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Samsung will not build the next nexus... heres proof...

Ok i have complete proof that samsung will not build the next nexus device after the galaxy nexus.... it will be motorola but not for the reason you think...
OK these are the makes of the google phones from google...
HTC: G1
Nexus
Samsung: Nexus S/4g
Galaxy Nexus
notice something? thats right each company only makes 2 devices and google moves on...
now we know that google bought moto for the patents? or did they? I have heard claims google may close source android and have offical android devices from moto only... see this: http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-google-to-use-motorola-merger-to-launch-its-own-phones
so i think that this can be good news... end of all these crappy low end android devices with no memory... an android phones needs atleast 300mb free storage when we purchase a low end phone and even the prevail by samsung only has about 150mb free or so... what a shame...

Google_Nexus said:
Ok i have complete proof that samsung will not build the next nexus device after the galaxy nexus.... it will be motorola but not for the reason you think...
OK these are the makes of the google phones from google...
HTC: G1
Nexus
Samsung: Nexus S/4g
Galaxy Nexus
notice something? thats right each company only makes 2 devices and google moves on...
now we know that google bought moto for the patents? or did they? I have heard claims google may close source android and have offical android devices from moto only... see this: http://www.neowin.net/news/rumor-google-to-use-motorola-merger-to-launch-its-own-phones
so i think that this can be good news... end of all these crappy low end android devices with no memory... an android phones needs atleast 300mb free storage when we purchase a low end phone and even the prevail by samsung only has about 150mb free or so... what a shame...
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while your arguments are valid, you do not have any proof.

It makes no sense. The Google's goal is to reach more people with advertising and by closing Android's source it would limit their target. The current system, tho it's not perfect for updates, it's the most profitable for Google.
I don't say that the next Nexus phone won't be manufactured by Motorola, but i srsly doubt that Google will close the doors to the other OEM's. Point being, Goggle will keep Android open sourced and will use Motorola for their patents. Using Moto to build Google experience phones is just an added bonus.

This has to be the most ridiculously illogical post I have seen on these forums. Google choose HTC initially because it was the big player in android, then they choose samsung when it had become the biggest player.
They might choose some other OEM this time but it has nothing to do with the series of 2 phones. You talk as if nexus phones have been made for decades with new OEM being chosen every 2 years lol.

Your data sets are too small for you to say that it's proof. What you have is that HTC made 2 Google phones and then Samsung made 2 google phones.
but wait.
The HTC G2 was a pure google phone, that puts HTC at 3 Google phones. The original motorola Droid was a google phone, that puts them in the mix with one. In terms of pure Nexus devices, it's HTC 1, and Samsung 2. In terms of pure Google experience, HTC has at least 3, Motorola has at least 1 and Samsung has at least 2. That's also assuming I'm forgetting a device or two, which I probably am.
Therefore, there is no pattern and the next Nexus will likely remain in Samsung's corner since it's based on who bids the most and not on "who's made what". Samsung will likely outbid everyone this year and it will like be the samsung galaxy nexus s or something absurd. I'd rather have a Moto Nexus personally (hey why not, give them a swing at it) and have it not be a Verizon exclusive, but that's a pipe dream.

and lets not forget about the google ion, that was a google developers phone made by htc http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/27/google-ion-hands-on-and-unboxing/

Lol. This makes no sense.

chronophase1 said:
Lol. This makes no sense.
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Youre right, HTC makes Sense

Companies send contestant devices in and Google picks the winner. Nothing more.
Motorola almost won last year.
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PoorCollegeGuy said:
Your data sets are too small for you to say that it's proof. What you have is that HTC made 2 Google phones and then Samsung made 2 google phones.
but wait.
The HTC G2 was a pure google phone, that puts HTC at 3 Google phones. The original motorola Droid was a google phone, that puts them in the mix with one. In terms of pure Nexus devices, it's HTC 1, and Samsung 2. In terms of pure Google experience, HTC has at least 3, Motorola has at least 1 and Samsung has at least 2. That's also assuming I'm forgetting a device or two, which I probably am.
Therefore, there is no pattern and the next Nexus will likely remain in Samsung's corner since it's based on who bids the most and not on "who's made what". Samsung will likely outbid everyone this year and it will like be the samsung galaxy nexus s or something absurd. I'd rather have a Moto Nexus personally (hey why not, give them a swing at it) and have it not be a Verizon exclusive, but that's a pipe dream.
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the orginal htc g1 was the very first android phone thus a developers phone and then htc did the nexus one.... then samsung has done two so now its time for someone else to make it... moto since google owns them they keep it in house.. and close sourcing it has made apple a ton of money and i dont have any adds on my programs as i only purchase apps that have no adds and only install free apps without adds... so google is not really making any money off of me on the adds. i use my laptop for that sort of thing... i use my phone for news and some games from gameloft that are paid. also most cellphone operating systems last about ten years and android is about 5 years old so i think its about time google thinks about that look at palm os then look at rim... what does that tell you at the 10 year or so mark they go down for the count... apple will too so will android... so what is next?

Google has already said they don't choose how many each company will make. Each company submits a phone for evaluation as the next Nexus and they decide which it'll be. Therefore, the next Nexus could be from Samsung again, Asus, HTC, Acer, Huawei, Motorola, or really any other manufacturer quite honestly. At the end of the day, I'd be quite surprised if it was anyone but the Big 3 (Sammy, HTC, and Motorola) or Asus since all 4 make the better, higher end phones. I COULD also see LG being a viable candidate, but their offerings so far have, to me, been lackluster and, whilst Sammy doesn't have Moto-quality builds of aluminium and such, LG seems even lower than Sammy build quality-wise.
Build quality- Moto>HTC>Asus>Sammy>LG
Screen quality- Sammy>HTC>LG>Asus>Moto
Internals- Sammy (more cutting edge, Exynos), Asus (Tegra 3), and HTC (also Tegra 3 and Snapdragon S4) all win here.

HTC also made the ION developer phone, the G2 was also a Google stock phone, etc, so there goes your 2 phones theory. And i explained you already why making Android Closed Source would be a bad move to Google.
Just because you don't see adds in your phone doesn't mean the other thousands of people do the same. Google is getting their money from advertising, so they need the biggest audience target as possible. And where did you get the theory about the 10 years SO?
Symbian for example was first released in 2001 and still sells like hotcakes on dumbphones. Windows Mobile was first released also around 2000 and just recently got discontinued due to windows phone 7 (granted it wasn't selling). iOS will probably suffer a UI change but it still will make a strong competitor for the next years and Android has so much space to improve and is in so many markets besides smartphones, that it won't go away anytime soon.
What's next just depends on the best technology offers at the best price.

Maybe nexus phones are more of a Google showing the manufacturer how make android phones. Also I believe they could never close source of android and license it. Pretty sure Microsoft got fined for having free services and once competition died off they started charging for it
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Google_Nexus said:
the orginal htc g1 was the very first android phone thus a developers phone and then htc did the nexus one.... then samsung has done two so now its time for someone else to make it... moto since google owns them they keep it in house.. and close sourcing it has made apple a ton of money and i dont have any adds on my programs as i only purchase apps that have no adds and only install free apps without adds... so google is not really making any money off of me on the adds. i use my laptop for that sort of thing... i use my phone for news and some games from gameloft that are paid. also most cellphone operating systems last about ten years and android is about 5 years old so i think its about time google thinks about that look at palm os then look at rim... what does that tell you at the 10 year or so mark they go down for the count... apple will too so will android... so what is next?
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Android is 9 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Read under "foundation".

BrianDigital said:
Maybe nexus phones are more of a Google showing the manufacturer how make android phones. Also I believe they could never close source of android and license it. Pretty sure Microsoft got fined for having free services and once competition died off they started charging for it
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Nexus line are the guideline for each OS.
Nexus One - 2.1/2.2
Nexus S - 2.3
Galaxy Nexus - ICS

i predict the next gen nexus specs: everyone please save/bookmark this post.
1.5GHz quad core processor OR 2GHz Exynos 5250 processor
2GB RAM
4.65" 720p HD Super AMOLED+ OR HD YOUM Display
Android 5.0 Jellybean
7 - 7.9mm thin
2000 - 2500mAh battery
120-130g
announcing in january 2013!

PoorCollegeGuy said:
Android is 9 years old http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
Read under "foundation".
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your link is dead... and android according to wiki is from 2005... and notice no one had google android before 2008 when the first android device ever was sold the htc g1 aka the dream which was a developers phone because well it was the only android phone for a while... so no other phone was their until after the g1 was launched.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system)
so again android is poised to be in the decline soon.. right now is its peak years and soon it will decline... look at how long gb took to overcome fryo...

Samsung is the best!!. No competition possible!! Motorola is crap! (No offense)
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Sorry but where in your ass are you pulling all this "proof" out of? Lol not to be mean or anything....

thegtfusion said:
Samsung is the best!!. No competition possible!! Motorola is crap! (No offense)
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just because someone sells the most does not mean they are the best. it could be that samsung has carriers that offer their phones dirt cheap like the prevail on boost mobile... also look at general motors company... alot of crap products but they do outsell all the others... but does that mean they are they best.. no they offer a ton of rebates and low prices.... samsung does have some great phones like the galaxy s line but only a few.

Why are people dissing my decision to get the Nexus 4 ?

I just picked up my Nexus 4 last week, and really like it. Rooted with Xylon 4.2.2 ROM, and Matrix kernel v7.0, I am averaging around 16 hours or so total battery life, and like 5 hours On Screen time every day, the past three days since on this combo.
I post on a lot of different tech forums, everyone telling me I am crazy for buying the Nexus 4, should have gotten the Note 2 #1 ( Actually which I had, and returned it two weeks later, great phone, amazing battery life, but 5.5" screen, is just too large for my every day phone ) For that same price, I also picked up a Nexus 7 tablet, and the Nexus 4, same price as my Note 2 out of contract full price.
On these other tech forums, said the Galaxy S3 is better, the One X is better, and that the Nexus 4 should be like the 4th option to go with. WTF ?
My smartphone history goes like this; iPhone 1, iPhone 3G, MyTouch 3G, Nexus-One, EVO 4G, Nexus-S 4G, Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus, HTC One X, Note 2, Nexus 4.
Out of all those phones, I have to say I felt the most comfortable with my Nexus phones, to quote that classic line "It just works", I prefer the minimalistic design of the Nexus line, not too flashy, or fancy overdone UI's, but a smooth and simple design, that I feel most comfortable with. Sure I know the Nexus 4 is not the most powerful smartphone available today, and maybe not the best screen tech, but I am happy with it, and battery life isn't as bad as the nightmare I read.
Plus once Android 5.0 KLP is released possibly this Summer, the Nexus 4 will get it right away, good luck with your new HTC One, or Galaxy S4 getting 5.0 KLP anytime soon, it will be a very long wait, even custom ROM's for non Nexus phones will have a long wait to get 5.0.

theyre just jealous. plus, everyone always thinks that the device that they have is the best, regardless of the truth. i love my n4, and wouldnt give it up for those other devices.

simms22 said:
theyre just jealous. plus, everyone always thinks that the device that they have is the best, regardless of the truth. i love my n4, and wouldnt give it up for those other devices.
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The device I have really is the best
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simms22 said:
theyre just jealous. plus, everyone always thinks that the device that they have is the best, regardless of the truth. i love my n4, and wouldnt give it up for those other devices.
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A few people that did respond, said they are on Verizon, and if the Nexus 4 was available, and had LTE for Verizon, they would get it right away. Personally I hate Verizon, super expensive, but they are the biggest carrier in the U.S., I think the Nexus-Five will have LTE, and Google would be smart to have a CDMA version to work with that carrier, could be a ton more sales.
Rumors point to Google announcing Android 5.0 "Key Lime Pie" at this May's Google I/O show. And possibly a release this June / July. Would Google also release the Nexus-Five then this Summer, the first phone with 5.0 KLP ? Or just give the Nexus 4 Key Lime Pie, and hold off on the Nexus-Five to the typical Nov/Dec release ?

Zorachus said:
A few people that did respond, said they are on Verizon, and if the Nexus 4 was available, and had LTE for Verizon, they would get it right away. Personally I hate Verizon, super expensive, but they are the biggest carrier in the U.S., I think the Nexus-Five will have LTE, and Google would be smart to have a CDMA version to work with that carrier, could be a ton more sales.
Rumors point to Google announcing Android 5.0 "Key Lime Pie" at this May's Google I/O show. And possibly a release this June / July. Would Google also release the Nexus-Five then this Summer, the first phone with 5.0 KLP ? Or just give the Nexus 4 Key Lime Pie, and hold off on the Nexus-Five to the typical Nov/Dec release ?
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typically with google its a year cycle for the nexus releases. they might announce klp at i/o, but i dont think that it would be out until later this year.
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Exodian said:
The device I have really is the best
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no it's not, mine is

simms22 said:
theyre just jealous. plus, everyone always thinks that the device that they have is the best, regardless of the truth. i love my n4, and wouldnt give it up for those other devices.
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I concur. Everyone has a preference. Forget those fools. Just enjoy your device and make yourself happy.

scream4cheese said:
I concur. Everyone has a preference. Forget those fools. Just enjoy your device and make yourself happy.
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I do. I really like this Nexus 4. Just surprised people look at it like a cheap low end Android device. I think it's easily one of the top phones out there today. Better spec'd than the Galaxy S3, way better than the One X, sure the Note 2 might be better, but that's too large for my tastes. Not sure why so much hate for the Nexus 4, maybe because it's not a Samsung or HTC made Nexus ?
This LG Nexus is much nicer than my old Samsung Nexus, nicer screen, way better build quality, not even mentioning the better hardware, but that's a given with a one year newer device.

It's interesting that there are fanboy groups within fanboy groups. It's like fanboy Inception.

El Daddy said:
It's interesting that there are fanboy groups within fanboy groups. It's like fanboy Inception.
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Samslut has a huge following. I just went to a T-Mobile store. Every single employee had a Samsung phone.
Every. Single. One.
One of them, I know for a fact, had ordered a Nexus 4 back in December. Hater.

Most people equate price with worth. If something cost more it must be better. If something cost less it must be worse. Look at all apples stuff. Cost an arm and leg for their "premium" junk. Cost more, must be better.
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Exodian said:
Most people equate price with worth. If something cost more it must be better. If something cost less it must be worse. Look at all apples stuff. Cost an arm and leg for their "premium" junk. Cost more, must be better.
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Well, their hardware and build quality is top notch. Mind you, they leave out things for a while like LTE, NFC, etc.
It's just the software... :shudder:
Also, that elitist mentality based on ignorance that seems to come with the device kind of blows.

estallings15 said:
Samslut has a huge following. I just went to a T-Mobile store. Every single employee had a Samsung phone.
Every. Single. One.
One of them, I know for a fact, had ordered a Nexus 4 back in December. Hater.
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With the exception of the N4 there really isn't a much better option on T-Mobile than the S3 for high end phones. Everything else there is mid-low range.
I think Samsung's success comes from:
1: They are a household name. They make everything. People can relate.
2: They advertise the crap out of their phones.
Most people aren't tech savvy. When they see non-stop apple and samsung commercials they believe that they are the best things out there. They just don't know any better.

El Daddy said:
With the exception of the N4 there really isn't a much better option on T-Mobile than the S3 for high end phones. Everything else there is mid-low range.
I think Samsung's success comes from:
1: They are a household name. They make everything. People can relate.
2: The advertise the crap out of their phones.
Most people aren't tech savvy. When the see non-stop apple and samsung commercials they believe that they are the best things out there. They just don't know any better.
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Absolutely. I couldn't agree more.
That just goes to show you that advertising works. It's OK, all the haters can suck it.

I own a nexus s and I've recommended Samsung to everyone I know for about the last year or so....when I told my friends I wanted the LG Nexus they all looked appalled that I would recommend one manufacturer to everyone, then suddenly choose a device for myself from another. Some people just don't understand that not everyone cares what brand an item is. I picked a Nexus 4 because I wanted to stay with the Nexus family for its open nature and amazing development community. I pick devices for my needs. My needs are not the same as any one of my friends. They all like to buy a phone and keep it unrooted, etc. And that's fine. But I like to mod the living piss out of mine. If I could have remotely unlocked the bootloader while it was on its way to me I would have lol
This is what makes android so great, and it is why iOS will become known as an epic fail. Variety is the spice of life If they keep shoveling crap in front of people and expect them to just choke it down without even considering the fact that they may not like the same thing as the person next to them, they will eventually fail.

estallings15 said:
Absolutely. I couldn't agree more.
That just goes to show you that advertising works. It's OK, all the haters can suck it.
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Yeah it's all about the advertising.
iOS advertising is condescending. People see the commercials and think they are elite for owning one.
Samsung ads have been more of the attacking/put down variety. People carry the bashing to the real world. Even if it means bashing other Android devices.
Advertising is a powerful tool...especially to the layman.

I had the option to pick whatever phone I wanted and went with the Nexus 4 because I can't stand touchwix and the note is just too big for my taste.
I didn't want an S3 knowing that the S4 is around the corner and not knowing when the S3 was getting future updates.
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Couldn't be happier with mine. Just switched from the one s, nobody was making any Roms for the the US one s and got tired of waiting on tmo to release their jellybloat. This is my first nexus phone. Well i take that back the first one had a defect in the screen that looked like a dimple in the pixels.

I'm surprised HTC doesn't have more of a cult following as their phones have some of the nicest build quality among the phones I've used. Samsung phones are nice too but I just can't get over the overly plastic feeling in their designs. I prefer a heavier phone for some reason; something that doesn't feel hollow behind the screen. To each their own at the end of the day... those same haters are gonna be the cry babies in the Samsung forums wishing they had the fast Android updates and Google support we receive with our Nexus devices. Tell them to have fun with their Samsung source code and move along.

negroplasty said:
I'm surprised HTC doesn't have more of a cult following as their phones have some of the nicest build quality among the phones I've used. Samsung phones are nice too but I just can't get over the overly plastic feeling in their designs. I prefer a heavier phone for some reason; something that doesn't feel hollow behind the screen. To each their own at the end of the day... those same haters are gonna be the cry babies in the Samsung forums wishing they had the fast Android updates and Google support we receive with our Nexus devices. Tell them to have fun with their Samsung source code and move along.
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HTC has a few things against them
1) They put out phones slowly.
2) Slow software updates. It takes forever to update Sense.
3) Almost no advertising or other aggressive marketing.
4) They just don't have the funds or clout that Samsung has.

I am happy with my LG made Nexus, at the end of the day, I don't care, I mean all these phones are mainly Korean made, and LG is no slouch or small mom and pop shop.
But I will admit, that HTC has been making some really good designs lately, the One X in my opinion was the best looking Android phone of 2012, and the new One phones looks really great. I would love to have HTC back on the next Nexus. But if the Nexus-Five is another LG produced phone, that won't stop me one bit from buying it.

Is the end of Nexus inevitable? Silver Line to come soon..... Discussion

Hi there
We all must be hearing a lot of rumors about the end of Nexus Line by Google and Launch of Silver in upcoming year, by 2015 according to sources!
Well, according to my knowledge, the Nexus was introduced to increase the number of phones/tablets running Android in fast growing market which was dominated by Ipad/Iphone. As Google earns its 97% of profit due to advertisements, it was inevitable that if Google can increase the number of devices used, it would certainly mean more profit due to coaxing more users to its services and advertisement. This meant that although Google made some profit on Nexus devices but its main aim was to increase the android devices using Google Services like Youtube, Gmail, Google+.
Also, it was a way to provide "pure android experience" to the users free from all freezing which was mostly due to customization of android by different manufacturers.
Devices in the Nexus line do not have manufacturer or wireless carrier modifications to Android (such as custom graphical user interfaces), and have an unlockable bootloader to allow further development and end-user modification.Nexus devices are the first Android devices to receive updates to the operating system and recommended by the Android Open Source Project for Android software development.
PROJECT SILVER
Silver line basically is a way to control Samsung influence by Google. The concept is that if a device fulfills certain hardware and software criterias, they would be labelled as SILVER. The Google would ensure that these devices are first to be updated as Google would itself provide the expertise required in development of the android software. Not just that, Google would also give some subsidies which would ensure that if a developer wants a device to be silver, it would be earning more profit than a non silver device. The silver devices would also be kept in special cases in shops to attract more customers. It would also mean that any manufacturer around the world can take part in Silver project and the domination of Samsung, Sony, LG, HTC, Motorola and other big manufacturers would be directly challenged by Google.
This means we would be seeing phones which would be top-notch from small manufactures like MI (XIAOMI), OPPO.
In this regard, Google would also ensure that its services are kept while custom services provided by the manufacturer are kept to minimum!
Now the Google already has a big share in the market by Android's influence and thus it can still earn its profits by advertisement which is about 97%. Thus it does not need to put more nexus devices out there as it is directly challenged by Samsung. Now the competition has begun within Android itself which was with other OS before. The introduction of TIZEN by Samsung is a direct challenge to Android. Tizen's biggest strength in my opinion is that if you programme an app in tizen, you can use the same app in IOS , android and other platforms by just changing very little code!
The only thing I am not sure about is the price of Silver Devices. I am sure there would a tough competition but would that mean we would get the devices as cheap as Nexus line. We can not be sure as it could happen. Suppose the latest Oppo phone is labelled as silver and is selling for 300$, other manufacturers would be forced to keep their price down as nothing separates two Silver devices but we can not be sure as i mentioned before!
WHY I PREFER A NEXUS
I prefer Nexus devices over all others, not due to their development friendly nature but also they provide quick updates, top notch specifications at a very reasonable price.
Plus, Nexus devices are certain to get all CUSTOM ROMS and development is very quick compared to many other devices!
They also keep manufacturers to keep their price in check and they give you a pure android experience which I am not sure Project Silver can promise.
I just hope the Nexus line is always kept by Google. If they can keep on releasing one phone (4.7 inch) and two tablets ( 8 and 10) every year at least with their Silver Project and see if more consumers prefer Silver or Nexus and leave the choice to the consumers!
What do you prefer and give your reasons why you think it would be a good thing or a bad thing if Google gives up Nexus and starts Silver Project?
Update: Nexus is going to stay!! Hip Hip Hooray!
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...ay-but-Android-Silver-is-in-the-works_id57593

If affordability isn't hit I find no problem with silver program. But I don't think it wouldn't.
At least we will have motorola.

I don't know what others think but Nexus, Samsung and Apple is ending for me, Mipad (Xiaomi) is winning my heart.

This is good since the Nexus line isn't priced fairly world wide. A 16GB Nexus 5 cost like 550 USD in my country (Indonesia) and there's no 32GB version avaliable.
However, the Silver Line shouldn't just apply to high end phones, it should apply to all Android device if this project is to be fair.
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maidangisme said:
I don't know what others think but Nexus, Samsung and Apple is ending for me, Mipad (Xiaomi) is winning my heart.
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All MI products is taking my breath away with its awesome UI, price and hardware !

For now I'm not sure. Not all details about the silver platform are known. I wouldn't have a problem with GPE like devices sold as the Silver line. The downfall will come with the, probably, increased prices of the Silver devices. At least that would be a huge let down for me.
Hopefully companies as Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and Motorola can fill the gap for high performance devices with a attractive price tag.

RichJo86 said:
Hopefully companies as Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and Motorola can fill the gap for high performance devices with a attractive price tag.
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Xiaomi already did : Phone -MI2 and MI3, up coming Mipad.
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AnyRom said:
Xiaomi already did : Phone -MI2 and MI3, up coming Mipad.
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True, but if the devices are not in stock... hopefully they can find a way to keep up with the demand.
The Mi3 64GB is only recently in stock if I'm correct, only the 16GB version was sold it small batches.

My problem with this silver program is that price will surely not be nexus levels and I doubt these silver edition phones will have the freedom that nexuses have. Just like Dev editions.... most of which still have restrictions you don't see on a nexus. Example, flashing any bootloader you want, no matter what version.
So I'm not very excited about this potential new direction.
Also, it will split up the current nexus community over multiple devices.

I see silver as mostly good and I am hoping this could put pressure on OEMS to update their phones in a truly timely manner. If this happens I would jump right back on the note bandwagon. I mostly curse touchwiz but they did integrate TW very nicely with the note series...I miss my spen
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I doubt the line will change much, likely just a branding change to help morons who think the Droid phone is the benchmark android phone.

Some kind of new standards are needed because of new device types. Nexus was fine for Android, but now there are Chromecast, Thermostats, and who knows what is next. I think something new like Silver does not necessarily mean dropping Nexus style devices.
So far I'm pretty pleased with Google sponsored devices, both Nexus and Play Edition. I am interested in a tablet larger than Nexus 7 (2013) and I think a new Nexus-or-Play Edition phone on Verizon is needed too.
But, wait and see.:good:

Bob Smith42 said:
Some kind of new standards are needed because of new device types. Nexus was fine for Android, but now there are Chromecast, Thermostats, and who knows what is next. I think something new like Silver does not necessarily mean dropping Nexus style devices.
So far I'm pretty pleased with Google sponsored devices, both Nexus and Play Edition. I am interested in a tablet larger than Nexus 7 (2013) and I think a new Nexus-or-Play Edition phone on Verizon is needed too.
But, wait and see.:good:
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Well for most of us in Europe/ US , we usually take up contracts ! Like I can get an S5 with 2 year contract with free phone/calls/texts/Data for about £45 a month! Usually this is not a case for many others around the world, they have to pay in FULL which makes Nexus price more attractive than Play Editions!
Moreover, the price difference between Nexus and Play Edition is about 150-250 dollars which is a lot . . .

I want new a 10" tablet. Whether it's the silver program or final nexus tablet before silver program
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Duffmantp said:
I want new a 10" tablet. Whether it's the silver program or final nexus tablet before silver program
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We might get one. It is rumoured in upcoming Google I/O 2014
Source phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/You-...-showing-the-Nexus-10-not-the-Nexus-8_id56512
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phonearena edited the post and dismissed a new nexus 10.

Hnk1 said:
We might get one. It is rumoured in upcoming Google I/O 2014
Source phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/You-...-showing-the-Nexus-10-not-the-Nexus-8_id56512
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They were talking about the old nexus 10 in the photo, not a new one.

madbat99 said:
They were talking about the old nexus 10 in the photo, not a new one.
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Cheers for the correction, there were so many rumours involving a Google nexus 8 and 10 that I'm still confused

I'm still hoping for a nexus 8. My niece would love my n7 2013 and a n8 would be the perfect excuse for me to pass it to her and get one.

ultramancool said:
I doubt the line will change much, likely just a branding change to help morons who think the Droid phone is the benchmark android phone.
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same :/

Maybe not a very exciting answer, but where tech is concerned (and all the rumours that precede any new product) I am a "I'll wait and see" kind of guy. Also, I see no real reason to rush out and buy the latest and greatest all the time what I have is serving its purpose

No more Nexus phones! Is it true? Do you guys have more info in this?

I don't trust Android Central reports much. But I don't like this....
http://www.androidcentral.com/end-nexus-2016-google-phones-forge-new-path

I'm fairly certain it is true. Way before, months back, this was a rumor. They aren't exactly killing the Nexus phones but they are killing the name itself. This seems to be true because early leaks of the Sailfish and Marlin had ZERO NEXUS LOGOS on them. Each leak just had a simple "G" on the lower back like where apple brands their phones. Google is certainly going for profit increase here. Think about it, 9 times outta 10 someone says hey what phone do you have and I say Nexus 6P, they've never heard of it. I've literally never had one person who knew what my Nexus 6P was and the next thing they always say is "WTF, Google makes phone and has cell service now??!!" It never fails. Point is, people would be more willing to buy from a company they know like Google than some off brand dubbed "Nexus" therefore, it makes sense to rename their phones the "Google Whatever". I'm sure they'll get more profits.
The only line of thinking I don't like that they're using are the premium price tags. Apparently these phones will be much more expensive than last years 6P and 5X, even for same storage capacities. This is probably mainly due to HTC though, one of the (if not the most) stupidest OEMS when it come to phone pricing.

its nothing to get worked up about, its just a rebranding

are the current nexus phones like our 6p getting the same software though?

If I interpret it right, things are turning more towards closed source for the nexus device. Expect to see some proprietary features...
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It seems Stock Android is beeing ditched too. Welcome to the bloated Google phones (Hope i am wrong)

Nexus 6 Nougat 7.1 preview

I'm surprised to come in this morning and find no snowstorm of news about this. Maybe nobody's interested...? Preview 2 is slated for November.
https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html
Preview 2 (Android 7.1.1 near-final system images for final testing)
Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C, General Mobile 4G (Android One)
Final release to AOSP and OEM ecosystem
Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C, General Mobile 4G (Android One), Pixel, Pixel XL

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I'm surprised to come in this morning and find no snowstorm of news about this. Maybe nobody's interested...? Preview 2 is slated for November.
https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html
Preview 2 (Android 7.1.1 near-final system images for final testing)
Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C, General Mobile 4G (Android One)
Final release to AOSP and OEM ecosystem
Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C, General Mobile 4G (Android One), Pixel, Pixel XL
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They are probably staring at their phones waiting for the 7.0 ota still

Especially surprised that this beta update schedule is a lot shorter than before, and that Google changed their mind on Nexus 6 Shamu's EOL schedule.

Haha I have to agree! Surprised since early morning that there were no thread. Thanks for creating this.

Curious - what will be the additional features we will get in going from 7.0 to 7.1? anyone have a link of those?

It's an article on this site. The paste function doesn't work {for me at least} in XDA Labs, so I can't point you directly to it.
Edit from my laptop: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...available-for-the-nexus-5x6p-and-the-pixel-c/

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Especially surprised that this beta update schedule is a lot shorter than before, and that Google changed their mind on Nexus 6 Shamu's EOL schedule.
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If I recall correctly, we have only passed the minimum GUARANTEED support date, not the maximum possible, which remains technically "until they finally stop". I would hope that the N6 gets a pretty good bit of longevity, since it was bloody expensive.

doitright said:
If I recall correctly, we have only passed the minimum GUARANTEED support date, not the maximum possible, which remains technically "until they finally stop". I would hope that the N6 gets a pretty good bit of longevity, since it was bloody expensive.
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I'd agree. Nexus 6 is probably still the best Pixel phone because there's nothing like it, not even Pixel XL come close. I'd feel bummed, but if I ever decide to get Pixel, I'd wait and see if Verizon version is not locked down, if it does, I will keep using good old Shamu until I can buy Google Store version. Hopefully Google still support Nexus 6 for a bit longer.

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I'd agree. Nexus 6 is probably still the best Pixel phone because there's nothing like it, not even Pixel XL come close. I'd feel bummed, but if I ever decide to get Pixel, I'd wait and see if Verizon version is not locked down, if it does, I will keep using good old Shamu until I can buy Google Store version. Hopefully Google still support Nexus 6 for a bit longer.
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I believe it has already been confirmed that the pixels sold by (and on behalf of) verizon, ARE locked down.
Having said that, we received a Pixel 5"/128 yesterday, and it is a phenomenal phone. And while I wouldn't buy one *as* a replacement for my Nexus 6 (this Pixel was replacement for wife's fairly beat up Nexus 5), if I was needing a phone, I would definitely go with a Pixel.

At least I have two choices; pay $200 for Verizon Pixel (if its bootloader is locked down, well, screw Verizon), or $650 for Pixel from Google and knock off its bootloader lock.

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At least I have two choices; pay $200 for Verizon Pixel (if its bootloader is locked down, well, screw Verizon), or $650 for Pixel from Google and knock off its bootloader lock.
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Verizon will get 2x the difference back from you.

That's true, but I had no drama coughing up $200 on Verizon Nexus 6, and unlocked its bootloader as soon as I got home.
It's looking unlikely I will go down that route again, though.

Its good to see Shamu will be updated to 7.1. I see some ROM developers are already working on a 7.1 aosp build.
Regarding the pixel vs Shamu. Picked up a 5" Pixel for my wife. The build quality is fantastic and its blazingly smooth and fast. But even my wife says its too small compared to Shamu and thinks it looks way too much like an iPhone.The setup process was a piece of cake. Plugged the two phones into each other with the cable provided and the Pixel copied everything over from her Shamu. Google is CLEARLY aiming at converting iOS users with this device.

The funny thing is, Pixels were originally supposed to be destined to be the Nexuses. I guess Google is trying the half-assed approach to be the next "Apple", and given the fact that us Nexus fans are being quite vocal about the demise of Nexus program, I can see it going badly.

dahawthorne said:
I'm surprised to come in this morning and find no snowstorm of news about this. Maybe nobody's interested...? Preview 2 is slated for November.
https://developer.android.com/preview/overview.html
Preview 2 (Android 7.1.1 near-final system images for final testing)
Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C, General Mobile 4G (Android One)
Final release to AOSP and OEM ecosystem
Nexus 6, Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P, Nexus Player, Nexus 9, and Pixel C, General Mobile 4G (Android One), Pixel, Pixel XL
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I've been watching and waiting but since they skipped SHAMU for Preview 1, we'll have to wait for Preview 2 in Nov

Dr. Mario said:
The funny thing is, Pixels were originally supposed to be destined to be the Nexuses. I guess Google is trying the half-assed approach to be the next "Apple", and given the fact that us Nexus fans are being quite vocal about the demise of Nexus program, I can see it going badly.
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How are they trying to be the next Apple?
Also, Nexus users make up a tiny fraction of overall Android users. Ending the Nexus program won't effect their business in any way.

uberbdon said:
How are they trying to be the next Apple?
Also, Nexus users make up a tiny fraction of overall Android users. Ending the Nexus program won't effect their business in any way.
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The answer for that is very simple;
1. HTC Pixel that looks very much like Apple iPhone. And that it does speak Apple design language (won't be long before Apple sues HTC over dumb designs look-alike. And I don't care about Apple - I despise them for their crippled software and being the most cockiest patent troll.)
2. Verified boot is pretty much like what Apple implemented in their iDevices (except messing with the kernel or bootloader in iDevices usually result in total brick).
So yes, Google is now much like Apple, or at least trying to be one. I saw the writing on the wall already, although I won't abandon Android, as it usually have fewer bugs compared to iOS, and is very stable. Not to mention customization options.

Dr. Mario said:
The answer for that is very simple;
2. Verified boot is pretty much like what Apple implemented in their iDevices (except messing with the kernel or bootloader in iDevices usually result in total brick).
So yes, Google is now much like Apple, or at least trying to be one. I saw the writing on the wall already, although I won't abandon Android, as it usually have fewer bugs compared to iOS, and is very stable. Not to mention customization options.
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Verified boot is copying apple? I guess using encryption is copying Apple as well?
And that it does speak Apple design language
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I'm still trying to decipher what this even means.
As far as the phones looking alike, what shape do you want your phone to be? Some sort of rectangular shape is the only logical shape for a phone.

uberbdon said:
Verified boot is copying apple? I guess using encryption is copying Apple as well?
I'm still trying to decipher what this even means.
As far as the phones looking alike, what shape do you want your phone to be? Some sort of rectangular shape is the only logical shape for a phone.
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Well Samsung did get sued for having a rectangular phone with rounded edges, still don't understand how you get sued for a shape

The option to force encryption is not new, BlackBerry phones may probably have done that for a while long before iPhone came to the smartphone scene. So it's not Apple-y enough.
But locking you out, it's Apple-y. Verified boot is meant to discourage you from ever trying to root (which is a big problem because systemless root is now also checked for in Android 7.0 and root is obviously required to unlock specific bootloader) - which usually result in a soft brick. Walled Garden of the Bootloader. Screw that, it's all too Apple-like.
And, yes, Samsung got sued by Apple over general hardware shape (and HTC could be next because current Pixels are Android-based clones of the iPhone 6 - they both look almost the same except for a few key differences), along with some software features (Google was also involved).
I will think about buying Pixel still, as long as its bootloader is to be unlockable. This could be my first 64-bit Nexus phone, in general (And Nexus 6 Shamu being my last 32-bit smartphone).