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Is the end of Nexus inevitable? Silver Line to come soon..... Discussion

Hi there
We all must be hearing a lot of rumors about the end of Nexus Line by Google and Launch of Silver in upcoming year, by 2015 according to sources!
Well, according to my knowledge, the Nexus was introduced to increase the number of phones/tablets running Android in fast growing market which was dominated by Ipad/Iphone. As Google earns its 97% of profit due to advertisements, it was inevitable that if Google can increase the number of devices used, it would certainly mean more profit due to coaxing more users to its services and advertisement. This meant that although Google made some profit on Nexus devices but its main aim was to increase the android devices using Google Services like Youtube, Gmail, Google+.
Also, it was a way to provide "pure android experience" to the users free from all freezing which was mostly due to customization of android by different manufacturers.
Devices in the Nexus line do not have manufacturer or wireless carrier modifications to Android (such as custom graphical user interfaces), and have an unlockable bootloader to allow further development and end-user modification.Nexus devices are the first Android devices to receive updates to the operating system and recommended by the Android Open Source Project for Android software development.
PROJECT SILVER
Silver line basically is a way to control Samsung influence by Google. The concept is that if a device fulfills certain hardware and software criterias, they would be labelled as SILVER. The Google would ensure that these devices are first to be updated as Google would itself provide the expertise required in development of the android software. Not just that, Google would also give some subsidies which would ensure that if a developer wants a device to be silver, it would be earning more profit than a non silver device. The silver devices would also be kept in special cases in shops to attract more customers. It would also mean that any manufacturer around the world can take part in Silver project and the domination of Samsung, Sony, LG, HTC, Motorola and other big manufacturers would be directly challenged by Google.
This means we would be seeing phones which would be top-notch from small manufactures like MI (XIAOMI), OPPO.
In this regard, Google would also ensure that its services are kept while custom services provided by the manufacturer are kept to minimum!
Now the Google already has a big share in the market by Android's influence and thus it can still earn its profits by advertisement which is about 97%. Thus it does not need to put more nexus devices out there as it is directly challenged by Samsung. Now the competition has begun within Android itself which was with other OS before. The introduction of TIZEN by Samsung is a direct challenge to Android. Tizen's biggest strength in my opinion is that if you programme an app in tizen, you can use the same app in IOS , android and other platforms by just changing very little code!
The only thing I am not sure about is the price of Silver Devices. I am sure there would a tough competition but would that mean we would get the devices as cheap as Nexus line. We can not be sure as it could happen. Suppose the latest Oppo phone is labelled as silver and is selling for 300$, other manufacturers would be forced to keep their price down as nothing separates two Silver devices but we can not be sure as i mentioned before!
WHY I PREFER A NEXUS
I prefer Nexus devices over all others, not due to their development friendly nature but also they provide quick updates, top notch specifications at a very reasonable price.
Plus, Nexus devices are certain to get all CUSTOM ROMS and development is very quick compared to many other devices!
They also keep manufacturers to keep their price in check and they give you a pure android experience which I am not sure Project Silver can promise.
I just hope the Nexus line is always kept by Google. If they can keep on releasing one phone (4.7 inch) and two tablets ( 8 and 10) every year at least with their Silver Project and see if more consumers prefer Silver or Nexus and leave the choice to the consumers!
What do you prefer and give your reasons why you think it would be a good thing or a bad thing if Google gives up Nexus and starts Silver Project?
Update: Nexus is going to stay!! Hip Hip Hooray!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...ay-but-Android-Silver-is-in-the-works_id57593

If affordability isn't hit I find no problem with silver program. But I don't think it wouldn't.
At least we will have motorola.

I don't know what others think but Nexus, Samsung and Apple is ending for me, Mipad (Xiaomi) is winning my heart.

This is good since the Nexus line isn't priced fairly world wide. A 16GB Nexus 5 cost like 550 USD in my country (Indonesia) and there's no 32GB version avaliable.
However, the Silver Line shouldn't just apply to high end phones, it should apply to all Android device if this project is to be fair.
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maidangisme said:
I don't know what others think but Nexus, Samsung and Apple is ending for me, Mipad (Xiaomi) is winning my heart.
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All MI products is taking my breath away with its awesome UI, price and hardware !

For now I'm not sure. Not all details about the silver platform are known. I wouldn't have a problem with GPE like devices sold as the Silver line. The downfall will come with the, probably, increased prices of the Silver devices. At least that would be a huge let down for me.
Hopefully companies as Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and Motorola can fill the gap for high performance devices with a attractive price tag.

RichJo86 said:
Hopefully companies as Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and Motorola can fill the gap for high performance devices with a attractive price tag.
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Xiaomi already did : Phone -MI2 and MI3, up coming Mipad.
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AnyRom said:
Xiaomi already did : Phone -MI2 and MI3, up coming Mipad.
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True, but if the devices are not in stock... hopefully they can find a way to keep up with the demand.
The Mi3 64GB is only recently in stock if I'm correct, only the 16GB version was sold it small batches.

My problem with this silver program is that price will surely not be nexus levels and I doubt these silver edition phones will have the freedom that nexuses have. Just like Dev editions.... most of which still have restrictions you don't see on a nexus. Example, flashing any bootloader you want, no matter what version.
So I'm not very excited about this potential new direction.
Also, it will split up the current nexus community over multiple devices.

I see silver as mostly good and I am hoping this could put pressure on OEMS to update their phones in a truly timely manner. If this happens I would jump right back on the note bandwagon. I mostly curse touchwiz but they did integrate TW very nicely with the note series...I miss my spen
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I doubt the line will change much, likely just a branding change to help morons who think the Droid phone is the benchmark android phone.

Some kind of new standards are needed because of new device types. Nexus was fine for Android, but now there are Chromecast, Thermostats, and who knows what is next. I think something new like Silver does not necessarily mean dropping Nexus style devices.
So far I'm pretty pleased with Google sponsored devices, both Nexus and Play Edition. I am interested in a tablet larger than Nexus 7 (2013) and I think a new Nexus-or-Play Edition phone on Verizon is needed too.
But, wait and see.:good:

Bob Smith42 said:
Some kind of new standards are needed because of new device types. Nexus was fine for Android, but now there are Chromecast, Thermostats, and who knows what is next. I think something new like Silver does not necessarily mean dropping Nexus style devices.
So far I'm pretty pleased with Google sponsored devices, both Nexus and Play Edition. I am interested in a tablet larger than Nexus 7 (2013) and I think a new Nexus-or-Play Edition phone on Verizon is needed too.
But, wait and see.:good:
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Well for most of us in Europe/ US , we usually take up contracts ! Like I can get an S5 with 2 year contract with free phone/calls/texts/Data for about £45 a month! Usually this is not a case for many others around the world, they have to pay in FULL which makes Nexus price more attractive than Play Editions!
Moreover, the price difference between Nexus and Play Edition is about 150-250 dollars which is a lot . . .

I want new a 10" tablet. Whether it's the silver program or final nexus tablet before silver program
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Duffmantp said:
I want new a 10" tablet. Whether it's the silver program or final nexus tablet before silver program
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We might get one. It is rumoured in upcoming Google I/O 2014
Source phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/You-...-showing-the-Nexus-10-not-the-Nexus-8_id56512
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phonearena edited the post and dismissed a new nexus 10.

Hnk1 said:
We might get one. It is rumoured in upcoming Google I/O 2014
Source phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/You-...-showing-the-Nexus-10-not-the-Nexus-8_id56512
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They were talking about the old nexus 10 in the photo, not a new one.

madbat99 said:
They were talking about the old nexus 10 in the photo, not a new one.
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Cheers for the correction, there were so many rumours involving a Google nexus 8 and 10 that I'm still confused

I'm still hoping for a nexus 8. My niece would love my n7 2013 and a n8 would be the perfect excuse for me to pass it to her and get one.

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I doubt the line will change much, likely just a branding change to help morons who think the Droid phone is the benchmark android phone.
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same :/

Maybe not a very exciting answer, but where tech is concerned (and all the rumours that precede any new product) I am a "I'll wait and see" kind of guy. Also, I see no real reason to rush out and buy the latest and greatest all the time what I have is serving its purpose

No more Nexus phones! Is it true? Do you guys have more info in this?

I don't trust Android Central reports much. But I don't like this....
http://www.androidcentral.com/end-nexus-2016-google-phones-forge-new-path

I'm fairly certain it is true. Way before, months back, this was a rumor. They aren't exactly killing the Nexus phones but they are killing the name itself. This seems to be true because early leaks of the Sailfish and Marlin had ZERO NEXUS LOGOS on them. Each leak just had a simple "G" on the lower back like where apple brands their phones. Google is certainly going for profit increase here. Think about it, 9 times outta 10 someone says hey what phone do you have and I say Nexus 6P, they've never heard of it. I've literally never had one person who knew what my Nexus 6P was and the next thing they always say is "WTF, Google makes phone and has cell service now??!!" It never fails. Point is, people would be more willing to buy from a company they know like Google than some off brand dubbed "Nexus" therefore, it makes sense to rename their phones the "Google Whatever". I'm sure they'll get more profits.
The only line of thinking I don't like that they're using are the premium price tags. Apparently these phones will be much more expensive than last years 6P and 5X, even for same storage capacities. This is probably mainly due to HTC though, one of the (if not the most) stupidest OEMS when it come to phone pricing.

its nothing to get worked up about, its just a rebranding

are the current nexus phones like our 6p getting the same software though?

If I interpret it right, things are turning more towards closed source for the nexus device. Expect to see some proprietary features...
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It seems Stock Android is beeing ditched too. Welcome to the bloated Google phones (Hope i am wrong)

Nexus 6P vs Pixel XL

Hey guys, how you all doing?
Just wanted to know your opinion. Currently I am a phoneless guy since my Nexus 5 died a few days ago and since I gave up on the ZTE Axon 7 due to the lack of support from ZTE to the mod community. I am really, really, really eager to finally see what Google is up with the new Pixel phones. Some rumors say that it will be a tough phone to root and mod due to the two partitions for seamless updates and the startup check, etc, etc. That is worrying me a bit. But, since I am a bit desperate to get a new phone, the wait is just cruel, unbearable, excruciating! Yesterday I came across the Nexus 6P, the 128GB version to be more specific, at Amazon. Taking the Nexus 5 as reference, I know that I can rely on the support from the mod community to always have new and updated stuff, since we are talking of a phone that was launched just one year ago. SO, what would you do? Buy a consolidated phone that is the Nexus 6P with tons and tons of mods available, or wait for the Pixel XL?
Sorry for the long text!
Regards!

i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!

rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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I am with Rusty. They said the same thing with iPhone jailbreak (root), Samsung's KNOX, SELinux, locked bootloaders, crazy EEPROM chips, Nexus 6P qfuse, etc...

rusty-ragster said:
i would wait for the pixel xl especially now as the release draws closer. the nexus 6p is no doubt the best nexus ever made IMO but the pixel may very well be better. about modding, android has went through many changes that appeared as the death of the developer community but the ever so skillful and dedicated devs here at XDA always seem to find a loophole. it may take time, but eventually, root will be achieved!
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Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.

Here is mY 2 cents. I literally know nothing about the new pixel phone as I have no interest in getting it. The only thing I do know that I could suggest is number one HTC is a dying company and I believe that's who makes the phone. It seems to be a love-hate relationship depending on who you talk to but in my opinion they make some of the worst phones available. Number 2 the pixel phone is going to be close to $700 where as the 6p is now selling for under three hundred depending on where you go which is a gigantic difference in price. Again I don't know the specs the ins and the outs of the new pixel phone however a $400 price difference and the name HTC would lead me to say go with the 6p. Remember how well the last HTC Nexus device when? Probably not cuz it was basically a pos that nobody gave a damn about
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Well I know I'm loving 6p big time after finally being able to get one a couple of weeks ago. It's the gold 64gb one and wow, what a phone that will be hard to beat. I'm working twelves and the phone makes it through the whole shift with ghostpepper profile applied. Anyway like previous post what a deal and for the price of pixel, what a steal. Good luck and thank you.

tech_head said:
Huh?
Root on a Pixel or Nexus device?
Unlock the bootloader and flash?
That is the one advantage that has always existed on Google/Nexus devices.
If the bootloader is unlockable, then root is pedestrian at best.
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indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.

Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!

rusty-ragster said:
indeed, but there was an article on the portal about the changes regarding rooting the pixel based on the new partition scheming due to the seamless updates.
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Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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gibawatts said:
Yes guys, I did it! Got a brand new 128GB for 405 euros. Eagerly waiting!
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Where??

ludovicien said:
Where??
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German Amazon

Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.

ludovicien said:
Seller has 0% positive ratings after 5 transactions. Brave. Good luck.
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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=

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Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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Great deal, Congratz! Enjoy your Nexus6 P.

Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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It's not harder just a new layout. Chain fire will have it working in no time. Don't sweat it.

Shaftamle said:
Isint it great. Google takes what is supposed to be a dev phone and makes it harder to root for what???? Seamless what???? What a load of crap. Who cars about seamless updates. They ate really frustrating sometimes.
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i know man seems like google is bringing the nexus out of the dev phone spectrum and is targeting it towards the average consumer now with all of this new pixel branding and stuff i don't understand why though as it took them a long time to make the nexus brand popular and now they are ditching it when it's better than it ever was. :/

gibawatts said:
Not the one I bought from https://www.amazon.de/gp/aag/main?i...otocol=current&seller=AQWIDFUD8W0EH&sshmPath=
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1.8 rating dude...

I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.

gorman42 said:
I just got a €390 128GB Nexus 6P, new. On ebay from a guy who bought it and had a problem. While he waited for the substitution from Google he bought a different phone and wanted to cash back as soon as possible. I was suspicious but the phone arrived in the box, completely sealed and everything was legit. Sometimes you get lucky (and considering I needed it to substitute my Note 3 who got destroyed in a fall, Spigen case and tempered glass protector notwithstanding... I sort of deserved it).
Pixel XL doesn't convince me. Smaller screen first of all. With screens it's relatively easy to go bigger... but going smaller? Not for me.
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Yes, some times you get lucky. I didn't! I started asking questions and out of the blue I received an email from Amazon telling me that the guy canceled the the sell because he didn't have the phone . So I promptly bought a 64GB that is fullfiled by amazon, of course.

Got mine less than a month ago. 390 Euros .. the 64Gb version all bran new.
I don't think it's worth paying 700$ for the Pixel XL for the 32Gb version. Didn't see anything worth wasting money on. No major hardware changes that will make that a good deal.

[Discussion] Android 7.1 with witch Features for Nexus?

Hey dudes,
yesterday we have seen the new Android 7.1 Nugat on the new Pixel Smartphones. Whitch features will come to the Nexus Device? Will we only have the new Google Assistent? Or could we get the new Fingerprint Sensor Controlls and Nightshift?
I hope we will see some features for our Nexus Devices. Nexus 5X and 6P are quite good Devices and I hope Google don´t forget this.
Chris.K

According to Android Police, we're supposed to be getting fingerprint gestures in 7.1 alongside Pixel phones.
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Google is laughting at nexus users. Enjoy the Developer preview nexus program to only improve and update the pixels.

I feel Google have walked out the door and slammed it in our faces a little.
Nexus is the red headed stepchild now, pixel is the darling child with a pony.
Give pixel users the support, services bonuses (photos etc) and hardware specific things but Nexus users should get all the software benefits the same inc assistant, launcher buttons and so on and timely updates. We understand they've moved on but a lot of their customers that chose Nexus specifically are still locked into a contract for another 1-2 years and so will be left pining for their attention.
Waiting for an unspecified time in the next 3 months for a developer preview of something the pixel phones have is not a good view of the future.

The Nexus Line won't get the Google Assistent!
Here is a new leak From Android Police.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-pixel-exclusive-non-pixel-exclusive-changes/

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The Nexus Line won't get the Google Assistent!
Here is a new leak From Android Police.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-pixel-exclusive-non-pixel-exclusive-changes/
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I am sure this is different for everyone, but the "exclusive" ones I would care about are Smart Storage, Hardware HDR+, and EIS (you can get EIS via customization on current 5x but it is nice to have it supported and easily enabled)

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Pixel product-specific:
-Pixel Launcher - swipe up for all apps, new Search Box, date/weather header on home
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I hope someone will Port the Pixel Rom to Nexus 5X/Nexus 6P.

You know, for the longest time I have been thinking that iPhone loyalists were some of the most jaded people on the planet. Then Google came and pulled this out and now I KNOW that Nexus fanboys are right there in that same category. Bunch of whiny babies. They killed the Nexus line because it's purpose has run it's course. They release a NEW line of devices that's aimed at the mass market of consumers (like Samsung, iPhone, HTC, LG, etc. owners) and everyone loses their minds because their favorite toy has come to an end. The Pixel line is an EVOLUTION of the Nexus line, not just a replacement. It's been what they've been building towards since the OG Nexus One. Of course you're not gonna get the same features.
Then everybody wants to ***** about being "left behind" with these updates. When you buy a Nexus, you're guarenteed OS support for up to two years. Guess what? You're STILL getting updates for up to two years. So what, you're salty that you're no longer getting the update first? Too bad. The game changed with the Pixel devices, so get used to it. It's the SUCCESSOR to the Nexus line. If you don't like it, jump ship. You won't be missed. And Google isn't going to lose money over it.
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I'm just hoping that Pixel Launcher will be available. Space for photos would be nice as well, but besides that i'm gonna be just fine. XD

Pixel Launcher is available. The Round Icons come with Android 7.1. I'm just hoping, that we will get the Google Assistant.

"Pixel Launcher is available." Well.. Yes and no. I mean officially like Google Now Launcher

I just buy this mobile phone for 2 weeks ago. I was so thrilled for gesture of finger print and now? Oh my god,
Previous year i bought lg g3 i was like little kid: "omg nice phone oh Lg is great company i will get a new feature in next version of android nice " i says in my mind, but no Qualcomm says we couldn't developed drivers for snapdragon 801 for android 7.0 and gues what? That Why I buy nexus phone. For Next time maybe i will by iphone one, im not fan of apple but what about theirs support? All iphone from iphone 5 since iphone 7 get ios10.0 with same features.... Sorry about that im writing about apple. And sorry for my English im not good in languages.
EDIT: When i was bought nexus I don't knew about pixel phone, maybe its my bad luck

Pixel Launcher, Google Assistant, unlimited photo/vídeo backup and smart storage. Why make this exclusive features to Pixel Phones? These things are possible to put in any phone, hardware limitations are not the problem in this case. If they do this to sell Pixels, what a big failure? I wouldn't buy a phone for this features. Hope they revert their stupid decision and add it to Nexus phones.
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I understand the brand building and making Pixel unique with added value. What I don't understand is abandoning the Nexus line. And abandoning the developer phone concept.
It's like they abandon the developer community in sone way.
People here contributed the google experience through android with many-many ideas. Also many developers use nexus devices to test their product at the first place.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there opens a gap that needs to be filled.
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Looks like we WILL be getting the fingerprint gestures for the notification shade!
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/07/the-pixels-release-doesn-t-mean-your-nexus-is-completely-toast/
"The update will also enable Moves: an opt-in gesture-based feature that will open or close the notifications slider."
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Oblox said:
We understand they've moved on but a lot of their customers that chose Nexus specifically are still locked into a contract for another 1-2 years and so will be left pining for their attention.
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Locked into what contract? That is a consumer decision, not a Google one.
I didn't get my Nexus from a carrier, no contract, paid for it up front. Works just fine on the same carrier of the phone I replaced it with still sitting in a box as a backup emergency phone.
If I want to spend $649+ for a new phone in a few weeks, then I just get it.
That is a lot of money though... right now everything is on hold as the status of root is, but that is a different decision and issue.
Why is that Googles issue? If people can't afford it, they won't buy it.

krelvinaz said:
Locked into what contract? That is a consumer decision, not a Google one.
I didn't get my Nexus from a carrier, no contract, paid for it up front. Works just fine on the same carrier of the phone I replaced it with still sitting in a box as a backup emergency phone.
If I want to spend $649+ for a new phone in a few weeks, then I just get it.
That is a lot of money though... right now everything is on hold as the status of root is, but that is a different decision and issue.
Why is that Googles issue? If people can't afford it, they won't buy it.
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I think that he meant plan-wise. I'm still locked to my contract too, but I bought my N5X straight up when it was released last year.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-features-that-Nexus-will-NOT-get_id86189 -they said this is official but you never know

How do you all figure nexus is abandoned?! We were promised our updates and we will receive them! Why are so many people crying because google changed the name of the phone?!?! Abandoned is such a strong word and thats a far fetch from whsts happening. We will get our promised updates im so sick of seeing these posts all over xda and g plus! Omfg

iamterence said:
You know, for the longest time I have been thinking that iPhone loyalists were some of the most jaded people on the planet. Then Google came and pulled this out and now I KNOW that Nexus fanboys are right there in that same category. Bunch of whiny babies. They killed the Nexus line because it's purpose has run it's course. They release a NEW line of devices that's aimed at the mass market of consumers (like Samsung, iPhone, HTC, LG, etc. owners) and everyone loses their minds because their favorite toy has come to an end. The Pixel line is an EVOLUTION of the Nexus line, not just a replacement. It's been what they've been building towards since the OG Nexus One. Of course you're not gonna get the same features.
Then everybody wants to ***** about being "left behind" with these updates. When you buy a Nexus, you're guarenteed OS support for up to two years. Guess what? You're STILL getting updates for up to two years. So what, you're salty that you're no longer getting the update first? Too bad. The game changed with the Pixel devices, so get used to it. It's the SUCCESSOR to the Nexus line. If you don't like it, jump ship. You won't be missed. And Google isn't going to lose money over it.
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Sit down Terrance - I just bought another 5x 3 weeks ago and the ad didnt say "support for 2 years" it said "get the latest and greatest first"
Instead what I am going to get is akin to a Samsung Galaxy product with a to be determined watered down version at some point in the future. The Pixel and Pixel Xl aren't successors, they are 5X+ and 6P+ in a new body with software the only defining feature of mention and the doubling of the price, that's the very definition of a screwing
Nice try with the "run it's course" - the pixel phones serve the exact same purpose as the nexus phones - to highlight android or presumably the soon to be ultimate fckfest, andromeda, which will probably burn the pixel owners, assuming those phones even last that long or it's just Moto Gooogle phone v2

[DISCUSSION] Google Pixel/XL from a Developer Point of View

Hi developers,
I wonder how to handle the new Pixel phones from a developer point of view.
The last couple of years, I always used at least one nexus device (starting with a Nexus S) with the latest Android version as a development device. I often used it as a kind of benchmark/ base line, like "if it is working on the stock nexus device, and not on your device with the same android version, your manufacturer firmware or custom rom has a bug". Sure this does not mean I would not test with the most popular devices/ roms or implement some extra workarounds for these devices, but with so many different devices and roms the nexus device with "stock/pure android" was always my reference how it should work.
I don´t care about the price, tech spec or the look of the Pixel device, but I wonder how to handle "pixel exclusive" features ...and also the pixel exclusive bugs.
From my point of view, Pixel devices will not be the "stock/pure Android" reference, like the nexus device. Ok, nexus devices also did not cover all stock android features (like the IR api or even the SD card feature) but, at least, they did not contain any extra non stock features .....
So to make it short: How would you, with the alleged end of the nexus devices in mind, handle the Pixel devices from your developer point of view ?

I'm mainly considering getting this because I'm hoping development for it will be well supported. Surely this will be the baseline android with a few extra apps?

I'm a bit pessimistic about the developer support this phone will end up receiving, in comparison with past Nexus devices. The reason for this is that top developers can't usually go buy every phone that comes out, in order to develop for them. So they often rely on donations for others to chip in to greatly offset the cost of purchasing the phones for development.
In this case, the price is much greater than it was with the Nexus phones so it will likely require greater donations to get the Pixel and Pixel XL into the hands of our favorite developers. This may be a limiting factor with how much development this phone actually sees. Of course, I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully some of the top developers will love the phone enough to jump on one or that they can get enough donations to pick one up.
Either way, time will tell.

I did think that. I'm still not sure what to do, pre order or wait and see. I've been looking at the oneplus3 but as I'm on a OnePlus 2 the support isn't huge for the development side of things compared to the old nexus devices which is what I always had

yep, I think I will have to wait and see ... if the Pixel becomes a top seller AND is the next best thing to a "pure android" device, I will surely use it as my new android development device .... otherwise I don´t know

The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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tacosrdelicioso said:
The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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I think the reason for that is most of the Android junkies (like us) tend to flock to the bigger devices since they spend so much time on them. Lately, I've found myself in the minority when I say that I sold my Nexus 6P simply because it was too big. I even find the OnePlus 3 to be slightly too big for me. And since the Pixel XL is just a smidge bigger than the OnePlus 3, I just can't go that route. But most others are going to go for the bigger device, I think.
The good news is that since the Pixel and Pixel XL are identical aside from the size, development for one should port to the regular Pixel (and vice versa) with relative ease.

I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release

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I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release
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Lol, shower videos.
That is all.

Buy an unlockable model and it should be no different than any other model.

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