working phone before i went in and changed things) you can call me crazy, you can call me stupid, but i'm not the one complaining about knowing the rules and breaking the rules and then when the powers that be get wind of it they refuse to help me
Yeah, it really sucks since something as trivial as a sim card should not matter. However, on principle I have to agree with Verizon as well.
The reps don't have to be technical. They don't need to be convinced. All they have to do is enforce the rules that apply to everyone.
Trust me, I'm typically the LAST person to side with a big company lol
i hate large corporations, and silly rules and laws, but if you know the rules, and agreed to the rules by signing on the dotted line, you have no one to blame but yourself when you break the rules and things go bad for you...as i said, i'm rooted, unlocked and running a custom rom, if i change something and it bricks my phone guess what? i'm out of a phone until my upgrade. i don't expect verizon or anyone else to fix my screw up.
The only reason I'm keeping up with my $6/mo insurance is in case my $400 investment is ever lost or stolen
-- Android: It's a UNIX thing. You wouldn't understand.
Ridiculous! I had my gnex rooted and rommed for the gods and had many issues causing the need for a new sim. Not once did they complain.
Now if it was technical support you were dealing with then I could understand VZW completely. Or sending your phone in for repair replacement, insurance, etc.
They are becoming tighter and tighter doing anything to make a buck. They know they have the best coverage and will continue to hit my wallet until it's cashed.
I think their financing for phones is great for those who want an upgrade but don't have any other way.
If this happens again don't go to best buy. I would call corporate and maybe see if they have some sort of a retentions department to get compensated for your trouble.
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Ridiculous! I had my gnex rooted and rommed for the gods and had many issues causing the need for a new sim. Not once did they complain.
Now if it was technical support you were dealing with then I could understand VZW completely. Or sending your phone in for repair replacement, insurance, etc.
They are becoming tighter and tighter doing anything to make a buck. They know they have the best coverage and will continue to hit my wallet until it's cashed.
I think their financing for phones is great for those who want an upgrade but don't have any other way.
If this happens again don't go to best buy. I would call corporate and maybe see if they have some sort of a retentions department to get compensated for your trouble.
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i can see it now "verizon wireless customer support, how may i help you?!" "yes, i broke the rules to which i agreed, and rooted my phone, unlocked the bootloader, and put a custom rom on my phone...and i did something wrong, and now my phone won't boot up...if you don't give me a replacement i'm going to jump ship and go to at&t" and what hte rep won't say is "oh...you'll leave if we don't give you a phone because you broke the rules and now it won't work? well here's your new device that you, yourself screwed up, and will probably screw up again and make us send you a new one" what they will say is "well, since you broke the rules to which you agreed, it'll be 599 for that new phone. oh, and if you decide you're going to jump ship to at&t that'll be 350 dollars for an early termination fee as well, have a good day"
lol when I saw the title I figured VZW screwed up like they did for me. Just prior to our upgrade I called and asked Customer Service for extra minuets because we were upgrading in a week(I asked the rep in store when looking at phones but she said call CS). The rep said "you have 100 Hurricane sandy relief minuets." Good enough..
Week later, my gf and I go in to the store and upgrade! She got an iPhone 5. I told her check it for scratch marks when the tech activated it and handed it to her. Sure enough, she pulled the protective covers off the front and back and it was scratched on the back. Well the idiot rep who upgraded us put both upgrade fees on one line. So it took 30 min or longer to get her new phone activated because they could not figure out how to cancel the previous activation/transaction because of the way he did the upgrade fees on one line!
Fast forward to the first bill. I think it was like $400 or $500. It was to high either way! Well first off we were billed a month in advance. I realize this is standard, but imo the rep should have reminded us. Typically we upgrade every ~2 years so the least VZW, ATT or any other company can do is remind you. So that explains PART of it. Here is the icing on the cake, we were billed for a voice overage because the rep who told us we had 100 Hurricane Sandy min left was in a third party over flow call center and was not authorized to tell us that we could tap in to those min. So we went over by close to 100 min. What the store rep did not tell us when we upgraded was the new share everything plan would be prorated since we were shy of our bill date by like a week. Since he did not tell us, we made the most of that week and used up almost 4GB of LTE bandwidth. So we were charged a data overage as well.
So when I call CS, the rep says he would knock off the voice overage since it was higher. However, he tried to charge us for the data still. After arguing he agreed to knock it in half. Finally after arguing more, he finally agreed to knock it off completely. to make up for all the trouble he has issued credit for both over ages and he is going to pitch in 3 accessories. I told him I was not interested in the accessories. He pushes them again at a discount price. Again, I said not interested. After further discussion he said the accessories were free and we still had credit left over plus the overage fees were wiped out. Free accessories? Why the hell not?! So I get off the phone thing everything is great and he hooked us up..
When I get my holster/kickstand case it won't fit. So I take it to a VZW third party store to see if they can get it on. He tries and then says it's bent. Call CS and they should send a new one free of charge. I call CS and they set me up a return label.After further discussion it turns out the accessories were billed to the account. I said forget this, I never asked for them. Send me a label and I will return them all rather then be charged! So she does just that.
I get the label, and ship everything back in the original packaging. Hell my gf's pos bumper case wasn't even opened because she didn't like it. I spent 2 months dealing with 10 CS agents who filled out a total of 3 "ITTS tickets." Turns out ITTS Tickets are for tracking the damn package if it is lost in transit. I told them the tracking showed it was in the warehouse in Texas since such and such date! One of the reps was a total moron. I questioned her like 5-10 min in to the convo and said look, other then accessory charges, are there any charges on the account. We go back and forth, calmly, for 45 min about late fee for this, late fee for that, fee for this, fee for that, and each time I have to say no, that was taken care of, and shes would be like oh..you're right. So 45 min in she says, well ok, can you log in to MyVZW? I said sure, and sat down at the comp. I log in, and she says you see this or that, and I am like yeah, it says credit this, or credit that. So finally I said "look besides the accessories fees, is there any other charges on the account." This time she has no choice but to say no..45 mins of bs she didn't know what she was talking about. I requested a supervisor. Waited 20 min for a supervisor. Finally she offers to have the supervisor call me back. I should have known better but I said ok..yeah no call back ever happened.
Another night I finally ask for a supervisor. This guy was far from supervisor material. The second he picekd up the phone he was trying to talk over the agent while she was getting off the line.He kept interrupting me and talking over me.I called him out on it at one point, and he said I am not talking over you or interrupting you. The next time I am talking, he does just that. Interrupts me and starts talking over me. I said I thought you said you weren't interrupting me or talking over me? I forgot what he said but he knew he was caught red handed. We went around a little bit and he finally hangs up on me for trying to stop him from babbling on about something that didn't matter.
Finally, I get some one who knows what they are doing. She did a "defill ticket" which goes to the warehouse and asks what is going on with the package and why no refund was issued. Of course she has to call me back as it takes a day or two to get an answer. She finally calls me back, and says that supposedly the accessories were not in the case! BS! One was never opened! She said she talked to her manager and because of everything I went through, they would refund me half price. I argued about how I knew one accessory, the bumper case was not even opened. I threatened to cancel service, but did no good. At this point I just wrapped it up and thanked her for her time as she did do more then any one else had. I called back a few days later and asked how much it costs to cancel service and explained what I been through over the past 2 months/10 agents later. She asks if she refunds the rest of the cost if we will stay on VZW. I think I said I would consider it, and in the end she credited the rest of the charges. We stayed with VZW but I will never trust them at their word again. The remainder of the contract is going to determine if we stay or go when it's time for a new contract. Depending on finances we may buy unsubsidized, but you want a VZW sucks story, there ya go. Can't say I feel sorry for you and your sim card situation.
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i can see it now "verizon wireless customer support, how may i help you?!" "yes, i broke the rules to which i agreed, and rooted my phone, unlocked the bootloader, and put a custom rom on my phone...and i did something wrong, and now my phone won't boot up...if you don't give me a replacement i'm going to jump ship and go to at&t" and what hte rep won't say is "oh...you'll leave if we don't give you a phone because you broke the rules and now it won't work? well here's your new device that you, yourself screwed up, and will probably screw up again and make us send you a new one" what they will say is "well, since you broke the rules to which you agreed, it'll be 599 for that new phone. oh, and if you decide you're going to jump ship to at&t that'll be 350 dollars for an early termination fee as well, have a good day"
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Hmm actually my issues were unrelated to any modifications made to my phone and we're part of the reason Verizon decided to change how they provision their sim cards... But thanks for the input bud.
If I ever wanted to leave Verizon I would do an AOL as I have unlimited data on two lines.
Verizon likes the developer community for the most part. Can you imagine how much money they save on technical support?
I'm sure there are some who don't mod but are so smart they wouldn't dream of dialing 611...but I think the majority is different.
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Xplorer4x4 you need to call the better business bureau. Verizon has cs issues sometimes. Best thing to do next time is keep calling back until you get someone understanding on the line.
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Hmm actually my issues were unrelated to any modifications made to my phone and we're part of the reason Verizon decided to change how they provision their sim cards... But thanks for the input bud.
If I ever wanted to leave Verizon I would do an AOL as I have unlimited data on two lines.
Verizon likes the developer community for the most part. Can you imagine how much money they save on technical support?
I'm sure there are some who don't mod but are so smart they wouldn't dream of dialing 611...but I think the majority is different.
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Xplorer4x4 you need to call the better business bureau. Verizon has cs issues sometimes. Best thing to do next time is keep calling back until you get someone understanding on the line.
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if you root your phone it voids the warranty...you signed on the dotted line, you rooted, you had your phone screw up(whether or not it was because you rooted is moot)...your problem, not vzws
Here is something you need to remember. Reps in stores deal with people that have no clue what they are doing all the time. Flashing ROMs incorrectly, incorrect radios, kernels, etc can and do cause service issues. If you think that a rep is going to chase their tail around when they have no clue if you know what you are doing or not then you are wrong, especially if they have no clue what they are doing when it comes to development. Troubleshooting a device that is stock is one thing, the uncontrolled variable of your non-stock ROM is another. That being said, had you came into my location you would have gotten a SIM and been on your way. If you were still locked on 3G then that would have been the end of the troubleshooting I had for you until the phone was back to stock. It is easy to point the finger and talk about how bad people "suck", but take a second to look at it through eyes other than your own.