USB Speeds? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Anyone have serious speed issues transferring over USB 3 to the phone SD? I have a Samsung EVO+ 128GB sd card and it can take an entire day to transfer 100ish gb.

Phone only supports USB 2.0, regardless of your port speed, so it will take a while... 100GB transferred at 15MB/s should be just over 2 hours though, not all day, and 15MB/s is a pretty average low-end sustained transfer speed.

card reader would be better

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Computer charging

Hi guys, I have a express card slot on my laptop and i am thinking of getting a usb 3.0 slot in it. I was wondering, since the 3.0 slot has the extra pins necessary, will it charge faster (even if not as fast as on the wall?)
mastermind1234321 said:
Hi guys, I have a express card slot on my laptop and i am thinking of getting a usb 3.0 slot in it. I was wondering, since the 3.0 slot has the extra pins necessary, will it charge faster (even if not as fast as on the wall?)
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The extra pins in 3.0 only allow for higher data rates. The usb port still has a very low current capacity and will take way too long to charge the TF. Note the TF cable has USB3.0 Physicical propertys only, but does not conform to the USB electrical spec

question on note 3 sd card and wireless card

Hello,
Curious on the following..
1. Note 3's SD card is it able to read / write Sandisk Extreme and Extreme Pro speeds?
2. Wireless charge is it faster or slower than wire?
Thanks!
dirtydirt said:
Hello,
Curious on the following..
1. Note 3's SD card is it able to read / write Sandisk Extreme and Extreme Pro speeds?
2. Wireless charge is it faster or slower than wire?
Thanks!
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1. Don't know.
2. Slower. I have used wireless charging with a Nexus 4 & Samsung Galaxy S4, both were faster with the wire charging, it will of course be the same for any wireless charging as long as efficiency is lower than for wire. I think any electrical engineer or physicist will predict that equals forever.
Qi charging seems to be the same for all transmitters & receivers (as far as I know). Since the Note 3 stock charger has an output of 2 amps I expect the difference to be larger than with the Nexus 4, plus the Note 3 battery needs more power to be full.
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[Q] What's the USB 3.0 for?

Hey all,
I was just wondering, what's the USB 3.0 for? I mean, the micro SD card isn't fast enough to max out usb 2.0 transfer speeds, and the internal space is capped by the MTP system, right?
Thanks in advanced.
I believe sammy made internal sd cappable of transfering real quick, I tested it with my 32gb dunno wat was it called, but its supposed to be fast, like real fast...so 3.0 is from cellphone to computer, If yours support it, it will be the same as int storage to ext microsd(if it supports fast transfers)
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fenchai said:
I believe sammy made internal sd cappable of transfering real quick, I tested it with my 32gb dunno wat was it called, but its supposed to be fast, like real fast...so 3.0 is from cellphone to computer, If yours support it, it will be the same as int storage to ext microsd(if it supports fast transfers)
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I don`t think the USB 3.0 is useful at all the Class 10 SD Cards has a write speed of 40 MB/s USB 2.0 is 60 MB/s so yes the SD card couldn`t even match the USB 2.0 Spec and internal storage is only 16 GB so even if it`s capable of reaching USB 3.0 speeds which I highly doubt as the USB 3.0 speeds are really close to the SATA 3.0 Specs and currently there is no hard disk on the world matching the SATA 3.0 Specs so I doubt that the internal storage is capable of reaching USB 3.0 so yes the USB 3.0 is not useful probably the only reason we have it is because it charge the phone faster then a USB 2.0 cable because of the additional pins.
bnight said:
I don`t think the USB 3.0 is useful at all the Class 10 SD Cards has a write speed of 40 MB/s USB 2.0 is 60 MB/s so yes the SD card couldn`t even match the USB 2.0 Spec and internal storage is only 16 GB so even if it`s capable of reaching USB 3.0 speeds which I highly doubt as the USB 3.0 speeds are really close to the SATA 3.0 Specs and currently there is no hard disk on the world matching the SATA 3.0 Specs so I doubt that the internal storage is capable of reaching USB 3.0 so yes the USB 3.0 is not useful probably the only reason we have it is because it charge the phone faster then a USB 2.0 cable because of the additional pins.
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I think they went with usb 3.0 with the sole purpose of increasing charging rate, the batteries are starting to increase in size but the rate they charge hasn't really changed much so they went with usb 3.0 to increase the rate. Quickcharge 2.0 is coming soon though so that should help to
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luigi311 said:
I think they went with usb 3.0 with the sole purpose of increasing charging rate, the batteries are starting to increase in size but the rate they charge hasn't really changed much so they went with usb 3.0 to increase the rate. Quickcharge 2.0 is coming soon though so that should help to
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usb chargers are NOT usb 3, they don't have the extra back row of pins needed, they only use the standard 4 pin usb which is usb 2. if you use a charging program like galaxy charging current you get no improvement with usb2 over usb3. most s5's were only shipped with usb2 cables anyway. quick charge 2.0 is based on standard usb2.
yeah i dont see any speed difference tbh
markymarkis said:
usb chargers are NOT usb 3, they don't have the extra back row of pins needed, they only use the standard 4 pin usb which is usb 2. if you use a charging program like galaxy charging current you get no improvement with usb2 over usb3. most s5's were only shipped with usb2 cables anyway. quick charge 2.0 is based on standard usb2.
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Yes if you charge from Laptop but what if you use the charger ? Since i have both usb 3 and usb 2 cables I will test to see if there is a difference in the charging time.
Can you please test and let us know whether usb 3.0 cable charges faster or not
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2nd Day With Mine

I received mine on Tuesday from Sprint. Coming from the Note 3, which is a great phone, I see this as a big improvement for me. I had a 64g card in my Note 3 along with 32g internal and never used up more than 35g. As for the battery, I bought several batteries online and may have swapped batteries out of my phone 3 or 4 times in two years that I had the phone. I was never too far from a power source and even when I go hiking or camping, I carry a couple of portable Ankhor battery chargers. For the note 5, I have loaded it with everything that I need and still have 45g left. I bought 3 wireless chargers for less than $100 bucks (home,car,office) and have a very small 64g OTG flashdrive on my keychain loaded with movies. I always have both my keys and my phone with me. I consider myself a heavy user and don't see myself having an issue with the lack of storage or battery. I got almost 8 hours yesterday after playing with it most of the day. I must say that when I remove it from the wireless charger it is quite warm, but it only lasts for for a minute or so.

Several questions about Moto Z Force

I picked up my Moto Z Force at Best Buy on Thursday. I couldn't pass up their deal. Getting this phone for $524 with the JBL SoundBoost speaker is awesome. I compared to regular Z before buying and the Force felt better in my hand (plus it has some great other upgrades). I'm loving the phone. I upgraded from a Droid Turbo and it is a significant jump up.
Several questions:
1. With my Droid Turbo when ever I connected to a Quick Charge 2 device (battery, car charger, and wall usb charger) the phone would indicate with a message that I was turbo charging. With the Moto Z Force I'm not getting a message with my bought Quick Charge 3 battery, car charger, and wall usb charger (Anker and Aukey). With the Force I'm only getting the "TurboPower Connected" message when I use the supplied wall charger. Is there anyway to confirm I'm charging at Quick Charge 3 speeds with my other devices? I'm hoping this can be done via software on phone.
2. It has been a while since I have used a micro sd card in phone. I'm loving I can do this with Moto Z even though getting card out is kind of pain in ass and you need special tool as well. I have the 200gb Sandisk Ultra Micro SD which I picked up a while back on sale for $50. Read speeds on this card are decent but write speeds are pretty slow. I'm noticing that speeds are significantly slower transferring large files to phone (with card in it) with cord vs. pulling card and doing with memory card reader. Is this normal? Is there any way to improve these speeds?
3. I'm looking for a good ultra thin case. I would like to add the least amount bilk and weight possible. I picked up a TPU case on amazon but it a bit bulky. Ideally I would like to get a thin polycarbonate case like Spigen's Thin Fit. Does anyone here know of a case like this for the Z Force?
Thanks!
fliptwister said:
1. With my Droid Turbo when ever I connected to a Quick Charge 2 device (battery, car charger, and wall usb charger) the phone would indicate with a message that I was turbo charging. With the Moto Z Force I'm not getting a message with my bought Quick Charge 3 battery, car charger, and wall usb charger (Anker and Aukey). With the Force I'm only getting the "TurboPower Connected" message when I use the supplied wall charger. Is there anyway to confirm I'm charging at Quick Charge 3 speeds with my other devices? I'm hoping this can be done via software on phone.
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"Turbo Charging" is proprietary. I have a QC3 chargeer that also does 3 amps. It doesn't say anything, as you mentioned, and both charge at the same rate.
1. I don't think these phones even support QC. The turbo chargers that come with the phones have it built in to work only with these phones, but they do push out decent charge for other phones as well. There was an app that measures how much charge you're getting, but I haven't tested it myself.
2. There is a tool that comes in the box to push out the micro sd slot. I'd say check to see if you formatted the card correctly for fastest transfer speeds. These phones are one of the few that actually support micro sd as true internal storage
Just picked up the Force on Thursday at VZW. Found the Best Buy deal. Called VZW they refused and would not compete.
Taking the other Z back to the store.
In just a day have to say the force is the way. Feels SOLID AND Clean. IMO
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1. I don't think these phones even support QC. The turbo chargers that come with the phones have it built in to work only with these phones, but they do push out decent charge for other phones as well. There was an app that measures how much charge you're getting, but I haven't tested it myself.
2. There is a tool that comes in the box to push out the micro sd slot. I'd say check to see if you formatted the card correctly for fastest transfer speeds. These phones are one of the few that actually support micro sd as true internal storage
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Interesting. All this time I thought that every device that had the Snapdragon 820 had QC 3.0. My bad. I have a Quick Charge 3 battery, car charger, and addition wall usb charger and was really hoping to charge at these faster speeds. I will do testing to see how they compare in speed to charger that came with phone. I'm also having problems finding Moto 30-watt Turbopower chargers anywhere on-line.
Memory card is formatted correctly (exFAT). Much slower speeds transferring files to card in phone vs memory card reader on same USB 3.0 jack.
Thanks!
I can tell you that I have both the Z and the Z force and neither will go into "turbo" mode with a QC 3.0 charger. Weird thing is that my Nexus 6p charger will put them both into Turbo mode. Odd.

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