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Looks like the next Nexus device may be a Motorola!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...cash/2011/08/15/gIQAR7BgGJ_story.html?hpid=z1

Maybe after the prime... It takes at least a year to develop a new phone.

Maybe secret planning already in the works for sometime. This may not be a bad move for Android as a whole. Personally I think it is great news.

Patent portfolio windfall.
That is all.

I am actually looking forward to the implications this may have. Google will be able to have a direct say in more phones than just the Nexus series. Things like NFC will be able to become more prominent. And I hope that the unlocked bootloaders that Motorola promised and that the Nexus series sports will become an industry standard for Android phones (it slowly looks like this may already be happening).
But, I do hope that this doesn't exclude other manufacturers from participating in the Nexus program. I loved the fact that Google wasn't tied to one specific manufacturer. I really hope that will continue.

Google / Motorola Deal Doesn’t Guarantee a “Nexus Droid”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...-nexus-droid/2011/08/15/gIQAHJU3GJ_story.html

efrant said:
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Thank goodness, I want the next Nexus, but really don't want a Motorola. I haven't liked any of their android offerings.

Thank goodness, I want the next Nexus, but really don't want a Motorola. I haven't liked any of their android offerings.
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Me too ... Motorola's just aren't appealing :l
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Well, this goes even more in depth on the possibly changes (or lack thereof) with Google's purchase of Motorola. (Thanks to gu1dry on the CM forums)
http://androidandme.com/2011/08/new...ould-happen-to-motorola-after-google-buys-it/

The nexus will remain to be by bidding of manufacturers, I am looking forward to a new samsung nexus, especially with Cyanogen creator now on their board of engineers!

Sigh. The os on nexus phones is pure Google.
This will have zero effect on the NEXT nexus phone. The phone has been in the works since Xmas holiday season....
I would be surprised if the next phone is a not a moto device. Has nothing to do at all with them purchasing them either. Its the ti SoC that is being used that leads to that conclusion.

Samsung will not build the next nexus... heres proof...

Ok i have complete proof that samsung will not build the next nexus device after the galaxy nexus.... it will be motorola but not for the reason you think...
OK these are the makes of the google phones from google...
HTC: G1
Nexus
Samsung: Nexus S/4g
Galaxy Nexus
notice something? thats right each company only makes 2 devices and google moves on...
now we know that google bought moto for the patents? or did they? I have heard claims google may close source android and have offical android devices from moto only... see this: http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-google-to-use-motorola-merger-to-launch-its-own-phones
so i think that this can be good news... end of all these crappy low end android devices with no memory... an android phones needs atleast 300mb free storage when we purchase a low end phone and even the prevail by samsung only has about 150mb free or so... what a shame...

Google_Nexus said:
Ok i have complete proof that samsung will not build the next nexus device after the galaxy nexus.... it will be motorola but not for the reason you think...
OK these are the makes of the google phones from google...
HTC: G1
Nexus
Samsung: Nexus S/4g
Galaxy Nexus
notice something? thats right each company only makes 2 devices and google moves on...
now we know that google bought moto for the patents? or did they? I have heard claims google may close source android and have offical android devices from moto only... see this: http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-google-to-use-motorola-merger-to-launch-its-own-phones
so i think that this can be good news... end of all these crappy low end android devices with no memory... an android phones needs atleast 300mb free storage when we purchase a low end phone and even the prevail by samsung only has about 150mb free or so... what a shame...
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while your arguments are valid, you do not have any proof.

It makes no sense. The Google's goal is to reach more people with advertising and by closing Android's source it would limit their target. The current system, tho it's not perfect for updates, it's the most profitable for Google.
I don't say that the next Nexus phone won't be manufactured by Motorola, but i srsly doubt that Google will close the doors to the other OEM's. Point being, Goggle will keep Android open sourced and will use Motorola for their patents. Using Moto to build Google experience phones is just an added bonus.

This has to be the most ridiculously illogical post I have seen on these forums. Google choose HTC initially because it was the big player in android, then they choose samsung when it had become the biggest player.
They might choose some other OEM this time but it has nothing to do with the series of 2 phones. You talk as if nexus phones have been made for decades with new OEM being chosen every 2 years lol.

Your data sets are too small for you to say that it's proof. What you have is that HTC made 2 Google phones and then Samsung made 2 google phones.
but wait.
The HTC G2 was a pure google phone, that puts HTC at 3 Google phones. The original motorola Droid was a google phone, that puts them in the mix with one. In terms of pure Nexus devices, it's HTC 1, and Samsung 2. In terms of pure Google experience, HTC has at least 3, Motorola has at least 1 and Samsung has at least 2. That's also assuming I'm forgetting a device or two, which I probably am.
Therefore, there is no pattern and the next Nexus will likely remain in Samsung's corner since it's based on who bids the most and not on "who's made what". Samsung will likely outbid everyone this year and it will like be the samsung galaxy nexus s or something absurd. I'd rather have a Moto Nexus personally (hey why not, give them a swing at it) and have it not be a Verizon exclusive, but that's a pipe dream.

and lets not forget about the google ion, that was a google developers phone made by htc http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/27/google-ion-hands-on-and-unboxing/

Lol. This makes no sense.

chronophase1 said:
Lol. This makes no sense.
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Youre right, HTC makes Sense

Companies send contestant devices in and Google picks the winner. Nothing more.
Motorola almost won last year.
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PoorCollegeGuy said:
Your data sets are too small for you to say that it's proof. What you have is that HTC made 2 Google phones and then Samsung made 2 google phones.
but wait.
The HTC G2 was a pure google phone, that puts HTC at 3 Google phones. The original motorola Droid was a google phone, that puts them in the mix with one. In terms of pure Nexus devices, it's HTC 1, and Samsung 2. In terms of pure Google experience, HTC has at least 3, Motorola has at least 1 and Samsung has at least 2. That's also assuming I'm forgetting a device or two, which I probably am.
Therefore, there is no pattern and the next Nexus will likely remain in Samsung's corner since it's based on who bids the most and not on "who's made what". Samsung will likely outbid everyone this year and it will like be the samsung galaxy nexus s or something absurd. I'd rather have a Moto Nexus personally (hey why not, give them a swing at it) and have it not be a Verizon exclusive, but that's a pipe dream.
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the orginal htc g1 was the very first android phone thus a developers phone and then htc did the nexus one.... then samsung has done two so now its time for someone else to make it... moto since google owns them they keep it in house.. and close sourcing it has made apple a ton of money and i dont have any adds on my programs as i only purchase apps that have no adds and only install free apps without adds... so google is not really making any money off of me on the adds. i use my laptop for that sort of thing... i use my phone for news and some games from gameloft that are paid. also most cellphone operating systems last about ten years and android is about 5 years old so i think its about time google thinks about that look at palm os then look at rim... what does that tell you at the 10 year or so mark they go down for the count... apple will too so will android... so what is next?

Google has already said they don't choose how many each company will make. Each company submits a phone for evaluation as the next Nexus and they decide which it'll be. Therefore, the next Nexus could be from Samsung again, Asus, HTC, Acer, Huawei, Motorola, or really any other manufacturer quite honestly. At the end of the day, I'd be quite surprised if it was anyone but the Big 3 (Sammy, HTC, and Motorola) or Asus since all 4 make the better, higher end phones. I COULD also see LG being a viable candidate, but their offerings so far have, to me, been lackluster and, whilst Sammy doesn't have Moto-quality builds of aluminium and such, LG seems even lower than Sammy build quality-wise.
Build quality- Moto>HTC>Asus>Sammy>LG
Screen quality- Sammy>HTC>LG>Asus>Moto
Internals- Sammy (more cutting edge, Exynos), Asus (Tegra 3), and HTC (also Tegra 3 and Snapdragon S4) all win here.

HTC also made the ION developer phone, the G2 was also a Google stock phone, etc, so there goes your 2 phones theory. And i explained you already why making Android Closed Source would be a bad move to Google.
Just because you don't see adds in your phone doesn't mean the other thousands of people do the same. Google is getting their money from advertising, so they need the biggest audience target as possible. And where did you get the theory about the 10 years SO?
Symbian for example was first released in 2001 and still sells like hotcakes on dumbphones. Windows Mobile was first released also around 2000 and just recently got discontinued due to windows phone 7 (granted it wasn't selling). iOS will probably suffer a UI change but it still will make a strong competitor for the next years and Android has so much space to improve and is in so many markets besides smartphones, that it won't go away anytime soon.
What's next just depends on the best technology offers at the best price.

Maybe nexus phones are more of a Google showing the manufacturer how make android phones. Also I believe they could never close source of android and license it. Pretty sure Microsoft got fined for having free services and once competition died off they started charging for it
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Google_Nexus said:
the orginal htc g1 was the very first android phone thus a developers phone and then htc did the nexus one.... then samsung has done two so now its time for someone else to make it... moto since google owns them they keep it in house.. and close sourcing it has made apple a ton of money and i dont have any adds on my programs as i only purchase apps that have no adds and only install free apps without adds... so google is not really making any money off of me on the adds. i use my laptop for that sort of thing... i use my phone for news and some games from gameloft that are paid. also most cellphone operating systems last about ten years and android is about 5 years old so i think its about time google thinks about that look at palm os then look at rim... what does that tell you at the 10 year or so mark they go down for the count... apple will too so will android... so what is next?
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Android is 9 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Read under "foundation".

BrianDigital said:
Maybe nexus phones are more of a Google showing the manufacturer how make android phones. Also I believe they could never close source of android and license it. Pretty sure Microsoft got fined for having free services and once competition died off they started charging for it
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Nexus line are the guideline for each OS.
Nexus One - 2.1/2.2
Nexus S - 2.3
Galaxy Nexus - ICS

i predict the next gen nexus specs: everyone please save/bookmark this post.
1.5GHz quad core processor OR 2GHz Exynos 5250 processor
2GB RAM
4.65" 720p HD Super AMOLED+ OR HD YOUM Display
Android 5.0 Jellybean
7 - 7.9mm thin
2000 - 2500mAh battery
120-130g
announcing in january 2013!

PoorCollegeGuy said:
Android is 9 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Read under "foundation".
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your link is dead... and android according to wiki is from 2005... and notice no one had google android before 2008 when the first android device ever was sold the htc g1 aka the dream which was a developers phone because well it was the only android phone for a while... so no other phone was their until after the g1 was launched.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
so again android is poised to be in the decline soon.. right now is its peak years and soon it will decline... look at how long gb took to overcome fryo...

Samsung is the best!!. No competition possible!! Motorola is crap! (No offense)
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Sorry but where in your ass are you pulling all this "proof" out of? Lol not to be mean or anything....

thegtfusion said:
Samsung is the best!!. No competition possible!! Motorola is crap! (No offense)
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just because someone sells the most does not mean they are the best. it could be that samsung has carriers that offer their phones dirt cheap like the prevail on boost mobile... also look at general motors company... alot of crap products but they do outsell all the others... but does that mean they are they best.. no they offer a ton of rebates and low prices.... samsung does have some great phones like the galaxy s line but only a few.

Here's the reason why Nexus 6 is so expensive

No, it's not the "flagship hardware" argument.
It's about the fact that the Google decided to stop competing with it's own supporters: Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola, etc. I can bet the hardware makers were beginning to be quite pissed off because of the Nexus bargain prices, and complained loudly. Yes, the Nexus was a great way to show the hardware makers and developers a direction for the Android hardware and - more important - for the Android software, but enough is enough, Google doesn't really need the hardware business so putting more pressure on its own allies is the last thing it needed to do. So the Nexus will remain that direction, with the difference that it will not unnecessarily compete with its partners.
Samsung already posted declining sales. The last thing the hardware makers need now is more competition.
A similar story happened with Microsoft and it's hardware partners. The Surface and Surface Pro tablets are priced quite high in order to avoid competing but they are still able to show the hardware partners a direction in which it wants things to evolve.
So there you have it. This is the real reason Google decided to price the Nexus 6 so high.

kevinlevrone said:
No, it's not the "flagship hardware" argument.
It's about the fact that the Google decided to stop competing with it's own supporters: Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola, etc. I can bet the hardware makers were beginning to be quite pissed off because of the Nexus bargain prices, and complained loudly. Yes, the Nexus was a great way to show the hardware makers and developers a direction for the Android hardware, but enough is enough, Google doesn't really need the hardware business so putting more pressure on its own allies is the last thing it needed to do.
Samsung already posted declining sales. The last thing the hardware makers need now is more competition.
A similar story happened with Microsoft and it's hardware partners. The Surface and Surface Pro tablets are priced quite high in order to avoid competing but they are still able to show the hardware partners a direction in which it wants things to evolve.
So there you have it. This is the real reason Google decided to price the Nexus 6 so high.
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Was disappointed by the price, but this makes sense, well ill have to go and get another phone, possibly, Nexus 5 or OPO

kevinlevrone said:
No, it's not the "flagship hardware" argument.
It's about the fact that the Google decided to stop competing with it's own supporters: Samsung, LG, Sony, Motorola, etc. I can bet the hardware makers were beginning to be quite pissed off because of the Nexus bargain prices, and complained loudly. Yes, the Nexus was a great way to show the hardware makers and developers a direction for the Android hardware, but enough is enough, Google doesn't really need the hardware business so putting more pressure on its own allies is the last thing it needed to do.
Samsung already posted declining sales. The last thing the hardware makers need now is more competition.
A similar story happened with Microsoft and it's hardware partners. The Surface and Surface Pro tablets are priced quite high in order to avoid competing but they are still able to show the hardware partners a direction in which it wants things to evolve.
So there you have it. This is the real reason Google decided to price the Nexus 6 so high.
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Don't buy that argument. Why would google even go through the trouble of making a Nexus device then? Nexus phones certainly weren't cutting into the sales of the Galaxy line. It's a niche market. If google wanted to play nice with hardware manufacturers they would just continue to release Google Play Edition versions of existing devices rather than create their own device.

They probably thought well Apple can sell plenty of iPhones at a hefty markup then we will have a slice of that action.

qwerty12601 said:
Don't buy that argument. Why would google even go through the trouble of making a Nexus device then?
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To give the hardware makers and to "the world" a direction, a benchmark on how an Android device should look and function, a direction in which the Android ecosystem is evolving.

kevinlevrone said:
To give the hardware makers and to "the world" a direction, a benchmark on how an Android device should look and function, a direction in which the Android ecosystem is evolving.
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But on the same token, this device is an enlarged Moto X. Where is google's influence on this device other than a larger foot print?

anees167 said:
Was disappointed by the price, but this makes sense, well ill have to go and get another phone, possibly, Nexus 5 or OPO
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I agree. So today, I chose the N5 over the OPO because of wireless charging and I want android L asap

qwerty12601 said:
But on the same token, this device is an enlarged Moto X. Where is google's influence on this device other than a larger foot print?
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The most important is in the software and how updates are delivered.
The fact that the Nexus 6 is similar to the Moto X (the designs converge) means that Google almost reached its goal of showing the hardware makers how it wants and Android device to look and function.
Remember how the Nexus One seemed like a huge step up compared to all the other Android devices ? Then how a new Nexus (don't remember which - maybe Nexus 4) introduced the software keys instead of the hardware/capacitive permanent keys ? Google steered the hardware into the direction it wanted, over time. Now we are at a point in which the hardware makers know how to properly build Android devices.

qwerty12601 said:
Don't buy that argument. Why would google even go through the trouble of making a Nexus device then? Nexus phones certainly weren't cutting into the sales of the Galaxy line. It's a niche market. If google wanted to play nice with hardware manufacturers they would just continue to release Google Play Edition versions of existing devices rather than create their own device.
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I don't buy this argument either. If anything, Google, according to most reports, is actively trying to wrestle even more control as it seeks to increase competition from other vendors, such as Samsung, which has all but lobotomized Android. With this device, even the price point suggests that a Google device can step out of the niche market and go toe to toe with the heavyweights. Google wants to show it can marry the best hardware with the best form of its newly revamped OS. And, this price point only exudes Google's confidence in this direction.

kevinlevrone said:
The most important is in the software and how updates are delivered.
The fact that the Nexus 6 is similar to the Moto X (the designs converge) means that Google almost reached its goal of showing the hardware makers how it wants and Android device to look and function.
Remember how the Nexus One seemed like a huge step up compared to all the other Android devices ? Then how a new Nexus (don't remember which - maybe Nexus 4) introduced the software keys instead of the hardware/capacitive permanent keys ? Google steered the hardware into the direction it wanted, over time. Now we are at a point in which the hardware makers know how to properly build Android devices.
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I don't doubt that hardware makers have grown to shape their devices to google's goal. But at this point, why would google want to showcase a device that theoretically has been designed in 2013 (original moto x). They're is no device innovation this time. There really hasn't been for years, and that's been accompanied by affordable devices.

qwerty12601 said:
I don't doubt that hardware makers have grown to shape their devices to google's goal. But at this point, why would google want to showcase a device that theoretically has been designed in 2013 (original moto x). They're is no device innovation this time. There really hasn't been for years, and that's been accompanied by affordable devices.
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Did you see any innovation in the new iPhones, other than the larger screens, faster processors and better OS ? Same with Nexus - larger screen, faster processor and better OS. The perceived lack of real hardware innovation it's not Google's fault, it's just that this is the state of technology today.

kevinlevrone said:
Did you see any innovation in the new iPhones, other than the larger screens, faster processors and better OS ? Same with Nexus - larger screen, faster processor and better OS. The perceived lack of real hardware innovation it's not Google's fault, it's just that this is the state of technology today.
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The iphone hasn't innovated anything in years. Their sell is an easy device to use with a super loyal following, and extremely consistent pricing. The price of a new Iphone hasn't changed in many years.
If that's the direction the nexus line wants to go, then good luck! But Nexus doesn't have that large loyal following, and with prices going up and down it's going to make people look at other options.

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If that's the direction the nexus line wants to go, then good luck! But Nexus doesn't have that large loyal following, and with prices going up and down it's going to make people look at other options.
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I think that Google doesn't want (anymore) that many people to buy its Nexus devices - especially phablets which are Samsung's most profitable devices and would really hurt it if Nexus was sold at bargain prices - what Google wants is that those Nexus devices to exist as a reference.
It may be that Samsung had a lot of saying in how Google positioned the Nexus 6. Google needs Samsung, badly. And Samsung released many of its wearables with the Tizen operating system instead of Android Wear. It may be that Google did Samsung a favor in order to ensure that it doesn't lose the wearables war in the future and get Samsung in the Android Wear boat.

Its expensive now not because they were not competing. the nexus line didn't make a dent in anybody's pocket except google's
Fact remains is nexus 5 sales numbers were never released, most likely because they were so poor compared to flagship devices.
Google wanted a way to compete with samsung/apple and now they have found it: contract with more carriers, set it at a price point where other people not familiar with the nexus line would consider it a flagship device, etc.
i can understand, from a business standpoint the nexus 5 didn't make sense and it was time to compete with the big players.
Though i'm sad and will not be buying one. The point of a nexus for me was both the price and no contract needed.. now they got rid of that and at this point i'd rather get something tried and tested like a galaxy note especially if im going to be forced into a contract to get an affordable price for it.

kevinlevrone said:
I think that Google doesn't want (anymore) that many people to buy its Nexus devices - especially phablets which are Samsung's most profitable devices and would really hurt it if Nexus was sold at bargain prices - what Google wants is that those Nexus devices to exist as a reference.
It may be that Samsung had a lot of saying in how Google positioned the Nexus 6. Google needs Samsung, badly. And Samsung released many of its wearables with the Tizen operating system instead of Android Wear. It may be that Google did Samsung a favor in order to ensure that it doesn't lose the wearables war in the future and get Samsung in the Android Wear boat.
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Which is why I feel if that's the direction they really wanted to go, just doing GPE on existing devices where manufacturers are aware and optimize their devices with googles input would make more sense. That way the manufacturer gets to sell the device at full cost, featuring stock android.

floepie said:
I don't buy this argument either. If anything, Google, according to most reports, is actively trying to wrestle even more control as it seeks to increase competition from other vendors, such as Samsung, which has all but lobotomized Android. With this device, even the price point suggests that a Google device can step out of the niche market and go toe to toe with the heavyweights. Google wants to show it can marry the best hardware with the best form of its newly revamped OS. And, this price point only exudes Google's confidence in this direction.
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I believe you nailed it. Its as good as anything top notch out there, and cheaper. Had it been a $450 phone, people would have complained it could have been more.
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So to prevent competition they sell it for a price not many are willing to pay. And to top it off, make it gigantic for even more clout.

theoneofgod said:
So to prevent competition they sell it for a price not many are willing to pay. And to top it off, make it gigantic for even more clout.
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No, to *help* competition among its partners. Google is not in the hardware business, they don't care if it sells or not. It only cares for the Nexus line to exist and show the world how Android should be.

An alternative take.
Motorola are hurting for cash. Google bought them, did nothing with them and then sold them to Lenovo, but not before taking all the good IP with them. Lenovo added a stipulation that they make the next Nexus device and get to price it, making more profit. Motorola are the only ones to name the price so far, not Google.
That's my take, it's pure stipulation, but that's my opinion.

Kryten2k35 said:
An alternative take.
Motorola are hurting for cash. Google bought them, did nothing with them and then sold them to Lenovo, but not before taking all the good IP with them. Lenovo added a stipulation that they make the next Nexus device and get to price it, making more profit. Motorola are the only ones to name the price so far, not Google.
That's my take, it's pure stipulation, but that's my opinion.
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Interesting and I find it possible. Motorola doesn't have a non-Nexus phablet yet, so the Nexus could be their own entry into the phablet market. The fact that it will be sold through carriers with subsidy, etc. just like a regular phone also adds to this possibility.
However, would Google abandon their Nexus strategy with this one-time deal/screw-up ? Not sure. And I'm also not sure that the Nexus line sold so well as to be a desired deal by Motorola. The Nexus line was positioned in a certain way, you can't easily switch this positioning and expect huge success (Google doesn't care about sales but Motorola does).
However I believe Google (or Motorola, or both) will learn its lesson from this. People expect lower prices from Nexus devices. If they launched a similar phablet but non-Nexus branded, no one would have complained about the price. But calling it a Nexus will surely make many people hate Google for it.

[Discussion] Android 7.1 with witch Features for Nexus?

Hey dudes,
yesterday we have seen the new Android 7.1 Nugat on the new Pixel Smartphones. Whitch features will come to the Nexus Device? Will we only have the new Google Assistent? Or could we get the new Fingerprint Sensor Controlls and Nightshift?
I hope we will see some features for our Nexus Devices. Nexus 5X and 6P are quite good Devices and I hope Google don´t forget this.
Chris.K

According to Android Police, we're supposed to be getting fingerprint gestures in 7.1 alongside Pixel phones.
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Google is laughting at nexus users. Enjoy the Developer preview nexus program to only improve and update the pixels.

I feel Google have walked out the door and slammed it in our faces a little.
Nexus is the red headed stepchild now, pixel is the darling child with a pony.
Give pixel users the support, services bonuses (photos etc) and hardware specific things but Nexus users should get all the software benefits the same inc assistant, launcher buttons and so on and timely updates. We understand they've moved on but a lot of their customers that chose Nexus specifically are still locked into a contract for another 1-2 years and so will be left pining for their attention.
Waiting for an unspecified time in the next 3 months for a developer preview of something the pixel phones have is not a good view of the future.

The Nexus Line won't get the Google Assistent!
Here is a new leak From Android Police.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-pixel-exclusive-non-pixel-exclusive-changes/

chris.k00 said:
The Nexus Line won't get the Google Assistent!
Here is a new leak From Android Police.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...-pixel-exclusive-non-pixel-exclusive-changes/
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I am sure this is different for everyone, but the "exclusive" ones I would care about are Smart Storage, Hardware HDR+, and EIS (you can get EIS via customization on current 5x but it is nice to have it supported and easily enabled)

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Pixel product-specific:
-Pixel Launcher - swipe up for all apps, new Search Box, date/weather header on home
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I hope someone will Port the Pixel Rom to Nexus 5X/Nexus 6P.

You know, for the longest time I have been thinking that iPhone loyalists were some of the most jaded people on the planet. Then Google came and pulled this out and now I KNOW that Nexus fanboys are right there in that same category. Bunch of whiny babies. They killed the Nexus line because it's purpose has run it's course. They release a NEW line of devices that's aimed at the mass market of consumers (like Samsung, iPhone, HTC, LG, etc. owners) and everyone loses their minds because their favorite toy has come to an end. The Pixel line is an EVOLUTION of the Nexus line, not just a replacement. It's been what they've been building towards since the OG Nexus One. Of course you're not gonna get the same features.
Then everybody wants to ***** about being "left behind" with these updates. When you buy a Nexus, you're guarenteed OS support for up to two years. Guess what? You're STILL getting updates for up to two years. So what, you're salty that you're no longer getting the update first? Too bad. The game changed with the Pixel devices, so get used to it. It's the SUCCESSOR to the Nexus line. If you don't like it, jump ship. You won't be missed. And Google isn't going to lose money over it.
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I'm just hoping that Pixel Launcher will be available. Space for photos would be nice as well, but besides that i'm gonna be just fine. XD

Pixel Launcher is available. The Round Icons come with Android 7.1. I'm just hoping, that we will get the Google Assistant.

"Pixel Launcher is available." Well.. Yes and no. I mean officially like Google Now Launcher

I just buy this mobile phone for 2 weeks ago. I was so thrilled for gesture of finger print and now? Oh my god,
Previous year i bought lg g3 i was like little kid: "omg nice phone oh Lg is great company i will get a new feature in next version of android nice " i says in my mind, but no Qualcomm says we couldn't developed drivers for snapdragon 801 for android 7.0 and gues what? That Why I buy nexus phone. For Next time maybe i will by iphone one, im not fan of apple but what about theirs support? All iphone from iphone 5 since iphone 7 get ios10.0 with same features.... Sorry about that im writing about apple. And sorry for my English im not good in languages.
EDIT: When i was bought nexus I don't knew about pixel phone, maybe its my bad luck

Pixel Launcher, Google Assistant, unlimited photo/vídeo backup and smart storage. Why make this exclusive features to Pixel Phones? These things are possible to put in any phone, hardware limitations are not the problem in this case. If they do this to sell Pixels, what a big failure? I wouldn't buy a phone for this features. Hope they revert their stupid decision and add it to Nexus phones.
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I understand the brand building and making Pixel unique with added value. What I don't understand is abandoning the Nexus line. And abandoning the developer phone concept.
It's like they abandon the developer community in sone way.
People here contributed the google experience through android with many-many ideas. Also many developers use nexus devices to test their product at the first place.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there opens a gap that needs to be filled.
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Looks like we WILL be getting the fingerprint gestures for the notification shade!
https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/07/the-pixels-release-doesn-t-mean-your-nexus-is-completely-toast/
"The update will also enable Moves: an opt-in gesture-based feature that will open or close the notifications slider."
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Oblox said:
We understand they've moved on but a lot of their customers that chose Nexus specifically are still locked into a contract for another 1-2 years and so will be left pining for their attention.
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Locked into what contract? That is a consumer decision, not a Google one.
I didn't get my Nexus from a carrier, no contract, paid for it up front. Works just fine on the same carrier of the phone I replaced it with still sitting in a box as a backup emergency phone.
If I want to spend $649+ for a new phone in a few weeks, then I just get it.
That is a lot of money though... right now everything is on hold as the status of root is, but that is a different decision and issue.
Why is that Googles issue? If people can't afford it, they won't buy it.

krelvinaz said:
Locked into what contract? That is a consumer decision, not a Google one.
I didn't get my Nexus from a carrier, no contract, paid for it up front. Works just fine on the same carrier of the phone I replaced it with still sitting in a box as a backup emergency phone.
If I want to spend $649+ for a new phone in a few weeks, then I just get it.
That is a lot of money though... right now everything is on hold as the status of root is, but that is a different decision and issue.
Why is that Googles issue? If people can't afford it, they won't buy it.
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I think that he meant plan-wise. I'm still locked to my contract too, but I bought my N5X straight up when it was released last year.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-features-that-Nexus-will-NOT-get_id86189 -they said this is official but you never know

How do you all figure nexus is abandoned?! We were promised our updates and we will receive them! Why are so many people crying because google changed the name of the phone?!?! Abandoned is such a strong word and thats a far fetch from whsts happening. We will get our promised updates im so sick of seeing these posts all over xda and g plus! Omfg

iamterence said:
You know, for the longest time I have been thinking that iPhone loyalists were some of the most jaded people on the planet. Then Google came and pulled this out and now I KNOW that Nexus fanboys are right there in that same category. Bunch of whiny babies. They killed the Nexus line because it's purpose has run it's course. They release a NEW line of devices that's aimed at the mass market of consumers (like Samsung, iPhone, HTC, LG, etc. owners) and everyone loses their minds because their favorite toy has come to an end. The Pixel line is an EVOLUTION of the Nexus line, not just a replacement. It's been what they've been building towards since the OG Nexus One. Of course you're not gonna get the same features.
Then everybody wants to ***** about being "left behind" with these updates. When you buy a Nexus, you're guarenteed OS support for up to two years. Guess what? You're STILL getting updates for up to two years. So what, you're salty that you're no longer getting the update first? Too bad. The game changed with the Pixel devices, so get used to it. It's the SUCCESSOR to the Nexus line. If you don't like it, jump ship. You won't be missed. And Google isn't going to lose money over it.
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Sit down Terrance - I just bought another 5x 3 weeks ago and the ad didnt say "support for 2 years" it said "get the latest and greatest first"
Instead what I am going to get is akin to a Samsung Galaxy product with a to be determined watered down version at some point in the future. The Pixel and Pixel Xl aren't successors, they are 5X+ and 6P+ in a new body with software the only defining feature of mention and the doubling of the price, that's the very definition of a screwing
Nice try with the "run it's course" - the pixel phones serve the exact same purpose as the nexus phones - to highlight android or presumably the soon to be ultimate fckfest, andromeda, which will probably burn the pixel owners, assuming those phones even last that long or it's just Moto Gooogle phone v2

[DISCUSSION] Google Pixel/XL from a Developer Point of View

Hi developers,
I wonder how to handle the new Pixel phones from a developer point of view.
The last couple of years, I always used at least one nexus device (starting with a Nexus S) with the latest Android version as a development device. I often used it as a kind of benchmark/ base line, like "if it is working on the stock nexus device, and not on your device with the same android version, your manufacturer firmware or custom rom has a bug". Sure this does not mean I would not test with the most popular devices/ roms or implement some extra workarounds for these devices, but with so many different devices and roms the nexus device with "stock/pure android" was always my reference how it should work.
I don´t care about the price, tech spec or the look of the Pixel device, but I wonder how to handle "pixel exclusive" features ...and also the pixel exclusive bugs.
From my point of view, Pixel devices will not be the "stock/pure Android" reference, like the nexus device. Ok, nexus devices also did not cover all stock android features (like the IR api or even the SD card feature) but, at least, they did not contain any extra non stock features .....
So to make it short: How would you, with the alleged end of the nexus devices in mind, handle the Pixel devices from your developer point of view ?

I'm mainly considering getting this because I'm hoping development for it will be well supported. Surely this will be the baseline android with a few extra apps?

I'm a bit pessimistic about the developer support this phone will end up receiving, in comparison with past Nexus devices. The reason for this is that top developers can't usually go buy every phone that comes out, in order to develop for them. So they often rely on donations for others to chip in to greatly offset the cost of purchasing the phones for development.
In this case, the price is much greater than it was with the Nexus phones so it will likely require greater donations to get the Pixel and Pixel XL into the hands of our favorite developers. This may be a limiting factor with how much development this phone actually sees. Of course, I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully some of the top developers will love the phone enough to jump on one or that they can get enough donations to pick one up.
Either way, time will tell.

I did think that. I'm still not sure what to do, pre order or wait and see. I've been looking at the oneplus3 but as I'm on a OnePlus 2 the support isn't huge for the development side of things compared to the old nexus devices which is what I always had

yep, I think I will have to wait and see ... if the Pixel becomes a top seller AND is the next best thing to a "pure android" device, I will surely use it as my new android development device .... otherwise I don´t know

The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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tacosrdelicioso said:
The lack of traffic on XDA has me concerned. The xl has a lot more
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I think the reason for that is most of the Android junkies (like us) tend to flock to the bigger devices since they spend so much time on them. Lately, I've found myself in the minority when I say that I sold my Nexus 6P simply because it was too big. I even find the OnePlus 3 to be slightly too big for me. And since the Pixel XL is just a smidge bigger than the OnePlus 3, I just can't go that route. But most others are going to go for the bigger device, I think.
The good news is that since the Pixel and Pixel XL are identical aside from the size, development for one should port to the regular Pixel (and vice versa) with relative ease.

I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release

rosswaa said:
I figured the best size phone I've had is the nexus 5, one of the better looking as well. Kinda bored of the big screen phones now. Getting fed up of stretching my thumb and nearly dropping it because of it.
Hardware wise it should be a decent phone. Stuff like water resistance doesn't bother me, I have a girlfriend so don't need shower videos
The one thing that had bugged me mid than anything is they've announced it but not released it. Not even test units to have some reviews prior to release
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Lol, shower videos.
That is all.

Buy an unlockable model and it should be no different than any other model.

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