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hi all,
i have my TD2 now for some months and it already happened several times that it reboots automatically. Not just once, but several times in a row and after 4, 5 or more reboots it comes to the screen to input the pin...
I do not know how this is triggered but it is very annoying!
I use WM6.5 and some user programs like TD2 Tools (2d), MobiReg, NaviComputer, KeePass, Free42 Decimal,...
The TD2 Tools info screen gives: ROM 2.16.404., Manila 2.1.19193517.2, OS Kernel version 5.2.21869
Is this problem known to anybody? Looking forward to your advice!
Not sure what the cause could be but a hard reset mey be the only fix.
Hi,
After 13 months, I'm now getting this spontaneous rebooting for about 4 times on the trot. It can happen mid-call or just whilst it's sat syncing with my PC. The reboot always seems to happen about 10 seconds after Sense has started.
I am on Stock WWE HTC 2.53 and Radio as per below. I haven't changed anything recently but this started happening yesterday. I did think it was connected with my SD card but I've swapped it for another good one of different capacity and no go either.
I have also tried a hard reset. This didn't fix it either as the rebooting started again after about 10 mins. All I had done was reached setting up a partnership and syncing.
I'm worried that my hardware may be damaged, though I don't understand how.
Really worried now.
John
PS My Diamond2 has just rebooted 4 times whilst I type this and it's connected via USB.
japester36 said:
Hi,
After 13 months, I'm now getting this spontaneous rebooting for about 4 times on the trot. It can happen mid-call or just whilst it's sat syncing with my PC. The reboot always seems to happen about 10 seconds after Sense has started.
I am on Stock WWE HTC 2.53 and Radio as per below. I haven't changed anything recently but this started happening yesterday. I did think it was connected with my SD card but I've swapped it for another good one of different capacity and no go either.
I have also tried a hard reset. This didn't fix it either as the rebooting started again after about 10 mins. All I had done was reached setting up a partnership and syncing.
I'm worried that my hardware may be damaged, though I don't understand how.
Really worried now.
John
PS My Diamond2 has just rebooted 4 times whilst I type this and it's connected via USB.
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I'd have to say that if you've hard reset and are on stock ROM, it would definitely indicate a hardware issue, as if something was triggering the soft reset button. Has the device gotten wet or anything?
Thanks for the reply. No not got wet or anything out of the ordinary. It started just last night whilst it had been sat for about 6 hours plugged into the HTC mains charger.
Looking at it more closely, it seems to happen 5 seconds after the data connection comes up. I guess Sense is checking the weather.
It has done 10 reboots now consecutively but every now and then it just seems to behave. This morning it was fine whilst I was out but it has been having rebooting episodes ever since I go home.
Oh well, I'll wait and see for a while and then panic. No money and the warranty won't be much use after a year........ Hmmmmm going to find the paperwork to check what the warranty actually is.
John
japester36 said:
Thanks for the reply. No not got wet or anything out of the ordinary. It started just last night whilst it had been sat for about 6 hours plugged into the HTC mains charger.
Looking at it more closely, it seems to happen 5 seconds after the data connection comes up. I guess Sense is checking the weather.
It has done 10 reboots now consecutively but every now and then it just seems to behave. This morning it was fine whilst I was out but it has been having rebooting episodes ever since I go home.
Oh well, I'll wait and see for a while and then panic. No money and the warranty won't be much use after a year........ Hmmmmm going to find the paperwork to check what the warranty actually is.
John
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Try removing your cities in your weather tab and maybe play with your network settings in Phone\Menu\Band
Amazing! I was just about to post that switching to GSM only had stopped the rebooting.
This could only be temporary as I use a lot of HSDPA speed data. I decided to reflash the radio and now it seems fine on 3G. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in 24 hours.
I was thinking back to yesterday. There was a time when the wall charger was unplugged from the wall socket before removing the usb connector from my phone. Could that have caused a spike?
Thanks Bruce for taking an interest and the helpful advice.
Cheers
John
PS Cautiously happy now
japester36 said:
Amazing! I was just about to post that switching to GSM only had stopped the rebooting.
This could only be temporary as I use a lot of HSDPA speed data. I decided to reflash the radio and now it seems fine on 3G. I'll keep an eye on it and report back in 24 hours.
I was thinking back to yesterday. There was a time when the wall charger was unplugged from the wall socket before removing the usb connector from my phone. Could that have caused a spike?
Thanks Bruce for taking an interest and the helpful advice.
Cheers
John
PS Cautiously happy now
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It is possible but likely that caused a spike. Shouldn't matter which gets plugged in first, USB or charger.
Hopefully the issue is gone now.
Good luck.
Well, sadly, I spoke too soon.
It was fine all last evening with no reboots and frequent use on 3G.
This morning, after a sitting on standby for 9 hours, it started rebooting as soon as I turned it on to check email. Of course this was where it started downloading the weather as well as email etc.
The switch to GSM stopped it rebooting again, so I now need to confirm this is stable over time and then try further combinations of weather on/off and or older radios. Basically, I'll try anything as I have no choice right now and need the phone, email, web and satnav combination.
My wife has offered to sacrifice her shiny new Blackberry but she has finally joined the mobile email/web brigade and I don't want her to go back to a plain GSM phone. Plus, all my windows software would be written off before I'm ready to do that.
I'll report back if the situation improves although I think it's not going to get any better.
John
Just an update in case it helps anyone else.
On GSM with GPRS data I have had no reboots but shortly after switching to 3G, I end up in the reboot loop.
I have tried new ROM, new radio ROM and new T-Mobile settings. Still the same.
I shall now wait out my contract using GSM until December, at least I can use WiFi at home. I'll then change to something new........ Android, WP7 or even Blackberry!
Thanks for the help. 10ish years of MS pda's have been fun and I've enjoyed playing with ROMs and software but maybe it's time to switch.
John
So, you've flashed back to your stock ROM and with nothing else installed, the rebooting still occurs? Is the stcok ROM pulled from HTC via your S/N?
Progress????
Hi Bruce,
Yes, I have downloaded and tried the original 6.5 ROM and Radio from T-Mobile with the same rebooting problem. Furthermore, I tried some other ROMs before reverting back to the HTC 2.53 WWE - all with the rebooting problem on 3G.
HOWEVER, in doing all this, I noticed it rebooted specifically when the weather connected and downloaded an update. This would happen either manually or automatically.
I have now found that turning Weather updates to manual stops the rebooting UNLESS I actually do a manual update and then it will reboot.
Now, for completeness, I have reverted to the T-Mo 6.5 ROM again and proven that the reboot occurs when the weather is updated either automatically or manually.
This is so confusing as I am effectively replacing ALL the software with a new ROM and Radio but this problem now starts to feel like it is software. Does the weather update do something special on 3G? Something that browsing, Google Maps, email, stocks etc doe not do?
Well, at least I now have 3G...... just no Weather............. SOOOO confusing.
Thanks
John
That is strange. Weather would use the same connection type, just hits a different server.
Also, a typical weather error would only cause Manila to restart or fail to load, not the phone itself.
Flashing the stock ROM would initiate an MTTY Task 29 command that would wipe your flash drive eliminating the possiblility of reminence of a previous flash.
This has me baffled as well.
I found a couple of posts from other devices and it appears to be caused by a bad chip...
In my opinion this could be 'the beginning of the end' of the radio chip. My old Mio A701 did almost the same (not reboot but sometimes freeze) and finally it did not recognized any network and any sim-card; several ROMs tested.
Now it stays in my old car for GPS functions.
But maybe you are more lucky than me...
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I found a couple of posts from other devices and it appears to be caused by a bad chip...
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I've found similar on the Desire and HD2 forums too and was wondering if it could be related.
I'm still fine on 3G with no Weather refresh but checked this morning before going out, that actually performing a refresh did still cause a reboot.... and it did.
On arriving at my destination, 20 miles away, I tried the same refresh and it was fine.
At this point, I was starting to think it may be related to location services and my D2 is checking on it's whereabouts (with cell towers, etc) before downloading the local weather.
Interestingly, my home village, where ALL reboots have happened, does have much stronger signal now due to a very recent new cell tower. It was always 3G but now I get all bars all the time and higher bandwidth.
Now just come home, retested and it's fine! Auto Weather updates on 3G, Google Maps, etc...........
I'll keep a watch and let you know what happens next, I'm sure it's only a temporary respite!
Thanks again
John
Almost same problem with mine diamond2. Only most rarely. Sometimes it reboots once in week, sometimes once a day. I couldn't find any situation manually which causes reboot.
japester36 said:
I've found similar on the Desire and HD2 forums too and was wondering if it could be related.
I'm still fine on 3G with no Weather refresh but checked this morning before going out, that actually performing a refresh did still cause a reboot.... and it did.
On arriving at my destination, 20 miles away, I tried the same refresh and it was fine.
At this point, I was starting to think it may be related to location services and my D2 is checking on it's whereabouts (with cell towers, etc) before downloading the local weather.
Interestingly, my home village, where ALL reboots have happened, does have much stronger signal now due to a very recent new cell tower. It was always 3G but now I get all bars all the time and higher bandwidth.
Now just come home, retested and it's fine! Auto Weather updates on 3G, Google Maps, etc...........
I'll keep a watch and let you know what happens next, I'm sure it's only a temporary respite!
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Since this episode of getting my Diamond2 back to working on 3G with no reboots and everything switched back on for downloading the weather etc, it has not rebooted once in 10 days.
I'm very happy that it seems to be behaving properly.
Anyway, just a quick update from a now happy again D2 user.
Cheers
John
im sry for posting another topic, went through all other topics and none helped me, my x10 has been rebooting randomly alot, never did when i first got it
it restarts when im using edge while browsing the internet, restarts sometimes during games, restarts when calling someone and ALOT when i use it when its plugged
i tried so far flashing it from SEUS, removing apps, playing around with settings
its a problem so big for me im concidering changing phones, and returning the x10 to a shop or sending it for warranty arnt options for me
I think it's the phone running out of Ram because your having too much stuff open
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I think it's the phone running out of Ram because your having too much stuff open
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no, usually happens after it just booted while doing a random action
Probably time to back up your apps and wipe things out. Also, defrag your SD card because a few times mine became amazingly fragmented.
You could back track and try figuring out what app or what change had caused this but for the same amount of effort you can start fresh. I routinely wipe things out. I do it partially because if you only do a few reformats every now and again it becomes a daunting, intimidating task where you fear losing important info, etc.. just my two cents.
Mine is doing it too, while I have almost no extra applications installed and I don't use timescape and very rarely mediascape.
Just laying on my desk when suddenly the display lights up and the phone says simcard locked (asking for my pincode).
Happens approx. once every 1-2 days, and sometimes a short time after I reboot.
I never noticed it in the almost 6 months I have this phone, until I plugged in a new simcard with the pincode request active
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Reseating the SIM and SD card can definitely help too. But I've personally used the same SIM cards for years without challenges on the network or with my phones. Sometimes you get a dud or some dust in there.
I like using Hot Reboot to reboot my phone from time to time as well. I don't do it too often because I like to see how long my battery lasts, but it helps out a ton. Much better than killing tasks. I only do that before putting my phone to sleep for a long time, just in case some stray apps don't close or trick WiFi into staying on, etc.
My phone seems to be rebooting much more when I plug in to charge (while on the phone or having the earphones plugged in) . . . Its really annoying. Last night just trying to talk to my girlfriend it rebooted about.. 7 times? Less than 30 minutes. That is very frustrating. . I'll go home later and try to defrag the card and maybe the sim and such. I'll see what happens.. if it keeps up I might just have to go back to the storm1 until 2.1 comes out. Hopefully that'll fix this rebooting problem..
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My phone seems to be rebooting much more when I plug in to charge (while on the phone or having the earphones plugged in) . . . Its really annoying. Last night just trying to talk to my girlfriend it rebooted about.. 7 times? Less than 30 minutes. That is very frustrating. . I'll go home later and try to defrag the card and maybe the sim and such. I'll see what happens.. if it keeps up I might just have to go back to the storm1 until 2.1 comes out. Hopefully that'll fix this rebooting problem..
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same here, its a perfect phone i and i dnt mind anything in it but the reboot problem, cuz i already have a couple of deals lined up to sell it and if the prob isnt fixed any time soon im gonna take the plunge and sell it
it is a hardware failure. If you smell the back (behind the cover) u smell something burning. it will hapen more often and than you have to take it to a repair center where they can fix it under warrenty. They are repairing mine right now.....
I have same issue in HK & got replace mainboard but still got error restart.
Finally they change a new X10i to me beside they need me keep my old back cover!
My friend has got the same issue and the phone was sent back with the same problem again. In return we sent it back again to sony and we received a new phone
I wonder if the restarting could be related to wifi,
I didn't enable the wifi for about 2 weeks now and it didn't reboot once.
Just leaving 3g network on for the moment.
get your x10 replaced with its motherboard. i had to threaten legal action just to get the restart loop fixed.
its a very common problem with a faulty batch or with the phone itself. you can check all the complaints here
talk dot sonyericsson dot com/message/24287
mmk92 said:
im sry for posting another topic, went through all other topics and none helped me, my x10 has been rebooting randomly alot, never did when i first got it
it restarts when im using edge while browsing the internet, restarts sometimes during games, restarts when calling someone and ALOT when i use it when its plugged
i tried so far flashing it from SEUS, removing apps, playing around with settings
its a problem so big for me im concidering changing phones, and returning the x10 to a shop or sending it for warranty arnt options for me
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m8 i had exactly the same problem first the restart was just randomly and then the START became random i mean when i boot my phone it restarted itself over and over again so i turn it off and leave it to rest then when i switch it on again i was able to use it about 30 min and then the restarting session comes back again and i wasnt even able to log in to Android OS . The device just reached Sonny Ericsson logo and restart .SO i gave it back to the shop i bought it from and after few days they gave me new one coz it was some hardware issue they couldnt fix that was the only way to repair it for me.
P.s. 1st i bought black xperia but they gave me white cant be more happy coz i wanted white when i first went to the shop but they ware all sold ..
I think it happens when the phone gets too hot. check the back of your phone and feel it it is overly warm, I know my phone has rebooted sometimes when I have been doing cpu intensive tasks and multitasking or using the gps for a while. This happened with my g1 as well.
Are you using a Task Killer? If so, do NOT kill the Backup and Restore application on the phone and see if that resolves your problem.
I know it sounds strange, but I was having a similar issue where my phone would randonly restarted. It only started to happen after I did a firmware upgrade that installed the Backup and Restore feature (I'm on Rogers). Once I stopped killing the app, my problems stopped.
For mine it was GPS. Disabling GPS stops rebooting the phone.
bad chipset... return to se.
Before I tried all the other MODs, especially Froyo ROMs, everything works fine.
After trying and flashing and downloading and ... my GPS will now work for nearly 30 mins or equal to kilometers driven and then reboots or GPS signal lost
It needs to cool down or the timeframe will be shorter just after the reboot. To turn GPS on/off will not work.
I tried everything in any possible combination:with and without backcover; car charger; Navigon, MAPs; reflashed back to 2.1 Stock; formatting SDCard; changed SDCard - problem remains
I wouldn't say that it's the cover will be hot..yes warm, but that's all.
My problem is, that there is a little crack on the touchscreen on the upper left side, so I guess SE will not replace my generic full-paid handset.
I still have this problem lately, and it is right out of warranty, so i am stuck with this phone.
I check with robbers (rogers) if i can get another phone cheaper... heck they are selling me old smart phones more expensive then the market.
I think i am through with Sony ericsson, phone is nice but their choice of manufacturers are horrible.
Seriously, Sony deserve to be hacked and deserve to lose billions.
My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection. To restore it I have to restart the phone. T-Mobile say that this happens from time to time, but it's happening every day now. It's annoying as it stops my push email from being up to date, and of course prevents the use of any internet based services until the phone is restarted.
Has anyone else noticed their phone has switching to GSM?
Had mine for 6 days.Been fine up until today,then I had the same problem.Only the once so far.
Confirm loosing 3G
Confirm loosing 3G connection, and also have phone call failures.
Factory reset did not solve the problem.
Bring it back to shop
Blackstone is back now!
At first this was occasional with my phone, then more frequent, and it's all the time. If I want to use the Internet I have to restart the phone. My house is covered by full HSPA, but the only way to get it is to take the battery out while the phone is switched on. I can sometimes get 3G by a simple restart, which I lasts about 40 minutes.
I like the phone, so I'm going to hold out for a software update. All it needs to do is check available networks and I think that, if this is a wide spread issue, Samsung/Microsoft will fix it. Hope so.
Please post here if you have this issue too.
I have also been having this issue... sometimes it doesnt come back straight away when i restart it but after about 10mins its back.
When I activated it with orange I was told to expect a few txt msg's that would need deleting and the phone restarting... I only got 1 msg, maybe this has something to do with it, maybe the phone hasnt been sent enough updates.
I also have this issue and have done for weeks. Orange couldn't solve it either.
It only happens overnight at home. I either need to reset the phone / rescan available networks or turn flight mode off and on again for the connection to restore.
I was thinking it may be an issue with t-mobile since it only happens at my home where orange signal is poor and i roam over to t-mobile.
If i stay in an area with good Orange signal i don't get the problem.
Good to know i'm not the only one with this problem. It's very annoying!
Hi y'all.
I had the same problem: 3G was lost every time. I was fed up restarting the phone every time, so I looked for another way to get 3G back. I found out that disabling and enabling SIM security (phone > setttings) got me 3G again... for a short while.
But: after disabling SIM security permanently, 3G kept on going (in fact for over a week now).
I think that changing the PIN to some other number, might cause this. I haven't yet tried changing it to the default PIN again, to see if using that for SIM security solves it. For the moment I'm too happy it works again.
I have suffered from poor reception issues ever since I got my Omnia 7.
It seems like the reception comes and goes. I will receive e-mails, which proves that the phone has been connected, but as soon as I try to use data myself, by visiting a web page or refreshing an app like facebook, the reception disappears and the "no reception" symbol drops down from the status bar.
Also, often when I try to send an SMS, it will appear to have been sent, yet 10 minutes later I will receive a "Can't send...try again" message. Once I have received this, the SMS will never successfully send. However, in the meantime I can receive SMS messages, which shows that the phone has been getting a signal.
This is SO frustrating and is ruining my experience with the phone.
I have posted requests on the Microsoft Answers forum and the only suggestions have been to reset the phone or turn WiFi off. Neither of these have had any effect. I have never enabled SIM lock.
I have heard that there is a firmware update due soon which includes a new radio stack. I am desperately hoping that this will improve the situation, as at the moment I cannot rely on my Omnia 7 as my only phone.
Alex.
Hi Loco,
You are right in saying that social answers doesn't really help much .
Luckily there IS a new firmware from a couple of days ago! Check out the Omnia 7 Dev section. There are only a few posts.
And here is also a good link for you. You are right to assume that it comes with a new radio stack which improves on performance.
http://wmpoweruser.com/new-samsung-omnia-7-firmware-and-news-of-a-keyboarded-omnia-8-leaks/
Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
Had similar problems, but after I changed my provider ( O2-Germany), 3G is stable.
For the people having this problem, have you tried setting the phone to prefer 3g? Details of how to do this are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915813
johnnymatrix said:
Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
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Same here man. On Optus and my reception sucks with this device. What the hell is samsung doing? FIX IT!
I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
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I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
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My problem got worse with the Mango update. I'm now on my 2nd handset after having a replacement from Orange warranty. This one still loses it's connection but much less frequently.
TBH i don't think it will ever get fixed. I started an MS Answers thread months ago and lots of people had the same problem but we never got a response from MS.
Conisdering the age of the model now I doubt Samsung care, well they didn't seem to care a year ago so they won't now... For this reason I will not buy another Samsung phone. It's infuriating.
Looks like I am stuck with it until December then when I can upgrade to a Nokia lumia. A long wait :-(
i have this issue, too.. but for me i only have to set airplane mode on and off. sometimes i deactivate data connection, go to a random website, get the 'no connection' error, then activate data connection back and it works.
however, after installing the latest drivers & firmware, i get this issue A LOT less frequent. like once in 2-3 days.
i hope ms or samsung will fix this because it can get really annoying. especially when you need eg. a quick google-search..
Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Same as me - Flicking flight mode on-off doesn't solve it, needs a soft-reset.
Like I say, there are quite a few with Omnias on Orange with this problem.
I'm in the same boat, I've had this for months now so I guess I'll just deal with it until I can upgrade the start of April and get a Lumia (hopefully the EU 900/910 will be here by then!). There is no way on this earth Samsung are getting any more of my money. Nokia seem fully commited so they can take my cash next time!
I have the same problem with the data stopping working on o2 in the UK. But I also sometimes cant receive calls even though the phone has service, then there are the times where it site there going GPRS/3G/3G+/No Service and you cant do anything with it apart from pull the battery.
I met the auto restart issue by several times on my Omnia7.
It occures sometime on IE and marketplace data loading. When the IE / Marketplace is getting data from web through Wifi / 3G, it hangs for about 2-3 second and then the phone restart / reboot automatically. It's much easier to happen when loading a large size web page in IE.
Does anyone have met this kind of issue or know the reason?
Thanks.
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Thanks for reply. The issue is it restart the phone automatically, not only the application itself.
remove battery
No anyone other meets this issue? Then I doubt it's not because of software but hardware
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No anyone other meets this issue? Then I doubt it's not because of software but hardware
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Turn phone off and remove battery for 10s min. Then start the phone again. If problems continue and you have a Samsung or carrier support center near you, make them update the firmware to a new one and see if problem is solved.
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Turn phone off and remove battery for 10s min. Then start the phone again. If problems continue and you have a Samsung or carrier support center near you, make them update the firmware to a new one and see if problem is solved.
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Thanks for help. It doen't happen so frequently. I've done phone reset and also flashed it into another rom. But the issue is still there.
I've just update it into the new 7008 OS by Zune software yesterday. Hope it could be resolved.
It happened to me once. Just once. FYI, been using this phone for 2 months and it only happened once
Happens to me sometimes on HD7. Not on the Omnia 7 though
It seems not only IE and market place. I met it again yesterday that one app which uses Map control made it crash with Wifi connection. I think that might be because of some data receiving problem on Wifi part.
I've had this happen once since I had the phone in November last year. It was in marketplace, the phone froze and then rebooted itself. This was last week.
I have not installed the update. Like I say this is the first time it's ever happened.
It is most definitely firmware related.
I sent my phone to repair (SIM card reader broken), and they flashed an unbranded rom on it(that was an unexpected extra) and the JK1 firmware. Now I don't have random restarts anymore.
It happened to me twice Yesterday. My omnia runs the 7008 firmware.
I changed my SIM card and hope the problem will no longer appear.
Do you solve this problem in the meantime?
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It is most definitely firmware related.
I sent my phone to repair (SIM card reader broken), and they flashed an unbranded rom on it(that was an unexpected extra) and the JK1 firmware. Now I don't have random restarts anymore.
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Your comment makes me believe the problem is SIM-card related. I've heard of phones randomly rebooting by faulty SIM-cards. I know HTC's problem is mostly mainboard related. Sure do hope it's not a hardware failure. I'll try it for another week or so. If it happens again I'll send it for repair.
I have the same problem. I just have a new Omnia 7 from repair, and the new one already rebbot 3 times since yesterday!
Any idea why?
Is your omnia 7 warm? If it's warm, you must to change your CPU, your cpu is overheat.
Problem will go away. It costs about $75.
I suffer reboots
I suffer from the rebooting problem, sometimes randomly reboots when accessing data (3G also). Well, I believe this is when it happens as it happens a lot!
There have been occasions where the phone gets stuck rebooting and sits with the Samsung Omnia 7 splash screen for ages before powering down; or reboots in a loop.
I tried updating the bootloader with Samsungs tool (after putting the phone in download mode), I've since tried flashing different ROMs and non of them have fixed it.
Currently using:
Phone: I8700XXKB3
PDA:I8700XXKB2
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OS Version 7392
It's so frustrating, it's been to a Samsung 'repair centre' but they just seemed to factory reset it and claimed it was fixed. Next step is send it back to Samsung and hope they fix or replace it for me.
VERY annoying as I cannot use the phone at times when I'm out which is worrying.
I was listening to music, browsing facebook and doing several thing at once with case cover on; then i took off phone from cover and it was very hot, so i supposed it was a over heat problem...
it just happened once for me
I tested this with the SIM in my phone and the SIM out of my phone. It made no difference - I received random restarts in both cases.
It's definitely software related though, as I never received these crashes before upgrading to Mango RTM. Not saying it is Mango, but maybe something to do with the firmware installed in the process of upgrading?
I am really hoping that the official Samsung upgrade to Mango includes new firmware and that it fixes the issue. If not I'm getting rid of this phone, I don't want a phone with features I can't even use. I got a full phone crash the other day when just trying to view a map.
I have it also it only happens when I search websites with the Bing search button. I search websites that I already know that exist and even trough the phone is connected (most of time via Wifi) it shows no results and then restarts. I think any ROM replacement will fix it as I have tried them all without success.
Definetly the issue has something to do with Bing services
Hi I had some random reboots but just a few ones like maybe 3 or 4 in 6 months but since I installed Mango beta, it starts to reboot randomly like you on IE or marketplace but removing the battery a few minutes used to fix this.
I thought it was firmware problem so I flashed it with a lot of different firmwares ( now i have KC1 ) but It didn't solve the problem even worst, now my Omnia 7 is stuck in a boot loop.
I suceeded to make it work for a few hours playing games or using bing maps after puting the phone in the fridge for a few minutes. Now the phone wont charge because of bootlooping so even the "fridge fix" doesn't work. Maybe I will try to change the battery but here in france it's really hard to find Omnia 7 stuffs. Maybe its firmware problem because my phone dont look so hot but it acts like overheat problem. Maybe trying to calibrate the temperature sensor by diagnosis if someone knows how to. I'm ok to try it =)
If someone can give us the normal temperature of their omnia 7 maybe we can compare and try to find the solution.
Thanks for reading my bad english ! =D
Hey everyone, i decided to create a thread for all Atrix owners for all Hardware/Software issues.
The goal is to hopefully document all known problems so that owners can be aware of issues and possible solutions.
I don't have a Atrix myself, but 2 friends of mine do and i will post there issues and the problems we have had so far!
So please post all problems so that we can easily find issues here.
So 2 of my friends have the Atrix and man it's been ridiculous so far!
Friend M. the "mooseman", is on his 3rd Atrix!!!
-First issue he had on Atrix #1, the charge/battery low LED on the top right did not turn on ever! When charging or full battery or low battery, led never came on!
-Second issue on Atrix #1, the phone wouldn't want to charge past the 40% charge mark either using the wall charger or from usb power from a pc. Factory reset, removing battery and cycling battery no good.
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit.
Atrix #2 from the "mooseman"
-First issue was again a charging issue that got stuck at a percentage, i think it was at 80%, even after being left on wall charger for a hour, Again no good.
-Second issue was that the screen was "Flickering" mainly very noticeable on any black displayed on the screen. We first saw it on the home screen background on a black part of the background, tried resetting rebooting, no good!
Solution: Atrix was exchanged for a new unit. At the bell store the tech wasn't even able to access the sim card over usb on the Atrix with a special device they had to copy sim contacts and info.
"Mooseman" is on his 3rd Atrix and so far so good, for now. All his Atrix's were from Bell and running 2.2
Friend M-furries. the "Iranian Warlord", will be going onto his 4th Atrix!!!
-First issue with his Atrix #1, he was experiencing call connection problems and dropped calls if i remember correctly. Also he told me that it would turn on by itself sometimes.
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
Solution: Exchanged the Atrix for a new one.
-Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!
Solution: "Iranian Warlord" will be sending this unit in to get another one!!! He will be on his 4th Atrix!!! lol! All his Atrix's were also from Bell and running 2.2
Mods, can we make this a stickey?
Tell us more..
Well hopefully he will have a good unit when he gets his 4th Atrix, i hope! I'll let you guys know as soon as he gets it.
Update: Actually my friend with the "Attrix #3, he had it for a couple of weeks and now he is getting an issue with the screen "Flickering", it appears to be "Flickering" on the top status bar!!!"
After further investigation, It's actually the whole screen that was flickering, furthermore it only appeared when the battery was around 20%, however it disappeared as the battery further discharge towards the 5% battery level, strange indeed. Perhaps somethings up with the power management.
We also found out that there is a Bell update for 2.2 that fixes a couple of bugs, so we'll try that out on his phone and after testing it for a while I'll post here any updates from it! Hope that it works because these are awesome superphones!
We are going to try this update first before getting the 4th atrix.
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-Issue on Attrix #2, he had rooted the phone and enable 3rd party programs within settings, phone was functioning fine and was rebooted many times without issue.
He then decided to download "Talking Carl.ipa" which is a iphone app lol, why, god knows, but he tried it and when he did it didn't work as expected and gave him a force close, he forced closed and when he did, the phone rebooted.
Only thing was that know it wasn't booting up at all! It remained on the pulsing moto bootup logo and did not boot, even after many attempts nothing.
He went into recovery mode and did factory reset, what happened after that?
His phone booted up except that the resolution of the screen was as if it was really high as everything including the main menu, taskbar icons, text, everything was supper small and very hard to see!!! Furthermore he tried the phone dialer and nothing, it would try to open then instantly close! So no more phone except if it was a incoming call . He then looked for a stock rom for the Atrix but didn't find any so he tried to install gingerblur rom and still no good, everything was super small and phone dialer still closed when launched! We downloaded all drivers, moto agent and motorola sync and could you believe that there is no emergency firmware recovery within motorola sync!!! No recovery or option to upload a firmware, wtf!!! The samsung galaxy S had that option through Samsung Kies, as does the iPhone from iTunes, what the hell motorola!!! Called there tech support and it was useless, they tried a ota update lol!
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Sorry to say but your friend is an IDIOT there! Like really? What was he thinking loading an iPhone app. It's OBVIOUS that it WON'T work. I mean if it was THAT easy, we'd have ALL of the iPhone apps running alongside with our android ones! Second this is in no means a fault on the Atrix. This is purely HIS fault. Your friend took the chance too root. He should have done his research and had he, he would have read in basically every ROM/root thread here that THE BELL ATRIX does NOT have a SBF to fall back.
I'm just surprise that Bell would let you exchange the phone because once you root, you lose your warranty.
fairly happy with 2nd one BUT !!! .....
My 2nd Atrix works OK so far. The first had the voice quality issue.
I still have 2 big problems:
1. WiFi crashing router. After some time (sometimes many hours) my router will crash (needs full restart/unplug). I put the Atrix on its own router so it does not affect the rest of my home network.
This happens with my Actiontec (FIOS), D-Link Dir655 and Linksys WRT54GP2 (super old but thats what the Atrix is currently on)
My DIR655 is running pretty old Firmware but I just dread redoing all my setup/config if I go to the latest 1.3x.
Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
I turned Wifi sleep of on the phone etc, etc but still!
Pretty annoying but I can live with it. My first Atrix did exactly the same.
2. VOIP mic problems! Skype, sipdroid etc... Its supposedly a problem with the MOTO implementation of the AudioSource Object. Its very limited and does not allow commonly used settings. I read that you can also only use the back mic.
I wonder what MOTOs official statement on that is?
Its true and I told him that he was retarded for even trying that lol! Luckily he was able to change it! However he is still having issues with this atrix, he's waiting for the bell ota update to fix a bunch of bugs on 2.2
My 2 friend's haven't had any wifi problems though, perhaps its the router your on? Wifi has always worked on all they're atrix's that they had so far!
Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
6. I get randomly disconnected from the AT&T network.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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Does anyone here use the Atrix on a DIR655 N router without problems?
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I'm actually using a DIR655 and I don't have any problems. Then again, I'm using firmware 1.33NA. That's bizarre though, I've never heard of a device crashing the router. I'd recommend that you bite the bullet and upgrade your firmware. You do know that you can save your current configuration, right? It's under:
Tools > System > Save to local harddrive
Love this phone so far. Luckily I haven't noticed any of the mentioned problems. Except 1, with VOIP, it doesn't seem to be working properly. Yesterday I tried Skype, tried speakerphone, tried headset, tried BT, nothing worked, I can hear the caller, but they can't hear me at all. Now today I tried again, I can still hear them, and there is a weird progress, they can hear me, not with BT, but with headset and speaker both, but my voice as they say was very broken, noisy, too much disturbance etc...
Besides this issue, (M)Atrix rocks!!!
Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
And it worked fine for one day x.x
wirednix said:
Issues:
1. The LED (one of them would flicker and then go off).
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no issue here on that...not sure what to suggest :/
2. The voice quality on the phone. Everyone would tell me I sounded muffled.
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hmm...I remember reading that people that had this issue, when they lowered the noise cancelation feature, they didn't sound muffle anymore. Maybe you can try this out? I don't have this issue, so not sure if that will help.
3. I have a problem with network error on the Market app.
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Are you still getting this on WIFI? I know sometimes the Market acts up on its own, though I haven't heard of it happening recently.
4. If I leave my finger relatively still on the screen for longer than 15 secs, the will stop responding for a few secs and go crazy. (This happens with all units. It's a "feature" on the phone). Kind of makes it hard to play games.
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hmm...got to try this to see if I have this issue.
5. I can't lay down the phone on any surface that is not flat, as the LCD will not work (ie. bed)
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I've noticed the opposite accutally...if the phone is ON a flat surface, it doesn't respond properly. Like multiple times I am required to click on an icon shortcut on the homescreen.
7. I get a few reboots per week. Sometimes in the middle of a call.
That's all. Besides those things, the phone...is still horrible.
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I think you should exchange it for a different phone :/ I know the reboot issue is fixed with the 1.5.something update for AT&T.
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Atrix just wont connect to mobile data, it will tease you with showing you there is an H+ connection available, but it wont let you axx it..
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Have you forced trottle your network to only be 3G? Are you in a known weak 3G area when that happens?