WiFi Issue - NBD90X, Sleep/Doze cuts WiFi, Bug or RMA? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

(only found one thread with this issue, from nov 2015, with zero replies: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/wifi-issue-nexus-6p-t3244411)
So, let's go.
Nexus 6P Android N Oct 5th, Build NBD90X here.
Bought on 4/10/2016, one week ago, in Germany, after Pixel announcement (too expensive).
Manufacturing date: 11/17/2015 (bit old, maybe refurbished?)
Behaviour: At first, connects normally to WiFi. Connection stable for a bit, so it is not a reoccuring "it reconnects every 60 seconds and can't hold the connection" thing, it is very different.
In following situations it drops Wifi:
- When screen goes off for more than 1-2 minutes
- when I cast something (YouTube, Twitch) to my Chromecast and the Nexus screen turns off after 60 seconds, the Cast continues, but when I wake up the phone, Youtube or the other apps say connection lost, so I can no longer control the stream. I tap "retry" but it does not work and I have to restart phone, reconnect to Chromecast and stop the cast that way. Super annoying.
- And, not often but happens: even when i scroll through Twitter, it randomly disconnects and reconnects after about 10-20 seconds.
Things I have tried:
- different APs and Networks (home, at work, at a friend's house)
- changed Wifi channel, 2.4, 5ghz, .. basically just tested every setting here at home. since problem occurs also at work and other networks, can't be the cause.
- wiped system cache, nothing
- reset network settings on phone, several times, nothing
- WPS, nothing
- under "Location", advanced, disabled the WiFi and Bluetooth scanning stuff
- switched from "always" to "only when plugged in" at "stay connected to wifi" setting. changed behavior to: not reconnecting to WiFi when woken up. Instead, it finds all networks BUT the one it remembers and should connect to. I have to turn wifi on and off, even that does not help sometimes. then I have to reboot.
- maybe some measures I even forgot about now, but basically everything ever, anywhere, recommended...
- eventually I factory reset the device on sunday, started with "set up as new device" from scratch, wasted another few hours to eventually have the same result.
I used all my data plan because "Android System" downloaded so much in the background in the first night (when it should have been in Wifi of course), have to turn cellular data off now to not pay for extra megabytes (germany..).
so I don't get any updates or push mails anymore because mobile data off and it drops Wifi all the time. this is unbearable.
Same router with my previous Desire HD, LG G3 and Nexus 5X: all with no problems.
My big question is: is this a software issue that will be resolved or do I have a defect device? I need to know fast because I have 14 days return time at my reseller and 7 are gone, 4 of them I tried to fix the problem. The old manufacturing date made me questioning the device in general. So is this software-related and will be fixed or should I RMA my device?
I also posted this on the android forums: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=206311 (look at the very helpful answer by the developer xD ... )

Having the exact same issue since updating to NBD90X last Wednesday. So glad I finally found someone else is having g this issue. Has to be software, right?
I made a new issue report on code.google.com (issue 224971). Please report back if you find a solution, my data plan is wrecked already.
EDIT: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth just powered off while I was browsing XDA in chrome. So it happens randomly, not just when phone is at idle. This is really bad!

the same issue after update NBD90X

Same.
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I didn't face this issues. Maybe your device is defective. Return it and buy a new one.

gibrilm said:
the same issue after update NBD90X
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Please add your experience to the code.google.com page listed above (issue 224971) so they can see it's not just one or two people.

So, any news on this issue? If it's only three people in the world, i will return my phone on monday and ask for a replacement. Still in 14days-return-policy timeframe.
Although this looks like a software issue, waaay too few people are reporting that issue to justify keeping the device.
Annoying as f'ck but better safe than sorry. Hopefully the replacement will be of a newer manufacturing date without any issues.

Firstly, this is weird lol, I bought my 6P in August of this year and my manufacturing date is exactly the same as yours.
Though I bought mine from an authorized retailer, I doubt it'd be refurbished, anyway, I did a clean flash of NBD90X and everything is working well for me. No issues whatsoever aside from the slightly crappy battery on Nougat.
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DocBrownie said:
So, any news on this issue? If it's only three people in the world, i will return my phone on monday and ask for a replacement. Still in 14days-return-policy timeframe.
Although this looks like a software issue, waaay too few people are reporting that issue to justify keeping the device.
Annoying as f'ck but better safe than sorry. Hopefully the replacement will be of a newer manufacturing date without any issues.
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Did you clean flash the NBD90X factory image or take an OTA?

Hi,
I got it from a pretty big vendor here in Germany, pretty solid, 6000+ reviews with a 1,5 (1 best, 6 worst) rank at our best price comparison site. Ordered a LG G3 back in 2014 there and a Lenovo Thinkpad for my gf, everything perfect.
No, I got it, it had Marshmallow, then I had to install two security updates before it reached the "preparing for 7.0" update (20mb or sth.), then I got N and then, one day later, D90X appeared.
But I did a factory reset after having the issues.
You think I should try a clean flashing of the NBD90X? I thought I tried everything, but actually doing that didn't come up in my mind.
/edit: Did your packaging come with the papersleeve around the white plastic, where the S/N and the big P logo is printed on etc.? Cause my packaging was missing that. Only the plastic with transparent tape to hold it together. That is actually the only reason why I thought about "refurbished" because everything else looked completely new, no fingerprints, MM 6.0, etc. But it made me wary from the very beginning.

I just did it and wiped again, installed from scratch. Factory Image NBD90X... as clean as it gets.
After going through all the steps and wasting another chunck of time, it took 5 minutes until the first disconnect. While screen was on, while downloading stuff from the Play Store.
I am so annoyed by this phone, can't even tell. Two weeks of troubleshooting, nothing worked.

My connectivity just dropped dramatically. Had been on NBD90X since about 10/11. Our other does not exhibit this problem, both are almost set up the same. I then set mine up exactly like hers and still connected in kilobytes. Project Fi said they would send a refurb and I'm not excited over that. I've got 24 hrs to decide now. If it takes an hour or to to download an update that the other phone can do in a minute I guess mine is a lemon. Doc I just posted several places about this and my troubles started about the same time as yours. Also just installed the factory image and there's no improvement here.

Thanks for your report. Got myself a replacement device 10 days ago, no trouble since then. The old one went back and I got my money back.
Def something wrong with the WiFi chip or whatever.
Loving the phone now, 7.1.1 runs smooth af.

DocBrownie said:
Thanks for your report. Got myself a replacement device 10 days ago, no trouble since then. The old one went back and I got my money back.
Def something wrong with the WiFi chip or whatever.
Loving the phone now, 7.1.1 runs smooth af.
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Cool. Glad yours works now. I went ahead and ordered the replacement, I'll scrutinize that refurbished unit when I get it. Being the weekend it won't ship `till Monday. Didn't realize how much I depended on this darn phone until mine quit working right!

Well if it helps just one, I post this.
Our power went out for `bout an hour. Later I was still frustrated with the 6P and started messing with it, damn it was fast again. Went to sites immediately, went to the playstore and tried to get an app that I had given up on getting earlier and ~10Mb was downloaded and installed in 4 or 5 seconds!!
I hadn't even tried using the phone when I was out the last couple of days. That plus the fact that my Asus OnHub was down, it probably lost it's cache. Kept the settings but damn I'm gonna unplug it for a min or two the first of each month now!
Cancelled the replacement..... nothin-to-see-here-move-along........

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suddenly rebooting several times...

hi all,
i have my TD2 now for some months and it already happened several times that it reboots automatically. Not just once, but several times in a row and after 4, 5 or more reboots it comes to the screen to input the pin...
I do not know how this is triggered but it is very annoying!
I use WM6.5 and some user programs like TD2 Tools (2d), MobiReg, NaviComputer, KeePass, Free42 Decimal,...
The TD2 Tools info screen gives: ROM 2.16.404., Manila 2.1.19193517.2, OS Kernel version 5.2.21869
Is this problem known to anybody? Looking forward to your advice!
Not sure what the cause could be but a hard reset mey be the only fix.
Hi,
After 13 months, I'm now getting this spontaneous rebooting for about 4 times on the trot. It can happen mid-call or just whilst it's sat syncing with my PC. The reboot always seems to happen about 10 seconds after Sense has started.
I am on Stock WWE HTC 2.53 and Radio as per below. I haven't changed anything recently but this started happening yesterday. I did think it was connected with my SD card but I've swapped it for another good one of different capacity and no go either.
I have also tried a hard reset. This didn't fix it either as the rebooting started again after about 10 mins. All I had done was reached setting up a partnership and syncing.
I'm worried that my hardware may be damaged, though I don't understand how.
Really worried now.
John
PS My Diamond2 has just rebooted 4 times whilst I type this and it's connected via USB.
japester36 said:
Hi,
After 13 months, I'm now getting this spontaneous rebooting for about 4 times on the trot. It can happen mid-call or just whilst it's sat syncing with my PC. The reboot always seems to happen about 10 seconds after Sense has started.
I am on Stock WWE HTC 2.53 and Radio as per below. I haven't changed anything recently but this started happening yesterday. I did think it was connected with my SD card but I've swapped it for another good one of different capacity and no go either.
I have also tried a hard reset. This didn't fix it either as the rebooting started again after about 10 mins. All I had done was reached setting up a partnership and syncing.
I'm worried that my hardware may be damaged, though I don't understand how.
Really worried now.
John
PS My Diamond2 has just rebooted 4 times whilst I type this and it's connected via USB.
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I'd have to say that if you've hard reset and are on stock ROM, it would definitely indicate a hardware issue, as if something was triggering the soft reset button. Has the device gotten wet or anything?
Thanks for the reply. No not got wet or anything out of the ordinary. It started just last night whilst it had been sat for about 6 hours plugged into the HTC mains charger.
Looking at it more closely, it seems to happen 5 seconds after the data connection comes up. I guess Sense is checking the weather.
It has done 10 reboots now consecutively but every now and then it just seems to behave. This morning it was fine whilst I was out but it has been having rebooting episodes ever since I go home.
Oh well, I'll wait and see for a while and then panic. No money and the warranty won't be much use after a year........ Hmmmmm going to find the paperwork to check what the warranty actually is.
John
japester36 said:
Thanks for the reply. No not got wet or anything out of the ordinary. It started just last night whilst it had been sat for about 6 hours plugged into the HTC mains charger.
Looking at it more closely, it seems to happen 5 seconds after the data connection comes up. I guess Sense is checking the weather.
It has done 10 reboots now consecutively but every now and then it just seems to behave. This morning it was fine whilst I was out but it has been having rebooting episodes ever since I go home.
Oh well, I'll wait and see for a while and then panic. No money and the warranty won't be much use after a year........ Hmmmmm going to find the paperwork to check what the warranty actually is.
John
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Try removing your cities in your weather tab and maybe play with your network settings in Phone\Menu\Band
Amazing! I was just about to post that switching to GSM only had stopped the rebooting.
This could only be temporary as I use a lot of HSDPA speed data. I decided to reflash the radio and now it seems fine on 3G. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in 24 hours.
I was thinking back to yesterday. There was a time when the wall charger was unplugged from the wall socket before removing the usb connector from my phone. Could that have caused a spike?
Thanks Bruce for taking an interest and the helpful advice.
Cheers
John
PS Cautiously happy now
japester36 said:
Amazing! I was just about to post that switching to GSM only had stopped the rebooting.
This could only be temporary as I use a lot of HSDPA speed data. I decided to reflash the radio and now it seems fine on 3G. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in 24 hours.
I was thinking back to yesterday. There was a time when the wall charger was unplugged from the wall socket before removing the usb connector from my phone. Could that have caused a spike?
Thanks Bruce for taking an interest and the helpful advice.
Cheers
John
PS Cautiously happy now
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It is possible but likely that caused a spike. Shouldn't matter which gets plugged in first, USB or charger.
Hopefully the issue is gone now.
Good luck.
Well, sadly, I spoke too soon.
It was fine all last evening with no reboots and frequent use on 3G.
This morning, after a sitting on standby for 9 hours, it started rebooting as soon as I turned it on to check email. Of course this was where it started downloading the weather as well as email etc.
The switch to GSM stopped it rebooting again, so I now need to confirm this is stable over time and then try further combinations of weather on/off and or older radios. Basically, I'll try anything as I have no choice right now and need the phone, email, web and satnav combination.
My wife has offered to sacrifice her shiny new Blackberry but she has finally joined the mobile email/web brigade and I don't want her to go back to a plain GSM phone. Plus, all my windows software would be written off before I'm ready to do that.
I'll report back if the situation improves although I think it's not going to get any better.
John
Just an update in case it helps anyone else.
On GSM with GPRS data I have had no reboots but shortly after switching to 3G, I end up in the reboot loop.
I have tried new ROM, new radio ROM and new T-Mobile settings. Still the same.
I shall now wait out my contract using GSM until December, at least I can use WiFi at home. I'll then change to something new........ Android, WP7 or even Blackberry!
Thanks for the help. 10ish years of MS pda's have been fun and I've enjoyed playing with ROMs and software but maybe it's time to switch.
John
So, you've flashed back to your stock ROM and with nothing else installed, the rebooting still occurs? Is the stcok ROM pulled from HTC via your S/N?
Progress????
Hi Bruce,
Yes, I have downloaded and tried the original 6.5 ROM and Radio from T-Mobile with the same rebooting problem. Furthermore, I tried some other ROMs before reverting back to the HTC 2.53 WWE - all with the rebooting problem on 3G.
HOWEVER, in doing all this, I noticed it rebooted specifically when the weather connected and downloaded an update. This would happen either manually or automatically.
I have now found that turning Weather updates to manual stops the rebooting UNLESS I actually do a manual update and then it will reboot.
Now, for completeness, I have reverted to the T-Mo 6.5 ROM again and proven that the reboot occurs when the weather is updated either automatically or manually.
This is so confusing as I am effectively replacing ALL the software with a new ROM and Radio but this problem now starts to feel like it is software. Does the weather update do something special on 3G? Something that browsing, Google Maps, email, stocks etc doe not do?
Well, at least I now have 3G...... just no Weather............. SOOOO confusing.
Thanks
John
That is strange. Weather would use the same connection type, just hits a different server.
Also, a typical weather error would only cause Manila to restart or fail to load, not the phone itself.
Flashing the stock ROM would initiate an MTTY Task 29 command that would wipe your flash drive eliminating the possiblility of reminence of a previous flash.
This has me baffled as well.
I found a couple of posts from other devices and it appears to be caused by a bad chip...
In my opinion this could be 'the beginning of the end' of the radio chip. My old Mio A701 did almost the same (not reboot but sometimes freeze) and finally it did not recognized any network and any sim-card; several ROMs tested.
Now it stays in my old car for GPS functions.
But maybe you are more lucky than me...
Bruce Inman said:
I found a couple of posts from other devices and it appears to be caused by a bad chip...
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I've found similar on the Desire and HD2 forums too and was wondering if it could be related.
I'm still fine on 3G with no Weather refresh but checked this morning before going out, that actually performing a refresh did still cause a reboot.... and it did.
On arriving at my destination, 20 miles away, I tried the same refresh and it was fine.
At this point, I was starting to think it may be related to location services and my D2 is checking on it's whereabouts (with cell towers, etc) before downloading the local weather.
Interestingly, my home village, where ALL reboots have happened, does have much stronger signal now due to a very recent new cell tower. It was always 3G but now I get all bars all the time and higher bandwidth.
Now just come home, retested and it's fine! Auto Weather updates on 3G, Google Maps, etc...........
I'll keep a watch and let you know what happens next, I'm sure it's only a temporary respite!
Thanks again
John
Almost same problem with mine diamond2. Only most rarely. Sometimes it reboots once in week, sometimes once a day. I couldn't find any situation manually which causes reboot.
japester36 said:
I've found similar on the Desire and HD2 forums too and was wondering if it could be related.
I'm still fine on 3G with no Weather refresh but checked this morning before going out, that actually performing a refresh did still cause a reboot.... and it did.
On arriving at my destination, 20 miles away, I tried the same refresh and it was fine.
At this point, I was starting to think it may be related to location services and my D2 is checking on it's whereabouts (with cell towers, etc) before downloading the local weather.
Interestingly, my home village, where ALL reboots have happened, does have much stronger signal now due to a very recent new cell tower. It was always 3G but now I get all bars all the time and higher bandwidth.
Now just come home, retested and it's fine! Auto Weather updates on 3G, Google Maps, etc...........
I'll keep a watch and let you know what happens next, I'm sure it's only a temporary respite!
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Since this episode of getting my Diamond2 back to working on 3G with no reboots and everything switched back on for downloading the weather etc, it has not rebooted once in 10 days.
I'm very happy that it seems to be behaving properly.
Anyway, just a quick update from a now happy again D2 user.
Cheers
John

Vote on whether your Dell Venue Pro is crashing frequently

Trying to see if there's something in common with those who are experiencing lock ups.
My crashes arent frequently but it has happened a few times
Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
My units is not crashing all the time but it does it at least once a day which is bad. It seems to be when trying to switch between using cell network and WiFi. Would be nice if it was fixable with firmware.
Mine hasn't crashed so far. I tried downloading Harvest Game and it went fine over wifi. Tried heavy browsing with music in bgrnd and that too was fine. Only issue was the Bluetooth not communicating to the car properly. Its been a week now.
ive crashed only once, which was in the newsroom app, i was also updating marketplace one time and instead of crashing it would just take me back to the start menu..
mine has been crashing quite a bit...16 gig less than 14 gig available...
In the first 36 hrs I had the phone, I spent at least half of it in the PC connect screen. The phone would not boot...well..sometimes. Then it would boot by itself...reboot rather.
I called MS, ZUNE support. They helped walked me through some basic steps. Apparently I was touching the side buttons, camera, volume down, while powering up. Not sure if this was true, but dam they could reproduce the PC connect everytime. Since that call, I was more careful about powering up and have had no problems since.
I do get a lag in IE on WiFi, sometimes, not often, but daily. I found a web page that always sends me back to the desktop.
But crashing.....I have to be honest and admit that most of the crashes...if not all, in the first 36 hrs, probably were user errors. Now, I'm not a novice. I own more smartphones than most people on this forum. And if the phone buttons are that sensitive, then something is not right. However, since I've grown accustomed to the button layout and sensitivity, I've not had a single malfunction.
I've also recognized that certain apps are prone to causing, umm....unexpected results. Maybe instead of voting on crashes...we should keep a list of app suspects....
I got 2 units.
The first one had the Wifi issue and was constantly crashing.
The second one the Wifi is good, and it never crashed.
Maybe is related?
It seems to me that my device crashes a lot when my Wifi is on
sureloch said:
Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
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Same here, also 16GB model. Every crash I've had has either been related to the Marketplace, or it's happened when my rickety 3G connection had poor signal.
This sucks. Mine is crashing EVERYTIME I try to dl something related to xbox live (games) over wifi. Should I have this exchanged???
Crashes a lot. Sometimes back to back so after doing numerous battery pulls, I had mine switched out. Its always an app though that crashes it and the screen becomes unresponsive. Phone goes to home screen and the people hub is grayed out. Its not an os specific crash cuz my hd7 doesn't do that.
So far phone is mostly stable, crashes have been only with wifi enabled, and only had 1 other crash without wifi on. Been running for the last 3 days, no crash at all.
I have had my phone almost a week and have been noticing the crashing a bit more frequent. It always seems like when I am in the MP or using an app that requires retrieving data from the cloud.
I got mine since November... never saw it crashing
Only once it would not start...I had to remove the batteries and put them back on.
I have a feeling it goes with having it in your pocket for a long time.
Sometimes (happened twice in 3 month) the screen locks but it has something to do with static electricity, or rain (I switched on and off and it worked).
I got it upgraded to 32 GB by swapping the micro SD card.
Took a while to boot.... (I think it reformats the card) worked like a charm!
Fankly, it is the sexiest piece of hardware I've owned in a long time.
Much more stable than any phone I ever owned.
I've had my 16GB since the 28th. I have not had a single crash, freeze or hang in the 5 days I have been using it. OS performance wise, it has pretty much been perfect.
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet. Everything I have done is solely over Wifi. I think the fact that I don't have a data plan is going to wind up being the explanation for my lack of problems. I don't know if it is a Microsoft or Dell problem, but 3G and WiFi just don't seem to get along well on the DVP.
Even though I have been limited to Wifi, I have been using this thing constantly trying to get everything setup. I haven't had any Marketplace issues at all. I've been using the Facebook, Twitter and Netflix apps quite a bit. No Xbox Live stuff or YouTube app though. I installed the LastPass app and tested almost all of 50+ logins without any issues. All in all, I think I have given my DVP a fairly tough stress test and I honestly have to say it has passed with pretty high marks.
That's not to say my DVP is perfect though. I have had some bugs. The biggest for me is the cellular antenna. I get a mediocre phone signal in my apartment. My flip phone would hover between 2 and 3 bars out of 5. I get much worse reception on the DVP. I get a ton of No Service notices, especially when I pick it up. But it isn't just a death grip issue. I'll sit the phone on the arm of my couch and watch it fluctuate between No Service and 1 or 2 bars. If I want to make a call on the DVP, I have to take laps around my apartment trying to find a decent signal. Not fun. Outside of the dead zone that live in the reception is fine. If I get 5 bars, it stays at 5 bars no matter how I hold it. I also don't care for the SMS texting app. When I attempt to send a text while I have a low signal, I don't get a confirmation either way after I hit send. I sent 3 texts in a row out on Thursday afternoon and only 1 got through. It would have been nice to see a "Message Sent" or Message Failed" confirmation either way. I also can't import Contacts from my Sim. I see the box for it on my People Settings page, but it is greyed out. Very annoying. And I know it's a known issue with Microsoft, but the not being able to connect to a WiFi with a hidden SSID is just ridiculous.
I really haven't made up my mind yet on whether I am keeping my DVP. On the one hand, I really like WP7 and it seems like I got lucky and got one of the problem free DVP's. But I'm also not sure if I can live with the bad reception at home. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if anything interesting is announced at CES.
16GB and it locked up all of the time... It would just freeze there with whatever it was on the screen. That happened until I turned Wifi off. Now it's great. The only time that it crashed with wifi off was when I was running Beezz and it just hard locked for some reason.
So I would like to have Wifi... 3G coverage is spotty at best where I live. What are the chances of a firmware fix, ya think? I'm almost tempted to send it back to Dell... Even though I love it to death. Gosh that keyboard is amazing...
I sure hope it gets sorted out...
Can someone list the symptoms of crashing? Is it just screen freeze or apps won't launch when touched or something different? I had case y'day where except people, email and phone, none of the other apps would launch. When launched it would just return to the home screen right away. Then a battery pull fixed it. That was the first i had the issue since receiving the phone on 12/23. I have time till end of this week to decide on return or replacement.
MikeDupp said:
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet.
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Mike, have you received any calls on it yet? My experience has been that you can make outgoing calls all you want, but you need to tell T-Mo the new IMEI number to receive calls. That could also be why you haven't gotten a notification about the text messages.
When I called T-Mo to get the phone set up, they also told me about the available insurance plans (from $5.99/mo that covers the phone completely-loss/theft/damage/etc, to less than $2 for minimal coverage). I was on an out-of-contract plan too and had to pick up the phone at full price. My plan was phone+data, no messaging, so I only pay for texting. Everything done over WiFi or 3G has been great.
As for crashes, I think it's locked up 3 times now that required removing the battery and putting it back in. Those all happened within the first few days of owning it, but not since. (got it on the 23rd)

Hardware/Software Issues Thread

Hey everyone, i decided to create a thread for all Atrix owners for all Hardware/Software issues.
The goal is to hopefully document all known problems so that owners can be aware of issues and possible solutions.
I don't have a Atrix myself, but 2 friends of mine do and i will post there issues and the problems we have had so far!
So please post all problems so that we can easily find issues here.
So 2 of my friends have the Atrix and man it's been ridiculous so far!
Friend M. the "mooseman", is on his 3rd Atrix!!!
-First issue he had on Atrix #1, the charge/battery low LED on the top right did not turn on ever! When charging or full battery or low battery, led never came on!
-Second issue on Atrix #1, the phone wouldn't want to charge past the 40% charge mark either using the wall charger or from usb power from a pc. Factory reset, removing battery and cycling battery no good.
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit.
Atrix #2 from the "mooseman"
-First issue was again a charging issue that got stuck at a percentage, i think it was at 80%, even after being left on wall charger for a hour, Again no good.
-Second issue was that the screen was "Flickering" mainly very noticeable on any black displayed on the screen. We first saw it on the home screen background on a black part of the background, tried resetting rebooting, no good!
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit. At the bell store the tech wasn't even able to access the sim card over usb on the Atrix with a special device they had to copy sim contacts and info.
"Mooseman" is on his 3rd Atrix and so far so good, for now. All his Atrix's were from Bell and running 2.2
Friend M-furries. the "Iranian Warlord", will be going onto his 4th Atrix!!!
-First issue with his Atrix #1, he was experiencing call connection problems and dropped calls if i remember correctly. Also he told me that it would turn on by itself sometimes.
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!
Solution: "Iranian Warlord" will be sending this unit in to get another one!!! He will be on his 4th Atrix!!! lol! All his Atrix's were also from Bell and running 2.2
Mods, can we make this a stickey?
Tell us more..
Well hopefully he will have a good unit when he gets his 4th Atrix, i hope! I'll let you guys know as soon as he gets it.
Update: Actually my friend with the "Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!"
After further investigation, It's actually the whole screen that was flickering, furthermore it only appeared when the battery was around 20%, however it disappeared as the battery further discharge towards the 5% battery level, strange indeed. Perhaps somethings up with the power management.
We also found out that there is a Bell update for 2.2 that fixes a couple of bugs, so we'll try that out on his phone and after testing it for a while I'll post here any updates from it! Hope that it works because these are awesome superphones!
We are going to try this update first before getting the 4th atrix.
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-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
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Sorry to say but your friend is an IDIOT there! Like really? What was he thinking loading an iPhone app. It's OBVIOUS that it WON'T work. I mean if it was THAT easy, we'd have ALL of the iPhone apps running alongside with our android ones! Second this is in no means a fault on the Atrix. This is purely HIS fault. Your friend took the chance too root. He should have done his research and had he, he would have read in basically every ROM/root thread here that THE BELL ATRIX does NOT have a SBF to fall back.
I'm just surprise that Bell would let you exchange the phone because once you root, you lose your warranty.
fairly happy with 2nd one BUT !!! .....
My 2nd Atrix works OK so far. The first had the voice quality issue.
I still have 2 big problems:
1. WiFi crashing router. After some time (sometimes many hours) my router will crash (needs full restart/unplug). I put the Atrix on its own router so it does not affect the rest of my home network.
This happens with my Actiontec (FIOS), D-Link Dir655 and Linksys WRT54GP2 (super old but thats what the Atrix is currently on)
My DIR655 is running pretty old Firmware but I just dread redoing all my setup/config if I go to the latest 1.3x.
Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
I turned Wifi sleep of on the phone etc, etc but still!
Pretty annoying but I can live with it. My first Atrix did exactly the same.
2. VOIP mic problems! Skype, sipdroid etc... Its supposedly a problem with the MOTO implementation of the AudioSource Object. Its very limited and does not allow commonly used settings. I read that you can also only use the back mic.
I wonder what MOTOs official statement on that is?
Its true and I told him that he was retarded for even trying that lol! Luckily he was able to change it! However he is still having issues with this atrix, he's waiting for the bell ota update to fix a bunch of bugs on 2.2
My 2 friend's haven't had any wifi problems though, perhaps its the router your on? Wifi has always worked on all they're atrix's that they had so far!
Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
6. I get randomly disconnected from the AT&T network.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
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I'm actually using a DIR655 and I don't have any problems. Then again, I'm using firmware 1.33NA. That's bizarre though, I've never heard of a device crashing the router. I'd recommend that you bite the bullet and upgrade your firmware. You do know that you can save your current configuration, right? It's under:
Tools > System > Save to local harddrive
Love this phone so far. Luckily I haven't noticed any of the mentioned problems. Except 1, with VOIP, it doesn't seem to be working properly. Yesterday I tried Skype, tried speakerphone, tried headset, tried BT, nothing worked, I can hear the caller, but they can't hear me at all. Now today I tried again, I can still hear them, and there is a weird progress, they can hear me, not with BT, but with headset and speaker both, but my voice as they say was very broken, noisy, too much disturbance etc...
Besides this issue, (M)Atrix rocks!!!
Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
And it worked fine for one day x.x
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Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
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no issue here on that...not sure what to suggest :/
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
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hmm...I remember reading that people that had this issue, when they lowered the noise cancelation feature, they didn't sound muffle anymore. Maybe you can try this out? I don't have this issue, so not sure if that will help.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
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Are you still getting this on WIFI? I know sometimes the Market acts up on its own, though I haven't heard of it happening recently.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
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hmm...got to try this to see if I have this issue.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
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I've noticed the opposite accutally...if the phone is ON a flat surface, it doesn't respond properly. Like multiple times I am required to click on an icon shortcut on the homescreen.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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I think you should exchange it for a different phone :/ I know the reboot issue is fixed with the 1.5.something update for AT&T.
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Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
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Have you forced trottle your network to only be 3G? Are you in a known weak 3G area when that happens?

Phone getting less reliable with time - Just me?

Just a general question, but as time goes on and more updates / firmwares are released is anyone else finding their phone becoming more and more un-usable?
When I first had mine back in November last year it was perfect... no problems at all.
It's slowly got worse and worse to the point where I now have the following problems...
1) Data connection randomly drops needing a soft-reset. (yesterday I had to reset my phone around 5 times - stupidly annoying)
2) In dark condtions photos randomly turn out with coloured horizontal lines across them
3) Battery meter messes itself up after a soft-reset (combined with the need to keep resetting my phone due to the data connection this is massively annoying)
4) My bluetooth used to work fine - Now it will only work reliably if WiFi is turned off.
5) Volume is stupidly quiet now when playing music through an Aux Input.
6) After a soft-reset sometimes the phone just hangs with a black screen showing the battery meter - battery pull then required.
This is just off the top of my head at the moment. I never used to have problems like this. It seems every time I get an updated firmware I get new problems.
I've tried a hard-reset and this hasn't helped.
I love the WP7 software but this phone is beginning to drive me mad, such a shame since hardware wise it is great. I know i'm not alone with feeling Samsung have an ability to mess up the software side of things. Sadly I guess this means I'll look to Nokia next year when I can upgrade.
It's not just you. I wish more people complained to Samsung though, so that maybe we could see some improvement.
Not very helpful but no problems with mine on Orange UK.
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Not very helpful but no problems with mine on Orange UK.
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Nah, It's good to know there are some of us out there with functioning models
Also nice to know you're on Orange UK as i've been offered a warranty replacement for this data connection issue I hadn't yet taken up as i believe it to be software related.
If you're running the latest release of the OS then it may be worth giving it a go.
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4) My bluetooth used to work fine - Now it will only work reliably if WiFi is turned off.
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This NEVER worked. It's bloody pathetic.
Oooh it's like a game. I had a new problem yesterday. Related to my battery meter woes.
Phone had at least 60% charge, it started to think it had none so wouldn't boot up. Just got stuck in a loop of boot up - instantly power off.
I also had problems with WiFi after mango update but after soft reset everything is working fine except sometimes I can`t connect to an open WiFi network.
Anyone noticed the same problem?
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This NEVER worked. It's bloody pathetic.
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Same for me on this one. I'm on my second Omnia 7, which is about to get sent away to be told it's not fixable and be replaced so I'll be on my third phone
Going to get rid of it as soon as possible and get a Lumia 800.
same here...
Im with T-Mobile UK and i have found the same issue...never thought about it until I read your post though.
I too am finding myself resetting my phone more and more often...also another thing I have found is that it doesn't recognise when to switch to WiFi sometimes instead of 3G...i.e. when 3G is non-existent...very annoying I have to go and turn off the data connection to get it work properly...
i've just made some volume changes and I think it has helped with the headphones although it still isn't great...
I however am scared to return the phone as I dropped it in water and got it out very quickly...so it may have triggered the water seal thingy
Im not due an upgrade until Oct 2012....so I might have to just wait it out :s
I'm having trouble too with a 3 Mobile UK, unbranded latest firmware Omnia7.
Little bit temperamental on rare occasions. Like Freypal data doesn't always want to connect and sometimes it is randomly freezing or only showing the topbar with the battery. Need to pull out the battery to sort it.
On a side note, not connecting to WiFi when in a locked state is really annoying. Have to manually check for emails, WhatsApp etc.
No problems at all for me, only problem i have is Podcaast Pro app is likly to craash now and then, but its the devs fault.
Im having a unlocked, German Omnia 7, 16GB version, flashed to the only local ROM in Sweden from 3 and used with the same operator, and its been great ever since. My problem nowadays is i drop my phone often so when the battery falls out i have to restart, coming from 2-3 Omnia 7 its a lovly life to have it functioning normal, great phone.
Well, im a happy camper, but i noticed Omnia 7 generally working worse over time, mostly the first month is the time frame to discover problems, and if you flash a new rom, this can be the case again, one new month before you feel like tearing our hair, and it´s only connectivity issuess. Changing carrier and ROM fixed everything for me, so no matter how great, the carrier do matter in the choise of a Omnia 7, even if you think you fixed it. Dont know if it appy to you guys, but another Omnia 7 working incridble great here. Glossnas update and all, and it cant be found anymore so...im happy, hope you guys get to be that also.
I'm now on my second Omnia after a warranty replacement for the data connection problem.
New phone -
1) It still loses the data connection, although much less frequently than before.
2) Dark photos i think are now working properly
3) Battery meter still messes up. Must be a fault with the battery itself.
4) Touch wood - Bluetooth now seems ok ...
5) Haven't tried auxiliary volume yet
6) Haven't had a problem with it just displaying the status bar after a soft reset, however if the battery is out for any period of time and i boot the phone up. On the first boot data won't work. I need to soft reset it once for it to initiate.
So in summary - New phone, some old problems fixed. Some new ones. Some the same.

One plus 6t internet not working

So i've bought my one plus 6t about 2 months ago and i've had this problem with the internet connection from the beginning. Basically after a period of using it (like 1 hour/1 hour and a half) the connection would stop working, completely... Wifi, data everything would stop working until i rebooted the phone and it got back to normal. After the upgrade to android 10.3.0 the problem seemed to be gone but i discovered later that it just "changed". Now sometimes the connection goes really bad (like doesn't even load a song from spotify) for like 1-5 minutes and than returns normal again; this loop can go on for a lot and it is really annoying.
I don't know what casued this problem in the beginning and why it's happening now. I think there might be a stock problem with the network card but i don't know for sure and i don't know how to check. I already reset the phone once (the partial one that keeps all the photos and data in the phone) after the 10.3.0 upgrade but the problem remains.
If someone knows how to fix this/why this is happening please help me, i really don't know what to do at this point.
I would do backup and factory reset if not you can send to oneplus centre but they will do that before any repairs anyway.
I have had a similar problem on 10.3.1 and at least 1 if not 2 updates prior to the this one.
What happens go for me though, is when at home, (haven't had it happen anywhere else), connected to wifi or not, the phone randomly loses all connection to my sim. It comes back almost instantly but still quite annoying and until this post I haven't heard of it happening to anyone else, not that I have come across, at least.
And I know it's not because of where I'm at in the house or anything cause I've had the phone a year now and the problem just started within the last month or so.
Insight on this would be awesome.
I have also noticed weird connectivity drops to no service and back. that only happens rarely and will restore i seconds. havent annoyed me that much that i needed to do something about it. I travel lots with train, and when this happens on train it seems to have more difficult to connect back. it does eventually but might be enough to drop streaming music from playing.
There is definitely something going on with Oneplus and APNs. (OP7 sms and mms issues etc)
I Recommend doing a full backup with Oneplus Switch and restoring factory defaults. Then you can restore backup. Most likely fixes issue that bad to same condition as ours. if it doesnt, take it to warranty.

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